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[@trevorwilliams1436]

The same problem exists with racism, the more it is talked about the more it grows.

[@graciescottsdale]

Exactly.

[@sketchartist1964]

Yes. Not one drop of doubt about it. As I see it, it is really those who prioritize race over everything who are the real racists.

[@armyofthewolves]

Always talking about racism is also probably pretty dang bad for everyone's mental health. Especially the "everything's racist even your chair" way it's talked about now.

[@sketchartist1964]

The problem of racism has been abused by radical leftists who found it a useful tool to attack all of Western civilization. Ultimately it is an attack on Christianity and the Bible since these two are the greatest obstacles to their Godless scheme to overpower the world.

[@AsherWolfson]

"Why are you downcast, O my soul?" Psalms asks that question. The answer? "Put your hope in The Lord." Not "talk about your feelings," or "see a therapist"... just focus outward and look up.

[@mercedesimler9325]

💙 Amen 🙏

[@user-it3lx1mi9m]

Nailed it

[@Fibonaccisghost]

Our grandparents' generation didn't talk about their problems enough, and our generation talks about our problems way too much.

[@HopelessAutistic]

and the grandparents' stoicism of silently not addressing the problems is the reason why we are in a mess. Again where is the nuance because this isn't a black or white problem They don't call the "Silent Generation" for nothing!

[@trevorwilliams1436]

Instead of talking about the problems talk about the solutions and do it.

[@ljprep6250]

@@trevorwilliams1436 Right, figure out the problem, then ACTIVELY work on the solution.

[@trevorwilliams1436]

Absolutely, you got it.

[@rockymntdan1]

Our grandparents were busy LIVING and moving FORWARD.

[@lynnmacleod5005]

The only problems I have are government. Our current governments are abusive.

[@mustang607]

Politics can be rather abusive. That's why we don't want it in our schools, our churches, our banking, our health, our trade, etc.

[@Fibonaccisghost]

You have very little control over that unfortunately. You'd be better off focusing on things you can change in your life.

[@lynnmacleod5005]

@@mustang607 and yet it is in every one of these institutions.

[@lynnmacleod5005]

@@Fibonaccisghost I told you,,,,I have no other problems.

[@ButBigger42]

Same.

[@KJ-jq9pq]

I have noticed that young people today actually seek out and revere any sort of mental illness, no matter how slight, and wear it like a badge of honour. They can't tell you what a river is, but they can list off psychiatric drugs and their uses like the days of the week.

[@Treblaine]

They believe in "to each according to their need, from each according to their ability" they know how this "hidden disability" maximizes their need while minimizing their ability.

[@o9brian]

They can’t tell you what a woman is either

[@Daniel-yf9iy]

Counting your blessings is also healthy…

[@alfonsecoppola5938]

glass half full

[@THX1138JJT]

That is actually demonstrably true. Yet so few to see the converse.

[@chesterlestrange7725]

Yup. Having gratitude is so important.

[@tonymcconn1879]

Society is in short supply of gratitude. Also, humility.

[@katr4847]

😊 totally agree. Count our blessings

[@Zebra66]

I wasted two years with talk therapists and thousands of dollars to figure that out. It just clicked one day as I was leaving a session... that every second I spent talking about my feelings was a waste of precious life and didn't help at all. In fact... it made me feel worse. What helped was the opposite. Learning to control my thoughts and focus on something positive. That's why prayer is so beneficial. It's like meditating on everything you are grateful for.

[@vids9190]

Sounds like therapy worked lol

[@aquamanvonfloozerhoffen5067]

This is a realization many people arrive at.

[@Zebra66]

@aquamanvonfloozerhoffen5067 it's a predatory industry that will take advantage of you as long as you allow it. "Treatment" never ends until you say no.

[@TheVCRTimeMachine]

You had the wrong therapist. Talking to the right therapist will teach you to learn how to control your thoughts and change your perspective. It took me two months of therapy to fix the way I thought and reacted to things in my life and things I could not control and from then on I was fine.

[@humanitiestheproblem]

​@@TheVCRTimeMachine maybe if they build a Time Machine they can go back and get a better one 😂

[@hugh-johnfleming289]

I am older and retired and I can't NOT speak to this enough. My world got very small really fast, retired due to an illness. Before that I was in a simplification mission. Less travel, fewer hours, DELIGATE... Then I wound up in the hospital for a good part of two years. Get out and move and depression goes away... And plant flowers, everywhere you can.

[@sportysbusiness]

Rather than flowers, get a cat or a dog. There is nothing better than petting a purring cat or getting a welcome home from a dog to cure the blues.

[@josephsimontacchi2285]

Both great and real answers. Have to Do something, Volunteer, Work Part time. In prior generations people had families to help, get together with etc That concept has been negated due to increased divorces.

[@TheMoodyLoners]

Everyone knew this 50 years ago; that there are few things smaller, more whiney and insufferable than the "self."

[@user-ij6mf2hp3r]

I was born in 1959. I must be a dinosaur. I can't remember if anyone told me to shut up, stop complaining but, at about ten yrs old, I must have started being more like my Dad and older brother. If you admire your family, you probably will act like them.

[@reginaford8575]

Correct! This is found in 2 Timothy chapter 3!!! A merry heart doeth good like medicine

[@Undomaranel]

​@@user-ij6mf2hp3r It's a bit difficult to admire your family when they're the ones that used and abused you. If you had a family that didn't steal your innocence as a child and cover for it, count yourself lucky... and that's barely cracking the surface. The worst part is that I'm a millenial, and more than half of us as kids in the 90s/00s were from broken homes. These days it's more common than not to have divorced parents or be in a blended family. That trauma does terrible things to children growing up... and that is the vast majority of adults and kids in America right now.

[@greyfox6665]

@@UndomaranelForgive, move on from all that. ITS CALLED GROWING UP!

[@Undomaranel]

@@greyfox6665 Lol. All I did in that comment was describe that one facet of my life, yet here you are lambasting me like I'm too lazy to unpeel my own bananas. You need to mature fam. Adults can mention what hurts them without being juvenile about it.

[@darylehayward5155]

I'm a Baby Boomer and as such I had WW2 Great Generation parents. I quote, you want something to cry about! I'll give you something to cry about!

[@user-ij6mf2hp3r]

Me too. Being 64 yrs old, I don't know any other thing besides plow forward.

[@scottjohnson921]

My dad told this to us kids nearly every week of my life when I was young. LOVE IT!!!

[@manderson4803]

This always confused me as a child. I thought...Mom I'm already crying. I didn't really get it until I became a mom.

[@SamT304]

Same here. It makes me sick to hear the whiners crying

[@gunsandpoker7432]

I 100% concur with what she is saying here.

[@bullshark3771]

This is why I don’t like therapy and think people over emphasize its importance. They act as if everyone should be in it because they have problems. Guess what some you need to work on but others you need to move past.

[@ConsulYeti]

I think the moving past is the final stage of working on. It's just as tempting to ignore past trauma as it is to wallow in it. And just as unhelpful.

[@leahcimwerdna5209]

All therapists go to therapy

[@Kojwills]

Agreed. Never understood why people would choose to wallow in their problems. It’s not healthy to feel sorry for yourself.

[@travisjazzbo3490]

Person A and Person B have exactly the same life. Person A is happy and content and Person B is miserable. The difference is with each difficult event that happened that was in each of the person's life, they each made that 'mean' something different. One chose to learn and accept and move forward and the other chose to be a victim. Therapy 101 Now... give me just 1/2 of what you would give a therapist that will arrive at exactly what I just said, and you can thank me for changing your life and outlook.

[@lesliepage3886]

Sometimes we need an outside person to help us figure out how to communicate better and figure out how to grow. For me, I learned to cope with my son’s disabilities and then moved on from therapy.

[@alwayswatchingforlordjesus7119]

As a hypochondriac, I agree . The more I worry , the worse I get

[@greyfox6665]

And social media is a cog in that wheel.

[@thomasknapp6403]

This is why I ran from A.A. and all that nonsense. I was so depressed in these foolish meetings. Now that I am living life and am productive I am waaay better.

[@The77surfer]

AA and all their offshoots are about dependency. First thing I'm a alcoholic or drug addict helpless over my addiction. What a load of crap !!!!

[@TrekBeatTK]

Yeah they might be beneficial in the short term when someone is newly sober, but I have always found something suspicious about people who are perpetually “in recovery” but never recover.

[@MaxSteele-bs7mk]

She is CORRECT. I am currently struggling with stress and anxiety, have been for decades, but I'm now seeing the importance of NOT having idle hands and getting outside doing things, mostly errands like she said.

[@Bluemoonfarm17]

I don’t have time to think about my problems. I’m too busy trying to solve them.

[@Badkitty24]

We're coddling these kids far too much. We're not disciplining them anymore. We're allowing soft feelings to ruin them. This is just an example of how having hard times in your\our generation younger years (i grew up in the 80s\90s) really did harden us better to survive in this world. These kids are being groomed to REQUIRE dependence on the government for everything. Exactly what they want. Easy sheep to lead and control. Strong People create easy times. Easy time creates weak people. Weak people create hard times. (where we're at now) Hard times create strong people.

[@HopelessAutistic]

"coddling" like how Gen X parents make their offsprings like it's their property of NOT making reflections, but mere extensions of themselves? Kids lacking autonomy leading to the "failure to launch"? This whole "not disciplining them anymore". I can speak with some certainty Gen X doesn't tolerate much and they are aggressively disciplining them for being children! Your copy and pasted poem is clearly over generalizing a specific problem that older generations kept kicking the can down the road.

[@springerworks002]

Kids born in the 80s/90s are soft people pretending to be hard.

[@HopelessAutistic]

And maybe it’s because the older generations continue to gaslight these people as if they’re kids or something crazy like that?

[@Macismad]

There is a very simple principle here. Morgan Freed man put it one way in that now famous interview when he said, “if you want to end racism, stop takling about it!” Put another way “if you don’t like what you see in your world, change your mind.” The point is to proactively say and do something that is not what you are not happy about

[@springerworks002]

Changing my mind doesn't stop the government from stealing from my income.

[@scottlewis2372]

In July 1970, the band Funkadelic released an album called, "Free Your Mind...and Your Ass Will Follow".

[@AsocPaladin0016]

I got into a cycle back in September where I absolutely hated my job because every day, all I thought about was how much I hated my job. After I stopped looking for a new job and took a step back for perspective I realized how good of a spot I am in now.

[@ericanderson6395]

Jamie, pull up that video of the bear that hunts when it's hungry instead of being depressed and thinking how am I going to eat?

[@JC-ok4yx]

"A lot of therapists just indulge it." Yes. Absolutely.

[@avlifesavers]

It's just narcissism. Good luck undoing that from young people.

[@PaulC001]

i grew up having to deal with adversity. we were poor, so poor there was a large stretch of time where i had one mismatched pair of socks i washed everyday along with one of the two shirts i owned. one of the things that devastated me the most during that time was a note from a math teacher in 7th grade given to me after class was over saying "i like your new pants." i almost left school because of that, i didn't want people to acknowledge my horrible situation. after finding ways to isolate myself from others and deal with my situation i joined the military. because i lived that quiet, don't stand out, figure out how to do things on my own "leaders" didn't notice me though i did my job very well. i was overlooked, and forgotten about except in paperwork saying i was there. there was one time before the first gulf war they forgot me out in the middle of the mojavi desert in temperatures that hit record highs for 3 days. no extra food or water i followed my last orders to guard six empty shoulder fired missile boxes. on the third day's morning before i was found by accident, i gave myself an IV. i was a "combat lifesaver" and had all the things in my bag to do it for someone else. when i got back no one said anything about what happened to me. they all acted like it was business as usual hiding their near fatal mistake. i've talked about what i've been through here, but i've never bothered to talk to others in person about these things or the many others. btw, i'm not depressed or thinking of deletion. the one time i saw a mental health representative she didn't have the training to deal with someone like myself. for now, i just live... like i always have.

[@janicemckay7124]

She is absolutely correct, sitting around feeling sorry for yourself just is not healthy. We all have problems, we all have bouts of depression, we are all human, and things happen in life. It is how we deal with these issues that define us. Yes there are some people who have had a very traumatic experience, and yes those people might need some help, but like she said, a good therapist will encourage you to not need them anymore. There are some professionals who encourage constant sessions, and those are the ones who are not helping their patients at all.

[@user-ij6mf2hp3r]

My daughter to a tee.

[@justinvanburen8259]

It makes sense 100%!!!

[@AriPicard]

I'm in a war torn country and had been falling into a deep depression. I then caught myself, forced myself to do simple things (listening to music, self care, cleaning up etc). Even drawing things I'm not happy with, I keep going. We need to step out of the poltergeist that is depression by force in order to be able to practice living till it becomes second nature.

[@TrekBeatTK]

This is literally how I have always felt. It’s why I hate crying. It just makes you feel worse because you stew in your bad feelings. Ignoring them is the only way to get on with life. This isn’t “toxic masculinity”.

[@Songbird4ever]

I’m a huge fan of ‘you reap what you sew’, ‘we tend to project our own faults onto others (we recognize it because we are it)’, ‘most change is good’, and, ‘all aspirin is alike’😅

[@timothyjones5959]

As a male therapist of 40+ years my response is,”duh”. (She’s spot on.)

[@TheGuerillapatriot]

thanks for posting, Dave.

[@MsCurliegirlie]

TRUTH! I see this all the time as a nurse in a very large high school! It’s so sad and pathological!

[@Finderoflostthings08]

I think you nailed it Dave. It's all part of the agenda.

[@KayRay424]

Have you seen the ads for drugs to treat mental illness…airwaves saturated with them. Everyone neurotic.

[@omri1058]

needed to hear this on depression. help remind me to keep fighting

[@jamesbull890]

There's a lovely scene in the Crocodile Dundee film where she's saying about a woman who's in therapy and he basically asks if she's not got any mates. After he says that you tell your problems to one guy he tells everyone else so everyone knows so it's not a problem for just you anymore.

[@susanroberts3813]

Lack of thankfulness 😊

[@skroowi8105]

As a former alcoholic, there's a lot of truth to what she's saying.

[@RMoore-zt7zs]

You are correct, Dave...

[@J4sse]

We're so screwed.

[@garypowell4866]

Nailed it !

[@ElizabethLiverton]

Brilliant 👍

[@maine-lygamingtips2039]

Life is so easy today...people make up problems where there are none.

[@missparker855]

"..they just indulge it" - So true

[@edgreenberg7912]

So very true. There's a direct correlation between obsessive thinking about your problems and depression. Obsessing, by definition, is not productive. It can only make things worse.

[@marymansfield6900]

Where your focus goes is where energy flows. It's such a simple concept that most people just don't seem to get.

[@jwwildman61]

My Mom said, "Jeff, there have been so many things that have happened to you over the years and you're always smiling and laughing. I don't get it." I said, "Ya gotta do, what ya gotta do."

[@carolflaherty5294]

Count your blessings, be gratefull and know if you put your energy to helping others, you can actually forget about your problems or realize it could always be worse. I told all my kids this.

[@workingstiffdiogenes2195]

The famous hero's journey is an example of this. The hero grows from mild to powerful while doing stuff, going places, hanging off of cliffs and slaying the dragon. He doesn't just sit around writing about himself in his journal.

[@scottjohnson921]

LOVE This!!!

[@eugenejoseph7076]

I have to tell you that I always chuckle a bit when I hear recent news flash saying , "new study finds exercise is good for your health" 30 years ago I knew of a psycho therapist who dealt with clients struggling with depression by doing their sessions during a walk. Success rate for clients moving out of depression was incredible. There is nothing new under the sun.

[@55Reever]

I know a family where the children didn't grow up in the best circumstances and while in their childhoods, they thought about the problems that existed in that time. Now, as adults in their eighties, they still dwell on the circumstances of their childhoods and it's like they live in a constant state of reliving their childhoods. Living into being adults their lives improved greatly, but they still dwell on the childhood years that are relatively few compared to their total ages.

[@Mark-uq9km]

She makes so much sense it's scary.

[@christinadacruz420]

Wow! So true

[@Bullzeye1000yds]

It is NOT just the youth!

[@SalvableRuin]

I've been saying that for a long time. Therapy normally doesn't purge your problems; it makes you dwell on them and defines you by them. That is not how you move forward.

[@Ilovedogsmorethanpeople]

I needed to that! Thank you! ❤

[@Cadence733]

Some wisdom someone said to me 'no one can force you to feel anything, it's your choice.' That was a light bulb moment for me. People do/say bad things to you but ultimately you have to take responsibility for how you're going to live your life in response to it.

[@untilvalhalla7854]

Absolutely!!! The story of Pandora’s box is meant to teach. Don’t open the damn box!

[@autex2609]

It's so incredibly true. It's wild that something as simple as "keeping busy" is a huge part of being content and happy. Sitting around dreaming up problems IS the problem a lot of the time.

[@simonoregan4744]

Hypnotists have known this for years. Rumination just affirms and strengthens the specific neural pathways that just re enforce those very patterns of thinking and feeling. Ruminate on what you want and how you want to be. Not what you dont want

[@3rdpig]

Write your problems down as a check list. Then, one at a time, fix them and check them off the list. Feels good, man.

[@JaxTellerRC]

Gaming is actually a fantastic escape

[@soundhaus6404]

I was depressed for a long time and didn’t know it until thru good friendships I discovered playing music and I’m in a totally different head space because my focus now is learning music everyday ! Just please try to find something you enjoy and put focus on that . If it gives you joy do that !

[@TheVCRTimeMachine]

Wait, when did she say the problem was having kids focus on "their truth?" She said the problem was sitting around thinking about your problems all the time and not being active and present.

[@speedmom1702]

Amen!

[@idgaffritp]

I've always known that "therapy" is a bunch of crap. Now I have confirmation why, and it makes complete sense.

[@priley817]

Wow ground breaking, taking action to solve your problems instead of wallowing in your problems and not doing anything is good for you. Who would’ve known, that book really is going to change the world.

[@tottiemitchell6737]

Totally agree

[@danrandall794]

I have a close family member with some issues so I am not immune to what happens. With that said I have told people for decades when you think you have problems or a bad day just tour a children's hospital and our problems don't seem so bad.

[@bubbapatriot3280]

As a psychotherapist I see numerous people who think they have a mental disorder (ADD, ADHD, Depression, Anxiety, Bipolar, you name it) and doctors are quick to make that diagnosis. Then doctors (not all) will through medication at it or these people will continuously see a therapist or get an emotional support animal. Then identify themselves as having one and excuse their behavior because of it. Wherein reality most are experiencing, as Freud once said, the normal miseries of life.

[@kni9ght]

What you resists persists, I’ve stop therapy and only talk to a few people about my problems, most people don’t care and I can live with that and got to stop ruminating on my life with focusing on illuminating it

[@RitzCaraldo]

Me and a friend were having a hard time and we were talking about it on a regular basis between the two of us. One day I said hey should we just drop this and not be depressed anymore? No we talk all the time about how awesome are lives are and all the things were getting done

[@guyfanno1]

Beef is a plant based diet. Cows eat grass and convert it to beef.

[@johnw3952]

The reason it works is that if we do things, anything, something, we get outside of our own head. That is one of the biggest keys. If nothing else, go for walks, plant and tend a garden, have a poker night or game night with friends once a week, volunteer and your local church, community kitchen, or homeless shelter. Take up something new like hiking or bicycling. There are new places you can explore if you like to travel. Join a book club or kayaking group or bird watching. Volunteer at the zoo, the list goes on and on. There are so many things you can do to have a richer life OUTSIDE OF YOURSELF, OUTSIDE YOUR OWN HEAD. It works, thinking about others and helping them does wonders for your spirit.

[@fobbitoperator3620]

The point made in this video, is 100% absolutely correct. Constantly thinking about that which hirts you, or causes you pain, exacerbates your inmer pain. I should know, I did this very thing most of my life. "Stink'n think'n" makes more stink!

[@washedbytheblood]

As a man thinks in his heart, so he is

[@jamesdolan9702]

Exactly.

[@KatakuriUchiha22]

So Andew Tate is literally right.

[@boethius9173]

True!

[@triciatheknittinglady]

What she says makes sense. Thanks for sharing!

[@madelainepetrin1430]

It's true for drug addicts too. When in recovery, it's better never to ask them about their addiction. They need to not think about drugs. Parents are always asking them when they stopped, if they need it, and if they think they'll use again, etc.

[@user-sb5fj8xt7d]

🤔😪....."I'm from the government, and I'm here to help," ........RUN FOR YOUR LIFE AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!!!!!

[@louannec6076]

Wow. So true even in my life. The more I talk and think about my battles in life the more I lose the war. I’m going outside and rake some leaves.

[@The77surfer]

Sounds exactly why I stopped wanting to be a pharmacist. Sure I would've been rich with materialistic garbage of this world, with a HUGE HOLE in my soul.....No Thank You.

[@CB-vt3mx]

we used to correctly call people who obsess about themselves 'crybabies".

[@paulparoma]

She is very good at stating the obvious.

[@TedNosey]

So true!! get a dog or 2 and walk, get out of the house and off social media!

[@taristazin2073]

This applies to adults as well.

[@rolandnelson6722]

They are not therapists. They are voyeurs. You pay to entertain them.

[@evalramman7502]

She's right.

[@alpine1600s]

"Oh, Bobby is suffering from low esteem." 🚨 ESTEEM is GIVEN. It is not an entitlement or a status marker.🚨

[@clogs4956]

I read up on ACT - Acceptance and Commitment Therapy - a few years ago. The author explained that ACT is like changing the points on a circular train track so the traveller can get free of the loop of rumination, as opposed to CBT, which is a never-ending trap.

[@SplatterPatternExpert]

I don’t think I have depression but mornings can be rough. As soon as I accomplish some little thing I start feeling better.

[@ConsulYeti]

This is very interesting. I think identifying problems and working out a solution (perhaps in a somewhat "obsessed" way) might lead to actually solving the problem. But when the problem is unsolvable or nothing can be done about it, dwelling on it gets to nowhere but lamenting.

[@MrMinuteman69]

My ex wife couldn't ever stop worrying about her problems. She refused to stop arguing over the same issues. Even when they no longer existed. Or there was nothing in the present that would alter the past. She divorced me and remarried but still let's the past invade her life. That has caused problems with her new marriage just as it did with ours. She constantly brings up every bad thing done to her in her eyes and argues over them. She has been seeing a therapist for years now but still cannot let things go. It has taken a toll on her health and her relationship with our children. I myself haven't spoken a word to her in 14 years. But she still complains about me to her present husband and hers and my kids.

[@HopelessAutistic]

annndd you're complaining about her! Two wrongs do not make it a right!

[@MrMinuteman69]

Not complaining just saying I know how people can worry themselves into unhappiness. I spent 28 years with her. Her constant worrying is what made her an unhappy person. She even has a strained relationship with her own children. If she could just let things go and not worry she can be a nice gal.

[@davidneidel436]

She should also talk about why we can never forgive ourselves for our past transgressions and then take the next step, forget about it. When we do that, we can truly improve the quality of our lives. We never let go of our past and never are able to progress in our lives.

[@stevesummers1354]

Genius

[@Terran.Marine.2]

44 secs of gold.

[@darthdabs2401]

So true

[@organicinohio5398]

How true it is!

[@jeanwild8724]

Kids need to feel needed, wanted and useful. They need chores to do, hobbies to do and talk about. And they need interaction with adults whether they want it or not. There's no time to dwell on wether you're a boy or girl, if you are fully involved in family life.