Joshua deserves an apology |THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY|

[@ZesaDone]

Joshua deserves the biggest apology ever. I'm so mad at those "fans" and hope that they'll get their very deserved karma soon.

[@rx7pp]

Yes absolutely! They are messing up other's life and their life will mess with them! I don't understand why people bother about other business when their own life is fvcked up!?

[@hansol-]

They are not fans..

[@moonjunhui13]

that's why it's in quotations...@@hansol-

[@AaryanshiSharma-ft6we]

now i feel like it was more better when they werent that famous and had real fans like more of us who followed them cause of their music🙃🥲

[@syi9306]

Don't call them fans..they are absolutely haters

[@bdsha661]

I would like to clear the vacation rumour as we have eye witnesses. he actually visited the phillipines with his mom and he along with his mom went out that night. There he and his mom met joshua's mom's friend and her husband to have dinner. Fans even has photos of that. That day many filo fans met them and they confirmed that joshua was only with his mother, and the girl that they have mistaken to be the alleged gf was actually his mom's friend.

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

Also the pictures that were used as evidence were taken from behind. You can't see their faces + they were blur. So people who didn't get into the details might have believed it back then just bcz of the outfits.

[@bdsha661]

He suffered a lot during those months silently. and specially his antis took that rumour as an opportunity to bash him and question his 10 years of hardwork in the industry. I've been into kpop since 2014 but this was the first time i've seen "fans" go this extreme at hating an idol for an unconfirmed dating rumour. it was heartbeaking to see shua trying to be okay and fine in concerts and airports.

[@13diamondboyscarat87]

I don't think they were actually fans

[@liamcleaff]

@@13diamondboyscarat87 Up and seriously supported comment. These are not fans, definitely. Sad there are people like this :(

[@its.hiraya]

Salute to the person who made this video. Thank you for defending our Joshua. He indeed deserves the biggest apology.❤🥺

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

💙💙

[@zpolar]

We need to make this viral. Joshua deserves an apology.

[@minttea4503]

I'm so sorry for Joshua you could see how quiet he was... I'm glad karma is real and he came back stronger than ever by going to a Paris fashion week and literally getting so much positive attention where he shined🥺 I'm so shocked by how everything was fabricated there it's insane... I hope pledis actually sued her agency and her because the damage they did to joshua is big

[@_juls__]

I feel so bad for Joshua, he deserves the biggest apology, can't believe "fans" can be like that.

[@Somii24_]

People are so shameless! I don't understand why they act like they know everything about others. Let them live their lives. I don't care if they're in a relationship or not, or if she's spreading rumors by herself or through her company, because we don't know them, so we shouldn't assume things on our own, no matter how big the rumors are, until there's solid proof or a statement from them. How do these people have the audacity to say these mean comments to Joshua? If he's useless, then what are they? He deserves these achievements because he worked for them! What did these people do? Just accuse others of living their lives their own way? What the heck is wrong with humanity? I can't stand it. Society is pathetic.

[@vineelareddy4749]

ur so true

[@esteentanczeyingmoe6782]

That so true when i always hear about this kind of things and the idols confirm their dating i was so happy but i hate when the so called fans can just be mad at him for having a partner ,idols aren't robots that they can control it their life to live they are still humans

[@itspribanerjee]

This was really such a sad case. I feel bad for Joshua :'( I wish idols could freely date whomever they want to and I hope people would stop trying to sabotage idols :(

[@vaivasatuimaseve8811]

It’s so sad seeing these people (haters) still doing this to these idols after so many lives been ended so early, because of the stress they added onto their busy schedules. I’m not a fan or anything like that but I’m just a mother who loves watching these talented young people doing what they good at, but when you see them being treated like they committed a crime,ohh it just breaks my heart seeing them trying their best to act normal while they’re working so hard to do their job. Yes people, that’s what it is “Their JOB” they entertain cause they are Entertainers. If you don’t like their music, don’t listen and don’t spend your money,but if you like what they sell then go right ahead and buy them. Just remember, that’s all you’re buying, it’s their albums “Not THEIR LIVES “❤

[@noonatdawn]

This video needs to get viral for people to understand.

[@lolodiaries6535]

Joshua is really gentleman. How can this stupid people hate him. Even if he's dating someone it's not our bussiness. They want Idol becomes monk, they can't have family. Antis stop being delusional.

[@certifiedcarat]

Well said! Once a kid commented under my post where I was defending Joshua (Idols private lives aren't ours to pry on), saying he cheated on his fans bc he's having a gf. Like bruh! 1. Kids shouldn't be stanning these almost 30 years old idols 2. Even kids know that love has different types ! (I mean the love between lovers is totally different from the love between idols and fans) 3. Kids shouldn't have internet Access fr like they'd believe anything in there. The whole situation was funny like bashing on a person bc of a dating rumor?? And bruh lipsyncing? Atleast find true facts if you're gonna bash someone. I wish these idols would laugh while reading those hate comments bc they know nothing about them

[@atypicalhorangdan]

I feel so bad for shua :( he's such a sweetheart. Shame to those who hated on him for absolutely no reason!

[@GyulBoo]

Regardless of all the claims and "evidence" this video refutes, the biggest reason Joshua deserves an apology is that he has the full right to date and be with whoever he wants, that is it!! Even if all the evidence was correct, even if the recent pregnancy thing was correct, neither he nor the girl deserves any kind of hate just because some people live in their own delusions that their favourite idols are innocent teenage boys who know nothing about the world and will just rely on the fans for their entire lives. The amount of entitlement these fans felt they had over the lives of the 2 people involved is just ridiculous, and that is the biggest and only necessary reason why both of them deserve an apology. That being said, I know K-netz are super weird about this and no matter how much international Carats try to educate them on this, it won't get resolved in a day, a month, or even a year. That is something we can only hope happens as soon as possible because idols are humans too and need to live their lives however they want.

[@itsdark9983]

Well said. Knetz have a strong obsession for the idols to be pure and virgin. I doubt if these fans also stay single their entire life for their idols.

[@rosalee9691]

Not only does this man need an apology I also feel like I should be a wake up call to K-pop fans in general because this isn’t the first time something like this has happened and has been a ledge to be set up. Like someone who got into K-pop because I had older siblings and cousins, who are into K-pop, so I was exposed to it at a very young age. I’ve lived through so many scandals and rumors so similar to this I’ve never they pop up, unless there’s like a legitimate fucking evidence . You legit see faces an actual receipts of them, interacting, and being near each other, and even then the most you can do is sit there, and just say congratulations for being a normal human being, and being in a relationship and happy and in love. Is the fact that this is always normally a publicity stunt sometimes it’s by the company is themselves and other times it’s by individuals that have nothing to do with the company but they themselves are assigned to a entertainment company for the get the opportunity from their agents or agencies, that they work with to further push their name out there by affiliating them with a celebrity, even if technically, they don’t know the celebrity. Not to mention, I always feel like the biggest red flag when it comes to things like this is the lack of actual real evidence, like as fucked up as that sounds like really think about it. In the past, when it comes to idols, even more recent idols that have actually been dating there’s normally always evidence in this day and age where everyone owns a fucking camera phone they’re CCTV everywhere, and most workers at establishments can’t keep their mouth shut. You can guarantee that there’s going to be a clear picture of these two people together at some point I’m talking you can clearly see their faces. It is not just people dressed up like these idols walking around, pretending to be them. Not to mention I also feel like one of the bigger flags on top of that whether it’s the company themselves doing this for publicity or someone else doing it for clout is the way it makes absolutely zero sense how they get caught. There are several items from second GEN an early third GEN that are now happily married some with kids, some not, but they basically admitted come out with the fact that there is a person if they’re married to now they have been dating for years yet they have managed to never once get caught in such an obvious way they don’t get caught by weaving or interacting with them at concerts or shows, walking down the street heading who knows where where anyone can see them with like one or two security guards, or a manager, and that’s it, being caught wearing clothes that they wore earlier that day and took pictures of and posted up on like social media or something they’re not stupid. I know non-celebrity people regular should make other people I know people who work in the business industry who like to keep their private life private, they know how to avoid situations and things like that happening. You’re not going to sit there and post a picture of you wearing a specific outfit and then go out wearing that exact same outfit on a secret date you’re going to change your clothes. You’re not going to be caught at your concert, showing a lot of interactions with one specific person let alone your significant other know you’re going to sit there and try to interact with all of the fans and things. You’re not gonna get caught walking down the street first of all, you would never walk down a random street let alone empty ones the easiest way for a celebrity to blend in, is to legit blend in. As much as people think that it’s harder if there’s a crowd of people or people around you, it actually makes it the easiest because you’re hiding in plain sight. The likelihood of someone actually sitting there stopping and paying attention to a couple that look like everyone else there’s nothing super distinguished about them necessary is like very minimum. As someone who has visited Los Angeles, an asshole who lives in New York City and has legitimately had a run-in with celebrities that live in the city I’m telling you most of the time you don’t even notice. You’ll sit there and I’ll hit you later on or while you’re leaving a store or something cause you’re looking back and all of a sudden you’re like holy shit that was Dove Cameron like I’ve had that happen on multiple occasions before and he’s like yeah you actually wouldn’t notice the celebrities because they’re not Glammed up. Also, celebrities know how to turn on and off that it factor like Marilyn Monroe talk about this how she knows how to flip a switch that will have people sitting there and paying attention to her and she knows how to turn it also that she’s blending in with the crowd, she can literally be walking down the street and no one would know it was her. Modern-day celebrities know how to do this most modern day celebrities are actually taught how to do this not only in the west, but like internationally. An idol or a celebrity wouldn’t make it this obvious unless they were planning on coming out and just telling the fans and the public that they were dating. On top of that I personally feel like the company also needs session apology I understand companies trying not to be all up in there Clients business because I found out the day. That’s what it is. They are just a worker there. they are a client who looked for an agency found one and now they have a contract, but if you can tell that it’s clearly hurting the image of the idol, there’s nothing wrong with just talking to them. Not to mention most K-pop idols have no issue with telling your company. No, I’m still single or yes I’m doing this person or even just like that’s not my partner I’m not dating that person. Especially when they’re in the game for as long as he has been and even other groups that normally get caught up in dating rumors nowadays have been in it like if you have a good 5+ years on your belt of being in the industry I highly doubt that you would have an issue if there’s rumors like this going on in your company just ask you for clarification. They should’ve said something, but then again, I feel like this is some new protocol that has been implemented by the parent company because recently even. HYBE where before they used to actually sit there and come out and be like where he can’t speak for artist or we talk to said artist and they said that this is not true. Instead nowadays they can you just sit there and just like shit happened and I don’t understand it because not all publicity is good publicity, especially if it’s this damaging, not even to like the image of the person, but to their mental health, because of how much people are attacking them or being upset with them like companies need to stop the hell up to it’s OK to come out with a statement after talking to these artist because communication is key and just sitting there and stating know this is a false rumor or if it is true sitting there and figuring out. Do you want people to know about this or not? Because if you’re not comfortable, if they’re not comfortable going public with it, we can figure something out to get people totally shut the hell up about it.

[@Hosh_15]

I am was so sad for joshua. Mostly i was mad those antis were doing these shits in the name of being carats

[@noam-s1y]

I am shocked and disgusted by what fans do I used to think the seventeen's fandom was the most normal and supportive Why do they hate Joshua so much? He is the most perfect man in the world It disgusts me that people are so closed to the feelings of others And I know I'm writing this late but, I haven't been a carat for a long time and I just discovered it now If you can't support your idol in the hardest times, don't support when it's easy, it's not worth it, and he deserves more and better

[@SAYit17_._]

Poor Josh ❤ People on the internet are so heartless! Without any proof how can they treat him like this! And who ever did this, are definately not carats!! Shame on them honestly! Don't worry Joshua ❤we got you, we CARATS always believed in you💖❤️and will always in the future 💞🥺 I wanna apologize to him on the behalf of the stupid people! And run to him to give him a huge hug❤ Honestly seventeen was always being so strong! Let's thank them for being there for Josh at such a time of being! Especially scoups, who I am pretty sure that he wouod have been furious! And they have no right to point out Josh's talent! He is so much talented! May these haters get what they deserve!

[@세린_2006]

Finally! Finally! Finally! God listened to my prayers!i knew there was something wrong from the beginning! , and if it was true , if he is really dating, i wanted to support him no matter what , but after i heard the truth i feel so disgusted! Joshua deserves an apology frrr!

[@Exo.svt.skz.nct.1485.4ever.]

I am so happy that my Joshua now given his justice. I knew that from before that Joshua is innocent. I feel so shame that what carats had done to him. He deserve loves, respect. He deserve biggest apology from carats and other people who judge him. Joshua is my life. I can't see him being mistreated and deadly treated by someone. My blood was boiled when everyone against him. I felt heartbroken like a piece of glass.

[@evelynmae123]

I don't think those who hated on Joshua are even carats they should be called hater,immature delusional people..... Me being a carat loves them so much support them and always with them and those who didn't think even once how this hatred gonna impact him arent fan and should not be called carat ,they don't deserve this name

[@Exo.svt.skz.nct.1485.4ever.]

​@@evelynmae123I am agree with you.

[@elizabethbottroff1218]

I'm usually oblivious. But even I saw how his fellow members supported him when all of this was kicking off. There was so much virulent hatred aimed at him. It's also no accident that yet another hate campaign is targeted at Hybe. Please start exposing the haters. Follow the money. Those billboards, trucks, and cars are rented. There are signed contracts that can be traced. BTW, he can go date and even marry anyone that he wants. If any fan is so delusional to be upset about that, then they should go away and stop spending money. However, any verbal, text, or physical attacks are unacceptable. Anyone that believes that hateful and harmful attacks are justifiable needs to seek therapy. It is *STILL* the fans' fault. Whether the initial spark was a rumor or a targeted noise campaign, it is not relevant. The fans and antis created an online mob that might have led to yet another idol to an end. Start policing these haters and shine the lights back onto them instead. Stop allowing vile behavior to hide in anonymity.

[@anakirola9204]

Joshua should be left alone. Some people have no life.

[@PhindileShezi-uy5rs]

Who he date is not our business. We are fans.

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

Fr

[@michelleomealy1389]

Fans are KRAZY !!!!! He is a grown man.....my lawd this creepy behavior has to stop !!!

[@ShwetaSinghh500]

That girl was beyond sus from the beginning like if u r dating, you would be considering ur partner occupation too. She was literally, what it look like, making love couple instagram!! Thats how i knew she isn't dating joshua.

[@chentomachi8393]

This make sense tho. But still... It's not 100% sure unless they confirm or deny.

[@neoneunnamanespecial]

@@chentomachi8393she followed troll accounts and liked comments that bashes Joshua.

[@poonienuu]

right, its silly to think kpop idols would do a lovestagram with their partner. its so obvious the idols would prefer to date quietly and play it safe with their secret partners. What the agency made her do to convince ppl was rlly weird tho. the matching childhood pics and finding where he got his exact clothes from??

[@jujoonline8248]

Thank you so much for this video! This is the first outright objective video in a positive manner that I‘ve ever seen on these rumors! Carats where fighting and reporting for their lives in the comment sections of multiple videos same as myself because they spread baseless rumor! It was so frustrating to see! Esspecially since the public always said that it was the fans doing but really Carats are so civil normally that that big of a change without any kind if proof wouldn‘t change the fandom so drasticly! That‘s why I always believed it to be targeted to ruin seventeen or noise marketing (but not from pledis side because even tho I don‘t think highly of pledis that is a no go to go this far. rumors are ok sometimes but more isn’t, it would have been basicly social suicide in this case)

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

Had to clear things up bcz ppl were really wildin'. Glad that you liked it💙

[@apop5494]

Please give him an apology

[@Minyoongi13245]

He is my bias and seeing him like this is like a heart attack 😭

[@yoon6oyi]

영상 정말 감사드립니다.드디어 모든 유독 팬들의 눈을 뜨게 해줄 영상!우리를 팬으로 믿는 것처럼 우리도 우리 아이돌을 믿으면...이런 상황은 안 일어나거든요.캐럿랜드가 케이팝에서 가장 평화로운 팬덤 중 하나였다는 걸 기억하면 이런 영상을 보면서 화가 나기도 하고 슬프기도 해요😭💔 자칭 캐럿이라고 하면서도 9년 가까이 함께한 아이돌도 믿지 못하고, 인터넷에 숨은 비방하는 사람들을 믿고 있는 모든 분들은 우리 슈아에게 사과하세요!!!

[@riti160]

The situation regarding Joshua and the dating rumors that surround him deserves attention. While it's natural for fans to be curious about the personal lives of their idols, this should never come at the expense of their privacy or dignity. In the case of Joshua, it's clear that some fans have taken things too far. Even though he has remained calm and patient throughout the ordeal, rumors and harassment continue to swirl around him. It's worth noting that if Joshua is dating someone, it's his own private matter and should not be used as fodder for gossip or speculation. It's also important to remember that idols are people too. They have their own lives and desires, just like anyone else. While they may be in the public eye, this does not give fans the right to control their every move or dictate their personal lives. The treatment that Joshua has received, both from fans and from those who seek to defame him, is unacceptable. From the harassment that he has endured to the way that his reputation has been tarnished, it's clear that this situation has taken a toll on him. Another giveaway that this rumor was planned is that even after this rumor broke out in August, the girl still copied shua's clothes and shoes. and in November she was finally called out for wearing fakes of a brand that Joshua sponsors and models. The PR and marketing staff of the brand also called out that fake cheap brand for copying their designs on her Instagram story. Despite this, shua has remained steadfast and strong. He has continued to work hard and pursue his dreams, even in the face of adversity. This is a testament to his character and his dedication to his career as an artist. In short, Joshua deserves an apology. He deserves to be treated with respect and dignity, just like any other person. It's time for fans to come together and support him, rather than tearing him down. Sorry for the rant just had to get this off my chest

[@Ch0i_da9yun]

I sent this vid to my friend who's a "carat" and wants shua out and now she can't say anything

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

Delusion is becoming a real problem now

[@Ch0i_da9yun]

@@kpop_kdrama_addict fr

[@Ch0i_da9yun]

@iloveuuuuus I did

[@W3nGI]

I agree Joshua deserves an apology for all those antis and "fans" who accused him of such things without evidence. Even if it was true they do not have any right to send those threats and hate comments not to mention they took it way too far. Whether or not "fans" were the ones who sent those trucks they still posted on his instagram and forced him to archive or delete all the posts because of the accusations. It got out of hand and Joshua shouldn't have to suffer because of the mistakes those people made. They should at least acknowledge that being an idol is not an easy job, it's physically and mentally straining, and we don't even know what type of situation Joshua was in at that time. We should also acknowledge the barrier and boundaries we have as fans, we are not their friends and have no right to mingle in his personal business. And I agree, just because we feel close to idols because we know their story as idol and all, we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. Let this be a lesson to think twice before assuming and think twice about our actions. We are on social media platforms, these are NOT valid sources of information. Lastly, I'm glad this issue is close to being resolved. Oh but I'd also like to mention that because of the rumors and issues about his posts on instagram Joshua had to switch to Weverse.. He's still actively reacting to his member's posts but currently isn't posting anything. This is again, the result of people's actions towards him.

[@Tahnyud_Einnah]

This rumor is so ridiculous, they don't even have a photo taken together :)

[@Bionca1214]

⚠️Long post⚠️ Another thing is that we as fans(ppl in general) don’t have to go and do any research to find proof(still not our business regardless), we should just ignore rumors all together… If it’s not confirmed by the artist/company themselves I’m not buying it. For me, I never think that a rumor is/could be true simply bc a company doesn’t confirm it… I don’t need to know if they’re dating, it’s their private business and they don’t need to share that with us(nor should they have to). ~What ppl don’t realize or understand when it comes to social media is that when you’re sharing/tagging or retweeting a post you’re adding more fuel to the fire, opening the door for ppl to “talk”… giving the rumors and the person spreading them more attention than they need or deserve(neg. attention is still attention) by increasing their views and recognition. Twitter, YT, Facebook etc. doesn’t know whether you like an account or not.. it’s looking at the number of likes, comments, views(retweets, quotes tweets & tags) and ppl don’t understand that. That rumor originated from a small account long before ppl suspected it was a set up. Me, my sister and many other carats didn’t even know the rumor existed until a little while later. Ppl(mostly fans) kept sharing & retweeting about it until it started popping up on everyone’s feed. The whole thing just blew up to the point where it eventually reached Joshua and media outlets.. The fact that Joshua came across a rumor that started from a small unreliable account speaks volumes itself. My point being that this whole situation could’ve been avoided and the rumor would’ve died out if ppl would’ve just ignored it in the first place. It’s no different than any other rumor/hate posts you see on social media. While everything was happening I even advised other carats to just ignore it and stop bringing it up constantly, bc if we were irritated and tired of hearing about it… how do you think Joshua and the guys must have felt. The only thing we can do is continue to love and support him the way we’ve been doing(without mentioning the rumor) and just ignore all of the bs. Especially when you already know that it’s not true, just ignore it. I’m not saying this is all the fans fault either, but a lot of us do share some of the responsibility, regarding how the situation played out. It shouldn’t have blown up the way it did and if this rumor really was planned for clout… we[carats] fell right into the trap. I know a lot of carats meant well and I get that as fans we sometimes feel the need to “protect” the artists but at the same time that can also be our biggest downfall.. sometimes causing more harm than good. Like there are times when I get upset and I remind myself to just ignore the bs bc at the end of the day I don’t know these people, so what do I look like arguing with a bunch of children on social media for someone I don’t even know?.. Ppl are always gonna talk sh*t and that’s something you can’t control. SVT knows who their real fans are and what they represent and they don’t need us to “protect” them. Showing them love and support, in a healthy & respectful way, is the best protection you can give. Hopefully everyone will learn from this.. so let’s stop giving haters something to talk about. *Edit* ~Also, we all know Joshua deserves an apology, but we also know that’s not gonna happen. Meaning, let’s not go on a rant and protest about it bc by doing so you’ll be stirring the pot, bringing attention to the matter(again). I know it’s tough, due to the extreme level of hate Joshua received, but sometimes it’s best to just leave it be… the truth has already been exposed. We know that person was wrong and so do they. Sorry for the long message guys, I just felt like this issue with social media and how we go about receiving/responding to information needed to be addressed. Stop responding to trolls and giving them attention lol ignore them📵🤫 Peace and love to everyone🩵🩷

[@eggiemybaby]

Honestly. I just felt like the girl is just some freaking troll. And I don't care about her. I don't even share any posts on SNS anyway. I will support SVT since I am here because of their music, and variety talent. Whatever personal stuff they have that doesn't concern me I usually don't care about it. They are humans too. And they honestly spent their days mostly with fans and work anyway so what more do we want? Even in their free time they do live when I prefer that they don't and just rest. I remember Dino putting a lot of patches on his shoulder before a concert and I thought, these guys are giving us everything so if they decide to date or not it's fine. They deserve to have a personal life too.

[@Bionca1214]

@@eggiemybaby Yes! Same… Their personal life has nothing to do with me. Tbh I feel like they’re one of the most transparent/open groups ever and they give us so much content it’s insane🤯 Me and my sister also don’t pay attention to the negative stuff we see, we just keep scrolling and sometimes laugh at how ridiculous some of them sound. Plus, we know they’re most likely a troll that knows nothing about SVT anyway. So, why entertain them you know?🤷🏾‍♀️

[@rina9210]

bro first thing even if they dated it would be totally normal. joshua is a grown man 😭 how are people expecting attractive men in their 20s not dating at all??? it may not be stalking etc but still a sasaeng behaviour to want to control their faves' life...

[@Mariadinh0103]

I feel so bad for shua😢😢 he didn't deserve that😭😭 he really deserve an apology.

[@vineelareddy4749]

fans who have hated him is js enough! LET HIM DO WHATEVER HE WANTS MY GOD AND WE HAVE NO RIGHTS TO LIKE CONTROL HIM HE CAN DATE OR MARRY WHOEVER HE WANTS!!!JS PLS STOP HATING HIM! joshu deserves an apology! at the japan concert i really felt bad for him crying pls support!

[@msj618]

They don't deserve to be called fans

[@vineelareddy4749]

@@msj618 so true call them has HATERS

[@AJ-yn6oy]

I just need Fandom Cleanse as some of the cararts are so toxic and delulu af.

[@k-kpopcore]

no matter what I will always love and support shua ❤

[@katejung1371]

Actually, Joshua is a grown man and it's not a sin to date... Idk why everything are so toxic!

[@bruapiniliarjaynathannatividad]

Is literally make me feel bad since that rumor being big deal, some of the artist doesn't have right to do what they want or even relationship

[@Viaivy1]

This is sad, and the fact that idols act normal like there’s nothing going on and still come in smiling everyday😢 Joshua really needs an apology

[@hitmanbangsyellowcrocs4213]

😳😳 The Kpop industry/ culture really scares me sometimes. Just the expectations demanded from these idols and the delusional self entitlement from fans is terrifying!😢; Kpop is just in a whole other level of .... i dont even know what to say.. SMH

[@gaiamorgosi7181]

But whether he was or not, he’d deserve an apology either way, what kind of behavior is this from alleged “fans”, everyone is a free human being so, as much as you can be unhappy about it, he’s free, an adult, so what is the problem?

[@jeonghanology]

Just because the girl wears the similar doesn't mean they're together even the selcas it can be similar to bcz maybe the selca was a trend or what ever, so many fans saying that they support them two because they are HUMAN to but we didnt know if its real or truth, it just so annoying for me this is my opinion to the rumors (issue) it just it hurt my heart when my idols get issue you know when the issue still can't say or believe if its really real

[@jeonghanology]

Pls correct my grammar I'm not that good at english , just hate me all you want it's just my opinion :)

[@jeonghanology]

But what if the pictures was actually a trend that's why it's similar? And how could Josh do it, and abt the "pregnancy" I've been seen on TIKTOK (don't believe on any socmed abt issue because it might not true even Facebook and of course tiktok)

[@jeonghanology]

8:52 so that's why he archive his photos 😢😢 why make fake rumor about idol? Do Josh do smth? Joshua did nothing at all, Josh wanted to like picture and post his selca then make a rumor abt it just because it's similar maybe they do it for CLOUT? (I'm not sure, "what if" they do it?) And please don't fight (I'm not saying you guys fighting but don't fight) pls think about positive don't think negative

[@marieconstantia4441]

Idols have every right to date if they want to. PEOPLE GROW UP.

[@brendasayre6321]

I am so glad to see him smiling again, and he does deserve the biggest apology ever! In an industry where cyber bullying is rampant, it is hard for our idols to live normal lives without facing ridiculous criticism as if they are not allowed to have personal lives or make mistakes. And even when there is nothing to talk about, baseless rumors are spread. Korean entertainment is a very stressful industry. This is also why we see and hear about celebrities committing suicide from all the hate and bullying they receive from anti fans and delusional netizens. We as fans, should never try to put our idols on pedestals. We should love them for who they are. Protect them and notify the management companies when we see or hear defamation so that they can act to protect our idols. If this is true then Pledis will eventually have evidence to prosecute those that tortured Joshua with their hateful nonsense.

[@Nurzahraabatrisyia]

im so mad at the people who was not defending joshua he deserves an apology

[@Jojo-sc8wg]

If it’s true - I’m really happy for Joshua. He deserves to be loved and happy . At the end of the day he’s human being, have his own personality and private life as we are. No matter what happens - he deserves to be happy❤️‍🩹

[@nishizrki]

They are human and deserve some privacy too. But if someone has been used by other for their popularity is not just.

[@yatziriw]

this is the problem with fans they think just bc theyre fans they somehow have a chance with the idol?? fans are delusional if they really think there arent idols out there in secret relationships!! these are crazy people who think they have a personal relationship with kpop idols..

[@diana_svy]

The fact that these “fans” would use the green basement as a way to insult Joshua is sickening. Using their humble upbringing as a way to degrade him makes me furious! Also those who think they have a say or can control their faves lives just b/c they purchased merch of the idol is infuriating. As an international CARAT, while I only scratched the surface of these rumors when they first appeared, my stance was that if they were true, I would be happy and rooting for him. Treating dating like it’s a taboo for idols who are full grown adults baffles me!

[@jshuaw4ve]

I hope he finds comfort soon:( it's really so shattering to know all of this and still not able to do much but then too, will always keep on respecting and admiring him with my whole heart

[@iwishiwasminholly]

You know what… rumour or no rumour these so called “fans” need to be mature enough to understand that our “baby bambi” is a friggin 28 year old grown ass adult who deserves happiness just as much as anyone else in this world. His occupation and passion is music and being a K-pop idol, but before any of this, he is firstly a human being. All of us deserve to do what makes us happy. At this age, in fact if Joshua has never dated anyone ever, THAT would be a little unbelievable. My man’s 28 ffs🥲 (I mean I know dating and having a partner isn’t everything, specially considering his work and schedule, but you know what I mean). So let’s all just support our gentleman in every which way possible. 2023 has been a really tough year for him, poor guy literally lost his smile for sometime. Let’s try to cheer him up and make his 2024 memorable and happy. I hope this video reaches him. He deserves the whole world 🩷🩵.

[@MfQasiandp]

EVEN IF he is in a relationship , it isn't our business, you should know that if idols are in a happy relationship that u should atleast be happy for them, show some fucking respect didn't ur parents and school teach you?? how dare u call urself a fan if u don't even support or are happy for them , if u are so against it then kindly leave and knock some sense into ur head. those ppl really need to realise that IDOLS ARE HUMANS TOO, not porcelain dolls that u can control whenever you want thanks for listenin to my ted talk from: me for: those so called 'fans'

[@littleryanth]

These haters shouldn’t even have been born This sounds very harsh and i understand that but its the truth if these “fans” go out of there way to be an asshole to an innocent person, they have no moral right to exist. JOSHUA DESERVES AN APOLOGY!!!

[@XerxesBreakSama]

Even if he is dating someone, he doesnt deserve any bashing. you dont own him. Even if he is secretly dating, why would you care? Again, you dont own him. It’s not immoral to be in a relationship with a single person. Dating shouldnt be considered a scandal. It a normal thing even among teenagers much more for adults.

[@wissousissi5661]

I can't believe that all of this came from the frandom who was one of the most peaceful fandoms in kpop 😢

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

Ikr

[@R_I_Y_A]

I know whatever happen in 2023 like that was such a horrifying joshua definitely went through a lot of things we couldn't even think of that but the thing is if we again spread this things brought up again , make it a highlight nothing gonna happen bcs those people who protested against joshua not gonna apologize this is reality they not gonna say sorry for their behaviour....this matter is now close not fully but just a little bit Joshua must have come out of all those things or even its not this then he must be trying to come out of all those things. Joshua wouldn't want an apology, he would just want us to understand him, love him and believe him , care & support. Definitely he has right to live a normal life the way he was living before all this rumours...if this all things start again possibly it can disturb him again It's just how i feel nd i really respect u all guys ur opinions .....sry if my statement hurt someone 🙏

[@amyfabiola-uf5pz]

Finally the true was revealed, Thank you to make this video for those persons who only hate him, they need to apologize. I really really was waiting for these moment, now I can breath in peace because I know that they will leave peace to joshuji. I will wait to see joshuji laugh and see him happy ❤❤

[@haniyaqasim9853]

please just becuase of dating rumours who can say that he lip sync and he dont have talent like what everyone is so weird they just want to target idols when they are bored and want to do something 👿

[@Domini86]

The fact that fans think they OWN idols and can dictate their personal lives..........I cannot wait for the day he announces his engagement etc

[@bdsha661]

Another giveaway that this rumour was planned is that even after this rumour broke out in august, the girl still copied joshua's clothes and shoes. and in november she was finally called out for wearing fakes of a brand that joshua sponsors and model. The pr and marketing staff of the brand also called out that fake cheap brand for copying their designs on her instagram story.

[@s0e9p73]

Everyone commenting and the video is about that he deserves an apology because it was a baseless rumour and not true. Listen even IF IT'S TRUE HE DESERVES AN APOLOGY BECAUSE IT'S HIS LIFE. HE CAN DATE. NO BIG DEAL. Now stop commenting he deserves an apology because the news is false. Even if it's true TRUE FANS SUPPORT HIM.

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

You're right

[@Ak_0604]

I want SVT to get married and still continue being SVT we should love them No matter what!!!

[@viheart]

He is a grown ass man who is allowed to date who he pleases rumor or not it’s no one’s business but his.

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

FOR REALL

[@Alina-Butterfly753]

Not only is Joshua my bias, he is also A HUMAN BEING! Anti's and so called "fans" are either making excuses to send hate or are taking the word 'selfish' to a hole other level. As fans we need to respect his interests, his boundaries, his privacy, and his personal life, and not control him. If that's to much he can ask for then those people can just leave. We love you Josh💜

[@UttamKumar-w4i]

I mean what so problem with having gf are they going to become monk for us no try to understand their life we fans say another thing and do another thing 😅

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

You're right. Our words don't match with our actions. We say that we wanna see them happy but can't stand their happiness if it's in the form of dating or marriage. Manipulation at it's peak

[@littlecherrypieanacharleto594]

I just accepted the idea of him dating or any idol for that Matter. If he's dating someone, he's dating someone. If he's not, he's not. It is what it is. 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

[@XxDevilMoonaxX]

Respect to the person who makes this kinds of videos...Joshua really doesnt deserve the hate of being with a girl.Nor other idols.They deserve to be free like us.They are humans.(idc if you hate me about this)I hate when so called fans also asking inappropriate questions like showing their body parts or something.They can be very uncomfortable.

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

FR

[@sharanibanerjee917]

This is so ridiculous. Like idols are human beings too . They have their own life too . They are idols that doesn't mean they have to sacrifice their life or their desires for their fans . They are just like us , and they have every right to do everything they want . This is so annoying . Some people think hating the idols will make them look great . No it doesn't make u look cool , it just makes u look more pathetic . They can date whoever they want . Its their life . All matters is their happiness. He is literally the purest soul I hv ever seen . And I feel myself lucky to be his fan . These shameless people are just a burden on this earth , wasting oxygen

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

Last 2 words cracked me up😭

[@SAYit17_._]

So true! Each and every word! And honestly Josh is so sweet and pure ! Seeing him smile in such a situation broke me! If I would have been in his place, would have sued her! These haters needs to exit earth! There is no sign of humanity anymore! And now I want seventeen to date and show the haters how it is done! And they have no right to invade in their lifes

[@yulistiaputri7471]

Thank you for upload this

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

💙💙

[@christinab1288]

I don't expect idols to be perfect, but Joshua seems to be the least likely to do something like this. Personally, I would not have cared one way or the other, he could even become a dad and I would still love him and SVT. But if people are hurting someone to get publicity, that is messed up

[@frananderson960]

who cares ifits true or not... let him live his life and be happy

[@jennifertakanori1772]

Thank you so much he dose definitely deserves an apology ❤❤❤we love out idols us fans dose get very jealous if the date but those Poeple are idol too and fan they allowed to be friend ans make frienes

[@JZL-hp5iz]

This was one of those cases that had me sitting there and shaking my head, because we’ve seen this happen time and time again. We have seen over the course of K-pop, especially as it gotten more popular more more alleged fans, stockers, people who just hate these idols and groups for no reason Literally plan out complete smear campaigns have the most out-of-pocket evidence and yet still keep falling for it. Were we talking about this, Lucas,Woojin, ZB1 member, etc. We keep seeing these things happening over and over again. We literally see this and careers for some of these idols. We see this become such a huge thing that they have to like go on hiatus or they end up having people genuinely believing the fabricated stories and stuff. We have people who get so invested in these people being the bad guys even though they’re all allegedly fans of these members are legally fans of these groups, and then, when evidence comes Out that none of its real that is false is fabricated that it was a smear campaign from the very beginning this person isn’t even a fan the video chat never even happened there’s no evidence that any of this was possible in the first place. Even when there’s so much evidence compiling against it, and actual fans are sitting there pointing this out or pointing out inconsistencies, or even just pointing out the fact, even if they were dating who cares, that’s their private life has nothing to do with their jobs. The issue is, I feel like so many fans like to jump on bandwagons because it’s like if these people believe this, then I don’t wanna be in the wrong by saying neutral or defending this person. Even if evidence are coming out, if they see that they’re still a huge majority of people who are on that hate bandwagon they will refuse to get off of it until inevitably it crashes and burns, and then what they go back and pretend like they never was a part of it. Like they weren’t spreading that false narrative, like they weren’t taking part in most likely making their favorite artist life, a living hell because Lord knows how anxious they get and how stressed out they are because now they have to worry about fans turning on them on top of whatever issues they might be having with the company and how the companies dealing or not dealing with it like seriously stress is one of the number one killers in the world and people be out heredescribing it to celebrities left and right just because of the fact that they can’t just sit back look at the fact or say nothing about it cause it has nothing to do with you.

[@CK_Loves_Tea]

I wasn't sure whether watching this video was going to be a good idea or not. I'm glad I watched it. Information is presented clearly & concisely. It's super respectful, even when discussing the actions taken way, waaaaayyyyyy too far. I'm really glad things are calming down & that Pledis finally stepped up.

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

Glad that you liked it. Your words made me smile. THANK YOU💙

[@rejdavid]

The company of the trucks rented should have a policy that will not allow malicious comments postings. Stop hating people. Please!

[@fionalee9783]

Shua faced so much hate and criticism without any solid evidence about the dating. that model and her agency as well as all those haters who sent threats and protest trucks should apologize to him!!

[@precillapop5812]

I can understand the rumor not being true but saying the girl was hired by a chinese company to create false rumors is crazy I doubt that it's true it's probably just fans making false assumptions

[@Liz_Lizille]

I knew that there were pictures missing on Joshua's Instagram. I just didn't know why. Now I know. I love HYBE for looking out for their artists. I just wish that SM was like that. Also Woojin's agency helped proving his innocence.

[@chocovanilla382]

yeeehhhhh finally it's over

[@katejung1371]

It so sick that you will need to apology for dating.

[@Lixx143V]

The most upsetting part to me was that pledis stayed completely silent for so long … they did not stand by Joshua’s side publicly.. they didn’t have to deny or agree to the rumors, a simple “ we will take action against those who send malicious messages against our artists” .. ANYTHING at all that showed they were on Joshua’s side… but they stayed quiet. Joshua lost his beautiful smile at one point… shame on everyone who made one of the kindest people on this earth lose his shine 👊🏼

[@JBeechem]

Yes Joshua does deserve a apology and apology from all those people who did all of this and PLEDIS like why be silent tho? Hopefully this won’t happen again and people shouldn’t just jump the gun without the rumor or speculation have any evidence because the idols the other person will be affected by it as well like never jump the gun and definitely don’t post hateful comments like come on now

[@avoxados690]

Thank you for this proper breakdown of the story like l was sooooo confused why he was getting so much hate. I think everyone who was part of the hate train is weird and immature asl like just because you're ugly and get no bitches doesn't mean you can hate on a good looking person that attracts good looking people. Like even if he happened to get a girlfriend l think it's great cos like he's almost 30 man he also deserves love and a life outside outside of the toxic kpop world. Haters are really bored people fr loke why would you invest so much time and money to hat someone that doesn't even know you like ew🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅

[@yorch3433]

plz keep this viral !!!

[@Luna_1317]

Pledis did nothing they just relase statements

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

Fr

[@Jeonghann_iyo17]

Tbh c-carats are too toxic, when you stated that ppl are sending hate trucks to joshua i remembered c-carats on Weibo were laughing at him and calling him mean stuff etc. I feel embarrassed being a c-carat JOSHUA DESERVES THR BIGGEST APOLOGY!!!

[@kpop_kdrama_addict]

The trucks were also sent by them

[@Livelaughloveseventeen]

Ikr c-carats love to directly jump on conclusions

[@SharviSingh-e8h]

I literally cried just thinking of him suffering 😭

[@mariajesna]

So much toxicity... do these fans really love these artist ... no way. I think these fans who overreact and try to cause emotional harm to artist are sasengs .... don't call them fans please

[@leejaypipo]

how far crazy fans can go ....

[@enhypen1762]

Joshua suffered a lot and truly deserve an appropriate apology from the anti fans as well as Choi min young. Please apologise

[@bethequeen1236]

Right I will be with Joshua even if he is dating love from carat

[@Cloudyskies333]

As soon as this happened, I literally defended him everywhere online

[@kimblecarl827]

What is WRONG with these people?!? They don’t own. Joshua is a grown man and if he’s found someone he’d like to date BE HAPPY him. How selfish do you have to be to try to kill his career for looking for happiness? Shameless and selfish. YOU DO NOT OWN JOSH AND WHO HE DATE IS NON OF YOUR BUSINESS. Get a life and leave him alone or, better yet, try being happy for him.

[@hingyi1394]

To be honest with you, this is probably why companies prevent relationships on a first place. If fans truly love him, they will respect his decisions and support him. No one deserves to be treated like this. I'm extremely disappointed.

[@Fraaayy]

i will never understand people harassing idols for dating other people to the point of spending a ton of money. get your own lives.

[@NVzz-lz9rz]

Can you imagine when he actually gets a gf? Man I’m scared of the amount of hate he’ll get, and not only him but most of the idols will probably get hate for dating someone, Tbh K-pop fandoms are one of the most toxic ones