Abandoned, Locked Up Cockshutt 40 tractor. Can I save it?

[@EliseandDanchannel]

Put those sleeves in a bucket of Evaporust. Let them sit 24 to 48 hours. The Evaporust will not eat at the metal at all. It will only dissolve the rust. The pistons should come out easy. You could make up a tube from PVC pipe with a plug on 1 end and a treaded plug on the other end. Use a diameter that the sleeve will fit in and allow for a fair amount of Evaporust around it.

[@darrelbush762]

Fix it.. it’s worth it… I grew up on the farm with 2 “40’s and a “50”… loved them

[@arvbergstedt3303]

Pour some good penetrating oil on top of pistons. Let them soak for weeks. Turn sleeve upside down more rust breaker stuff. Soak it.

[@garyweber7419]

We have a Cockshutt 50 ' Cockshutt 40 ' Cockshutt 30' an a Coop E3 These are the first tractors I learn how to drive as a youngster .

[@ronaldlee2376]

E 3 & 30 are the same. one made in Canada, other in USA. I have an 30 & Manuals.

[@primer50]

I've found a small bottle jack , a chain and two wooden blocks are the best ways on these engines to get them unstuck in a controlled manner . Fill the cylinders with diesel and light it on fire once the fire is out wrap the chain around the bottom of the engine over the top place one block inside the cylinder on top of the piston, bottle jack and the other block on top of the jack against the chain and put tension via the jack .

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

That’s a good idea! I’ll have to try that out

[@TKM1951]

My Granddad worked the Cockshutt plant in Brantford Ontario . In all probability he was there when that ole girl was assembled The Cockshutt company was acquired by a British holding company which flipped it to the White Company . White shut the plant and moved production to the States . A lot of folks were left kicking stones , granddad included

[@ChristieFlood]

i met bill cockshutt in 2013 i had 40 cockshutts in athens ontario

[@brandontegan9665]

"I'm gonna cheerleader all that juice out of there".....I'm dead 😂😂

[@donaldpisle7500]

😊

[@nicklovell8148]

If anyone can get it going brother you can; and give the rest of us a very entertaining and educational journey in the process. Greetings from Australia.

[@gleanerk]

Stuck better than a hair in a biscuit. You’ll get it, I been watching you for sometime and know you have determination!

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Thanks Scotty! She will run!

[@rickfournier3413]

Until the government got involved on our industrial job sites we would make our own penetrating juice out of Acetone and whatever the cheapest auto trans fluid was . That slop would usually break anything loose . Very entertaining JT ! Thank you sir !!!

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Seems like acetone and atf is the best stuff! I’ll have to keep that in mind!

[@rickfournier3413]

Yup it really works , just have to be careful with the acetone and use good safety glasses or better yet a face shield .

[@CircleTFarms419]

Good job anyway , at least you cranked some good tunes , and got some cardio in 😂

[@douglasmayherjr.5733]

It will be interesting to see what happens next with the little tractor. You always have to be careful spending someone else’s money. Thanks for the videos.

[@SODAK2276]

Your persistence is inspiring! It's not a failure it's just a temporary wall!

[@terryhobdy5727]

Well no one can say you didn't try. I enjoyed the video.

[@gregreinhardt1293]

spend the time and money fixing it. makes great content and keeps another one out of the scrap pile

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

10-4! She will get a rebuild

[@JamesFales-t5y]

WELL DONE JOEY !!!!!!

[@Rebar77_real]

Valiant effort giving it a pull!

[@lunepilot2874]

Can’t see you giving up JT, your to determined.🇺🇸🇬🇧

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

I will win this battle 😆

[@joeldurheim5831]

Next time ,take a spark plug, remove the porcelain, weld in a grease zerk, make sure the valves are closed and start pumping. It’s easy and works every time…

[@DOffio]

Best concoction we came up with for freeing stuck engines was: 50% diesel, 25% ATF, and 25% brake fluid. Longest it ever took was about 3 months on a John Deere A that sat outside for along time.

[@northdakotaham1752]

It doesn't look like those two sleeves will be much good anyway...so probably new sleeves and pistons, bearings. BTW......the clutch is back in my 1805 and I have 12 hours on it, works just great! Thanks for your help JT!

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Great! Glad that is working! As for the 40, it’s getting a in frame kit 😉

[@zomaardan]

Wauw that is stuck with a capital S. Thanks for the upload JT. Im sick and you toke my mind of it for e bit, thanks. 😊

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Glad I can help! 😊

[@09amusement]

Fill the pots with Parrafin /kerosene and leave it to work it's majic. Regards 🇬🇧

[@jeremylarock2081]

Love your channel!! Great work on a budget!! In my experience with Cockshutt tractors though this one was probably running as good as it ever did at the beginning of this video. Never didn’t have to pull start/ rebuild points/ etc etc to make them run…and then even it hardly worked.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

We will hope for good things on this one! I don’t have much experience with these.. weren’t many in this area

[@jeremylarock2081]

@@jtsbarnngrill6873 well if anyone can get the old girl running you will!! Keep up the good work!!! We didn’t have many around our neck of the woods either but somehow we ended up with one. Lol.

[@mikenicholas5218]

The tractor is straight, it would be a shame to part it out. I vote rebuild, but I don't get a vote.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Your vote counts… rebuild it is!

[@johnwesner3935]

Hey JT, that thing is kicking your ass!😢 Been there!😢 My brother-in-law used ether to try and help start a beautiful 62 Rambler he got from his grandma. I got it after the engine stopped turning over. Never saw this before but the piston pins froze so tight that I had to pound them in alignment to pull them out the top! That tractor may have been in the shed for thirty years but it was the five it stood outside with the exhaust stack open!

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Yes! She was definitely outside for a stretch of time. 😉. I’ll save it nevertheless!

[@brapperdan9554]

Sno bol toilet cleaner. The hyrocloric acid eats the rust around the rings. It works..sometimes

[@erlingnorheim6714]

You`ll never give in on that tractor engine, simple as that.Keep on!👍 😄

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

10-4! Rebuild to come!

[@stevemccoy8138]

You need a press.😊I'm sure you will be VICTORIAS.

[@ronaldlee2376]

For future use, Mapp Gas burns much hotter than Propane. Mapp is what we used in plumbing & home projects.

[@billkroczyk3749]

Not telling you what to do but they have this stop called fluid film stuff is amazing

[@jeremycherny2041]

Cool. My buddy bought a cockshutt 40 in the same condition. Broke the engine free and got it running. Ended up putting it on a water pump moving water to an oil rig and made a 1000 dollars a day for 3 weeks. I swear he has horse shoes up his butt 😆

[@daddywoofdawg]

hydraulic press and press the piston out.or a new sleeve and piston?

[@stevefarms7494]

I have one tractor it runs but I no one day I have to get new sleeves and pistons... But it seems that you have everything to pull the sleeves so if you enjoy doing it and if you want to invest in it and you have the tools then I would.. ..

[@dshepp8]

I used diesel and marvel mystery oil both works great for locked engines just leave sit for good while oh and kerosene works as well.

[@johnfugate3432]

Well it still made a good video that things was locked tight

[@trkfarmer4926]

Cheerleader all that juice out😂😂😂😂... never heard that one before! Can I steal that? 😂😂 this is a challenge that got personal. You have to be all in now! Good luck!

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Feel free to use any of my funnies 😆

[@donrainey199]

Run it to good machine shop.. 200 and let them get piston out.. put back together and it will run nice.. for 800 to 1100 have head and valves done.. it will be better than new.. good luck and keep them coming

[@christinamoneyhan5688]

I certainly don’t think it sat in a barn from the looks of that mess.

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

What works great if you put that sleeve in boiling water with soap or your choice of cleaning solution. Works pretty good for unsticking stuck things.😂

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Boiling water crossed my mind. May try that as well

[@johnnymilliron8387]

Well you give it a good tri

[@davidtanner4020]

Easier to find a buda 262 out of a gleaner combine. They swap right in!

[@tomholley5464]

Convince him to major that jewel

[@swallowinn4410]

Hello JT. As you said your in pretty deep, but a shame to not hear the old unit cookodoodle do. So to speak. I noticed you were not driving the piston with the sleve on a very solid support. It looked like a concrete block on a plastic milk crate. Put the sleve and piston in the freezer, or suround it dry ice until thoughly cold. Use a hard wood block if you can get one, I use an Ash block. Place sleeve and piston on a solid concrete floor and play whacamolie with a 15 or 20lb sledge hammer. (A soft wood block takes too much snap out of the impact and usually disintergrates.) I have never had this fail to get the piston to move. They were not all serviceable after removal ( most were) but it is not serviceable now so not much to lose. At least you will be able to salvage connecting rod and probably the wrist pin. Good luck looking forward to seeing the battle continue.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Thanks! At this point I just need to save the rod. We’re gonna do a in frame kit on This one!

[@AndrewHCann]

Excellent video JT :) what year this Cockshutt 40 this with BUTA Motor 235 Cubic Cm 6 cylinder motor 43 hp with 60 or 90 torque also 6 volt positive ground and 60 amp Generator! Those tractor built in Brampton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 how I know those tractor my late Grandfather Bill Cann Sr bought brand new one on 1950 was made on 1 month - 18 day - 1950 for $4,000 Canada dollars! Also my late Uncle Bill Cann JR was age 16 drove back to farm east Toronto Ontario in place called Perrytown north of Port Hope Ontario Canada in 8 days in April 1 to 9 of 1950 ! Plus my dad Don Cann and Grandfather Bill Sr followed him in 1950 Caddy GM car Lol ! I remember the tractor on farm one grew was same one Grandfather Bill , Dad , Uncle had for 80 years together from 1918 to 1997 ! In 1957 my uncle Bill and Don (Dad) bought of Grandfather Bill and his wife Ruby my grandmother! Sold farm in 1997 in 1993 Cockshutt COOP 40 gas tractor the motor seized up because number 3 and 4 cylinder bearings in Crankshaft from gears on oil pump and distributor broke in bearing seized up ! No motor could find for Buta 6 cylinder 235 Cubic Cm check worldwide USA an Canada plus we tried pull with another tractor to! So sold for parts and fix up another another Cockshutt 40 COOP gas tractor and one fix up guy did with old we had farm! But have heard Chrysler (Dodge) truck 235 6 cylinder motor were optional motor for those in 1951 to 1955 bolt up no problem but put wing mounts front end of motor to and in near oil pan bolts front to ! Yes those Buta Motor powerfull when running and hear running think Oshkosh 6 cylinder of Oliver tractor or a Farmall Row crop A to H basic tractor sounds on nice purring sounds! Fun to maintain up too and serivce too! If need more information about ask me in not sure about them ! Hopefully this tractor got crank wand to wind up this should be on right side below carb near manifold on near Generator if there!

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Thanks! I believe this to be a 48? I didn’t look at the serial number but I thought Matt said it was. Sounds like your family has a lot of history with these!

[@AndrewHCann]

@@jtsbarnngrill6873 how found year on head on spark plugs 3&4 middle of left side be like 1-18-50 stamp on of hot metal type in square box !

[@AndrewHCann]

Yes first Cockshutt tractor was 35 loader type with 6 cylinders Buta Motor gas and never saw on farm grew up was gone before I was born years before too! Also my one uncle has Cockshutt 20 row crop

[@AndrewHCann]

Uncle John has Cockshutt 20 Row crop type has 4 cylinder motor gas funny one easy to start up on cold or hot starts one twist on crank on Crankshaft with 1/4 choke plus throttle to ! She ready go in 2 minutes of fire up !

[@waynemclachlan6480]

No comment , I'm lost for words 😒 ... You tried 💪

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Best I could do. Now for the rebuild kit

[@tomchaplin4372]

use your 4x4 tractor as a press . stand both liners on hard ground , lower the tractors weight on the 2 piston s , should pop out

[@notajp]

What has worked well for me is Marvel Mystery Oil…

[@gn5673]

I've been helping a buddy restore his 40 with the Allis engine. His engine was not seized but every bearing in the transmission was bad as well as just about everything else on the tractor. We've been at it since Sept. of last year. Contact Phil Heisey for parts if you get to that point. Good luck

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Thank you! Will do

[@brocluno01]

To nice a tractor to go to scrap. So it'll have to have some sort of in-frame. Bernzo torch prolly not strong enough. Before you'all go buying a kit, how about a rose bud oxy torch and get those sleeve a bit hotter. Then maybe hammer against a fitted base block for the sleeve ... Got some hardwood around and hole saw?

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Yes and yes. In frame kit in the works and one way or another those rods are gonna be free of those sleeves and pistons

[@jamesyeo2947]

Excellent video as always, its surprising what a little persistence can do. hello from across the pond🇬🇧

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Hello! I am not quick to give up!

[@robertkidder174]

If you put it in a press, just be careful when it comes apart.

[@jefmiller9057]

Did you tape this awhile ago? It's been 80 degrees in east central Wisconsin this week. The lawns are all dried up. I'm having heat stroke just looking at you with all them flannel shirts and sweatshirts on. LOL!

[@northdakotaham1752]

I was thinking the same thing! Hovering around 90 degrees for a week here in ND and next week more of the same!

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

This was stretched over several weeks. I was hoping the cylinders would free up. I pulled the head three weeks ago.

[@karlfischer1011]

Remembering tractors stored in my brain... i think on the cockshutt you can put any power plant you can dream of with it's own clutch as long as you can figure out a chain coupler to match 🤔

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

That has crossed our minds…..

[@derekadams729]

Should replace all pistons and sleeves. Make it right.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Parts are ordered. 😉

[@eaglebill3738]

I personally would like to see her running again but it's not my money. Still would be cool to see it run.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

It will run! In frame kit coming soon!

[@eaglebill3738]

@@jtsbarnngrill6873 Great news! I do like the idea of using Mrs. JT's oven as well, even if only to see what her limit is.😂Thanks for the great straight up videos JT.

[@jerryglassmeyer2853]

The cockshutt model, 40 and 50 used the Alice Chalmers D 19 gas engine in them.

[@northdakotaham1752]

I have that D19....six cylinders, runs smooth as silk! Lots of power. Also have the turbo diesel version. First U.S. production turbo diesel tractor.

[@northdakotaham1752]

The front axle on this 40 looks just like the one on my Golden Arrow.

[@stevewbeards]

Gotta see it run now that you started it. Hopefully parts arent too expensive.

[@farmerbill6855]

Know anyone with a real torch and a press? Those sleeves are worthless now. You may be able to just buy two sleeves for that engine. That's what I would do. Best regards from Indiana.

[@andrewkeith8577]

Amazing what can be done with Fergie 165 a hammer and a milkcrate

[@garyfeltus9801]

I would go with new sleeves an pistons and bearings if your friend wants to go that deep in to it. Or just replace the two sleeves. Be cool to see it run agrin .

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

He decided to go with a in frame kit. It’ll run!

[@northdakotaham1752]

That's what I would go with also....only thing is, you really don't know what shape the transmission is in until you get it running. At least the sheet metal all looks pretty good.

[@timbertrans]

Find two used pistons and sleeves. There the same as a 30

[@jeepanimal2943]

Freezer. Then wrap in a warmed blanket. Lots of oill on the piston. Steel liner should expand before the piston. OR, slow cook in trans/brake fluid. Stopping for a breather from the project is not quitting. It's reflecting on what to do next. Or sometimes, "how the H!@l did I get into this mess?" You'll get her JT. We trust ya.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Right on! I don’t give up that easy 😉

[@adrianchetwynd1334]

If getting new piston and liner why not use a grinder to slit the liner length ways. (To recover the rod)

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

Had a cockshut 40. Engine was no good. Rebuilt it and put it on a 24t John Deere baler because of the live pto

[@troybankey1766]

Nice 40 I have four of them plus 40 golden eagle, what serial number on cutch side frame rail,fix it Phil Heisey in pa has parts in stock .

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

I will check and get back

[@bertil83]

give him a thumbs up for a good vid🙂

[@metalworks2765]

you need too cook them in a oil bath over some fire then they loose up

[@ardtessa]

Liking the music JT ! The farting, well, at least I can relate to it hahaha

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

😆

[@SchnelleKat]

hey JT nice too see this make it on the channel. Got a question for ya. Know anyone who does Heavy hauling? i bought a combine but can't find anyone who has a lowboy to haul it back to my place (40 miles). Thanks

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

I never have good luck getting anything real heavy moved. I’d see if you have a local excavating company near you. I’ve had one move my 7520 John Deere years ago when I got it.

[@SchnelleKat]

@@jtsbarnngrill6873 oh it's only 4500-6k but it's main problem is it's a oversize... About 9-10ft wife by 11" 8' tall on the ground! Lol the height control goes up another 3-4 feet.

[@farmerbill6855]

40 miles? Drive it. A good Sunday project.

[@SchnelleKat]

@@farmerbill6855 we can't lol. They're not meant for barely two lane roads and it's a project anyway. It has an engine with hard to find parts .

[@ronzezulka6646]

Coca cola. We freed an F20 that way.

[@Mustardoable]

What size are the front wheels and tyres on the 165? Looks like a good upgrade over factory the pizza cutters

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Those are 11L15’s. They do float nicely compared to the 6.50-16 that were on it

[@Mustardoable]

​@@jtsbarnngrill6873 Thanks a lot! I'll have to hunt down some rims any idea what offset they are / what the rims are off etc? Will help float the front for sure, it sinks pretty bad with the FEL on it (my 165 has the AD4.203 Perkins) got a 135 and a 35X as well so can relate the the Ferg sickness haha. Really enjoy your vids, thanks for making them.

[@ChuckGeorge-s9j]

If you used Kroil. Pour into every cylinder. Let it set then start to rock it

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

I had kroil in it when it was together. Was not in the video. The outcome was not a free engine lol

[@Ford7710]

You could cut the sleeves off with a grinder and get new ones.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

That’s probably what’s gonna happen. We’re doing an in frame, just have to save the rods

[@michaelhuffer9966]

Rebuild this tractor 😊😊😊

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Will do!

[@jimryan5724]

Stay at her she will free up

[@allynthompson5587]

Toe it backwards in high gear it works every time

[@wesleyharding7544]

Try to figure out a way to but them in a press.

[@JohnSmith-lw2bm]

Video starts in winter, when 2 jackets needed.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

That started in early April 😆. Was hoping it would just free up lol

[@rickhall4318]

fix it!

[@GarethPierce69]

Keep trying dude… but isn’t knocking it down into the cooler, tighter part of the sleeve a bit of a lost cause?

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Well, I can only smack it one direction lol. Looks like weee gonna replace everything on it, make it new again 😉

[@CaryGuyer]

Love your channel JT, I'm a true Massey man at heart. As far as delving into Cockshutt tractors, over the years they have taken on a somewhat otherly name with a little different spelling.... Cock#%$* er.... Nice project tractor though if you want to put the time and money into it.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

This one is too straight to let go! We’re going to do an in frame rebuild on it, maybe even some paint

[@knothead8251]

I had an old case tractor that i got for nothing, it ran perfectly until I changed the oil now it run likes**t

[@paulprillwitz9901]

👍👍👍

[@johndeere-jh1pd]

Time to restore the 5010

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Coming very soon!

[@richardpeoples2887]

Find an engine from a Gleaner Combine

[@prevost8686]

👍

[@thomasr.miller5553]

Well .....this is another fine mess you got us into . I should have see this 4 months ago . CUT THE SLEEVES .....SAVE THE RODS its not rocket science . Worth a total ground up restore .

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

True. But it’s not my tractor. I will be cutting the sleeves to reuse the rods, with new sleeves and pistons. Didn’t think it was rocket science in the first place, but thanks for that anyway.

[@PaulRose-tx2ti]

My dad had a 40

[@pippaul4279]

Your co............k got bent grill😂 .keep up the good work .

[@ronzezulka6646]

Yep,,,not good.

[@karinadler2308]

I'd put money into it

[@glennschlorf1285]

Last words..... well I got 4 that need to be loosened up

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Right! Four is better than none!

[@glennschlorf1285]

@@jtsbarnngrill6873 no I got 4 of my tractors that are currently stuck engines... 1 Farmall C, Farmall H, MM ZA, and a John Deere B

[@richardschaffling9882]

I watched a guy who uses vinegar to eat the crap out and unstick a engine I have used liquid wrench

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

The acid in the vinegar would have helped. I’ll keep that in mind for the next one

[@tonystulken6650]

You might as well bring an oliver home know

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

If I find a 2255…. 😉

[@tonystulken6650]

No a 77 standard diesel 😂

[@randybrechbiel9748]

LS swap it and make a hot rod

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

I got a friend that is dying to LS swap a tractor 😀

[@tonybunch543]

I don’t believe you will not do whatever it takes to get her running, I’ve seen you tackle much worse.🤦‍♂️

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

I will be victorious 😉

[@chadtosh6831]

If the women don’t find you handsome, they will at least find you handy 👍🍻🤣. Lol. Push that old girl back into the bush row. Hahahaha. Have a good week.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

Ha! Maybe she finds me handsome and handy lol. We’re gonna do an in frame kit on it! She will run yet!

[@jeffhack6839]

That is from the Great Canadian Red Green!!! Cheers.

[@jtsbarnngrill6873]

My favorite Canadian actor 😉

[@karlfischer1011]

​@@jtsbarnngrill6873 ✋ wait! ACTOR? I thought it was all real 😅🍁

[@chadtosh6831]

@@jtsbarnngrill6873 that’s an option too!! Lol….. I’m sure I’ll watch either way.

[@narisse89]

i belive in you u u will sort it

[@lukeduffy2158]

Torcher 😂😂😂

[@billphelps6960]

Try cola coke