Five33 Tiny Trainer FPVCrate Kit | how to build and configure

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The Five33 Tiny Trainer was designed by Evan Turner (headsupfpv) to help him train for DRL racing when he couldn't fly his full size DRL Racer. Now everybody is picking up this 3" drone and there's even a spec-class built around it!
Thanks to FPVCrate for sending me their Five33 Tiny Trainer build kit. I'll take you through the build and configure for this quad.
--- REFERENCE LINKS ---
Vifly ShortSaver - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGSad5iNiL6lo9E
BLHeli Configurator - github.com/blheli-configurator/blheli-configurator/releases
How to set endpoints and channel mapping - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5LdnWScbdZ9bpY
How to set up aux modes - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJayk3ebapmqgdk
How to unlock TBS Unify Pro32 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWKWamZ6oa-gh8U
--- PRODUCT LINKS ---
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Purchase the Project 533 Tiny Trainer kit at:
* FPV Crate - bit.ly/3E1E8fx
--- CONFIG DUMP / PROTUNE ---
# master
set gyro_lowpass2_hz = 325
set dyn_notch_width_percent = 0
set dyn_notch_q = 200
set dyn_lpf_gyro_min_hz = 260
set dyn_lpf_gyro_max_hz = 650
set acc_hardware = NONE
set dshot_idle_value = 700
set dshot_bidir = ON
set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT300
set motor_poles = 12
set yaw_motors_reversed = ON
profile 0
set dyn_lpf_dterm_min_hz = 91
set dyn_lpf_dterm_max_hz = 221
set dterm_lowpass2_hz = 195
set p_pitch = 51
set i_pitch = 99
set d_pitch = 43
set f_pitch = 105
set p_roll = 46
set i_roll = 94
set d_roll = 40
set f_roll = 99
set p_yaw = 50
set i_yaw = 99
set f_yaw = 99
set d_min_roll = 0
set d_min_pitch = 0
set idle_min_rpm = 5
#vtxtable
vtxtable bands 6
vtxtable channels 8
vtxtable band 1 BOSCAM_A A FACTORY 5865 5845 5825 5805 5785 5765 5745 5725
vtxtable band 2 BOSCAM_B B FACTORY 5733 5752 5771 5790 5809 5828 5847 5866
vtxtable band 3 BOSCAM_E E FACTORY 5705 5685 5665 0 5885 5905 0 0
vtxtable band 4 FATSHARK F FACTORY 5740 5760 5780 5800 5820 5840 5860 5880
vtxtable band 5 RACEBAND R FACTORY 5658 5695 5732 5769 5806 5843 5880 5917
vtxtable band 6 IMD6 I CUSTOM 5732 5765 5828 5840 5866 5740 0 0
vtxtable powerlevels 4
vtxtable powervalues 14 20 26 28
vtxtable powerlabels 25 100 400 500

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The kit I was sent did not include the Tinysleds LED set however FPV Crate says they are working on getting it to include in the future.

[@tesimpamonami9188]

Can I use a D8 remote from EMax to fly with it? Thanks

[@Postit_all]

Do you Think that the let's Will shine trough the sticker ?

[@jeffv2074]

Bro your awesome i'm fairly new to the drone hobby but not the RC hobby, your video are helped me out brother thanks!

[@PhrozenN]

Any chance you can use your influence to bring this crate back? :-*

[@baggszilla]

You know that's why I love watching Bardwells videos! You really do learn something new every time.

[@MittensFPV]

Needs the TinysLEDs Tiny Trainer LED kit to make it light up just like a DRL quad 😍😍

[@VijitChandna]

Hell yeag

[@hateeternalmaver]

Watching a Bardwell build is so strangely relaxing to me, hell I'm not even watching but just listening. I love it!

[@Shooter_FPV]

I didn't buy the kit, I built one from scratch, including the TinysLEDs kit... I LOVE THIS THING!!!

[@kblankenship]

That totally explains the tuning issues I was having with my tiny trainer.

[@blessedfpv7357]

FINALLY! I've been waiting for you to do this one! Also, thank you so much for all the help with my iflight titan brother! You're amazing! 🙏

[@Schradermusic]

When you think about it, it's pretty funny that we use conductive frames :D

[@K47ALYST]

Beginner soldering advice: use leaded solder and a lower temp (310-315C, 600F). JB solders at 400C/750F which is fine for wires, but you want a lower temp when soldering electrical components so learn and practice at a lower, more forgiving temp (but watch for cold solder joints!)

[@user-yk1cw8im4h]

315C never works for ground connections. I suggest anyone to go 380C minimum, go quick and hot is always better on components anyway.

[@stevensbox9625]

Dude, seriously, I do not need another drone (so says my wife anyway), but after watching this video & learning so much more about Betaflight, I'm ordering one. Still need more knowledge on PIDs, motor filtering, & Bidirectional whatever though. Why do you do this to me Joshua? I thought we had an understanding!! Do you know how much crap I'm gonna get when yet another box shows up at my front door??!! Guess I got to hope I get to the mail before she does. Keep up the great vids brother! Fly on.

[@BMathiesen]

I feel this so much hahah. I decided to let the girl go. Love FPV too much. Lol jk but seriously Joshua convinces me to buy too much gear hahaha

[@dartanyaun2042]

Very cool meeting you at the qualifier! Looking forward to seeing the video soon!

[@marcelozoni7814]

i am watching this even though i will never have one of these... that's sad but he does it so well

[@anthonyc5039]

Learn engineering and you could certainly have a nice little drone fleet! Plus, if your young technology will only get better and cheaper!

[@MadDragon75]

I see you are also one who can appreciate the art and understand how refreshing it is to watch someone who actually knows more than the average person do a video vs. Someone highly unqualified and trying to reverse engineer something and teach others in the same video.

[@fuzznut25]

Interesting advice with the “tinning” of the motor wires. I almost always only mount motors with 1 screw then remove them to tin lol. I’ve done a lot of soldering and built quite a few quads and still don’t trust myself

[@AcesTV7]

I learned something today...that motor short circuit trick around 14:30 is neat!

[@jpsalis]

Now is when I wish I had an FPVCrate Kit. This seems like a really cool quadcopter.

[@thomasa.7759]

u buy it separately for 245

[@bustyfpv7628]

Wow this is really exciting great video Joshua!! 💋

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty nice build, Joshua! Beautiful little quad! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@explosivefruits]

Woah, I didn't know about the Fet Braking, damn something new to consider!

[@LumpyFPV]

Good lawd I love watching you build things. You're a very soothing fella. Thanks for the quality content bruv. 🥰♥️🥴

[@archer4922]

Love this rig. Had it since the day the frame came out and all the parts within the first week that I had it. Now 2+ months later I still haven’t built it. Lmao 🤣. But I’ve been on a Fpv break bc I got a little burnt out flying 20 packs a day for 5 months straight. But I will be working on my tiny trainer on my next off day. Can’t wait to finally get it ready for some micro racing.

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

Yes, I actually watch all the way to the end 😀 Awesome build JB. Looking forward to the follow up.

[@roflcopterfpv]

Just sitting around on this rainy day off work watching your videos and I'm thinking..why havent you had a race set up at your house? I'm a noob but I'm addicted to the race scene here local to St.Louis and Mondofpv. A tiny trainer spec race would be awesome to see.

[@photomickeyable]

1. I always measuring resistance to detect short circuit with coils. Coils have more Ohm, than a short circuit. 2. You should clean non-clean flux if you want to put lacquer or plastic on the PCB. When you put some plastic on flux, you make something like canned. This improves the processes of PCB and soldering destruction. I always clean all types of flux, because I had some problems with it at measuring circuits.

[@crckdns]

I love the fact that you are using metric system instead of that imperial nonsense for your international viewers

[@patrickcolclough2423]

Is that irony? Metric on your 5" :)

[@crckdns]

@@patrickcolclough2423 I know XD I also had to grin while writing this^^ But there are some cases, where imperial measurement is "default" .. in that case the prop size is internationally in inch^^

[@TailSpinRCSpain]

We always learn something from your videos.

[@overfly_pt]

Yes I'm a Super Fan, great video JB👍👌

[@dutchfpv7010]

Dang! I saw this video one day too late or I would have run over to Knoxville to see it in action in person (and maybe challenge you to an old guy race). Can't wait to see how you did. Thanks for the video!

[@cj691]

Water clean fluxes and acid fluxes are usually the issue with corrosion and conductivity in my experience. Rosin flux which is common in electronics fluxed solder does not need to be cleaned, but it looks better if it is.

[@h2o-fpv623]

yes today i did learn a couple of things that i did not know thank u JB.

[@archer4922]

After 2-3 months of not flying think ima get out this weekend when this hurricane fully passes and compare my FalcoX tune to this betaflight tune. Haven’t flown betaflight in 2 years now but wanna try it out again.

[@stevesmcfpv2614]

Awsome i guessed a while what is it about that little fellow. Thanks Jb for the inside. And with ghost dope!

[@two3fpv]

Thanks for this one JB, excellent build vid!

[@sixtofive]

The caddx kangaroo can be a great looking camera if you go into the settings and turn the sharpness down to about 50 to get rid of the digital shimmer. It's a shame they didn't include the led set made for this build, but it's still a great kit.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

They're getting the LED set just didn't have it yet.

[@sixtofive]

@@JoshuaBardwell That's good news! It really adds something special to this build, and I'm not usually a big fan of adding leds. I'm looking forward to seeing your thoughts after getting a chance to fly it. Good luck at the races!

[@MasterApeFPV]

I.. need... one! 😆 Nice video JB! As always!

[@tehllama42]

If Evan can absolutely smash my best times with one of these, I know JB will do quite well running them. They have the amazing 3" quad trait of being able to stay high throttle in turns quite easily, which gives them great release from sequential moves (i.e. descending ladders, corkscrews) - but struggle will be not grounding out in the split-S on that course.

[@nikotttin]

Thx for the ghost setup. I’m waiting for mine.

[@ripperfpv9880]

I’ve built 4 I prefer the xing motors to the tiny turners but still a great pack of fun

[@RockTouching]

That ghost receiver is tiiiiiiiiny

[@RCOverKill]

Pretty cool little quad!!

[@LilwickedFpv]

Great video luv everything about it keep up the great work 👌🏽👍🏽

[@JamieBishbosh]

What a cool little quad, would love that! Don't suppose you want to add it to my collection?? 😄😁👍

[@sonarfleet2375]

Joshua the best in the drone world.

[@stayliftedgermany4041]

The tip with shortening the motor wires is amazing, thank you Joshua

[@REVOLUTIONDRP]

Great video! Thank you! What is the difference between spinning direction of props - inside-out, or outside-in? How does it change the flight characteristics? Thank you!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIuvXnV4oZ59pKc

[@REVOLUTIONDRP]

@@JoshuaBardwell Awesome! Thank you so much!

[@Lucas_Middleton]

dude joshua thank you so much man i now have RPM filtering on my brush less whoop

[@adnamamedia]

I'm mediocre at soldering on a huge 30x30 F7 board, I could only imagine how difficult it is for these teeny parts and microscopic solder pads!

[@hookabunny5030]

I so want one maybe 2 lol amazing.. hey man you are a great go to for well everything quadcopter flyer thank you

[@Karbonkage]

Great vid mr Bardwell 😌😍

[@Schradermusic]

Why have I never thought about putting the iron down when pre tinning wires? It makes it so much easier

[@GreenEyesFromGondor]

My thoughts exactly!

[@ldemiranda]

Hi Josh. Once again, great video. I just my kit from fpv crate and built it. I have followed your instructions but I am getting errors on my motors with rpm filters on. I have already built quite a few kwads with rpm filters and always get 0%. I am on Blheli S 16.71, BF 4.2, 8k/4k, 12 poles, Dshot 300 etc. Any ideas what usually causes these errors? Bad solder joint, bad FC? I'm at a loss. Thanks in advance for your help.

[@mauritz1774]

Das sind ja richtig coole kleine Koks Tüten

[@DoctorrMetal]

Lol i just bought JESC for my Beetle. The more you learn! At least i supported the inventers of bidirection dshot. Can't get it to work though. Even upgraded the FC to TT F7 HD mini. Edit: Nevermind, this dosen't apply to H-esc's. And i found a solution. Disabling the LED strip (remember to move the slider in configurator, CLI dosen't work).

[@ubiquitilo4788]

Your a good man dude keep at it.

[@ssrobzoom]

You should place a link to all you building supplies used on builds like Kapton tape and flux my 2 cent.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Check my website www.fpvknowitall.com I have a complete list there.

[@TheShuk9782]

hahahahaha...i like the ending of this video!! nice JB

[@kyleinwisc]

Could you post a weight on your build? Maybe in a flight vid. It seems like it would be kinda heavy for 3". Replicating the drl setups, but not really what would be faster.

[@zachcagley9519]

9:55 pro tip! Make sure you wash your hands well before you do this to remove any oils or it's a lot harder to get the solder to flow correctly. That's my 2 cents.

[@Schradermusic]

Very valuable info, thanks!

[@ELValenin]

Oh I never did that! Thanks a lot!

[@SacredMilkOG]

"measure twice - cut once" I'm still trying to understand how this 4-in-1 TX06 OSD works or how to set it up... I just can't find info on it though. 🙃🥴 End of video question: What's the story on FPV crate? I'd love to be just sent things to build and test once in a while. I enjoy the tediousness that comes with a neat build :) I'm nearly itching for more stuff to mod or build. I only have my H8s' for now and I'm waiting on some extra parts. (My Trashcan is lateeee :P but I don't see myself modding that very much unless it breaks... when it finally gets here. Mostly wanna figure out my Tx06 OSD and the FPVcrate guys you talked about now. Lol)

[@veek2767]

I had to order a soldering kit to repair a torn motor wire on my Drone. Wish me luck! Got it in today going to go tap them together tonight after work. I just want to get back in the air >

[@jpsalis]

Careful you don't short anything, lot of current runs through those wires. GL!

[@KCQuadTronX]

this is really cool thanks for anoher great video

[@robaxelsson530]

Joshua, you always comment on “motor screw length”, but never addressed (in ur build videos) how to check if they are to long. I installed new motors on a 5” the base hid the mounting holes so I couldn’t see if they passed the base. Had hot motors.. discovered they were grounded, using a multimeter (your video Thankyou!). Also with the motor pad being so small and close, this FC has pads on both sides so u can solder the 2 outside wires on top and the middle wire on the bottom..

[@techyg-quads6350]

Any hope for a DJI version?? Not sure if a Caddx Vista / Air unit can fit.

[@MadDragon75]

What a coincidence... I just flashed my practice board with BetaFPV 411 last night.

[@rccrazy7495]

Hey that's legal here cool under the 249gm limit.

[@wrstew1272]

How did you bind receiver without power? I know you are good, but I am stumped.......JB F7 on firmware flash screen- approximately when????

[@rustyalford6286]

Looks like a hoot! I wonder if it could manage a Cadex Vista?

[@ssrobzoom]

When building do you use locktite? I come from flying RC Nitro Helicopters and its a must on them to keep them flying.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I should but I usually don't

[@ChristKrew-Rev1.8]

Will the betaflight part of this video work with the v4 of this aio? I can build but bf and the radio programing get me every time.

[@cbsflows1041]

I wonder if the solder 60/40 is really toxic for us when we build or rebuild things daily?

[@KernsJW]

Watched this video before, said "oh thats nice", saw price and said nah I am good. See Nurks latest race video and say "oh I want one, wonder how much". I google it, see the price and say "thats a bit expensive" and then the search brings me back here. It certainly has some great components, but still too much for what i want to spend on a little baby quad.

[@Retrograde99]

the kester solder you use is very expensive at least for me in europe i can only find it on amazon it's almost 117 dollars 100euro's just insane for 2 rolls of solder i could get 3 kilo's of cheaper solder for that is there any other good cheaper solder you maybe know?

[@aviphysics]

Maybe it is just because I have used lead free silver solder for 25+ years, but I don't understand why so many hobbiests hate it so much.

[@roberttruesdell6151]

What Lipo is used? Just ordered the tiny trainer. Need lipos

[@MadVultureFPV]

Super fan here lol

[@CF_Joel]

Interesting. I want to build one.

[@h8jlhbtw]

With regard to the swear word. No worries my 7 year old still loves yah, Bardwell!

[@chrisB_OG]

Will this product ever become available again?

[@kwadskul4751]

We need a full size 7 inch version!!!

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

The Josh Bardwell way is the ONLY way Sir!

[@williamlosch]

Put mine in the TOP of a tree the other day & it threw the battery to the ground :( Guess I’ll try the fpv crate version...might wait for your premium freestyle build video tho

[@Honorbound611]

Thanks for all the Videos Josh! Im new to FPV and have watched a ton of your vids and rotor riot vids and have learned tons from you guys. Thanks for that. But heres the issue I just got a LUX F7 Ultimate FC from getFPV based off your knowitallfpv site. After reading ur review on it and several others I ordered it yesterday... A TBS pro 32 VTX and a nice 60a Lumenier 4 in 1 ESC. So i was watching ur videos on the FC and stumbled across this chooch brokensteel who had a video titled does the LUX have a fatal flaw (referring to the FC I just ordered) the vid was him fixing a boiler for 20 min and the last 3 min he says the FC is garbage. We talked I got no where.... Bottom line. Is the LUX F7 Ultra FC flawed?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I mean you already bought it so let's see how it works for you.

[@Honorbound611]

@@JoshuaBardwell have u heard of it just failing for no reason? Brakesteel claims it burns up and thats why u and steele went quiet on the FC.

[@Honorbound611]

It really doesn't sound logical to me. Lumenier would have addressed an issue if its repetitive.

[@Honorbound611]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d32QoJisgt6tkJY

[@Honorbound611]

Alex Taylor left a comment at the top and thats where I left my comments. He seems to think u work for lumenier and cant b open on the subject. Smh. Hence the chooch part. Thanks for ur time and videos Josh! Ur awesome in my books haahaha

[@Ein_Einhorn]

Yes I love your videos😊❤

[@Rene200Y]

So, as BlHeli_S 1.61 adds bidirectional DShot, does that mean that we dont have to aquire and flash JESC anymore? 🤔

[@fatmaelshaikh]

This drone is like a drl drone

[@hateeternalmaver]

"official version of BLHeliS that supports bi-directional Dshot?" Meaning no more need for Jazzmaverick or the other one? It might have been in your "using BLHeli wrong..." video or in a livestream but I totally missed it. What I'm saying is thanks, again. ;)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Correct. Sort of. JESC still has 48k and 96k.

[@ChristKrew-Rev1.8]

this has been a year.... do you think this is going to be around for awhile?

[@grassfpv1876]

I love ur vids jb, but those the worst solder joimt I think 8ve ever seen u make my dude. Love the content

[@stevengonzalez4111]

Hey Joshua, thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge in this wonderful hobby. My question is how to bind to a receiver that is integrated into the board? I have this old flight board that’s used for micro builds. I’m not sure if it’s a scisky or a pico board. It has no bind button and there’s no writings or markings on it except DSM/PPM. I tried CLI “set spektrum_sat_bind=9” command but Beta flight won’t accept the command. I appreciate any help, thanks

[@itsme-fr5fr]

Are you sure it has a receiver built in? Usually if it has a receiver built in it would have a bind button too. Is there solder pads under where it says dsm/ppm? If so you probably need to add your own receiver. If it dose have a dsm receiver built in the command to get it to bind can be a little different depending on what version of betaflight your using but im not sure the difference right of hand unfortunately though.

[@stevengonzalez4111]

@@itsme-fr5fr Hey Josh, thanks for the quick reply to my previous. I've got one more Q if I could. I've got a 180 vortex with a broken board. What flight board would you think be a good replacement board for the Immersion vortex 180. I need a controller without an integrated PDB /ESC. I've reached out to Immersion but I'm still waiting for a reply. Thanks sir.

[@stevengonzalez4111]

@@itsme-fr5fr Hey Joshua, On endpoints, Would it hurt anything if I use “enabled max throw” to reach my endpoints? Thanks again

[@armandrone9016]

Finally they created a batery holder to eliminate, once and for all, the inefficient battery straps ... I hate battery starps, I never used these wastes ... I developed my own battery holder with rubber foam, and they don't allow ejection battery or even a stronger fall ...

[@veek2767]

That swipe the blob thing is important and not in any peoples tutorials on soldering. Question: Does it matter the order you connect the 3 wires to the motor? Why are there 3 wires and if there is no order to put them on whats the point of there being 3 when you could just do one!?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZWmnYl-j92Fd8U

[@flexdfpv]

There is one wire per sets of magnets in the motor. Each motor has three "poles". The ESC powers each pole of the motor in sequence to make the motor go round. If your motor spins one way, you can swap any two of the three wires to make it spin the other way. Fortunately you can also change this in in the ESC configuration (using BlHeli/BlHeli32 configurator), so you can just solder all the wires on straight, and then correct it in the ESC configuration later.

[@veek2767]

@@flexdfpv ​ @Joshua Bardwell Fortunately for me it was just one wire that popped off but thanks for the info!

[@paul-jd9ic]

what about futaba I'm a newbie and have been using s bus futaba on my 3 inch and i did learn a lot from you thank you. 3rd diatone gtr 349 futaba on every one

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That will work same as FrSky SBUS.

[@GregoryBrown-fe5js]

Did you get a sample of the new shark byte 2?

[@kreativ_corals]

14:29 great little hidden gem of a tip! thanks for sharing, JB

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Credit to Nurk for it.

[@kreativ_corals]

@@JoshuaBardwell haha he would...

[@LoganMcKneelen]

Designed by Mondo

[@nothingbutadreambutm]

Wow can’t believe you made one nice welcome to the micro addiction haha

[@ninjamonkeyfpv8855]

I've owned 2 and built 3 of them.. just broke an arm on my crate build TT..

[@scottmilano2940]

The parameters you used to setup this quad included “acc_hardware=None”. But the board does have accels. Will this break angle mode?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes.

[@catspyjamass]

@@JoshuaBardwell Hi. Does this mean there will be no Angle Mode with this setup? I am new to FPV and still use this mode whilst I'm building my skills. Thanks

[@sergejscibulskis9498]

Like it love mini drones

[@salientlounis]

Can i build this drone and put a DJI FPV system ?

[@LehtusBphree2flyFPV]

Does the tiny trainer come in DJI HD? Could you convert it to HD by any chance

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You can but you have to use a carbon top plate not the canopy

[@shanegauthier5845]

What is that binding tool /programer