Bodyweight, Barbell, Kettlebell - Which is Best? /Pavel Tsatsouline | Joe Rogan

Taken from JRE #1399 w/Pavel Tsatsouline:
• Joe Rogan Experience #...

[@jopo7996]

Joe has to start marketing a kettlebell of his head, and the handle is his headphones.

[@carsonbarrett2529]

I would buy at least 2

[@edumacatedmoe7565]

I'll take 12

[@Menaceblue3]

Jamie, pull my kettlebell up!

[@scarface198224]

Actually an awesome idea 👏

[@jarodsowards1234]

Would buy

[@fredfred5317]

I love how Pavel basically interviews himself, asking his own questions and then answering them.

[@plottwist340]

That is the russian style

[@stefanwolf8558]

In Soviet Russia, you interview yourself.

[@allanh7137]

@@stefanwolf8558 😂

[@kamilkozik7204]

Calming voice he has

[@kevinc2332]

Hahahah.

[@mmaforecast9513]

This guy is like the handsome squidward version of Joe Rogan

[@LeggoMyLegYo]

Bahahaha

[@paulbannon1311]

Bruh 😂

[@tytsam72]

True 🤣🤣🤣

[@Bloodstop]

Ahahahahhahahah

[@shanehavens9251]

Squilliams Lol

[@beatssearcher1778]

Summary: → Machines are good for advanced lifters when they are injured or when they want to focus on something specific → Machines are bad for begginers : Not enough control → Ju jit su → kettlebell traning universally →Stability, core → Bodyweight takes a lot of coaching → take more time → downside : don’t train lower back effectively → Barbell : if u like heavy stuff → Problem is learning curve, takes some time → Barbell is not forgiving → Kettlebell adapts to your body → Aging → Loss of fast muscle type : • They are medically require : To process sugar • Deal with real life situation (Fall, etc) → Type two fibers, mitochondrial degeneration takes place → Much faster than other → Two ways to train type two fibers : Heavy, or fast → Slow training : Develop type 1 fibers → more efficient, contract slower, more endurance and strenght too → It has to be done correctly → 30 to 60 seconds, Select your range of motion, and no momentum → after these kind of set, resting for 5 to 10m → Very good for wrestlers

[@85MAYS]

One mistake - You didn't get coaching before summarizing the interview.

[@beatssearcher1778]

Feel free to correct it, it's just a personnal note. if someone want to correct it or add something, say it i'll edit and it'll be a great help for everyone

[@VeereshSharma]

Excellent summary. Please consider adding. Superset to manage rest times. Train twice a week. 5 to 10 sets on heavy day, 1 to 3 sets on light day.

[@charlesfurer]

@@85MAYS BeatsSearcher, I think Mike M was pulling your leg.

[@85MAYS]

@@charlesfurer I shoulda got more coaching before pulling legs. I could've seriously injured somebody.

[@Kpictures_NYC]

After listening to this guy I feel I need to hire a trainer just to walk correctly.

[@questionableidentity1]

LOL

[@BoCObeats]

its actually quite likely you don't know how to walk properly

[@JohnSmith-tr9us]

LMAO

[@waywardson1663]

He actually mentions that in his videos! He says that people in the west walk slouched forward because of tight hips, where kettlebell training will loosen and 'unlock' the hips, leading to better posture when walking, i.e. shoulders back, leading with your belly.

[@caseyfenton90]

@@waywardson1663 What a massive load of bullshit.

[@sgt.finstad3412]

Two Kettlebells talking about Kettlebells

[@AB-gz9yb]

Sgt. Finstad lol

[@justinberber9848]

You mean bellends.

[@t3hgir]

kek

[@londonspade5896]

I lol'd

[@kettlebellmusclegain]

do you mean kettleballs?

[@jackedkerouac4414]

This guy is the personification of how Joe sees himself after a 20 min HIIT workout

[@emad9202]

😂😂😂😂

[@MrSagarcool14]

@@emad9202 why you getting likes for replying with an emoji

[@kevone-eo6pq]

and you only got 2 likes. @@MrSagarcool14

[@collinmorelock4911]

I've watched a lot of JRE, this guy is one of the best communicators I've seen, he is so good at walking u thru a long explanation, easy to follow, concise, measured. Impressive

[@lvsoad22]

Agreed, english is not this guys first language and he's a much better communicator than me.

[@Mr1Tanker]

And i think i could listen to him all day. His accent, mannerisms, and way of talking...without 100 "uh's/um's" is relaxing and doesn't wear you out.

[@hungrygator4716]

sounds dangerous too

[@wittvonwitt4403]

Right! He is an absolute authority on his subject.

[@nl3712]

That’s what an EXPERT sounds like

[@thomasmrk3225]

nothing like a good ol conversation between two extremely bald men

[@sebbyh9764]

bald is bald is bald is bald

[@nealreaves5136]

Thanks that literally made me lol.

[@nicholasmaxwell9899]

What a disgusting display of baldism!

[@nicholasmaxwell9899]

Apologize, baldist!

[@nicholasmaxwell9899]

@Shon Seibert You forgot Bruce Willis! Now stop pandering to "people of baldness"!

[@scotty8190]

Kettlebell guy - do kettlebell stuff, it’s the best Crossfit guy - do Crossfit stuff, it’s the best Body builder - do body building, it’s the best Olympic weightlifter - do Olympic weightlifting, it’s the best F45 guy - do F45, it’s the best Jeff Cavalier - do face pulls, their the best

[@tdogable]

*they’re

[@CodyHazelleMusic]

This was the first thing I noticed when getting into bodybuilding...Everyone has an opinion, and theirs is the most correct one. I had a personal trainer tell me I can do abs every day, only to have a friend tell me my personal trainer was full of shit.

[@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514]

Kettlebells work best for me. I love the intensity and the ability to train my whole body with every exercise, and I loath the boring pace of bodybuilding/powerlifting styles of training. Training comes down to personal preference: DO WHAT YOU LIKE TO DO, AND DO IT CONSISTENTLY! That is all that really matters, some methods might be slightly more effective, but anything is superior to nothing.

[@nicholaseikelberry8009]

It's almost like.....There's numerous ways to do things in fitness!

[@MrDziuka]

Climbing is the best

[@-John-Doe-]

20 year old me: _”I’m young this doesn’t apply to me.”_ 30 year old me: _”I have too many injuries”_

[@HarryG98]

Now I’m scared

[@ryanryan8047]

This is too true

[@areebahmed1290]

if you guys are injured or hurting you can check out kneesovertoesguy on instagram or I can give you personal injury coaching for a discounted price

[@sahatrizki1539]

@@areebahmed1290 nice try ahmed but no

[@areebahmed1290]

@@sahatrizki1539 why no, it works and not a single personwho has done it has said otherwise

[@STEELPHIT]

The kettlebell is truly a wonderful piece of strength equipment. Appropriate joint tracking, ease of transportation, implementation into any movement pattern (push, pull, press, squat, hinge, lunge, twist), and versatility in its ability to be flipped upsidedown for shoulder stability training, the kettlebell is a useful tool in a strong man's arsenal. It isn't all you need for mass and hypertrophy, but certainly builds strength that carries over the functional life activities (tactical and functional strength).

[@brennengodeen3796]

When traveling and I have limited space or availability, kettlebell is my favorite. Easy to put into the vehicle and bring with you to hotels ect. People seem to have a love/hate relationship with them. It’s just another tool that can aid in fitness goals. Grab a heavy kettlebell and go carry it back and forth alternating arms with each change of direction (farmers carry). It’s a very versatile piece of equipment and I agree with you, can be used to train many if not all planes of motion and movement patterns.

[@justinburns9875]

This guy looks like a much more shiny and serious version of joe rogan.

[@mappy-5934]

It's what Joe would look like without juice

[@ramherrump]

The missing link between Joe Rogan and Patrick Stewart

[@juncruz3685]

he is dead now

[@RyanMcCarty]

Like a stretched out Joe Rogan

[@iloverosenamajunas8082]

@@RyanMcCarty Joe Rogan is the widescreen version of him

[@codysigouin5033]

You can literally see Joe from the reflection coming off this guys head

[@BoyBlessing]

Codysig45 no you can’t lol

[@beetlejuice4357]

@@BoyBlessing i can

[@saula6343]

lmao

[@spodergibbs5088]

yeayeayea yes you can

[@MrAtomicAardvark]

Lmao both of them

[@DARTHeeek]

Get Jeff Cavaliere on. Not having Jeff Cavaliere on is killing your gains!

[@yvonnesanders2490]

For some reason I can't like your post but yes

[@thelazyhandyman8581]

Because you have to hit the thumbs up icon...sometimes it doesn't work for me until I hit the icon well. Hope this helps.

[@Bene249]

lmao

[@perrygriffin2371]

Haha

[@robertgoldhirsch4065]

😂😂😂😂

[@Beachfitrob]

Any workout you’ll consistently do with effort is the best one.

[@dylankane9709]

Facts

[@wendym5086]

100% agree! Got to love it!

[@brennengodeen3796]

There is value in enjoying your preferred training program and methodology as well. Too many people search for the “perfect/best” programming or equipment. Most Americans would benefit from just walking these days. So many excuses, find a form of exercise or physical activity that you enjoy and do it often. I completely agree with you, most people would benefit more from consistency than any other variable.

[@johnnycto7576]

"Take walking. It requires some coaching, not easy for a beginner to do!"

[@thephantomterence9211]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stophi2581]

It's there job. They coach everything that is any kind of movement. 😉

[@neuromancer27]

Best comment haha!

[@thomasgill223]

I was going to say much the same... But about coitus.

[@eduardochavez82]

@@thomasgill223 Thomas "Coitus" Gill

[@edwarddeerly1755]

Then there's eating. It takes a LOT of coaching to postion the food in your mouth correctly...

[@kensei1972]

You, laugh, but I bit the shit out of myself the other day. Now all I can do is eat with a kettlebell.

[@shuaibahmed435]

lol i knr - how hard is it to do a push up / pull up correctly

[@Christopher-md7tf]

Nah but many people could still use a coach sitting next to them, reminding them to eat slowly and to properly chew their food. Most of us just absent-mindedly stuff food into our face while talking, working or watching Netflix, which is absolutely not healthy.

[@edwarddeerly1755]

@@kensei1972 I HATE it when that happens...

[@edwarddeerly1755]

@@Christopher-md7tf Or slap the cookies out of my hand...

[@mtae5]

This is the only interview where I felt Joe's life was in danger.

[@lockerroomtalkmusic4149]

MTAE lmao

[@carlmarc3877]

🤣😅

[@karlkanner3467]

MTAE lmao

[@saidelbiev5326]

what makes you think that comrade?

[@DenianArcoleo]

LOL

[@Jheassler]

It’s so nice to see a father son podcast

[@sarahblanco9839]

ha ha! i know right

[@dadbodmtb]

Because they're both bald? 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@TA-ht4jo]

@@dadbodmtbnothing gets past you! 😂

[@hondapatocrf85]

Especially lame jokes

[@janzbot71]

The one that makes you get off the couch is best.

[@omcorc]

janzbot71 Agreed. So many people are doing nothing, and their heads explode hearing all the different approaches to training. Start small, and learn and discover over time.

[@nadimkhoury5547]

Word

[@Yoaedn]

To The Fridge? 😂 I get a lil more fat each time I get up.

[@nightfighter7452]

The microwave going off

[@TheFury295]

Uber eats knocking on the door 👀 jk lol

[@robbybee70]

man I could listen to Pavel talk about exercise for hours, I'm a big fan and I swear I learn something new every time I hear or read something from him

[@tomdrahos7739]

Is this guy for real? Of course machines are bad. Exhibit A: Terminator.

[@tonyaviles5308]

What about Iron Man

[@tomdrahos7739]

Fair point.

[@TititoDeBologay]

You got me on the 1st half

[@thephantomterence9211]

We need to find Sarah Connor

[@Kellastico]

LOL!!

[@frankmorris2603]

Comrade.....put down that bong.

[@shenway1470]

Lol !

[@Skymaaan]

Comrad reference, I was just searching for some 😅

[@Sagittariuz912]

A wise man once said: "It doesn't matter, because the muscle can't see what is in your hands."

[@SuperiorRecaps]

Arnold in the Mens health interview.

[@scottyphik171]

True

[@ajgrant6172]

It isn't the muscle (in the way that you mean). These actually do matter. Try it.

[@rosi1016555]

But it does matter where the weight is, and what you do with the weight

[@souleymaneben]

This is dumb as shit. Anyone who knows anything about physics or biomechanics can see this is horseshite.

[@tcavalo]

I started using 35 lbs kettlebells back in 2008 when I was 41. I used to be extremely fit while I was in the Marine Corps back in 85 - 91, but I was very out of shape at the time of 41 years old. I found a YT video called Force Recon workout and started performing the exercises. A buddy of mine from the 101st got me running 3 - 5 miles nearly everyday. At the end of 3 months I was rock fucking solid and was in better shape that I was when I first got out of boot camp. There was absolutely no slop in my normal body movements. Now at 52, I have broke my 35's and 44's out to rebuild this dilapidated house. You cannot go wrong with kettlebells.

[@mr.jameson218]

Damn, go beat the fuck out of the douchiest peckernut you can find.

[@Its_Nori]

Itchy cornhole 😂😂😂😂

[@texaswesternwelding915]

What’s the link for the force recon workout?

[@AjaychinuShah]

What are you implying? The Marines at shitty Physical Training until someone came alone fixed it?

[@AjaychinuShah]

Laugh so hard at Royal Army and their Free Weights program. WW 2 peace brotha

[@KungfuMary]

I started kettlebell training because the machines at the gym are always busy and I have to wait for my turn, lengthy times . I fell in love with kettlebells training, it increased my strength training and results by two, it covers now 90% of my training..

[@brennengodeen3796]

Machines are definitely at the bottom of the list of equipment selection and prioritization. It’s certainly better than nothing and remaining sedentary. KB’s are the superior choice for general physical preparedness and fitness. Any free weight is superior for the general population. Machines have their place like injuries and isolation exercises but there is a reason why college and professional weight rooms have mostly free weights. The machines are in the athletic training room. Yes free weights require more technique and training or coaching may benefit some but we all have to start somewhere and with time and practice, you can improve technique on your own. Otherwise you will have some meathead who took a weekend long course telling you to alter your technique with some voodoo magic. I enjoy group exercise classes occasionally as it serves as a social occasion but listening to some trainers or coaches instruction is atrocious. In general, it’s really not that complicated unless it’s Olympic barbell movements. Everyone can continuously improve their technique or address flexibility/mobility/imbalances but I see a lot of people trying their best to improve and technique is grossly overvalued. It should never be the limiting factor that prevents someone from exercising. Our bodies are rather resilient and can accommodate to poor form without our consciousness. Of course you want to do it right but nobody ever started strength training and had perfect form. People have more overuse and chronic injuries than those who suffer an injury due to poor technique. The fitness community has made things far more complicated than they appear. Continue doing whatever it is that you enjoy and remain active. Free weights require more joint stabilization and mobility than machines. Overuse and chronic injuries commonly occur with poor joint control (weak joint stabilization muscles) and repetitive movement patterns. This is not to say machines are not incapable of improving fitness or strength. However, your kettlebell selection will only serve you better and support your longevity. Most machine advocates are just dudes who have “bad knees” and leg press that cannot squat nearly the same weight or lack the athleticism, flexibility or mobility to perform the movement. I guess a yoked body builder would make the same argument but again, many require joint replacements or reconstructive surgery later in life. Being big is cool and all but so is aging well and having freedom of movement that is pain free. I’ll just keep hammering these resistance bands and rattle the cages. Use a variety of equipment, move often, be consistent and enjoy the process.

[@colleenr2]

I choose kettlebells over barbells for the exact reasons Pavel mentioned. With the slight imbalance I have in my shoulders, overhead and chest presses with barbells absolutely kill me. I love the flexibility kettlebells offer for strength training and body composition (the lean, but muscular build).

[@brennengodeen3796]

Kettlebells are extremely versatile and are excellent when traveling. I cannot fit a barbell in my vehicle but I can fit a kettlebell and they certainly aid in alleviating muscular imbalances. Band work and unilateral isometric exercises with a dumbbell are an additional tool as well.

[@ChrisShawarma]

Damn, I started reading Pavel's Naked Warrior over 10 years ago. This dude inspired me in so many ways. Straight forward, simple, clear. Go Pavel.

[@frankrizzo7975]

okay but how much can he squat?

[@hogsandsooners]

So, when do you think you’ll be finished with it? I’d like to borrow it.

[@ChrisShawarma]

@@hogsandsooners lol, the book has been read a couple of times now. It's yours to have if you come and pick it up :)

[@republicaninfidel2221]

Big book is it

[@ChrisShawarma]

@@republicaninfidel2221 lol, it's less than 150 pages I think. My comment can be easily misinterpreted. Good book though :D

[@burnindownthehouse]

This guest he has on here is excellent. I've heard of his training programs in the past. I watched some of the other clips of him during this interview, too. If you really want to know how to get strong, this guy is an expert. He definitely knows what he is talking about. Listen closely to what he says. If you notice, he doesn't focus so much on bodybuilding because that is its own thing entirely. That is its own art and science. Bodybuilding definitely includes strength training, but that's only one aspect of bodybuilding. What he is mainly talking about here is how to get very strong. He talks about what is scientifically proven to work.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Pavel is great and I enjoyed the kettlebell session with him years ago.

[@rorz999]

Bodybuilding is honestly stupid the more I think about it. Getting big for the sake of getting big... what is the point?

[@aaronb2779]

@@rorz999to be big and look good. How is that anymore stupid than other aims

[@brennengodeen3796]

Would rather be properly jacked than be a pencil necked road cyclist

[@KenHumphrey1]

I'm 68 and have using gym equipment for many years, the gym staff complained I put the music up to high in the gym so I made my own gym so I have barbels and curls bars etc and a smart indoor cycle trainer but after watching this podcast I went out and bought some Kettles which I'd never dreamed of using before, its early days yet to come to a conclusion but its fun doing the swings but quite exhausting, in between sets I go on my boxing speed ball but haven't yet disciplined myself for 30secs yet, I started with the 16 kilo and soon moved up to 20 kilos, I have 3 kettles now and they're ideal, I now have my son in law training with me now on kettles

[@majurbludd]

I have been lifting for years. Your 20s: Hardcore barbell to failure. Your 30s machines. Your 40s whatever doesn’t hurt that day.

[@smurf88]

The reason you cant lift in your 40s is because you did irreparable damage in your 20s.

[@thesorcererfox777]

@@smurf88 I was just about to say, if you feel like that at 40, you did some shit seriously wrong

[@gator6596]

60's - Hardcore anything that works for you, lots more rest & recovery!

[@davidjd123]

I’ll probably use barbells forever. But I don’t want a 500 pound squat or a 405 bench

[@vegeta8169]

Hahaha true

[@sachinelearning]

Pavel Tsatsouline is the father of Kettlebell workouts in USA! Respect man! you inspire me tons!

[@milesallen7339]

I watch this when it first came out. This dude knows his stuff. Getting back into shape and everything on this podcast translates. even reminding me to throw in some new stuff this week...... Buying a kettlebell

[@mullboll33]

Before watching I’m assuming: “It all just really depends on the individual and their goals. All three have pros and cons.”

[@funtube1500]

In summary: "It requires some coaching" jumping - coaching squats - coaching breathing - coaching

[@olegnovitski6987]

Life requires coaching. Coaching requires coching as well.

[@Dee-Ell]

funtube1500 Barbell? Coaching. Super slow training? Coaching. Useless advices? No coaching (He stopped short of saying kettlebell training requires coaching, probably even more than the other methods of training. But since he’s a kettlebell salesman...)

[@bennythebear0711]

Jumping requires coaching apparently that’s why ever 3 year old can do it?

[@carlmarc3877]

🤣

[@alexanderstilianov]

Blinking takes skill mate. If not done properly you could have your retina pierced by an eyelash.

[@IsaacMorgan98]

So what we've learned is just like it has been forever, the best equipment is the equipment that best suits your goals... why are people still having this "which is best" discussion 🙄 it's all equally useful and not useful. A calisthenics trainer really doesn't need a barbell if he only has calisthenics goals, see Artem Morozov for an example. On the other hand a powerlifter probably doesn't need a set of dip bars cause he ain't competing with dips. Jujitsu guys like kettle bells cause it works full body coordination but doesn't a marathon runner NEED to do turkish get ups...

[@mr.jameson218]

They're weighing the pros and cons of each piece of equipment, people hearing the benefits of a kettle bell might adopt them into their routine or a beginner may be wanting to get an idea of which piece of equipment to use by hearing which is best for reaching a certain goal. The world doesn't revolve around you, my dude. Stop looking for things to complain about.

[@simkont6793]

@@mr.jameson218 but he has a point though some people want to get big then kettlebells and bodyweight is gonna suck some people want to be able to do human flag and planks etc then obviously practicing with bodyweight is beneficial. I guess if you just dont have any goals and want to work out to be healthier or whatever this could be helpful in some way. That's not being negative it's just stating that if you want to be good at math studying english won't help you accomplish that even if they are both basicly training your brain.

[@wehatekeith]

Kettle bells & Elk meat

[@1bizkid]

with some DMT sprinkled on top :P

[@circle11111]

estoban kupah for real

[@Lurch685]

And running with Marshall Mae in the Hollywood hills.

[@franksmith4277]

@estoban kupah the trt is the most important part

[@carlmarc3877]

Yurp lol

[@nineorders6626]

”For heavy stuff and building muscle no one hascome up with anything better than the barbell.” Well that pretty much settles it. 🏋️‍♂️

[@forbesfoofighters]

Strongman is probably the best thing to actually carryover to real labour. Carrying sandbags, rocks, farmers handles, pressing logs overhead etc.

[@gregquinn7817]

Who the fuck wants to train to do manual labor?

[@gesshugh9976]

@@gregquinn7817 Someone who has a lot of manual labor to do?

[@TheRosyCodex]

@@gesshugh9976 funny but actually no. The body can get worn down from too much of the same movements under tension. The gym can be used as a complement to those movements you regularly do in your work or your sport to make the body stronger and balanced as a whole

[@gesshugh9976]

@@TheRosyCodex Um... I think you misunderstood. I was responding to the second comment, who asked what person would want to train for manual labor, to which I commented that it would be someone with a lot of manual labor they need to perform. I didn't say not to train in the gym, in fact my comment entirely implied that if one need to complete a large amount of manual labor, that training in the gym for it was a logical step.

[@HooDRidEWhiteY]

@@gregquinn7817 People who simply enjoy strongman training.

[@DrunkenDarwin]

I remember them talking about pavel on another episode. so happy they got him on here!

[@jmctigret]

Looks like a James Bond villain.

[@marcello256256]

Sounds like a James Bond villain

[@DavidMartinez-zk8vs]

Of course he’s soviet.

[@VoidedTea]

I think main advantage of kettlebell is in that it allows to combine weight and cardio training into a single workout. And it takes very little space. So for health training, especially at home, it is probably the best option in addition to body weight and some running, swimming, etc.

[@SwissCheese112]

but for size....not so much

[@growlerfrown487]

Great for fat loss

[@davidlynch9049]

@@SwissCheese112 Size is for Sissy's. Kettlebell is for strength and you don't need roids!

[@SwissCheese112]

@@davidlynch9049 a great lightweight boxer doesnt beat a good heavyweight. Thats why the saying a good big man beats a great little man exists in boxing. Size matters,

[@rorz999]

​@@SwissCheese112size matters, but it's not the only thing that matters or even the most important thing. I know bodybuilders who look the part but can't even run a mile

[@mWf57]

Pretty cool seeing a pioneer in several ways on this podcast. I met him before a few times and began to compete in kettlebells in 2005 til present though not as much. Joe Rogan, I can speak to the success of kettlebells and how it transformed me functionally. And explain how it would prepare one in part to fighting and combat relating to survival and mental tenacity.

[@pablomendez8039]

Been waiting for pavel to get here since the first joe’s podcast

[@richborn6700]

I swear every fitness guest basically says "Forget everything you think you know about exercise and strength".

[@justin15157]

Cause they want to market themselves trying to reinvent the wheel. Sure they have some good points and advice but there's not much new in fitness

[@WhitePilledSanctuary]

@@justin15157 Tell that to Men’s Fitness with its isolation split routines every issue that’s the new “secret” to strength and size. Apparently simply saying pick up heavy shit and put it back down doesn’t sell well. Especially to men that are against any compound except bench press.

[@brennengodeen3796]

The result of a culture that produces personal trainers over a weekend course. Meanwhile, strength and conditioning specialists have a bachelor or master’s degree.

[@offthechainfitness]

the comments here should win a youtube award.

[@Tachyon111]

OMG! He speaks so fluently! Awesome job!!!!!! I know it is hard work!

[@FernandoGarcia-pv5ct]

Just said this dude's name and my furniture started levatating

[@rickrodriguez2005]

Was this a Harry Potter joke. If so. Great job.

[@Lawlson21]

Haha! Funniest comment I've ever read.

[@HappyIntrinsic]

Lmao underrated comment 😂

[@legiolux3778]

Forget the kattlebell, more cowbell.

[@80oliveirinha]

Best coment!!!

[@MyGashIsBigger]

Mark Rippetoe had a brain aneurysm when he saw this video.

[@bubhinson]

D F he says get your athlete strong, then get that stronger athlete good at their sport. He does the first part the best.

[@MyGashIsBigger]

D F you guys may be right. But barbell training is the most transferable to the other sports. Not kettle bell training. Bill Starr wrote about that a long time ago.

[@horvathbenedek3596]

MyGashIsBigger No, you see, barbells are just too hard to teach people - they have a steep learning curve with a lot of potential injuries. Unlike Turkish get ups, which are of course a multi-dimensional exercise that utilize the whole body in a way literally nobody ever uses their body. It's perfectly intuitive.

[@FistOfNorthStar3]

@D F He doesn't lack any knowledge on how to get strong. He has literally the best information on how to train strength.

[@baltimorebjj]

@@ericmoorman9680 Yes getting stronger for the average person is straight forward and SS is good for that. But think of it this way, in high level sports, the athletes are extremely competitive, they will do whatever it takes to win. If squatting 405 would give them an advantage in their sport they would do it, no questions asked. However their are tons of BJJ world champions and elite athletes (and mma fighters, wrestlers, runners, cyclists, swimmers, tennis players etc) that cannot squat 405. Accomplishing that would require them to take away from the work and recovery needed to perform their sport at a high level. Everyone in those sports is aware of barbell training, and many choose not to do it. (Yes some do it, and there are some strong ones) There is no overwhelming evidence that a higher squat will get you to the top of the podium in anything other than powerlifting. If you squat tested top finishers in all of these sports you wouldn't find a lot of correlation between their squat and how well they did in the sport. I'm also not saying kettlebell training is any better, and the same case can be made.

[@gainsfinder6706]

Fascinating talk and lots of exercise knowledge there. Thank you for sharing this.

[@brokeandbored85]

He looks like Hitman code name 47

[@nathanhiggins1438]

Time is one of the top factors for someone with kids and career and side gigs to keep in shape. Low rest training with kettlebells is so good to make you feel good, nimble, look good without spending 2 hours lifting

[@KiimiKooooo]

Nobody impresses me as much as Pavel Tsatsouline regarding knowledge and understanding of muscle training. That guy is an ocean of knowledge

[@Squidiot]

I LOVE this interview because Joe just lets him go. Never says a word or makes a sound. It’s important because of how this guy talks. I was totally engaged.

[@mattwhitmore9968]

I had to wear sunglasses to watch this video

[@vicn1349]

So cool you had Pavel on your show!! His kettlebell programming is awesome!!

[@qualityinn5063]

Comrade!

[@tier1turks]

What is his workout program ?. Can u tell

[@vicn1349]

Serkan it use to be RKC (Russian Kettlebell Challenge) but now I believe it’s StrongFirst

[@simoncondron6056]

@@tier1turks he’s got a few. Primary one at present is called “Simple and Sinister”.

[@1neomonkey]

Please get Mark Rippetoe on for proper Barbell training. Swinging around 30lbs kettlebells is no where near as "funcional" as training your body to do a 600lbs deadlift, or a 500lbs squat.

[@sicnic666]

AndyB I don’t think you know what functional means

[@ericziegelbauer968]

And the injuries that will lead up to moving all that weight , not ideal for the long run, people want to be healthy and look good, gone are the days of meathead juicing

[@erko78]

I only do body weight workouts and in wrestling/BJJ I’m stronger than every dude that lifts.

[@Hhhlll7778]

erko78 That proofs absolutely nothing

[@jonathanerickson1543]

AndyB Pavel is a barbell trainer too. Do the research. He also agrees with much of Marks training. I combine both, it works wonders for any tactical athlete.

[@JaykleMusic]

really great to hear all this info on lifting and about the kettlebell

[@0181spikri]

Joe be getting everyone on his podcast. Crazy man! Good shit dawg!! Much love from the Netherlands!

[@cbaum64]

It’s baffling how something so biological and scientific can be so subjective. So many contradictions in the weight training world.

[@RealColdG]

Christian Baumgartner I was going to say I know guys who would argue that dumbbells are better. Amazing how many different opinions there are on this.

[@Stierenkloot]

So many assholes trying to sell themselves really.

[@Enigmatized13]

When you look at hunter gatherers, they have the optimal fitness and strength. They know how and when to use it for best effect.

[@stevend481]

And nutrition i guess.. hence all the debates recently

[@jamesjacob9632]

@@Enigmatized13 No they don't. Someone who applies science to fitness and strength will outperform a hunter gatherer in any activity massively.

[@drossi101]

The two shiniest heads on earth, together in one room. Amazing.

[@onebasket7347]

Just loving hear this guys voice. Like a guided meditation

[@ebg3624]

I’m gonna walk in my gym and just see everyone going hard on kettle bell swings 😂😂😂😂

[@wtg7756]

Kettlebell, barbell, machine, walking, running whatever.....just do something and get started get moving. Pick something you like and enjoy and stick at it . Doing something is way better than nothing!

[@travw6272]

Choose the style of exercise that you enjoy the most. I’m a personal trainer and I love trying as many styles of lifting as possible. They all work it’s just finding what works best for you and what you enjoy the most. I have clients that hate normal resistance training so I train them in body weight or kettlebell style workouts. And vice versa. All depends on your goals and what you like the most.

[@Katbook]

Well said 😊

[@brennengodeen3796]

I agree, most Americans would benefit from just walking or any form of physical activity. I always encourage those who are new or just starting to find an exercise program, location, variety or method that they enjoy and will participate regularly into old age. Many get hyperfocused on the hierarchy and I’m just focused on getting Americans to move, walk or exercise. I think there should be tax incentives or other motivators for those who exercise regularly and make good lifestyle choices. That’s magical thinking though, since when has the US government ever incentivized responsible behavior or good life choices? They tend to make this group pay for the others who make poor lifestyle choices and generally sedentary without physical activity. Nah, just give them a GLP-1 agonist instead. Why is it so difficult to reward individuals who demonstrate accountability, discipline and integrity. Honestly, what would it take to get Americans to walk 15 minutes a day? I would recommend health insurance companies reimburse doctors accordingly to allow the necessary and timely conversation with regard to diet, exercise and wellness. Simply telling patients to “eat better and exercise more” is a disservice and should not be tolerated. Perhaps insurance companies could cover some costs for proper instruction and coaching, even if temporary? Incentivize people who eat a balanced diet and practice moderation? It’s so disheartening to see a patient tell me their idea or understanding of diet and exercise and to no fault of their own, couldn’t be more inaccurate. I don’t expect them to have the knowledge either, but a 15 minute appointment is not nearly enough. The system has made it easier and more convenient to prescribe medication without proper lifestyle change trials or attempts. I’m becoming more convinced that the corporations are more interested in lifelong customers than they are in prevention and cure. A few office visits to acquire knowledge and develop a deliberate plan combined with determination, motivation and discipline from the patients contribution would provide greater results than aggressive medication management. Obviously exceptions to this approach exist and some require medication but the general adult only needs guidance and the tenacity to achieve their goals. No secret formula or shortcuts, just progressive and sustainable lifestyle changes. But that approach doesn’t generate the same profit margins. I approach the majority of medications as a temporary solution, not a lifelong commitment. Our goal should be to get patients off of medications if indicated by maximizing sleep, diet and exercise. Again, life saving medications exist and are a absolute necessity for many. However, many chronic health conditions can be managed with the methods above. I hope the culture changes and a focus on prevention and longevity is celebrated accordingly. Many took a oath, few adhere. Lastly, can the government also get rid of BMI or develop a measurement that accounts for body composition instead? This is just a continuation of their incompetence and laziness overall. It’s not a worthless metric but it certainly isn’t an accurate representation.

[@muoian]

Great breakout down of the different weight training paths

[@Reisito305]

From the thumb nail I thought this was Mark Messier

[@KenOnStrength]

Mark Rippetoe needs to come on your show, Joe!

[@digolaverdad7313]

Yes. He would be a great guest

[@paulfroelich1024]

Hip Draaaaaaaahhhhv. The deadlift...is a poo-uhl.

[@carlossanchezdelgado6262]

this is by far the podcast I´ve listened more times, and I don´t go to the gym. It´s amazing the precisision Pavel explains everything that he says.

[@cbhitman1174]

Why no love for dumbbells? I get great workouts from them and they have been a lifesaver for me along with my adjustable bench while gyms have been closed the last few months. I’ve always felt they work a lot more of the muscle fibers than a barbell. Now kettlebell training is something I may need to get into now that I’m pushing 40.

[@eddieg9506]

I'm pushing 50 (yikes!) and kettlebells are keeping me feeling good in my body. The body does change as you age. It's a reality so understanding YOUR body and adjusting how you treat it is key. Everybody is different, but kettlebells are good for me (mobility, mood, weight, etc) . I use dumbells and barbells for a little added strength and hypertrophy here and there, but with barbells I always feel the risk of injury is greater than the others by a large margin. Do what works best for you and live a happy healthy life 💪🙌

[@kleshayer3751]

Eddie G hey I’m 30 just a quick question I want to get prepared when I’m 50. What are things do you think I should know to be prepared when I’m 50

[@sickkunt1573]

@@kleshayer3751 eat good, sleep good, work out basically every day. Most important would be to stretch after every work out, helps out a ton. Besides strength training, do cardio every day, it's crucial.

[@brennengodeen3796]

Resistance training (weight training) to prevent osteoporosis, muscle atrophy, fragility, falls, metabolic disease and balance/coordination. Short rest periods can be sufficient for cardiovascular fitness. The evidence is clear, if you have a very limited schedule or availability to exercise, resistance training provides the most benefit in general. We are still stuck in the age of aerobic training as the superior choice. It’s essential and important, absolutely. However, if I were aging and had 1-2 hours a week to exercise, resistance training would be my choice based on the scientific evidence. Something is always better than nothing and consistency is king.

[@BigstickNick]

It all works. Combining them all is the real answer.

[@Linkous12]

Speaking of calisthenics, having Al Kavadlo (or both Kavadlo brothers) on the podcast would be great!

[@tiderider]

The Kavadlo Brothers are too smart for Joe.

[@Linkous12]

@@tiderider All the better reason for them to be on.

[@edinkciku6449]

The fourth category is missing in the title: face-pulls

[@Scyllax]

I got Pavel’s book “Power to The People”, twenty years ago. It was full of great information.

[@fookustudios3279]

I've been working out for over 20+ years now. One thing I've learned is that everyone that lifts weights thinks their way is the best and no one else knows what they talking about. Which is, of course, is complete horse shiat. The equation is simple it's been done for decades. Work out consistently. Keep a schedule and stick to it best you can. Do different exercises not just some flat routine Lift a challenging amount of weight, but not too much. Eat right Get good sleep. It's not complicated and the people that want to make it that way are just trying to sell you kettle bells.

[@Stierenkloot]

You can stick to the same routine man. You just contradicted yourself. Thinking your way is best when you complain about people thinking heir way is best. Only thing that matters is to train consistently and push yourself and eat enough. That’s it

[@fookustudios3279]

@@Stierenkloot yeah uh huh.

[@jamesjacob9632]

You have no authority to speak on fitness matters. Pavel has infinitely higher authority than you because he has shown some results and you have not. "It's not complicated and the people that want to make it that way are just trying to sell you kettle bells. " It's easy to do anything at a very simple and basic level, like your fitness advice, the problem is that things get more complex when you are after peak performance and injury prevention and rehabilitation.

[@fookustudios3279]

@@jamesjacob9632 blah blah blah blah blah

[@jamesjacob9632]

@@fookustudios3279 ok boomer

[@KT559]

Jeff Cavalier and the guys from Barbell Medicine need to be on here.

[@TheKyleRogers]

Kevin Taylor especially their approach to injuries, back pain, and cutting through a lot of the blogosphere misinformation. Great suggestion!

[@aronean]

Barbell Medicine and Jeff Cavalier view pain 180 degrees apart from each other. BBM all the way not that click bait shit

[@Monkeybrain6260]

or/and Mike Israetel

[@jasonchakroff3373]

That’d be two great shows. It’s be especially interesting b/c they both focus on very different populations and have different approaches

[@srthyrdyjhy]

Jordan Feigenbaum would wreck and debunk all of jeff's methods

[@restlessnation]

Basically do all three if you can. Off season lifting I do lots of body weight, kettlebell and moderate intensity barbell work. When it comes to peaking I do minimal body weight and kettlebell work while increasing my intensity on barbell work. My big three numbers are my primary but not solitary goal. If you want to look good, lift heavy weights, and have longevity in doing so you have to be well balanced, similar to the success of MMA by incorporating the best of various techniques.

[@LanzaMartineta]

I did three days of kettle bells, three 30 minute workouts following a You Tube video. I have been lifting for 30 years- I found myself gasping for air! I found myself floored at the end of it. First two times I did it I used 14, every where ached. Third time I went to 16 and I literally got into the swing of it. I felt like I was embracing it. It satisfied my need for weights but the swing hit the cardio button to. Great! Convert I think! But also my mid section (always my poorest body part) seemed to respond and it felt less painful than sit ups.

[@Mickster71]

Hi, which KZbin video.

[@IntuitiveCoachTheresa]

They are hands down the best workout on the planet. Far surpass traditional weights/cardio workouts. You will see fat loss, tightening up, strength and endurance gains with literally every workout. Every once in awhile I think maybe the grass is greener somewhere else, but I always come back to KB's. NOTHING get's results like them and for me they are WAY more fun than anything else.

[@stefanwolf8558]

@@IntuitiveCoachTheresa It's also great for combat sports. I do boxing, wrestling and BJJ and KB's are a great way to get in shape without hindering my skill workouts. If I use barbells or dumbbells, I'm often times too sore to able to do my actual sport workouts. Kettlebells - all the benefits without the soreness and wear and tear on your body.

[@NoName-fx9zi]

Kettlebells definitely show you where you are weakest, especially the joints and connecting ligaments. I got rid of so many arthritic issues since I started kettlebells 4 yrs ago.

[@aaronb2779]

@@IntuitiveCoachTheresa absolutely do not far surpass traditional strength and cardio

[@elbrito23]

The OG PAVEL! This man is real man. Taught the world the how to kettlebells. Thank you for the info!

[@thesaint8400]

Real men don't swing a useless gay weight around

[@mdusibisi]

I found this so fascinating.

[@AB-gz9yb]

Mduduzi Sibisi me 2

[@brewcity44panthers60]

Brilliant interview. Thanks.

[@IgnatiusCheese]

No ads Joe knows this is important 👊💪

[@MAUROtele]

Imagine this guy in conversation with john danaher

[@meowmeowone8479]

Shamien NEEDS to do the mad edits for the Pavel Danaher interview!

[@cshawn316]

Pavel, the man who brought kettlebells back into the spotlight.

[@youssafsu2307]

Yeah, and his forehead is the spotlight.

[@jayf2717]

Never thought i would see Pavel on Joe Rogan

[@troybond5426]

@JRE Clips man, good show 👍👍💪 I’ll be looking into the proper techniques in weight lifting with kettlebells. Please share more information on the best workouts with kettlebells! Kind regards 👍

[@pjwright82]

Damn, Joe is actually listening and not interrupting whilst Pavel is speaking.

[@MzsLadyT]

He's lost in his own reflection.

[@tallbass]

Joe is a master of knowing when to be quiet and let the guest talk.

[@rasmusrw8140]

Lmfao

[@DV-zv4ox]

Hahahahaha

[@kensei1972]

That's the weed not talking.

[@RBU98]

Anyone else keep coming back to this clip?

[@ItisTrippy]

7:35 about training and aging, amazing

[@leaningforward]

When Pavel isn't fascinating us about exercise and conditioning, he is attempting world domination through SPECTRE

[@harrisfrankou2368]

I thought he was Hydra.

[@Jjohnny642]

I started kettlebell training 2 weeks ago. Am I in a cult?

[@ripxrip]

@@Jjohnny642 cult without orgies is money wasted. So how is your training going?

[@blacksheepver69]

I'd love to see: 1. Jim Wendler 2. Ross Enamait

[@caseyfenton90]

Wendler sucks.

[@kettlebellmusclegain]

boom

[@kettlebellmusclegain]

@@caseyfenton90 ha why?

[@caseyfenton90]

@@kettlebellmusclegain Because he provides inadequate volume in his programming.

[@Robert-oq3ul]

Good ones

[@KickersOfEarth]

Pavel is the man, just ordered the beast and can't wait to upgrade my kb swings

[@conorm8]

He went the most roundabout way of explaining time under tension training at the end there

[@nicholasmaxwell9899]

There is so much paralysis by analysis constantly going on in the fitness industry. I think it's counterproductive. The best I ever felt was in the military, running a TON and doing bodyweight exercises. I was lean and wirey but STRONG relative to my weight. Who needs a ridiculously strong lower back? For what? I think SIMPLIFYING is the best option. If you're worried about being perfectly symmetrical, you're probably an insufferable asshole. I say just RUN A LOT and do a bunch of pullups, pushups, and squats/one legged squats. Other than that, eat well and focus on other things in life! Work on "gains" in knowledge and wisdom... CREATE. Learn art. Learn an instrument. Don't practice time-wasting narcissism by curling in a fucking mirror and worrying about your traps. BECOME WHO YOU ARE! Just my two cents 😉

[@RedEyes_95]

Yes

[@talesfromthetrenches9382]

This is spot on. I’ve been out of the Air Force almost 3 years, and I definitely felt much better back then. It’s crazy the results you get in 2 1/2 months of running everyday, body weight training, cutting out sugar and drinking mostly water.

[@nicholasmaxwell9899]

@@talesfromthetrenches9382 That's it!

[@nicholasmaxwell9899]

@danturbo316 needed for what???

[@Broxine]

Live Free Or die i know runners (allmost ALL of them) that have problems and then operations on knees... so much about running every day

[@Alexander_l322]

I'm so early their heads still shine

[@jhezy2000]

I like how he never said either was bad, and backed it up with facts with which one was best for what you're training for

[@killershootin6934]

Wow I'm gonna start doing those crazy slow sets now. This guy is great.