Joe Rogan - Shirley Manson on How Spending £100,000 on Drugs Changed Her Career

Shirley Manson on How Spending £100,000 on Speed and Ecstacy Changed Her Career.
Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #953.

[@ivanmay7890]

Shirley Manson is a very awesome singer, and I'm glad Garbage still has a fanbase and still tours and records to this day.

[@westlisbon6307]

I graduated high school in 1993. The music of the 90s was amazing, as was life. If I could go back in time. I didn't appreciate the 90s like I should have.

[@jd2473]

Always liked her, smart, attractive and down to earth

[@IceWarm]

Agreed, met her in 2017 at a book signing. A total joy to talk to even if it was just for a few minutes. Rest of the band was there too and they were just as nice.

[@lfdvidinc]

What’s smart about poisoning yourself? Than they lock up the dealers and the addicted still doesn’t stop, what’s smart about being surrounded by people whacked out because they can’t deal with life normally, I’ve never done drugs and I bust my ass while people who don’t work hard in the physical sense make millions

[@Manuelabor1978]

Hot

[@mjp96]

Too feminist. Great voice though.

[@ghw7192]

75 and still a fan!

[@DarrenVanDam]

I had tickets to see Garbage in New Orleans 15 years ago and couldn't go. During "Only Happy When it Rains" it started pouring rain at an outside venue and the band finished the set. I missed it and have friends that still talk about it.

[@ehLeanne311]

They probably just trolling you 😂😂😂

[@frankcastle5294]

A good friend of mine lives in Edinburgh area and sees Shirley around the city quite often. Says she's a lovely girl and highly regarded in Scotland.

[@christopheredig1884]

Yep says how shithole...

[@frankcastle5294]

@@christopheredig1884 What?

[@mjp96]

@@christopheredig1884 Is this a sentence, statement, question, phrase, or what.

[@christopheredig1884]

@@mjp96 next time I'll put little drawings so you can maybe understand

[@Supersonic8984]

Edinburgh is massive, but your friend sees her around often? She mostly lives in LA.

[@Jadae]

Shirley Manson is like the Queen of Portland, and she probably doesn't even know it. On the first day of rain in autumn, 'Only Happy When It Rains' is ALWAYS played on Portland radio stations. So the first day for... what we're mostly know for... and she sings the anthem for it, lol.

[@thataintnomoonsucka]

Funny. Jump to Portlandia clip!

[@Jackie_Tikki_Tavi]

That's sweet. When this person from, originally, across the world is playing a cultural part of an entire city, but in a very humble way...it's just really sweet

[@jackjohnson7396]

That's a insult to her!

[@allanjim3]

I’m writing from the year 2020 ... get out of Portland. (pay no attention to my time stamp)

[@hykowolf4591]

FUCK Portland. What a dump.

[@thomaslombardo3401]

Love Shirley Manson !

[@kennyloggins465]

Shirley is incredible

[@drawnbydark4051]

I remember some one telling me the song 'Push It' was about speed. Don't know if that's true, but I love that song.

[@treytopdogellis5023]

That's $155,609 in 1995, damn.

[@jaysparrow6631]

Shirley has been on Craig Ferguson’s late late show a few times and have to say she’s a proper laugh! 😅😂

[@S7EVE_P]

I would fucking love to have "partied" with Shirley Manson back then....still would!

[@eddiebrandenburg6546]

Dig Joe warring a Thomas Hitman Hearns shirt, being from Detroit and friends with Tommy its good to see people still know Tommy was a bad ass fighter/Boxer.

[@craigsips8677]

Speed is cheap... that's a lot of speed!

[@seanahmed9079]

"I mean, it wasn't all on speed..." LOL

[@pragmatic1ultramagnetic202]

That was fucking hilarious. I replayed it loads of times.

[@markheywood5626]

That band was Goodbye Mr Mackenze and they did some great songs.

[@vicdmise]

By the time she took lead vocal and got MTV play the band was called Angelfish. That's the band that Butch Vig saw. Coincidentally, I only ever saw their video once on 120 Minutes and I remember it distinctly because when I saw it the first thing I thought was, "Holy Shit: that singer is incredible."

[@markheywood5626]

@@vicdmise She was in Angelfish after Goodbye Mr Mackenze. But yeah Butch probably did see her in Angelfish.

[@502Chevy]

@@markheywood5626 I thought it was Steve Marker that saw her on MTV LATE NIGHT….but I could be wrong. Doesn’t matter, bottom line, we are so lucky to have it happen.

[@artemicionkupo4367]

I.really.like.her!! She has "it." Makes involuntary smile.

[@jimiquackers8275]

I dont like cocaine...I just like the way it smells

[@craigsips8677]

Jimi Quackers speed is not cocaine.

[@larryhoover718]

Jimi Quackers it does have a distinct smell.

[@sheldonscott4037]

Colorado Skibum 11556 5th 53rd

[@jimiquackers8275]

Craig Sips who ever said it was?

[@Mike-hj7gg]

thanks fact-man for that random fact no one asked for..

[@jonny_mazerati9410]

❤️ she is legend

[@HollowDolly]

These singers from Scotland are so beautiful. Lauren Mayberry is like the second coming of Shirley coz she's also Scottish. 😁

[@barryoneill1703]

Great pod cast, I really enjoyed it, Thanks Joe.

[@btetschner]

Thank you for the video.

[@mjp96]

The other night it was raining cats and dogs and I said "I'm only happy when it rains" - the 24-year-old bartender didn't get it. I'm old.

[@kevindavis331]

Wow I love her honesty

[@gratefuldude7828]

I love Shirley Manson!

[@peterdaigle4772]

Absolute goddess! I love everything about her. Very high on the ethics & moral spectrum and all around decent human.

[@ehLeanne311]

This is a fascinating discussion, Shirley is very down to earth and open and honest and JR is very candid anyway so it makes for an interesting reveal

[@delisexy7120]

the love of my life is always one of the smartest women in music business

[@tardigreat9501]

She was just saying money doesn't make you happy, but apparently spending that money on drugs can?

[@tanner3285]

Keli-John Mass Fuck yeah

[@nikko.lottsahcocc6917]

Money itself, don't do shit for ya... GETTING THE MONEY is kind of a Rush.... but spending it on a GOOD TIME is what money is all about... also investing for your future..... but when you are young and you got $$$ you will most likely end up misappropriating some of that money on flashy shit.. and DRUGS.. i've been there.. it's fun as long as you don't go overboard and know you still have more money coming your way than it's all gucci.

[@superdemonboy]

Meh. Perhaps it can make you think you're happy in the moment, but looking back she clearly felt like it was largely a waste.

[@elementzz1504]

No money & drugs don’t make you happy anything external can give you the false illusion of happiness however…

[@warlords1775]

Always loved her.

[@BoilerBloodline]

Badass! Too bad that doesn’t happen to anyone else that “goes off”...lol!

[@crystallinemister]

I remember seeing Angelfish on MTV and being really taken with Shirley Manson. It was really delightful to see her pop up with Garbage shortly thereafter.

[@Hero_Of_Old]

In her prime, she was the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen

[@meghanmurphy5483]

She so amazing she best love her still from age 12 to now 36 I am still a fan of hers. She is getting older but wiser and they are still make cool music these days!!!

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

Where can I watch the full interview?

[@mikethemechanic7395]

Saw Garbage in the early 00s. Right after she chopped her hair. Saw her again last year. Great show.

[@kingcobra3540]

She is beautiful

[@502Chevy]

Shirley in the videos Stupid Girl, Only Happy When it Rains and Queer - it was obvious she was the hottest girl in rock. As in red hair boiling hot!

[@jimmyeischens7947]

She's still fkn fine!!

[@mockthedude]

Powerful TMZ

[@ebutuoymai]

Just come from her other video about how the music industry screws artists over... I really like her point... but then I find out she spends £100,000 on drugs.... hmmmm.

[@matthewensign9683]

yeah and how she glossed over the figure like is meant nothing! It's fucking beyond me...I could make that kind of money last for ten years. Seriously! MAYBE EVEN LONGER. It's not hard. Don't be a hedonist fuckhead. People sure love to make it hard, though.

[@you7uber5]

It was her money. She could have light it on fire. It has no bearing on being screwed over.

[@matthewensign9683]

You're right, Steve. Money doesn't mean anything when it's created out of nothing. In fact, that might be part of the problem. Know what I mean? What's $20 trillion, ya know?? Just numbers...yeah...

[@Mladenac]

It was while she was in Angelfish bend (before Garbage). I concluded that from the context. Completely unrelated to the industry milking the artists.

[@benger88]

She said she and her Angelfish bandmates "together" spent all of that £100,000 record advance on partying. So £25,000 per member. If they stayed in nice hotels, that in itself takes up a good chunk of money, especially if they splurged on room service. In rock & roll terms, what they spent isn't excessive. If she alone was spending that much on drugs, it would show and I doubt she would have been asked to front Garbage or even allowed an audition.

[@yeahnah7220]

Lucky she wasn't in Australia with her penchant for products, it would have been a six figure story!

[@rhondadiaz4605]

Shirley is lovely. An anaxing voice. I. Live her and Garbage.

[@CloudKrazed]

That's insane! Haha at least they had one heck of a ride 😂

[@its_a_bug]

Scottish accent is just 😍

[@Milligan777]

bruh 200k is like 100,000 pills of speed, please tell me she got some coke or something along the way lmao.

[@benwyatt7619]

Yeah but in 1992 when this happened speed was wayyy more expensive. So £100000 would be around 7000 pills of speed which is still insane but I imagine a lot of the money went towards the alcohol and just going out and partying

[@zaftra]

she basically said it was spent on partying.

[@robertmorley4506]

Yeah, I'm thinking there was a reason why she didn't admit buying coke. That's a given back in the day. Speed? They give that stuff away...

[@vinniebarbarino5725]

She loved my Mitsubishi double stacks.

[@TheGreatSnoozer]

sounds like a good night

[@steelcaress]

That other band is Angelfish, I think.

[@Lee-kw6fe]

Originally it was Goodbye Mr McKenzie then angelfish

[@MrAckers75]

Speed and ecstasy loool sounds a great party

[@nickdedmor]

The sheer amount of ignorance of Americans thinking USD is greater than Great British Pounds ahahhah XD

[@davedennison7386]

As a drug user, that 100k on speed n E, in that timeframe is fucking bullshit...mind you i wouldn't mind doing speed n E with shirley...we'd still be knocking boots now...

[@robertmorley4506]

She's not mentioning coke, and I don't blame her for that. At that time and spending all that $$? Let's face reality.

[@rambo-ram-0]

how is that possible speed is so fucking cheap and ecstasy isnt really expensive too

[@samuelwoods164]

Pesare Irani ex was really expensive in the late 80's early 90's, people used to pay £10-20 in the UK, a lot more than when I could get them between 2005-10 for £2 each or 20 for £20. Not sure about speed, think or cost around £5 a gram in 2005.

[@rambo-ram-0]

well makes more sense then guess the production got way cheaper troughout the years

[@nikko.lottsahcocc6917]

GOOD top shelf ecstasy is fucking expensive..... only the mediocre or bunk ecstasy is cheap.... speed is cheap yeah but you can run through it FAST, especially with 5 people sharing a bag.

[@you7uber5]

speed is not cheap. Its around $100 a gram

[@somenotherdude333]

​@@nikko.lottsahcocc6917 it's mine and I'm not sharing with nobody 😶

[@larrystevens7410]

100,000 pounds on Drugs? That's 119,000 dollars. Holy Shit. That's a lot of money. We're talking the kind of money seniors pay for THEIR drugs. Wow. REALLY puts things into perspective, huh?

[@benwyatt7619]

Actually it’s around $330000 😬. £100000 back then was $160000… now adjust for inflation… this is how much lol. Speed was much more expensive back then though

[@nosegem-health]

I only like a lot the first part 😀

[@allanjim3]

I could blow through £200,000 in a weekend in any major city by myself. Add 5 or 6 band-mates? It’d be gone in the blink of an eye!

[@tonyjuliocappo5459]

Ehhhh idk know about 200k with some partying cocaine maybe some ladies some painkillers Hotel expenses I'd say maybe 30/40 Grand tops $20,000 still buys you quite a bit of drugs for the weeked

[@LILREMAlNS]

@@tonyjuliocappo5459 how many fucking drugs would you be buying😂

[@fieldingm1969]

Shirley and Emily Stone could be mother and daughter.

[@indigo8021]

Garbage were brilliant 👌🏻

[@yanikpicardleduc]

We went totally off hahahaha

[@jimboslice7316]

G

[@MrGusinfla]

She's funny.dirty mind. She rocks

[@dolphin069]

Goodbye Mr McKenzie.

[@jamesellis1401]

Flipping as in flirting with them, then giving them the gluck gluck 3000 in the car??

[@mikekensington1705]

She is hot, cool and talented. Very talented.

[@superdemonboy]

Wow, as her follower on social media, I'm amazed that Shirley still has all her marbles. Also, I wonder if her sobering up throughout the years (I'm assuming) reflects how 'Bleed Like Me' was their last amazing album.

[@MrDaddynomates]

She's only happy when it rains.

[@handcrafted30]

Is she the only Scottish person to be on Rogan?

[@mrmervinjminky1536]

Tbf she is Scottish 😂

[@pcbacklash_3261]

I'm shocked! MTV still plays videos?!!! 8-/

[@jellieman1]

this was in 1994

[@codycline6678]

She can read me a Corey Taylor book.

[@maasaigeordie]

I've never heard her being interviewed and I thought she would be irratating like a lot of succesful Scottish women are e.g. Annie Lennox. I think she's cool as fuck now!

[@seantripp6028]

That's $128,703.86 folks... This woman is stout as fuck

[@riddlewrong]

It's actually much more than that. She's describing the drug spending as the catalyst for the formation of Angelfish, which happened in 1992. Adjusted for inflation, it's actually over $250,000 in today's money.

[@angus_white]

128k in todays money maybe but back then it was closer to $230000 dollery-doos. the value of the pound has really dropped a lot over the past 20 years particularly after brexit.

[@NeonGen2000]

It was the whole band taking that drugs people, calm down. :P

[@seantripp6028]

No

[@willb6442]

Clearly it wasn't all on speed she said so herself. They just spent it all stupidly...they wasted the money on Garbage

[@STapia-hf7vp]

I partied with a Scottish girl, all night. She was THE hottest in zelos bar in S.B. I could barely understand her because even though she was speaking English, she would mix in Scott slang.

[@VicInNocal]

So...she doesn't at all explain how her drug binge changed her career, she just says "by going off I ended up becoming the singer of Garbage because they saw my band's video on MTV" -what?

[@zenbyo]

VicInNocal they spent the whole advance on come so she ended up sticking with her old band long enough to get a video played on tv. After that is when they asked her to sing for Garbage.

[@JoseGranny]

Sometimes, that's how it happens. Look at the Rolling Stones. Their whole career was drug-fueled.

[@benwyatt7619]

She was in a band called Goodbye Mr Mackenzie, which blew all their money on drugs in 1992. The record label dropped the band but they believed in Shirley so they kept her. So, to circumvent this Shirley formed a new band called Angelfish, with her as the lead singer, and the rest of her original band mates behind her (also only Shirley appears on the album artwork / promotional artwork). They made a music video for a song called ‘Suffocate Me’ which played once on MTV’s 120 minutes. Steve Marker from Garbage always taped MTV and saw Angelfish’s video when looking back over the tape, he liked the song, and Garbage were looking for a female lead. So, they tracked her down and hired her.

[@johnhorchler667]

So is she still touring?

[@Hero_Of_Old]

Yes, I saw Garbage in London last saturday

[@guitarpop]

Joe Rogan thought the pound was worth half as much as the dollar? What a clown.

[@nikko.lottsahcocc6917]

about 2 years ago they were neck and neck the pound and the dollar, the euro was trailing in 3rd

[@escaton74]

it was... you only got one pound for two dollars

[@popedhop]

Play my drums a bit

[@paulmichael2589]

Ectasy is wonderful

[@mjp96]

Don't you hate giggly interviewers? So phony. Hate him to death, but Stern never did that.

[@babybundon]

why is she flirting with joe so blatantly no game....and her husband's probably there

[@raymondkowal8379]

he probably wants to get fucked by Joe too lol

[@babybundon]

she's bored I guess

[@AdlinLing]

Because of her accent, I kept thinking that Garbage is a European band instead of American.

[@arricammarques1955]

So much for Scottish frugality.

[@TooMuchTigerero]

Speed? Like meth??…

[@raymondkowal8379]

fukken goin off mate!!! I don't care... just gimme gimme gimme... THATS REAL ROCK SPIRIT

[@LILREMAlNS]

Cringe

[@karlk3968]

I did coke with two of the guys in the band almost 20 years ago.

[@MattQrillz]

Kudos for your honesty, bet you had fun aswell

[@thestr8person]

"kudos for your honesty" I feel the need to explain this whole internet thing to you!

[@aneural]

I wonder how many people actually believed that...

[@VicInNocal]

Drugs are so fucking boring.

[@Mike-hj7gg]

bahahahahaha.... yeah i know right? kinda like black is so fucking white..

[@beerNmusic]

VicInNocal That is not true at all.

[@VicInNocal]

I've yet to meet ONE interesting druggie in my life. The same with people who think they're so cool and unique because they get tattoos -it is actually the most UNORIGINAL thing there is. It's like they're 35 year olds who are still stuck in high school. Sorry if this dose of truth hurts your feelings Pumpkin.

[@beerNmusic]

VicInNocal I got a dose of opinions. Not truths. And i don't agree. Have you ever taken drugs? And maybe people get tattoos because THEY think it would look nice...?

[@Mike-hj7gg]

just because you cant hang, doesnt mean you should get your panties in a bunch... its all your opinion, i think someone like jimi hendrix or the entirety of led zeppelin were pretty damn interesting and would have stories about going to the bathroom that would exceed your entire life. arent you just mad that you arent cool or unique?

[@iconaastratta8202]

💕

[@TheVodec]

Sorry Shirley ... I just cant identify with going off and being proper mad.

[@mainliner181]

Good god, Joe Rogan is such a terrible interviewer. He's like TMZ on steroids.

[@ericdufresne6991]

Hahaha...

[@peanutboxes4076]

This woman had me cancelled from my job, losing me my entire career in the music industry, because I rejected booking some terrible and woke BLM pushing band that was her tour support, she implied I was a racist. I am half black. She doxxed me publicly. She caused me so much pain and suffering, I had a mental breakdown over it and being a working class person I couldn’t afford to legally challenge her. But I’ve decided I’m going to sue her for defamation now. Thanks to Mr Depp I feel inspired to clear my name.

[@Tammy8823]

Did you sue?

[@peanutboxes4076]

@@Tammy8823 couldn’t afford lawyers, so no, and I’ve considered still doing it now but again it’s a money issue and also I can’t be bothered with more drama as I’ve moved on now. I don’t want to deal with all the online abuse again really.

[@Hero_Of_Old]

Really?? Love the band and Shirley but seems she's gone a bit mental the last few years

[@MattQrillz]

Compare her life to a christians. Haha, who has the better experiences and 'closer to spritual oneness' moments?

[@spaide98]

first

[@larryhoover718]

spaide98 1st

[@danburrows9635]

Second

[@fatherfinger]

she looks like a Lil doggie

[@tourdefacre9687]

Try to stay relevant Manson .

[@daisyalicia]

lmfao. theyre in their 50s and 60s wtf, she cant keep making music for their fanbase and talk about the past?

[@tourdefacre9687]

@@daisyalicia She jumps on any bandwagon she can find - always has and always will. Makes up for the lack of talent.

[@daisyalicia]

@@tourdefacre9687 ahahahahahahahaahahahaha

[@Catonius]

She looks like she spent (and took) twice that. Minging, look at the state of her.

[@mikeberens9534]

She’s like 52 here…she’s doing damn well!

[@JohnDoe-sx2zk]

Please feel sorry to Shirley Manson , the oppressed and victimized artiste even though she's worth 15 million! Who fucking pays for a Garbage album anyway these days?

[@kegorogers]

Phenomenal lady. I would enjoy another season of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles because her character was just getting interesting when the series ended. Shirley Manson seemed genuinely excited about acting, and was captivating in the role as a terminator. Watching her and Craig Ferguson reminisce about their early years in Scotland is delightful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3fYgYuZqL6UabM&t