How To Start A Driving Lesson ADI Standards

[@TRP-ATPS]

Great to see your video very helpful looking forward mock test part 3

[@Tommy_67]

Hi Josh. Well done for posting the video. It's nice you're willing to receive feedback on the content. Questioning - your questions to the pupil are occasionally loaded, ie you are presuming you know the answer. You ask her a question and then follow it up with another question with your answer attached. "What makes it a 7? Is it confidence?" When using effective questioning, our next question should ideally depend on the answer from the previous question. Not just a string of pre planned questions. With some practice you could get this pupil to open up and have more of a conversation than a quick fire question round. Active listening is an extremely important part of questioning. Listening and understanding how and what the pupil has said. You mentioned her putting her jumper on several times, and towards the end she does mention that she shakes when she is nervous! This is where you should have delved deeper into what and why she is nervous! Although client centered learning is about what the client NEEDS, not just what they want. The plan did feel like it was guided more by you then the client. When talking about roundabouts you ask who has "right of way". The term should be "priority" not right of way. The roundabouts felt like it was to much of a step for the pupil. If you are having to help her to go to first gear and to give that much detail in the talk through, maybe she wasn't quite ready for those yet! On a side note, I would advise on taking direct observations of the pupil. You are fiddling with the heating while she is moving off. Not only are you not watching her, you don't do your instructor observations before she moves off. This would be marked down on a P3 or SC under under "was the trainer aware of the surrounding and the pupils actions". It's really good to see you are trying to improve and you are moving in the correct direction. I can send you some links on how to use effective questions if you want. Keep up the good work 👍

[@JoshRamwell]

Thanks Tommy I knew you would have some solid feedback. I'll have a read through shortly. If you can send those links I'd appreciate it. Never hurts to continue learning

[@godfather2107]

Amazing feedback. I am currently on pink licence. I too would be grateful if you could send me the links on questioning. Thanks in advance

[@JoshRamwell]

So with regards to the question I see what your saying. I do tend to preload questions sometimes. I'll work on that. The priority instead of right of way is brilliant, I will change this in future. The roundabouts was definitely to much at that point and if I had shown the rest we did adapt the lesson to left and rights for a bit. The pulling away was a slip up focusing on filming not teaching. Thanks again and look forward to the links. 👍

[@Chillerz786]

@Josh The Driving Instructor is there any chance we can get the list aswell please.

[@aramdriving1057]

Hi Tommy brilliant feedback 😊 I am preparing for my part 3. Do you give training for part 3? Is there any chance contact you directly? Kind regards Ram

[@SiRhodesDriverTraining]

Hi Josh, I know this is over a year old now but I always relate roundabouts to being another type of junction like you kind of did at 2:40 but I just just say it’s another type as I find it’s less daunting for the nervous pupils when they relate it to previous lessons. I’d also never say roundabouts are open junctions as there are plenty of mini roundabouts that are closed. Most larger roundabouts are open but a lot of minis are not, in my area at least, and it could encourage a pupil to go too fast if they are approaching a closed mini roundabout in 2nd gear.

[@samnguyen6314]

Good tips mate 👍. I just passed my part 1 test and I sure will keep watching to get more tips from you. Thanks

[@thatperson5986]

Thanks for sharing Josh. Love your videos. This particular intro did feel somewhat instructor led. So much info from you and not much from the pupil. I've found myself doing this at times and have to make myself slow down. Too much talking from me and not enough from the pupil and like one of the previous commenters has said, she is spoon fed the answers. It almost feels like we are anxious to get the answers out so we input them in. Don't be afraid to ask the question and let the silence happen. That's the pupils thinking time. There was a big introduction for what seemed to be a relatively straight forward left turn at roundabouts with virtually no traffic on them. I'd be asking the pupil about the similarities to T junctions. How do you deal with those if you can see? What if you can't see? Keep it quite simple and short as I feel that too much will not be taken in especially if she has been guided to the answer. She looked quite disgruntled over the cardy decision.

[@MultiNatural1]

Good video, I'm a PDI and when you mentioned the weather conditions you just stated you should keep a little bit more distance from the vehicle infront due to the rain, I'm just wondering whether you should specify more specifically how much "a little bit" is as the learner driver may not be aware

[@Grahamvfr]

I've no doubt this is really useful for pdi's Josh, but I'm flabbergasted the dvsa really think this is the way to get the best from a pupil.

[@sallyc7660]

I passed my part 3 last week!!!!🎉

[@JoshRamwell]

Sally that's ana amazing achievement well done!!😁🙌🎉

[@sallyc7660]

@@JoshRamwell thank you 😊 1st time 🤩 no one was more surprised than me!!! £300 we’ll spent after 😊

[@NajinaAktar]

This is such great help thanks so much, I just had a question my ADI part 3 test is coming up and I'm just still unsure how to address when a pupil is for example is hesitant to enter the roundabout would I on my test talk through what happened while the pupil is still driving (of course once they have exit the roundabout to not distract them) or get them to stop somewhere safe and address while that car is stationary?

[@mawais3044]

Josh you are a star - I am preparing for my Part 3 and your videos helping me - please suggest more as I just started yesterday - Your suggestions awaited - Grateful

[@ChrisDownes-tf7ln]

Hi Josh - using your videos to assist in my part 2. You mentioned the weather - 2 second / 4 second rule may have been a good addition......and given that roundabouts were the subject I may have included a line about the potential for diesel spills from HGV's on those roundabouts. Good video thank you

[@JoshRamwell]

Thanks Chris good luck with the part 2🙌😁

[@ChrisDownes-tf7ln]

@@JoshRamwell thank you

[@thatguywiththe4554]

I already passed time ago last year but I love ❤️ these videos keep posting more like this

[@JoshRamwell]

Thank you 😁

[@godfather2107]

Thank you Josh learning a lot from you...Would be great to see how the lesson progresses as you continue your mock part 3 test lesson

[@JoshRamwell]

This weekend I'll attempt a full lesson😁 if she will let me

[@gerardmcmanus]

First of all, thank you for sharing this, there is not many videos like this, especially with a live student involved in the conversation. How you are supposed to do this in three minutes without sounding like an auctioneer is beyond me. All I could spot was, perhaps analyse/question the risks of looking at the gear. This should have been more of the goal for the lesson, and could have been looked at while doing left turns at roundabout. You seemed to ask her what her weaknesses were, then, brushed over them, and brought up roundabouts. You did discuss environmental risks which was great, but what about the risk associated with roundabouts, faster moving traffic, people behind expecting you to go, situations more likely to change if you take your eyes off the road to look at gears, could cause drifting in your lane etc. Another, point which seemed missing, was what the student can cope with herself. She has done left/ right turns and other junctions, so does she need full instruction with everything?. There was a brilliant amount of testing her understanding, this could have highlighted potential risks if there was gaps in her knowledge. Not a lot missed from what I can see, just needs to be a bit shorter. I would love to see more examples of this, closer to the 3 minutes.

[@MultiNatural1]

I'm not sure the cycle lane is considered a safe, legal and convenient place either. And she didnt look too impressed when you called her a pig hahah

[@sderrick1]

Lot's of useful info here and you dealt well with a pupil who didn't have too much to say. Not sure i would have parked up for 10 minutes in the bike lane though!

[@JoshRamwell]

Thank you stephen😁

[@user-fj6qh2ec5b]

Thanks for your time josh, I would like to see more videos on part 3 training as going through it now and all helps with pupil coaching .hopefully go on pink shortly👍🏻

[@thomasduffy6904]

out of interest have you passed, how are you finding it

[@leannekelsey9983]

I have my first attempt at part 3 coming up soon and this video has helped. I will look at others you’ve made but am aware most people fail on the risk management part. Have you done a specific video for that?

[@JoshRamwell]

Hi Leanne I can remember to be honest. It is something I plan to do in the near future anyway.

[@aaBb-ji5tu]

Very useful video, I learnt a few good points. 👍🏽

[@JoshRamwell]

Thank you Bb if it helps at all I'll call it a win.

[@laurajohnson7946]

This is brilliant Josh!!

[@JoshRamwell]

Thanks Laura 😁🙌

[@dmndd3432]

Don’t think she took your “Having lunch, you pig” joke that well 😬😂 Great video though 👍🏼

[@JoshRamwell]

No It went down like a led balloon 🎈🤣

[@thatfootyshirtguy1450]

Hi Josh. Preparing for my part 3 and love watching your videos. Just on the briefing, would it be more brief on the part 3? Watched another video were you said it would be 3 mins max. Thanks. 😁

[@ananthrajah2743]

Really great thanks sir

[@JoshRamwell]

You are most welcome

[@Dannysdrivingschool]

Unfortunately this approach doesn’t really work in the real world, Pupils tend to switch off when to much talking you can see this pupil is bored and anxious to get on with it ...great for part 3 though this should be an A all day

[@JoshRamwell]

Fair point Danny

[@Dannysdrivingschool]

@@JoshRamwell that’s it Josh you know what works for you and how your pupils respond, watching some of your lessons back that’s pretty much how I do them , but we do have to tick a few boxes if we want a good score on a standards check or part 3 so very helpful I’d be interested to see a full lesson in this style

[@diamondgeezer8309]

Hi Josh, I've watched this loads of times after reading the comments. Can you send me the link to the questions please. I'm going to be on my pink in a months time. Rick

[@JoshRamwell]

Hey diamond I'm really sorry but he never actually shared any links. I think he more just wanted everyone to know that he knows more 😂🙌 If you join the discord though there are lots of pdis ans free resources including a pdi catch up every Monday on a topic eg risk management last week. Feel free to get involved you will love it🙌

[@diamondgeezer8309]

@@JoshRamwell hi josh, I did think that when I read that , he sounded like an examiner . I used to be a teacher in the hairdressing industry and had my own business lost it due to covid 19. I studied videos on driving instructing before saying yes this is for me . Doing a part time cleaning job at the local school I've gone through the same as you through watching your videos. Tough journey but nearly there. 8 hours left before my pink . Loving the challenge and thankyou for your inspiration making your videos. How do I join your group ? Rick

[@JoshRamwell]

@@diamondgeezer8309 Rick you are most welcome really pleased they are helping people to be honest. Here is the link to Discord : discord.gg/mhCEGhFquF

[@azrajavied199]

Hi could you please send me the link to the questions

[@j4m1e.adam56]

I'm really confused on how you have to do the briefing in around 3 mins.

[@youngaj3157]

I can’t believe he called her PIG

[@andreal7056]

Is that intro not too long winded 🤔

[@JoshRamwell]

Probably since it's changed yes

[@thatguywiththe4554]

If you can make the videos a bit longer as well lol even if it’s 30-40 mins like dgn

[@JoshRamwell]

I'll do that for the next one

[@andrewsmyth6027]

PIG?????? would suggest that would be an immediate fail!!!! drinking Tea on a lesson????????? right shoulder check on take off???????

[@JoshRamwell]

Haha this all sounds very exciting I'm going to have to watch the video again to see what an earth you are on about.😁🙌

[@killer7urk]

I thought the pupil should do the talk i mean answering the questions. Either way good and usefull video.

[@besafe5969]