DJI goggle patch antenna top or bottom? (Lumenier Axii HD)

[@stingersswarm]

FYI Three antennas are used for transmitting and receiving functionality. Only one is used for recieving only. (Per their FCC filings, when wearing lower-left antenna is receive only)

[@sunshynff]

I'm glad I saw this, I just read Oscar Liang review from when they first came out, stating he asked a rep in passing, who stated the top two that transmit and recieve, but even Oscar said in the article he wasn't 100% sure. I'm thinking the FCC would be sure..lol, Thanks Stingy!!

[@charlesmarseille123]

@@ebstmnt this is suprising. Why would there be double transmitting antennas when the main need is a reception of video signal? I would have guessed the opposite. @RCSHIM?

[@rubenvaneupen7327]

This is all for v1, right? For v2 seems like two are only rx and two only tx (diagonally)? On an analog setup one would typically go for a directional and omni antenna combo on the rx only mounts. Same for DJI goggles v2? And then for tx mounts also directional and one omni I guess?

[@TheConfigurat0r]

Every video you tell me I'm going to learn something that day.. And you've always been right. I'm impressed.

[@daemn42]

KZbinr KozakFPV did this same test with AXII HD patches on top and bottom and mixed (one on top and one on bottom), and generally speaking found that having the patches on top provided a higher bitrate than on bottom, followed by mixed. KZbinr Waldemar Kraus did same test with X-air's (at range, rather than penetration) and found that X-airs on top was better than on bottom, and X-airs on one side and best combination was X-airs on top and TrueRc Stubbies on bottom. One thing I notice with the AXII HDs is that it's hard not to point them at the ground. Most pilots fly with the head down a little or a lot, and that's not great for patches that are mounted at a fixed angle. One of the advantages of the X-air was that I could tilt it upward relative to the goggles so that it points out straight even when I'm a bit head down. With the AXII HDs I constantly have to make a conscious effort to keep my head up, which is a bit annoying. They're convenient for transport, but not sold on their performance yet.

[@waldemarkraus2855]

Yep, those X-Airs and for sure also the AXII HD's have a very directional beam. In my static hoover test I noticed turning my head significantly lowered the bitrate. So you really have to look into the direction of the quad. I verified the test on next day and patches on top are the clear winner.

[@JavisHD]

Quite the bummer they didn’t just angle them up a bit. Thicken the plastic on the bottom to compensate for the standard head down posture, or include some sticky shims etc

[@flo-ridafpv5713]

@@JavisHD glad they didnt do that, i tilt my head back w dji, funny since i did opposite w hdo rapidfire lol

[@daemn42]

@@flo-ridafpv5713 Perhaps it's time for a higher camera tilt angle? I noticed I used to look up a bit more when I was flying too fast for a lower camera angle and was subconsciously tilting my head up, hoping to see more above the horizon.

[@JavisHD]

Some sticky shims should work for anyone’s preferred head angle

[@thiferrei]

@Joshua Bardwell, would you compare these AXII with the IFlight Crystal HD patches?

[@imager09tube]

You are absolutely right! Omni at the top is the right way!

[@meralharbes]

Thanks for testing the two options. To me bottom patch looks clearly superior. I'll run them as such.

[@pweiss010583]

I bought recently the axiis hd set and they destroyed my sma connectors on my brand new V2 googles...they pushed 3 of 4 sma male pins inside, I have poor signal now...😭😭😭...not worth it in my case!

[@renesfoodpassion]

now the same question to the v2 goggles... wich antennas make sense? antenna connector 1-4 dont switch as by the v1 version...

[@DaveyFPV]

You have multiple DJI goggles??!? I only have two sets of analog goggles, one of them a 3 year old eachine box. Did I just watch 16 minutes about antennas for the DJI system when I don't have the DJI system?

[@slowentropy4531]

Plenty of us tight here with ya bud, its fun to dream right?? Hahahah

[@QSpeedRacer]

Same.. maybe he will mail me one of the goggles

[@daemn42]

@Joshua Bardwell , you know you can 3d print those sma thumb screw adapters yourself. On thingyverse there's a couple different ones (I use the COFPV Thumbscrew adapter) that will fit snug over the SMA connector and fill the hole completely in the DJI goggles to keep them from wobbling. If they're snug on the sma connector it'll even to pull up a bit when they bottom out (to prevent twisting the jack loose internally). Print em in harder TPU or PLA. I print 4 at a time to avoid overheating any one. And check your g-code to ensure that the outer walls are joined properly with the inner (it's only 2 layers thick in total).

[@avronaut]

The point is that for this price they should be included.

[@DIMONSE123]

For long range flying directional patch antennas on top much better in my experience, easy 8km range. For "small" long range like 3-5km, I put patch antennas on bottom and stock dji antennas on top, cause stock antennas little bit above my head, and works better

[@MikeMcCarty6453]

You've got 8km with these antennas?

[@droneracerswarehouse7641]

I found that the patch works better on top I use Iflight crystal patch on the the bottom I found out that trees go red signal right away.... J put Iflight crystss as l psych on top get better range trough the trees . I use lumineer stubbies Same deal get better penetration

[@devilcfpv2621]

This is definitely worth the money, I use this and it has enhanced my range and penetration a good bit and I have the patches on bottom and I get better range then on top

[@joyboy1722]

question are you using these for the dji fpv unit or for quads?

[@devilcfpv2621]

@@joyboy1722 o yea I build my own, I only fly Gravity Loss fpv GRL frames. Their indestructible... But the Dji fpv drone yea No I can’t fly that hunk of laggy plastic, flys like big ole large Potato with motors 😆. On my channel you can see all I build and stuff I post on here weekly some times more then that

[@Arthur-rh9tf]

I use the stock antennas and I feel like the range is so short and breaks up behind simple things like trees.

[@rnoland6585]

What would be the outcome of doing one on top and one on bottom to have both directional/ omni for both recieve and transmit?

[@DIMONSE123]

I try it, for some reason its not work well on long range

[@nimhbot8919]

Thanks for the review Joshua. My order is placed for the panel antennas. I plan to pair them up with my set of Singularity 5.8 Stubbys that I’m currently flying with. Hoping this will give me that little extra penetration in the concrete jungles of Seattle.

[@heethn]

For penetration I'm using 2 long TrueRC singularities on top and 2 Far Vew helicals on bottom. I look ridiculous but can penetrate 800' of heavy woods with this set up!

[@stickboyfpv4742]

Thats AWESOMME! And totaallyyyy worth it!!! 🤟🏼😝🤟🏼

[@sunshynff]

I've been using Triump stubby's on top two, regular Axii patch on bottom. Even though range better than stock, wasn't sure if it could be better. Your results showed, even with top omni as better, it's not a big deal either way. Thanks for another great video Joshua!!

[@noforyoutubepremium3108]

RCSchim has done extensive testing on dozens of antennas at different positions on a tripod. He most definitely found that omni antennas benefit greatly from being vertically oriented and not horizontal, or laying on their side. None of them performed anywhere nearly as good laying down. That's where they'd be if you mounted them on the bottom, and that's why they did better with them on top, and I strongly believe that long antennas, that get them above you head, will greatly benefit signal quality because they are higher, above your head, and oriented as they were designed to be, completely vertical. I'll bet that long omni's on the top, bent straight up and vertical, and good patches on the bottom, would be the very best reception you could get. Most don't want to use those for one reason....they're lazy and don't want to have to take off their antennas every time they put away their goggles! lol I get that, so it's all up to whether you want to take them off each time, or leave a stubby on, and whether or not the less reception and penetration is a big deal to you. Most of us don't use 25mw, so with the higher power, it most likely won't make much of a difference! :)

[@m.sierra5258]

Most of you don't live in Germany ... fcking radio restrictions

[@cheechfpv]

Would love to see a new video comparing the original Axii HD patch’s with the new Axii 2’s.

[@ebstmnt]

I just went through the FCC filing on the DJI goggles. Bottom left antenna (opposite side to the battery connector) receives only. Upper left antenna transmits all the time and it alternates between the lower right and upper right antennas for transmitting depending on which one has better reach to the air unit. So you always have two antennas transmitting and 1 receiving at any given time.

[@00fluxone]

got the stubbies and they are awesome - better than stock, all the range i ever need - so low profile

[@marsmachine1156]

Great video. These have been super hyped. Thanks for that last bit saying the TrueRC stubbies are legit. I love them too. Saving me some money here 😅🙏🏻

[@blizsgarage8487]

Hi JB, what would you recommend for an antenna upgrade for the V2 DJI goggles?

[@bighercman]

What about mixing them up. One omni on top and the other on bottom? Say one on the top left and the other on the bottom right or vice versa. Is there a reason why you would need to have the antenna types together on either the top or bottom as opposed to mixing them? Is it because the top and bottom are grouped together? I don't have DJI and haven't read much into how the antennas work on those goggles.

[@KyleLi]

So what happens if you put one on the top, and one on the bottom?

[@terrorbirbfpv4732]

with your face in the goggle, patch antennas on the left, stubbies on the right. best reception for me.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic work, Joshua! Thanks a lot for testing and comparing them! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@michaelc5027]

Yay, been waiting for you to do a video on these antennas, thanks Mr. Bardwell 👍

[@SickocrowAU]

Mario is a Boss. Love his work.

[@HolaACchillin]

I just bought dji gear used with this setup. Great intel ❤️

[@joshgault61]

Will you do an updated V2 video too? I guess it would be patches on RX and omnis on TX.

[@CharlesMiner]

Noob question but can the antennas on the air unit be upgraded or is it just the goggle antennas that we should upgrade?

[@PhillGraaf]

great question!

[@su_K3N]

Great video Joshua. Unrelated, I would love to hear your opinion on Redcats aquisition of Fatshark and the role Rotor Riot will play, especially with the DJI partnership.

[@Ark__Angel]

watch last nights live stream he talks to Drew about it for an hour

[@su_K3N]

@@Ark__Angel yup, just saw a blurb from drew about it. Good looking out.

[@proz71ful19]

I don’t really understand antennas.. but I love them. Just like batteries. They excite me for some strange reason

[@yunkeacme]

I have them, I found better performance using them at the botton and 2 long polarized on top. Also, when flying in front of concrete I also the 2 menace patches on top for better penetration. I hated to remove my digidapter. But is just 2 screws and i only have a 3" analog quad with a naked hero6 for specific cinematic/job related footage.

[@domentrontelj7142]

Finally a decent test of Axii HD

[@nwcustomdecals]

I've found that in open air (trees, field like surroundings) 4 omnia work great for me but I oddly found the patches work better when buildings are involved.

[@raaah]

To these work on version 2 of the goggles? Someone please help me answer this question

[@Nine_883]

Is the DJI system going to meet the FAA Remote ID crap coming out soon?

[@nullx8]

13:43 well they are pre-bend cables in the box in the direction you supposed to install them, not so sure why you installed them upside down even the connector clearly lined up with the connection on the bottom, but here we go ;)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Because I wanted to find out for myself not trust the vendor.

[@MrApru1]

The torque spec on sma is 5 inch-lbs. They make special 5/16 torque wrenches just for that.

[@soli3605]

Very interesting, dont have HD but very interested in it haha I got a second hand Dom v3 till then Thanks JB, always love tuning in and learning something! Hope to catch your stream soon :)

[@filipefpvrccar421]

Thanks JB for your review 👌👍

[@vigor3d]

Another great informative video for mere mortals thank you, Which patch do you prefer the HD or the Iflight ones I see in some of your other videos???? cheers Wayne

[@mmmasterscross7915]

Thanks for sharing this video Joshua

[@christophertilley4297]

You’re a content producing machine! Great video!

[@JPSMITTY]

Dude..... Your awesome. I sure love your videos.

[@mazyarahmadi5424]

I think you did answer, the stubbies on top is better ;)

[@twinturbostang]

Did you face the direction of flight for the second set of tests ("long range")? Because you were facing towards the back of the property for the first set.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes definitely.

[@seanolley6536]

Hi JB will these antenna work OK with dji fpv that comes in the box as stock.

[@GreenEyesFromGondor]

I considered getting these since I get so much breakup and noise in the video in my backyard (barely 40 feet away on even the higher Mw), but now I’m wondering if my goggle receivers have fried. Do you know of a way to tell for sure?

[@chopperglide3710]

If you only have two directional antennas first advice was to have them on the right side, now u should connect them on top or bottom. How is that figured out. Have some one made a (vs) test on that.

[@Mohead2222]

Joshua I have the DJI fpv drone combo. I would like to get the DJI air unit and build my own drone. Can I use my goggles and controller with the air unit? Do they make a drone that you can fly with the controller and goggles that come with the DJI fpv combo?

[@metalmonkey1113]

Thank you for making this video, loved it.

[@meanderingmike7640]

I heard putting a crossfire into the drone would help significantly but i dont have the slightest clue how to integrate it on the dji fpv drone and cant find any guides for it

[@jeredondoni5870]

i love what you write in your door , ill subscribe now!

[@dominikbeneder5046]

Hi good afternoon can you please tell me how to fly the dji fpv combo above 500m or increase to 1000m? I'm from Austria and need it in the mountains

[@timhowitz9405]

Wait, what happened to the b roll intro

[@rubenvaneupen7327]

On an analog setup one would typically go for a directional and omni antenna combo on the rx only mounts. Same for DJI goggles v2? And then for tx mounts also directional and one omni I guess?

[@bohan9957]

I don't get all these aftermarket "upgrades". Been using the stock DJI antennas and very happy with it. Why spend more money? I've also sold all my analog stuff and never looked back after getting the DJI digital system. Putting analog on the DJI goggle? Nah.

[@djchriscaution]

IF you looking for Range - Watch-> Ghost Recon Advanced Tactics PT2 - Best config and separate video flight test

[@WayneLouie]

I just got a set and no 3M Tape. Is it missing or am I supposed to get that somewhere else?

[@hugusvideo]

Hello there, Will there any problem caused by using analog adapter on DJI goggles? Thanks

[@rawfpv1207]

5:10 dont you worry bardwell i'll just wrap a doob, or write a random comment if a bit bores me

[@massimilianogadioli9386]

Only for sure, if I understood correctly in your test with the patch down and omni on top is better right?

[@MindRiderFPV]

Finally got them.

[@cainesanders5845]

iv got a dji fpv. and the v2 goggles I find the range is really bad in some locations causing me to loose connection. I'm hearing you talk about alot of different parts what is the one major thing I need to change to get the range? is it the anntena

[@Mikeb8134]

just got mine and I saw a little less range than stock, there are just plug and play right?

[@Jwmbike14]

Safe to say these are DJI V1 not V2? I was watching another channel that stated due to the diversity of the V1 it's better on top. But the V2 is totally different. Nonetheless, your testing seems pretty conclusive if it's indeed V1.

[@leehudson1384]

I thought the data clearly pointed to the Omni's on top being the best

[@adithyafpv]

do these antennas works with dji fpv drone that comes with these dji fpv goggles v2?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Stock antennas are your best bet in my opinion

[@sully4875]

Great job man 👍🏻I have them and the true Rc stubs can I use together ? true RCstub on top and patch on bottom or are they match to work better same with same ?

[@ATF2099]

the advert shows both setups and im confused, both look cool , im gonna do a criss cross setup cuz im a genius engineer.

[@maddmavic]

So will these give the dji fpv drone better penetration also and range ?

[@MRdeLaat]

im in ur fridge, watching you fpv

[@moek]

I wish you did linear antennas as well.

[@sunshynff]

He did, the stock antenna are linear polarized omnidirectional

[@RCOverKill]

I'm gonna get DJI if shark byte doesn't impress me. Would you recommend getting a the DJI TX? I know the air unit has an Rx, the Vista does not, is that correct? What is your preferred DJI setup, like tx, and air unit, or Vista and your TX?

[@trowland9575]

I have dji controller, works with full size air unit and caddx version (lite), goes a long ways too, probably not as far as crossfire, but usually outdoes the video which is your range anyway.

[@RCOverKill]

@@trowland9575 I think it pays for itself in the long run, but I hate to use anything except the QX-7 I'm used to, does it feel anything like the QX-7 in your hands?

[@trowland9575]

@@RCOverKill, does take some getting used to. I did tighten down all 4 stick controls as tight as they would go, that helped. You can open up controller and tighten even more (KZbin vid on it). Not quite a Tarannis QX7 though, but I am fully used to it.

[@benjaming9835]

But the dji bottom sma’s are Receive only? And thus should be patch antennas?

[@technoxtreme178]

Sacrilege! If you cover up the JB signature logo, you automatically lose 200 feet of range and all your Betaflight settings revert to stock.

[@delvpf6671]

😮😮🤦‍♂️

[@princesfpvdrones]

What happenstance! That is the same orientation I run on my goggles and I do lot of medium to long range flying.

[@michaellaplante4937]

So my googles have male connectors for the antenna. I bought these antennas and they are also male. Obviously I need antennas with female connectors. Do you know how to fix this issue?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Your problem is SMA vs. RPSMA connector. You bought antennas with the wrong one.

[@LegalFreedom99]

Hello doctor copter ..does it work with the dji fpv drone or only selfmade copters?¿

[@Rip1Outdoors]

What am I doing in here? Trying to find the blue bell!

[@RocketDog73]

They look best with the stubbies on the bottom. Surely looks over performance!

[@pekwalker]

Do you know if these will work with the V2 of the DJI Goggles.

[@meanderingmike7640]

I cant get any range at all with my fpv, im in the US and for some reason i cant even go past 400m without losing signal :/

[@joanmarti]

Hey, do you think it would be better to have two patches on one side and two omnis on the other side?

[@girinevass8559]

how many goggles do you have

[@junioraraujosp]

Is this antenna compatible with analog drones?

[@Trin561]

Does it help w distance. I can only get out a little over 2 miles

[@MegaTinter]

Very presentable video, thank 🙇

[@jtaraskus]

14:49 what about one on top ant other on bottom :) crossmixed :)

[@chrizzfpv]

2021 ---> Analog retro or DJI ? for u ? 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@JFG_01]

Very informative thank you Mr B ! i have just got some true rc stubbys that you mentioned ( yes i do watch all your vids until the very end ) lol 👍 😎

[@7invi]

yes, this AXII video like showing it to all the consumers and tell them trueRC is better in the ending 😂

[@urbankixxfilming3451]

thanks for the info

[@itayes23]

thank you very much !!

[@bowersbc]

I wonder if you could add Sunhans eSunRC 2000mW in between to boost more.

[@wakingdreamfpv]

What's better these or crystal iflight?

[@Loz348]

So what would happen if you got the iflight crystal and put these on the crystal making 4 patch without them sticking out all over the place? would the iflight patch work through these? Anyone got any thoughts on this i have both on order but god knows when they will turn up.