This wasn't even close in my view. Kwan was literally textbook flawless, while Irina's skate had glaring problems. They really wanted a new leader I think, but had to give it to Kwan again bc of how perfect she skated.
@alexeydymov56029 ай бұрын
Кван самая скучная фигуристка в истории
@carlochapelle93314 ай бұрын
@@alexeydymov5602Slutskaya is the sloppiest skater. All she does is jump.
@alexeydymov56024 ай бұрын
@@carlochapelle9331 ага, а Бильман кто делал?
@carlochapelle93314 ай бұрын
@@alexeydymov5602so what? Kwan had better spirals and she’s got the complete package. Skutskaya is a “one trick pony”.
@alexeydymov56024 ай бұрын
@@carlochapelle9331Кван не сделала ни одного каскада 3 3. Катание везде одинаковое. Ноль эмоций
@mattg.8129 жыл бұрын
The entrances to almost all the triples are telegraphed to death.
@sfhayesvalley9 жыл бұрын
+Matt G. LIke the Paul Revere of jumpers.
@mariuslives82502 жыл бұрын
Love how she just quietly stormed away at the end. I think this was a good performance for its time, but not enough to over take Kwan.
@jimmyseraphin73148 жыл бұрын
all the judges should have had kwan in front of her...
@jjh24566 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Seraphin 7 of the 9 did.
@lancewilkinson41923 жыл бұрын
@@jjh2456 Two were missing.
@jjh24563 жыл бұрын
@@lancewilkinson4192 doesn’t matter. 7 of 9 gave Kwan the victory. It actually wasn’t close. Kwan won by a large margin here.
@lancewilkinson41923 жыл бұрын
@@jjh2456 I agree with you. But my point was that the other two had to have been insane to NOT give Kwan 1st place. And what I love about youtube is that you can go back and see all their dirty biases.
@jjh24563 жыл бұрын
@@lancewilkinson4192 it was obvious during this point in her career there was a sort of bias against Kwan. I know in 2000 and 2001 they didn’t want Kwan to win, but it was obvious that she was the best on the night that they really couldn’t deny her.
@kimpillow8406 жыл бұрын
Sorry, Irina...not even close.
@seanphillips95233 жыл бұрын
They would absolutely call her for underrotation and traveling on her combo spins today...
@sezwho7474 жыл бұрын
One of the most over-scored skaters of all time. A very sloppy program in both jumps and artistry. In her defense, I don't think the choices made in regards to her music, choreography, etc. did her justice. Her jumps are high, but are telegraphed and not great flow coming out most of the time. To me, she is a great spinner and her overall demeanor is enchanting. Her 2006 Olympic short program shows when given proper conditions, how good she is. But, in this instance, the judging was overly generous.
@e2theeyepie2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think if Irina had a better vehicle that more effectively played to her strengths and hid her choreographic weaknesses (like the spiral sequence, yeesh), she could've won this more convincingly. A long program version of her well-done "Culture" or "Totentanz" might've done the job, I think.
@kimleung2901 Жыл бұрын
She was one of the most gifted skaters in terms of raw talent but never fully developed it. If she invested more effort into improving her artistry and choreography and stopped telegraphing her jumps she could’ve been even better.
@acuison110 жыл бұрын
If she competed in this new scoring system, all her jumps would have been marked down. They're all under rotated.
@Seresu110 жыл бұрын
Just those two triple loops. Michelle would have ended up with a lot more underrotated jumps.
@ZRSchultz10 жыл бұрын
She also would have gotten no credit for that second three jump combination.
@erivera49287 жыл бұрын
michelle rarely underrotated jumps...she may have gotten a call on the lutz edge but she always rotated her jumps.
@TT-ee4qp2 жыл бұрын
@@Seresu1 Tara Lipinski would have ended up with the most underrotated jumps.
@gyufrtsgftrs436jjg Жыл бұрын
@@Seresu1Michelle extremely consistently fully rotated her jumps. Either she was on and they were fantastic, or she was off and it would be very obvious. She didn't cheat jumps
@erivera49285 жыл бұрын
Wow I never realized her Sal combo was very under on the loop. The boot landed forward. Wasn’t even close
@lkfrostad6 жыл бұрын
I love Irina but it was just sloppy.
@sezwho7479 жыл бұрын
I always found her to be a better spinner than jumper. She telegraphs her jumps and while they have great height, they dont have a nice run out. But, she is very likeable and skates with a lot of heart.
@hannibaljustincase99854 жыл бұрын
only remarkable thing about her jumps was the height. it's so weird to think that entire world has the image of Irina being incredibly athletic jumper, while Michelle being the more artistic performer while Irina never had any consistency with her 3-3s, and even while doing 3Lz or 3F, those jumps were too big for her to control the landings. What also bothers me how she insisted on doing -3Lo combos even though she was doubling like 90% of them
@onetwocue4 жыл бұрын
She traveled a lot on the ice on her spins. Not so great.
@TT-ee4qp2 жыл бұрын
I can see Irina skated with her heart, just like Michelle. That's why I like Irina.
@TT-ee4qp2 жыл бұрын
I do love Michelle. I also like Irina. Michelle and Irina were the greatest skaters in their era.
@peightonstorm10533 жыл бұрын
She skates like a truck driver compared to Michelle Kwan
@tyboogie19824 ай бұрын
Not a truck driver 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
@nipaipo361006 жыл бұрын
First lutz weak landing. Triple loop underorated on the 1st combo. Triple loop on 2 feet on the 2nd combo. The 2nd lutz is in the 1st part.even if she had big high on her jumps, good edge on the lutz and big courage this programm was not a success...and artisticly there was no comparison with kwan. Michele was far away better.... 5.7 and 5.7. Kwan 5.8 and 5.9. I would have put butyrskaya in front of slutskaya on the free
@troy05159 жыл бұрын
lots of energy and power, but she should have hired someone to choreograph her program
@EEDiazL9 жыл бұрын
+troy0515 You mean, hired someone to choreograph all of her programs! It was the same issue with Maria Butyrskaya! That is why none of their programs except one here and there, ever seemed well constructed and most of times were all disjointed. Now, if you look carefully and on slow-mo, both of her 3loops were under rotated, hence classified only as 2Loops. Weirdly enough, the broadcaster don't seem to catch this after the slow motion replay.
@carrietremble9 жыл бұрын
+Incredible Mann Underrotation of jumps was not considered pre IJS.
@mattg.8129 жыл бұрын
+Incredible Mann re: never getting called out by judges for under-rotation ...She got a pass because of who she was.
@vistaprime7 жыл бұрын
Russian women in general have bad choreography and it's still the same today. strange since pairs and ice dancers from that country are amazing and even the men. the women don't pay attention to lines, pacing, edge work, proper posture and positions. There skating is a hot mess and this is the country with a tradition of ballet. I just don't get it.
@hannibaljustincase99854 жыл бұрын
@@vistaprime Nowadays with Eteri's students having bad programs/not paying attention to edges, posture etc. we can 'justify' it by the fact that her skaters are leading, those programs work because all of her skaters are constantly medaling and receiving high pcs. however, with Slutskaya and Butyrskaya it never worked that way, they were always behind chasing Michelle, Sasha, Shizuka. And that's ridiculous to me why no one pushed Slutskaya to develop artistically, or work on consistency with her 3-3.
@snopesshop19034 жыл бұрын
How does that mess merit 5.9s ?
@hannibaljustincase99854 жыл бұрын
corruption
@theprinceoftides6836 Жыл бұрын
@@hannibaljustincase9985 BINGO.
@tyboogie19829 жыл бұрын
Her presentation didn't give her the title.
@Gemini5304 жыл бұрын
Technically mor difficult but sloppy and just unrefined compared to Kwan’s. I’ll give Irina a little more credit than Kwan for the technical part even with the shaky and sloppy landings, just because her combos are more difficult than Kwan’s, even though Kwan’s GOE easily makes up for it. But then Irina’s presentation is way behind Kwan’s. So overall, Kwan still wins.
@gyufrtsgftrs436jjg Жыл бұрын
I always liked her spunk.......... and you may hate me for this.......but.... Knowing what we know now regarding Russia and doping - anyone else question her Vasculitis and heart issues in 2004? Reports were she almost died, then in 2005 she returns stronger than ever and is undefeated all season? Hate that I'm even thinking this, but given Russia's history it wouldn't suprise me.
@revaew137911 ай бұрын
I believe she was on meldonium in 2005/2006
@TravelingMan636 жыл бұрын
She executed 2 different 3 jumps combo’s which the ISU rules state only 1 3 jump combo is allowed in the free skate.
@vasiliykosolapov27403 ай бұрын
Красивая,, смелая, талантливая фигуристка!
@TravelingMan635 жыл бұрын
What a telegraphed flip jump
@nursejacen Жыл бұрын
Michelle connected with her music way better than Irina! You can slap any music onto any of Irina's program and it would look all the same. Look at all the different elements (spread eagle, Charlotte, reverse camel spin, differing layback positions, forward and backward spirals, etc...) Kwan has incorporated into her programs through out the years in addition to the required jumps.
@brynneholt19908 ай бұрын
I don’t know why anyone would choose Don Quixote for a figure skating competition program. It’s purposefully inelegant. I don’t know what the commentator was smoking saying after Michelle’s skate that Irina had the edge in presentation.
@TT-ee4qp3 ай бұрын
What you said is about Tara Lipinski..........😅😅😅 Tara Lipinski had no artistry more than Peter Pan in the Neverland. Tara's LP and SP had no different, Tara had the only one style.
@michaeldruck7060 Жыл бұрын
5.9 really?
@surge2k711 жыл бұрын
Look at that face! She's my favourite Russian skater
@jjh24569 жыл бұрын
If she had not attempted that 2nd 3-3 she would have won it. A 3lutz-2toe would have been fine with a solo 3loop preceded by the 3 turns would have done it.
Irina Slutskaya was cute and nice. Her technique was much better than Sarah Hughes and Sasha Cohen. I also like her program. ❤❤❤
@thomstephens11 жыл бұрын
great performance, great competitor and accurately scored.
@latinprince62211 ай бұрын
It was the right call!! It was sloppy …
@СергейРодионов-д6п Жыл бұрын
Чемпионка
@victorspanbauer77102 жыл бұрын
9 an ok
@mm-xk5wi Жыл бұрын
She has better artistry here than 2002 olympics.
@psylockheart10 жыл бұрын
As much as I loved Michelle's 2001 Worlds program, I wished Irina had won this year. Her footwork, spins and jump combinations were definitely more difficult although she underrotated and doubled footed her triple loops and the lutz landing was rather not beautiful. But overall her program had more content although Kwan's was more polished and IMO more memorable but still I wished they rewarded Irina the Gold this year.
@jjh245610 жыл бұрын
But Kwan was cleaner. It was the polish that Kwan had that was lacking in this performance.
@zurieljoshua10 жыл бұрын
Oh please. She has no basic skating skills, like Surya Bonaly. Her greatest asset was how beautifully high her jumps were. But there is no choreography here, no connection to the music and no beautiful positions. If you call this "polish" than so is a heard of angry elephants in a finely appointed dining room.
@magnificent766710 жыл бұрын
You only get credit for what you complete
@barkingtree8810 жыл бұрын
she was lucky to get silver ahead of Hughes and Butyrskaya.
@magnificent766710 жыл бұрын
barkingtree88 Except you are wrong and clearly didn't watch