I am a Kashmiri Pandit and my mother personally knows Achint and his family. She also immediately called her friend (Achint's sister) as soon as she saw this. The acount that Achint has given is NOTHING compared to how horrifyingly his father was assassinated. He was tortured the entire night (with cigarette butts etc.), his house was surrounded by Islamic terrorists and his father was later found in a dry well the next day. He was so young when this happened and my mother recalled everything as soon as she heard what I was watching! I am absolutely shattered by how some people did not let him talk about his viewpoints. This Middle Ground video represents the political situation of the country very well nowadays and how absolutely DIFFICULT it has become to express viewpoints and even state facts. At the same time, I am nothing but PROUD of Achint and the way he spoke. He was an absolute gentleman, so soft spoken and my heart cries for him because he was surrounded with such insensitive people. THIS IS EXACTLY what infuriates Kashmiri Pandits in this country. I am glad we still take our space, even though exactly like some people here would not want us to do that.
@leehuimang51172 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing his story
@shubhankar31642 жыл бұрын
Saddening
@RiddhiVines2 жыл бұрын
This comment should be pinned.
@catsy13022 жыл бұрын
more power to all kashmiri pandits out there❤🌹
@rubabm26372 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much for sharing his story and it doesn't mean a lot but I want to apologise for the behaviour and reactions to him sharing some of it. My heart goes out to him and his family.
@myas-39952 жыл бұрын
If Achint had been a Muslim and his family were the victims of the assassination, would Ali still have said “it’s not my problem!”? We are so used to wanting to see one community as being victimised that when perpetrators come from that community we lose all balance and objectivity. I lost interest in this discussion when Achint’s lived experiences were completely dismissed and turned into something else and diverted by attention seeking Pallavi
@gc-yt66272 жыл бұрын
I think what he meant 2 say was u can't "expect" another Muslim to apologise for what another has done. So he didn't have to apologise but out of respect he should have gave his condolences. As for that politician, this is why some of jubilees videos r crap. Why would u bring a politician to a middle ground talk
@dayyanahmad1172 жыл бұрын
Well he was right that all Muslims should not take blame for this but yes, he also sounds rude to me. If anyone is facing discrimination, violence, we should all raise our voice. It's inhumanity to say "that's not my problem"!!! If anyone is taking about pakistani pandits, that doesn't mean he hate Muslims or blaming indian muslim for it.
@gc-yt66272 жыл бұрын
@Khartikeyen Satheraman what r u talking about
@myas-39952 жыл бұрын
Apologising and being apologetic are 2 different aspects. Feeling apologetic does not mean that you directly caused a problem but you feel remorse and shame for what happened to the other person. I find it strange when Pallavi started discussing about how Hindus should apologise or feel remorse for Mosques being burnt. Why should a Hindu who has not caused a Mosque to burn be made to feel apologetic? The rules change when it’s the other way round isn’t it? Double standards much 🤷♀️ A middle ground can only ever be attained when a community is objective and is able to introspect within rather than solely celebrating victimhood. If someone from your community makes a mistake or commits a crime in the name of the religion that is wrong and that action would have ruined someone’s life so yes be apologetic about it and condemn what that person from your community did. That is the mature, objective and truly unbiased way to deal with sensitivity.
@darkpanda2392 жыл бұрын
@@myas-3995 bang on!
@NEETASPIRANT-ho3jh7 ай бұрын
They have got 1 billion Hindus but all they found was Pallavi
@Ashutoshsingh-lp6bz4 ай бұрын
dollars kitna mila hai 😅😅😂 not only in this debate in bollywood, ads, all over the society 😂 but they don't able to stopped sanatan dharma after their all efforts and Yes they have not courage to invite real hindu who know all knowledge of 4 veads 😅
@ShashankaPappalaАй бұрын
hahahahhahahahha
@v.vijaybalakrishna161215 күн бұрын
Bro...she is not a hindu....it reflects some thing else... saying she is hindu....I hope u get what it is reflecting in her
@aniket_barma15 күн бұрын
Shee married with muslim boy and she also accepted Islam
@SSJOMI12 күн бұрын
@@aniket_barma that says it all.
@Not_a_poet6 ай бұрын
1000 YEARS OF COEXISTENCE WOW I didn't know oppression, genocide, and slavery is termed as coexistence
@lumiant28826 ай бұрын
What genocide?
@QuickCuriosFacts6 ай бұрын
@@lumiant2882 the kashmiri pandits?????
@lumiant28826 ай бұрын
@@QuickCuriosFacts They didn't face a genocide, it was an exodus.
@xlr8_bs5145 ай бұрын
@@lumiant2882 It was a genocide followed by an exodus. It was the most brutal genocide in India since 1947.
@lumiant28825 ай бұрын
@@xlr8_bs514 80 deaths is not considered a genocide.
@user-ic4od1ym3l2 жыл бұрын
“None of my business. Not my problem.” The most insensitive thing a person can say sitting in front of a victim. Achint, no words for you loss. You and your family is a victim of hatred of Kashmiri muslims on Kashmiri Hindus. This shouldn’t have happened. It is the combined hatred of one community on another that made this happen, it is not one person’s doing.
@thecrimsondragon97442 жыл бұрын
The irony is that this attitude of 'not my problem', from people on both sides, is the problem. Not my problem is a problem.
@raghavnamasivayam50982 жыл бұрын
@@thecrimsondragon9744 It's the muslim community that says that
@k.w.44202 жыл бұрын
Right, I understood the idea he was trying to present but it simply wasn't the time or the way of doing it.
@weshouldsaveourselves67802 жыл бұрын
@@raghavnamasivayam5098 youre the problem. youre the reason we are having these discussions because youre so stuck up in the divide and wanting to remove islam from India. of course its not only muslims who say its not my problem, its hindus too, its all people who are too insensitive and heartless to care whether thats in the irish english violence etc etc.
@ayesthatix2 жыл бұрын
@@raghavnamasivayam5098 just a single person doesn't represent the entire community..apart from Kashmir the rest of India is peacefully coexisting with each other.the problem is in the kashmir not in the faith of Muslims.the govt and media should focus where we are lacking in making kashmir more peaceful rather than blaming the whole muslim community for what is happening there or have happened
@bmwjourdandunngoddess60242 жыл бұрын
The way they were dealing with that man’s trauma makes me real mad as a Black person. What if a white person did that to them about racism? They’d be mad pressed, it makes my blood boil.
@lioness58382 жыл бұрын
Welcome to India. And , if we retaliate we r the oppressors. This is what a hindu faces when he/she talks about their suffering. Even our community's genocide is not reported .
@divyanshsinha10452 жыл бұрын
Black thinks that they were the most persecuted and exploited race in world ,once they real about the history of Indian Hindus ,their sufferings,their sacrifices ,their persecution ,the islamic invasion and the the cherry on the top the British Colony for more than 200 years the blood will boil at more than Sun 🌡️ temperature , The most persecuted race in the world are HINDUS 😔😥🙏🏻 ,Still we are tolerant towards all the people ,still they target uss ,
@internetuser47592 жыл бұрын
@@divyanshsinha1045 bro hindu isn't a race
@nkk_232 жыл бұрын
@@divyanshsinha1045 divyansh this isn't oppression olympics we have all been exploited in terrible ways
@sobhi14232 жыл бұрын
@@divyanshsinha1045 bruhhhhhh didn't British killed millions of Indians regardless of there religion
@sans_19932 жыл бұрын
Ali at the starting of the video: "Hindus got killed by muslims, so what? I don't care, not my problem!" Ali minutes later: "yes muslims are being killed, and I blame the government for it." Pallabi throughout the discussion: " I will personally take offense on behalf of all the muslims, and you can not stop me!"
@bemymellow98422 жыл бұрын
Pallavi was only doing this all cause she wants to convey to others how government is dividing both castes. It's all political, which I think should not be the correct topic to talk about here. Since she came to discuss about Hindus and Muslims she should have talked about that and not basically showing her opinion that everyone went downhill SINCE 2014.
@kh-fk3ko2 жыл бұрын
It's not his fault though, it is however the governments job to stop both people from doing that from one another.
@lifeanddeath30722 жыл бұрын
That's Muslim for ya
@kh-fk3ko2 жыл бұрын
@Alexios I Komnenos they can, they just brown. We brown people treat each other like crap. If it isn't someone else it's within ourselves based on what caste you're in or which region you're from. That's why our situation is so bad. Look at how Europeans treated an invasion into Ukraine.
@vybs92352 жыл бұрын
@@kh-fk3ko I don't think you should talk on a topic if you don't have the correct info about it. Its literally only the Hindus and Government's fault. They literally torture the muslims bro, the muslims never did anything to them.
@Shawn_mike345 ай бұрын
Girl in red is a Muslim now. She did a nikah.
@abhi.ku24325 ай бұрын
Are you sure??
@Shawn_mike345 ай бұрын
@@abhi.ku2432 definitely. Nikkah can only happen between 2 muslims.
@mustafaabdirahimmohamed95783 ай бұрын
@@Shawn_mike34 are you Muslim?😂 and how do you know abt her marriage or if she did a Nikka because I think so your talking rubbish
@electraheart28232 ай бұрын
@@Shawn_mike34not really,
@Shawn_mike342 ай бұрын
@@electraheart2823 you saying "not really" to look cool but it's far from reality. Nikah can ONLY happen between 2 muslims
@jaspreet03052 жыл бұрын
Achint is the only person who has suffered due to this hindu-msulim rivalry. Achint is the only person who was talked over most of the time. That's a great reflection of how we're dealing with this problem.
@niceperson19852 жыл бұрын
True. That hindu girl is also the best example of the indian left i have seen. Blame the victims for the problems and then leave the pot boiling.
@dracarysgirl20482 жыл бұрын
Why she didn't say "thanks for not blaming hindus" when zarah talked about her problems? Thats when she realised that she should sympathise 😬😬
@अण्वायुवरीवर्त2 жыл бұрын
She doesn't know anything and wants to work on issues without understanding of the actual events. She was ignorant Ngl.
@arun35682 жыл бұрын
@@अण्वायुवरीवर्त yeah no one does, except those claiming cow dung will save India
@अण्वायुवरीवर्त2 жыл бұрын
@@arun3568 many people do know but they are not the ones controlling the society.
@omnium_gatherum2 жыл бұрын
"Not my problem" Ok that was insensitive as fck
@aaryakulkarni22222 жыл бұрын
Precisely why there was no point of this video.
@Atilla_the_Fun2 жыл бұрын
@@aaryakulkarni2222 There were other people in the vide too??
@aarusong162 жыл бұрын
But his perspective is different right? If in UP mob linching is happened. Then its totally wrong. But I'm as a hindu, i don't feel responsible becuase i haven't even do pr think such thing justifiable. But why should i explain to society? Yes that is insensitive to tell this in front of someone who affected due to this. That is indeed. But guy's perspective is also valid.
@omnium_gatherum2 жыл бұрын
@@aarusong16 hopefully you realize I never said anything against his overall perspective. I'm referring to a specific thing he said. However, since you went further, I'd have to say I disagree with where people think they have no responsibility to be part of a positive difference, especially if they belong to a group that throughout history has been a source of violence. It's honorable when someone chooses to be a part of changing that. Looking the other way, in a sense, makes you a part of the problem does it not? As far as him saying he isn't a part of the hate, yeah I get that. But what he said, what I specifically mentioned, was a pretty messed up thing to say regardless
@vedantdubey23162 жыл бұрын
yes!! we can easily dodge any question saying that
@kaceobrwa70392 жыл бұрын
inviting a politician to talk about political issue , sums up the credibility of this channel
@madhavmathur40082 жыл бұрын
like she is just a wannabe liberal
@scrubs30502 жыл бұрын
I am literally shocked, just found out she is a spokesperson of the INC, no wonder
@12pack2 жыл бұрын
who..? was a politician
@sameulroy27572 жыл бұрын
@@12pack pallavi
@12pack2 жыл бұрын
@@sameulroy2757 lol wtf no doubt now i understand why she is inclined
@AshishBabar848 ай бұрын
"I'm not afraid of Muslims, I'm not Afraid of Britishers, I'm afraid of Hindus against Hinduism" -Veer Savarkar 🙏🏻
@Kamlesh-tt6sz7 ай бұрын
He was afraid of britishers first of all, he wrote multiple maafinamas, second he did coalition with Muslim league, third he is afraid of Hindus against extremism of hinduism(hindutva)
@sage.eclipse7 ай бұрын
this is a beautiful quote that shows how people go against their own religion just to be hateful !!!
@AshishBabar847 ай бұрын
@@sage.eclipse not to be hateful, to show we are not hateful (it's deep, see if you it)
@HarshKharwar-jp6nf7 ай бұрын
@@sage.eclipse Muslim (lslam) dangerous for humanity. 🇲🇲Muslim vs Buddhist 🇨🇳Muslim vs atheist 🇮🇱Muslim vs Jews 🇮🇳Muslim vs Hindu 🇮🇶Muslim vs Christian 🇮🇷Shia vs Sunni Peaceful community ❤
@Tarotaro23-k5r7 ай бұрын
@@AshishBabar84 true. also known as virtue signalling, giving an illusion of being selfless by all means or logic.
@harisadu89982 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely disgusting of Jubilee to include Pallavi on the programme because she is Pallavi Sharma, an Indian National Congress spokesperson. It is highly inappropriate to include politicians on a discussion between people who are supposed to be laymen.
@saloni4952 жыл бұрын
Also she is so condescending
@rhythmdew89282 жыл бұрын
Does that discredit her as a strong Hindu woman who advocates her believes so promisingly?
@zaidkhanna2 жыл бұрын
@@rhythmdew8928 Yes, because she came with an agenda, her political agenda and not as an individual representing Hindu faith and beliefs. This is part of narrative building right here.
@ShivamSingh-cz8th2 жыл бұрын
@@rhythmdew8928 Yeah she was consistently saying that the divide has happened after 2014 for her all the bad things has happened after 2014 I was also thinking why she is always targetting the government now I get it
@rhythmdew89282 жыл бұрын
@@ShivamSingh-cz8th it's absolutely possible for one's personal beliefs to line up with their political beliefs. If she think the 2014 govt did something wrong, she's allowed to say it. If you don't agree with her, that's allowed too. My point is the other comments just blatantly tagged her a muslim which I think is not fair!
@sumigarcia10592 жыл бұрын
I am not even hindu and can clearly see that Pallavi isnt deep in to hinduism, she is clearly fond of her husband's side(islam). Both Pallavi and Ali were obnoxious in the way they attack people in the group that doesnt go with what they believe in. The both of the them has potrayed a bully mentality in my opinion.
@shubhankar31642 жыл бұрын
you're spot on
@pratikb81312 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, Kabir won hearts.
@captainlevi71882 жыл бұрын
@@pratikb8131 absolutely not...he went onto say "are we settling scores right now?"
@krishnamante222 жыл бұрын
100%
@aahana49312 жыл бұрын
@@captainlevi7188 right like the lack of empathy,kashmiri pandit issue is being used as anti muslim propaganda by the Government but saying that to a victim
@_bellersss2 жыл бұрын
as a Muslim myself, the way Ali approached some of the questions with a lack of empathy was so disappointing especially after Kabir was acknowledging Achint's loss. Being sorry for someone's loss does not mean they're taking responsibility, just showing respect
@2ksnipa3552 жыл бұрын
Dude said “As a part of the Muslim community I am sorry for ur loss” like bro is acting as if the Muslim community is responsible and not some crazy individual
@2ksnipa3552 жыл бұрын
@Rakshita Singh ok and regular people in America commit murders that are all Christian but no one says “I apologize on behalf of the Christian community.” Just because some psycho claims to be Muslim and kills doesn’t mean the community is responsible. Ali is 100% right and the most sensible on this casting. I do agree that maybe he could have showed a little more empathy but his logic was better than everyone elses
@thvf23812 жыл бұрын
@@2ksnipa355 this!!
@ishantrana80032 жыл бұрын
@@2ksnipa355 well Achint's father was killed just because he was NOT a muslim ...and whoever killed him was perpetrating the crime on the basis of religion so when the crime is happening on the basis of religion then why not apology should happen on the same basis...and he said as a muslim he was sorry he didn't say i am apologizing on behalf of the whole islamic population.
@msr73732 жыл бұрын
That’s true Ali did sound harsh
@Fingrelatable8 ай бұрын
"hum toh majority hai" no girl you are no longer a part of the majority. May you find peace in the fridge.
@mohakjain58023 ай бұрын
hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@abdullahshahid9052Ай бұрын
40+ fridge cases hindus 😂😂😂
@itr824727 күн бұрын
@@abdullahshahid905280+ muslim cases.
@laxmikapoor256314 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@khushalthakor815313 күн бұрын
😂
@nanditadas63322 жыл бұрын
Should have put a Bangladeshi or Pakistani Hindu and seen what they had to say. It willl blow yalls mind what we've been through and how little media rep we get
@mudita44492 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat very much agreed
@nanusingh22782 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat 😁 Another Libru. Who don't want to see the difference between facts and ideology ( of a cult).
@sunnyroy28182 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat itna easy nahi hota to leave ur house and everything u built in pakistan and bangladesh, not every hindu is rich like u
@nanusingh22782 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat As expected a lone soul roaming in comment sections😏. You didn't understand our Hindu brothers for sure most of them. And I don't Think so HINDUS near by are abrahmics or religious who have strict code of reading scriptures. All indians who read indian scriptures.. Or dusra ke chodo time kharab hi karoge.
@AK-db2ph2 жыл бұрын
@Shubham Rawat No, u missed the whole point. India is secular because of hindus. If muslims became majority kashmir exodus events would be more frequent. We have already seen how even an educated muslim put their religion ahead of national and secular interest.
@suvi18122 жыл бұрын
The way they sidelined achint's trauma is so sad.
@silverkittyzen2 жыл бұрын
I hated how they were all just silent when they came to sit down. It's one thing to be tongue tied but how did NOBODY even say 'I am sorry for your loss'? And when Kabir eventually said it he was criticised! Saying 'I am sorry for your loss' is NOT the same as taking blame!!! It's a way of expressing sympathy!!!! When Ali said 'Not my business, not my problem' I wanted to kick him below the belt.
@spd10002 жыл бұрын
This is what happens with Hindus & still Other side Is projected as PERPETUAL VICTIM
@dev_peace_soul2 жыл бұрын
@@silverkittyzen leave I use to trust jubilee but now I understood its all Propaganda
@comet67402 жыл бұрын
It was awkward and no one knew who should speak first. I think they did well. Could have been much better but at least they didn't completely ignore it.
@rezamohammed97782 жыл бұрын
@@silverkittyzen how? he said it as a formal apology on behalf of the community. they all should’ve said im sorry for your loss, but at the same time, none of them are to blame for the death. meanwhile, some of the other people were denying the facts and sidelining the experiences of muslims such as the sacrifice. if you are fearful of death when it comes to tradition, there is clearly something really wrong. so please don’t criticize the muslims without critizing the hindus for denying that muslims face discrimination. i agree with you that the trauma is real, but you have to look at everything from a broad sense
@shree7112 жыл бұрын
Guys, Pallavi Sharma is a politician. She's an Indian National Congress spokesperson. Her opinions are agenda driven and it is highly unfair to include her in this discussion which is supposed to be among laymen who have their own opinions.
@juice84312 жыл бұрын
Bruh if this is true I am pretty disappointed in jubilee. Usually, their content is pretty spot on but this time it seems they havent done their research well. Might have been due to their lack of understanding of this country but still.
@vedantdubey23162 жыл бұрын
exactly!!! this is my point
@Tate5252 жыл бұрын
This is an integrity issue, they have brought an outright politician on the show driving the agenda. I'd even tolerate Ali to some extent as rude as he is, he is speaking his own mind and not some agenda, but I won't tolerate that thotweiler sitting among them, she barely let even the Muslims speak let alone Hindus themselves.
@kunalmandhare31442 жыл бұрын
@@OkarinHououinKyouma Views like Pallavi are exactly why Congress is not winning elections. This has been said by various research institutes and think tanks having a neutral orientation.
@nischaltyagi86722 жыл бұрын
True, patani is pappu ko kyu bulaya
@Lightsaber-zm1zx5 ай бұрын
"nikah" she converted to Islam, it is not a fair debeat
@ShashankaPappalaАй бұрын
hahahaha its 2 Hindus vs 4 Muslims again not a fair battleground. What a shame!!
@Mooksha-i2x10 күн бұрын
It's not fare debate 4 mudlim, two victim card , 2 hindu
@KingKong-z4v9 күн бұрын
You should made a debate all Hindus than it will be fair you.😂@@ShashankaPappala
@ShashankaPappala8 күн бұрын
@@KingKong-z4v Are you for real? Do you exist in real world? No wonder, I would love to not meet you in person, I pity those who have to live in your surrounding :P :P
@aggressive99996 күн бұрын
Correct
@diyasen94702 жыл бұрын
'Are we settling scores?' As a Hindu , this was disturbing. Hundreds of temples have been destroyed since antiquity but as always, Hindus are expected to endure. Kudos to Mr. Achint for not bowing down to hatred. Peace.
@chaitanyabuilds2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I don't wish them to be remorseful as they had nothing to do with it. But, they should atleast acknowledge this issue. But she just tried to deny it altogether.
@sakshamtyagi96522 жыл бұрын
Hindu agnostic 🤡 yeah I'm a Marxist liberal
@diyasen94702 жыл бұрын
@@sakshamtyagi9652 Sir, Hinduism is not just a religion. It is a cultural identity, quite like Judaism. An atheist or agnostic person can still be Hindu because Hinduism gives us the liberty to choose our beliefs. Thank you.
@lbell96952 жыл бұрын
I'm a hindu agnostic too - don't really believe in hindu mythology but I believe full heartedly in hindu (advaita) philosophy
@kunalmandhare31442 жыл бұрын
@@sakshamtyagi9652 This is typical of people who do not read enough about a specific topic and then jump to comment. Hinduism has different school of thoughts, Instrinsically even a nasthik (atheist) is a hindu (not just for name, but it is a school of thought within hinduism), None of the Abrahamic religion have this particular concept.
@BigMan1112 жыл бұрын
Honestly Achint and Kabir are the only two people who are actually having a proper conversation. The others speak irl as if they were on twitter
@studyhard7539 Жыл бұрын
Can't people start to protest to have huge worlds best hospital with huge modern equipments in ayodya where people are fighting have ram mandir or mosque...bro we are going to madir or mosque to prey for health can't we make that holy land thats claimed by both hindus and muslim be life saving place to both religions and create employment.
@VeganSanatani Жыл бұрын
@@studyhard7539jihad and mujahid are not Hindu concepts my friend..if they are Willing to start it, we are going to end it
@explorer06311 ай бұрын
@@VeganSanatani let's see who gonna win in the upcoming battle
@VeganSanatani11 ай бұрын
@@explorer063 we have already won.. Look at the election results
@debodatta739811 ай бұрын
Real title should be "Can North Indian Hindus and North Indian Muslims See Eye To Eye?" Because this stuff would never happen in South India, here we all live together as INDIANS not muslims or Hindus first. and never against each other like these people are.
@tryingtobebetter53822 жыл бұрын
This only shows how insensitive people are towards hindu suffering. Why did vandalising350 temples in Kashmir pushed under a rug while babri is still hot topic?. That achint suffered so much but instead of being sensitive towards him they became hostile.
@mr.perfect10676 ай бұрын
Why we suffer all the time let others suffer
@Raghav-nb1of8 ай бұрын
What i am seeing is that the Hindu girl having a muslim husband and her parents not liking her husband,created a view of her husband people as victim and the side of her parents as the aggresive
@mr.perfect10676 ай бұрын
Her patents should keep her away....if they really following hindusm...
@dustudent16375 ай бұрын
@user-nh5pt3jn1g Her perspective is wr;ong then. And everyone knows which com;munity is cru;el all around the w;orld which is no;t hin;ddu.
@lakshitavyas38413 ай бұрын
@@dustudent1637 very true !!!
@alefiya_2 ай бұрын
@@dustudent1637 Thats exactly what they meant when they said not to regard the whole community for the act of a part of its people
@dustudent16372 ай бұрын
@@alefiya_ N;ope.
@jackbest88422 жыл бұрын
I am impressed with Achint's patience and Kabir's patience. Especially Achint considering his past.
@dampmaky2 жыл бұрын
agreed, much respect to them both
@RatherA2 жыл бұрын
Lol what past? He’s lying to his teeth. Kashmiri conflict is solely political not religious. More than 80,000 Kashmiri muslims have been killed by Indian military since 1990s while only 89 Kashmiri Hindus were killed by militants mostly for being associated with Indian state and at the same time more than 3000 Kashmiri muslims were killed by same militant group for working for india
@rohitbhardwaj39262 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA source?
@erikalenoeye89252 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA you can clear your beliefs by watching videos about kashmiri pandits gen*cide
@dracarysgirl20482 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA why would he lie? And what source do you have before you came here crying?
@bhawesh72682 жыл бұрын
Secularism summarized in India... Entire Hindus are responsible for Babri Masjid Demolition... But when we talk about 450+ temples demolished in Kashmir we are setting scores...
@tiktokasylum51862 жыл бұрын
@Vibhor Srivastava nonsense the literally president is connected to a genocide
@yourcryptobro02 жыл бұрын
She never said entire hindu community was responsible for it, she just said one wrongdoing cannot justify other. Talking about secularism, we should be secular in our thoughts if we want to coexist. There is nothing wrong in being secular.
@lifeanddeath30722 жыл бұрын
@@yourcryptobro0 secularism in Saudi Arabia? Pakistan? Syria? Iraq? Afghanistan?
@piyushgour49282 жыл бұрын
Kasmir is not hindu muslim issue you andhbhakt.. It's more separatist and border issues
@yourcryptobro02 жыл бұрын
@@lifeanddeath3072 bro, what is the need to bring those countries? We were born in India, We will talk about India. I dont support those countries at all. They aint even democratic countries. I would never want to go to such countries.
@disgruntled.pelican53242 жыл бұрын
Zaarah is right about it being easy to talk about these issues in a safe space like this with a group of seemingly upper class well educated lot. Doing so in the real world is more complicated.
@cutedummyd75212 жыл бұрын
a whole lot more. it's actually so deeply ingrained in the minds that people don't wanna even consider that they're wrong. people like my parents- _sigh_
@pnut3844able2 жыл бұрын
It's only complicated if you make it such. For instance, I'm an atheist and don't care who knows it. I refuse to be judged or let someone try and shame me for it.
@taichai53462 жыл бұрын
she barely talked-
@krisanthonysilveira82442 жыл бұрын
It's not easy having such conversation in a normal setting with your friends as anyone can turn hostile very soon
@pnut3844able2 жыл бұрын
@@Zdaren dude, they're speaking about their culture in another country. They're gonna have accents. Deal with it smh
@mananmanukaran8 ай бұрын
Leaving Pallavi and Ali aside everyone else were reasonable. Achint, Kabir, Chinmay and Sarah are the common people. Their fears are true and they can live together, but it's for ignorant people like Ali and agenda driven people like Pallavi where things get really ugly for common people. This video is a whole summary of what's happening in India.
@avn33__446 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Hindus are being potrayed all over the world as the opressors of the minority class. But I am sure that so many of the Hindus will never agree over declining the rights of any other minority and help them grow n develop when we see them around us, be it in schools, clgs, workplaces etc. But still the narrative is being pushed in a way that shows such Hindus dont exist(as I mentioned above), I do condemn the extremist Hindu class and we dont support them at all. Why anybody doesn't wanna talk about these Hindus as well. Our and country's image being ruined all over the world
@percyweasley93015 ай бұрын
Agree
@adweitaspams20 күн бұрын
100% agreed. people like ali and pallavi create problems. the rest of the lot are like us and want peace SO SO BAD.
@sksammy33032 жыл бұрын
This vedio highlights the basic mentality which creates a divide. You can always find liberals such as Pallavi on Hindu side who get ultra agressive defending others and then on other side there is no moderating liberal and more over the most open minded perspective you can get is that of Ali "It's not my problem"
@morningsun83872 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from Pallavi. She is a congress spokesperson. Obviously she would try to carry out her propoganda. Congress mostly is anti hindu and pro muslim.
@alimurtaza63182 жыл бұрын
Yeah pallavi and Ali were really rude and insensitive, I like Anchint,kabir and zarah. The other hindu guy barely spoke anything cuz of pallavi taking up all time and Ali "that's not my problem"
@khushalthakor815313 күн бұрын
Yes she doesn't want to debate by hindu side she is just pretending and claiming by saying we are the majority and as a hindu by birth There is a big difference between wanting to be hindu and just having birth as a hindu She is just wearing a mask of a being hindu
@Samira_m843 күн бұрын
Could it be because the overwhelming majority of the victims are indeed Muslims and not Hindu? Smh
@saloni4952 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is a politician....why they have called a politician??
@kinjalroy24192 жыл бұрын
Which party?
@saloni4952 жыл бұрын
@@kinjalroy2419 Indian national congress
@kinjalroy24192 жыл бұрын
@@saloni495 that's why Congress is always losing elections 🤡
@Power0P79492 жыл бұрын
@@kinjalroy2419 😂 true
@tejas42562 жыл бұрын
That’s why congress losing elections😂😂
@kavyajaswani18012 жыл бұрын
Pallavi was representing the hindu side just because she was born in that religion and not because she wanted to.This is not fair to put her up from hindus side.
@executorben98002 жыл бұрын
seems she was representing Muslim side
@jobwesleycoxjr51032 жыл бұрын
She's hindu whether you like it or not
@clarie84862 жыл бұрын
@@jobwesleycoxjr5103 ur weird
@jobwesleycoxjr51032 жыл бұрын
@@clarie8486 Weakest. Comeback. Ever.
@clarie84862 жыл бұрын
@@jobwesleycoxjr5103 idc 😑😑
@VINAYJAIN-yy7wk8 ай бұрын
her saying that there was no proof of having a ram mandir was so absurd i mean at this point you are questioning the most supreme and respected body that is supreme court of india and yeah she is literally mindwashed if she is a hindu which she is absolutely not
@nipunkumar1617 ай бұрын
absolutely
@mr.perfect10676 ай бұрын
I heard she is a spokeperson of muslim congress
@nikilkvn5 ай бұрын
She is married to a Muslim.. she says it at the begining
@hiteshkashyap_am225 ай бұрын
@@nikilkvn yes and this is the reason I think
@faisalkhan55395 ай бұрын
still no evidence? and you guys are being hypothetic
@tejasvirana99232 жыл бұрын
i’m absolutely disgusted by how insensitive Pallavi & Ali were towards Achint’s father’s death. i think Pallavi was speaking more about muslims & from their side and instead of sharing her opinion, she was just trying to get others to agree with her?? this would’ve been way better without Pallavi.
@theeternal68902 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse
@Abhishek-hs8zi2 жыл бұрын
She is muslim pretend hindu
@ronak1937Ай бұрын
We cu*ts let the do it to us
@gigilolo4660Ай бұрын
She is a politician. Congress party's spokesperson.
@ayartleague760716 күн бұрын
Why do you people always try to play a victim card? 😐😐
@parnakundu61402 жыл бұрын
I love the moment when Kabir explains Chinmay's point in a better way and Chinmay goes " This guy understands me so well. " Isn't that all which matters concerning the current scenario ?
@wafajamal37202 жыл бұрын
ikr...that was wholesome
@tej9027 Жыл бұрын
True that was so wholesome
@TedEhioghae Жыл бұрын
Stop acting as if Islam is not evil.
@shivitiwari3705 Жыл бұрын
@@TedEhioghae no it’s not dude
@peace8655 Жыл бұрын
@@TedEhioghaeno it's not
@3minsofhorror7982 жыл бұрын
Maybe I sound crazy but I wish these were even longer. Like 45mins to an hour. This is hands down my favorite series on here to watch. It’s really deep and informative. I’m hooked.
@sakshamtyagi96522 жыл бұрын
Fr like other videos have 6-7 questions and this had only 4. Although the discussions were more elaborate and detailed. Otherwise there are too many cuts.
@longlivesparkles132 жыл бұрын
hopefully one day do release uncut versions too!
@cacspathshala35542 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is not Hindu, she is herself atheist and Anti Hindu.
@saucenado48442 жыл бұрын
@@cacspathshala3554 no one cares stop spamming
@Snowy2652 жыл бұрын
Agreed, with topics discussed and the people involved, it was way too short.
@Flying_Spaghetti_Monsterr7 ай бұрын
If you're inviting a Congress spokesperson, you should be inviting a BJP spokesperson too. This is not fair at all. She had the agenda all along. Shame on you Jubilee !
@ArushiSharma142 жыл бұрын
To be honest I don't think Pallavi was here from the Hindu side she was here from the anti-BJP side. More than she represented Hindus and their ideologies she criticized the govt for everything.
@suyashneelambugg2 жыл бұрын
You realise the whole debate was organized by an arm of lef-media kabal? So this was obvious.
@saurabhsharma75222 жыл бұрын
Exactly.. Bc uske ghar wale khatam hogae usko tolerate hone ka gyan pel rahi h... Desh bat gya do bar.. Abhi bhi Ashanti h....Kashmir ko alag krne k lie khade hojate h... Agar Muslim marega to poori community ek hojaegi.. Kashmiri pandit mara to bolta h ali humse kya matlab ... Ye to haal h ... Or unsab k bad bhi tolerate hone ka gyan de rhe h...
@Comrade_Harsh2 жыл бұрын
True
@Rehan-i22 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@anuragtiwari41514 ай бұрын
Someone married to muslim can't be hindu
@theanm15872 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a middle ground with Pakistan and India, as someone with parents from either country
@anujpramanik18192 жыл бұрын
How interesting. I'd genuinely love to hear how did your family come to be.
@manasmishra72192 жыл бұрын
Imagine watching cricket
@deeppatel15832 жыл бұрын
I have friends from Pakistan and we have a middle ground discussion ever time we meet. We watched cricket together peacefully which is a lot to say.
@Quinn22 жыл бұрын
My roommate is from pakistan and her boyfriend is from India (I'm from US). Until living with her, I had no idea just how much tension there was between the two countries! I'd love to learn more about this
@bullseye69692 жыл бұрын
There arent any Hindu left in Pakistan, so how you are going to do that Mr.?
@morningsun83872 жыл бұрын
I was very disappointed that Jubilee casted someone with a political background(Pallavi- spokesperson of congress). Political people can never be true. She is just carrying out her agenda. Also she is married to a Muslim.
@k_26_kashifahmed882 жыл бұрын
You do realise they have had people from political backgrounds countless number of times before. Sometimes even the spokesperson of the very issue that they are debating.
@lobhasdhuri65662 жыл бұрын
Who?
@morningsun83872 жыл бұрын
@@lobhasdhuri6566 Pallavi.
@nctsgrass2 жыл бұрын
@@morningsun8387 which one is pallavi?
@jv31982 жыл бұрын
@@Xcvbn3355 lol you don't know anything about hinduism.
@VikashSharma-bj5ok8 ай бұрын
I think the girl (pallavi) blaming government that everything happens wrong because of the government after 2014.
@TheAnekKotha6 ай бұрын
Cause she is congressi😅
@VaibhavPandeyvibhu4 ай бұрын
Because She is Congress Spokesperson 😂 Shame on Jubilee.
@amitgangwar39964 ай бұрын
I think she haven’t lived in a Muslim majority area.
@sumitpandey38124 күн бұрын
She is a librandu
@saichander43372 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is the only one sitting there and objectifying Hinduism. Feeling the loss and experiencing the loss hits you totally different, Kabir and Achint big salute to you brothers your maturity speaks.
@demonslayer3683 Жыл бұрын
Objectifying Hinduism is fine but selective objectivity that she illustrated is seriously annoying. You can easily feel like she wants to highjack the conversation and wants to superimpose her thoughts on others. She spoke like what she thinks is the ultimate truth. Her tone was also quite different from others.
@rohitgajwani Жыл бұрын
musalman se shaadi ke hai usne kya expect kar sakte 🥲🥲🥲
@harshilgala9402 Жыл бұрын
@@rohitgajwani prospective shradha lol
@anmoldarjee3162 Жыл бұрын
@@demonslayer3683 it's not fine, if done other way around will u say the same
@hokage774 Жыл бұрын
bro she isnt objectifying the religion cmon dont be like those BJP people. She said what Indian archaelogical evidences proved that there is no proof or whatsoever that Ram was born there, she didnt say it she just narrated the records of indian archaelogical department and to be honest It was intentional move by bjp to say that they really hate muslims and other hindus should too because they took the birthplace of ram, this is agenda
@zarlashtstanikzai9552 жыл бұрын
As an Afghan Muslim, it was heartbreaking to hear about Achint's past but it was absolutely infuriating to listen to people's reactions to that. Like how hard is it to empathize with someone who has had to ho through something as painful as that? Kudos to you Achint for your patience and for not hating us Muslims. Respect. Edit: No longer responding to the comments. Thank you but I'm not going to engage in further identity wars.
@swetasinha22942 жыл бұрын
Thank you for understanding dude
@user4002 жыл бұрын
fellow afghan muslim!
@zarlashtstanikzai9552 жыл бұрын
@@swetasinha2294 👍👍
@zarlashtstanikzai9552 жыл бұрын
@@user400 ❤️🇦🇫
@Aloksharma-oe1gm2 жыл бұрын
I am indian and in my college there are many Afghani studying engineering , we love them a lot . The time was hard for them when Taliban took over but we tried as much to make them feel home . I LOVE AFGHANIS SOO MUCH
@jonathanmichael36092 жыл бұрын
I would love a conversation just between Kabir and Achint. These two were the most humble, looked beyond prejudice and spoke intellectually, but got the least chances to speak.
@Yahoo1213 Жыл бұрын
Either remove pallavi from this debate or add ex muslim in this debate that would this debate fairly.
@sandhyadewda3750 Жыл бұрын
@@Yahoo1213 fr
@hey_you. Жыл бұрын
@@Yahoo1213 exactly 💯
@reyaning Жыл бұрын
@@Yahoo1213 ex Muslims are no longer Muslims, would it be fair to have an ex Muslim there but no ex Hindu?
@reyaning Жыл бұрын
@@Yahoo1213 watched the video for a little longer and I kind of agree now, pallavi isn’t an ex Hindu but it feels as if she is closer to science and other religions than her own
@NationalSecurityGuard1086 ай бұрын
Population of Sikhs in 1947 in Pakistan: 20 lakhs Population of Sikhs in 2024 in Pakistan: 30k Population of Sikhs in 1947 in India: 60 lakhs Population of Sikhs in 2024 in India: 3.8 CR They're reduced to 30k from 20 lakhs in Pakistan, Increased to 3.8 cr from 60 lakhs in India.
@infiniteeva35694 ай бұрын
Same goes to hindus as well bro. Hindus in Pakistan 1947 is over 20% but now they r less than 2%
@sachin74882 ай бұрын
reproduced data like ur mother did to u? lol
@itr824727 күн бұрын
Sikhs in pakistan are like 8000 not 30k
@ShortHax2 жыл бұрын
For both religions, life is like biryani. One cardamom and you’re done
@amadortv9712 жыл бұрын
I'm confused s
@amadortv9712 жыл бұрын
Is cardamom as a spice not allowed in either religion?
@aaditya49542 жыл бұрын
@@amadortv971 no 😂 but when you bite the cardamom it ruins the taste
@Chainsaw182 жыл бұрын
Well said lol
@disgruntled.pelican53242 жыл бұрын
@@amadortv971 haha nope. It's small ball-like spice that is actually necessary to give the biriyani flavour. But we put the cardamom as whole cloves so when u accidentally bite into it, you get that pungent flavour that overrides the overall taste of the biriyani.
@tryingtobebetter53822 жыл бұрын
When I studied in mumbai in school i remember one of my troubled classmates who had to change schools due to psychological reasons. She was elder by few years and her uncle and mother tried hard to make her fit . She was very apprehensive and wouldn't talk. Few years ago connected with her on Facebook . We chatted and turns out she is super friendly . I asked her why was she soo weird in school and what i heard has broken my heart . As a young child her father , her uncle and grandfather were chopped and thrown in a well and she and her sister was molested and rape. The twin sister couldn't survive because her orifices bled and got infected .her mother and aunties faced similar torture with her aunty dying due to internal haemorrhage and mother gangraped. It was a miracle how she and her mother escaped and reached Jammu to her mamaji. She was soo traumatised that for years she couldn't go to school . She started 4th grade with us after long break in mumbai where her other mamaji lived . We always felt she was too tall too fair and too older than us when we were kids and she was picked up a lot by bullies but hats off to whatever she survived
@Technology-of-You2 жыл бұрын
horrible 😲
@rudrakshasaraf21972 жыл бұрын
Me hun pallavi :me ek chinaar hun or mera pesha hai ki bjp or hindu ko neecha dinkhao kyu mujhe hypnotise kr dia gya ek muslim ladke ne isliye me ab raNdtv dekhti ho or quint jese channel ko follow krti or apne modern ke nam me secular ki aad me mulla se shadi bhi kr leti hun ye hun pallavi chinnar randi Kesi lagi me doston apko Me akeli nhi hun mere jesi or bhi jese barkha dutt 😇
@ju_kh_ak81382 жыл бұрын
@@rudrakshasaraf2197 my blood boils when I see women like PALLAVI.
@rudrakshasaraf21972 жыл бұрын
@@ju_kh_ak8138 bhai maaf krna sab mujhe ek ladkiyon ke liye mere liye bhaut ijjzat hai magar esi ladkiyon ko dekh ke mujhe pta nhi kya ho jata hai musalman hai dushman i know but ye jo ghar ke dushaman hai inka kya karein bolo or sala sabse zyada iske vo ladkiyan hai jo freedom ki baat krti hai magar inhi ladkiyon ko burkha me rehne ka bhi shauk hai kaha ki hypocracy hai first you ask from hindu ki mujhe skirt or chote kapde phen ne do fir uske baad tumhe burkha phenna hai kisi mulle ka bolo bolo randiyan bolo pallavai rannd kuch toh bol
@tanushidubey49812 жыл бұрын
i hope she's okay now
@stannisbaratheon57632 жыл бұрын
Shame on you Jubilee, bringing a anti-hindu politician to represent the Hindu community. It was just a forum to bash those 2 hindus & make them feel bad about their indentity. Anchit having the most traumatic experiences was shut down & belittled that's so messed up.
@animesvt12342 жыл бұрын
Exactly, my blood is actually boiling after seeing this video. All she said was fabricated and lies. Hate Jubilee for doing this
@felidaesaremoresuperiortha58552 жыл бұрын
anti hindu? u pindus want to be discriminated soo bad.
@stannisbaratheon57632 жыл бұрын
@@felidaesaremoresuperiortha5855 Stfu you bigot go do your homework. This woman is an opposition politician who's job is to spread lies & hate for the majority community & tarnish the image of the country. Were you born yesterday? Don't you know how politics work.
@felidaesaremoresuperiortha58552 жыл бұрын
@@stannisbaratheon5763 politics work? arent u still livin in ur moms house arguing with ppl.
@pP464572 жыл бұрын
Pallavi has the sirname 'Sharma' which is also a hindu sirname. But as she married a muslim and and has issues with the religion she was born in, she should change her sirname, to a muslim sirname. She's also a part of a very hypocrite political party here in India INC, which pays less attention to religious rights of the majority religious group here in Indian .
@THOMAS_SHELBY4348 ай бұрын
Muslim in minority:- democracy. Muslim in majority:- Sharia law.
@xtremejagy59597 ай бұрын
Why do hindus flock to nations with sharia law then???
@soumyadeep_3657 ай бұрын
what do u know about Sharia law ? I hope u have read about it in the Qur'an? because u have already commented on it !!
@pranayraj22537 ай бұрын
@@soumyadeep_365 most hindus in pakistan wiped by sharia people.
@AlaaAli-qf6zw7 ай бұрын
What do you know about sharia law?
@AlaaAli-qf6zw7 ай бұрын
@@soumyadeep_365 I didn’t reply to you fam tf!!!
@sallysimpson772 жыл бұрын
A very one-sided discussion imo. Standing up for Muslims is considered progressive and empathetic, while stating facts about atrocities against Hindus is considered fascist and regressive. True representation of today’s “woke” culture. Especially the Pallavi chick is so disappointing to watch
@ArmanAlam-il7fw2 жыл бұрын
"atrocities against hindus" such as?
@darkpanda2392 жыл бұрын
@@ArmanAlam-il7fw the Kashmir ethnic cleansing, the mopla massacre, persecution in Pakistan and Bangladesh
@sobhi14232 жыл бұрын
@@darkpanda239 What ABT lynchings in india and there is no current genocide of Hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh or kadhmir
@sobhi14232 жыл бұрын
@Rakshita Singh Bruhhhhh do you know That in Bangladesd those goons are arrested .... millions of Hindus live in gulf muslim countries that are safe there
@Pradyumna-e8r2 жыл бұрын
@@sobhi1423 Why is gulf always bought into discussion? Millions of Hindus over there are workers, not citizens.
@arusha05162 жыл бұрын
Hindu or Muslim, Pallavi is the wrong pick for this video; listening is key to finding a middle ground.
@tejasvirana99232 жыл бұрын
i absolutely agree.
@shoeb4342 жыл бұрын
She made fair points, as did others. I don't clearly understand why did she/her words get under your skin. I am not Indian, but it seems this might have something to do with her being vocal of what's happening in India post-2014.
@tejasvirana99232 жыл бұрын
i mean, she stated false historical records & as soon as Achint mentioned the record of temples demolished in kashmir, she and the other guy were like “so we’re keeping records now?” (Various materials have been found during excavation which suggest the presence of a Hindu structure beneath. Also, The Supreme Court noted that the Babri Masjid was not built on a vacant land and the excavated underneath structure was not Islamic in nature)
@shoeb4342 жыл бұрын
@@tejasvirana9923 The other guy did not say "so we're keeping records now?" He said "are we settling scores?" Settling score is an English expression which means entirely different thing than keeping records. Someone had done you wrong, and you are doing him wrong now in return is "settling scores". On to your point of excavation: If there is a Mosque in place, how come you could excavate there. You must demolish it first to see if there is anything else underneath. Isn't it?
@tejasvirana99232 жыл бұрын
@@shoeb434 and obviously, everything in our history is noted so it is important that we mention the “scores” the amount of times Hindus have been exploited is just depressing and I know that people from all religions live here peacefully now but it still hurts us because of all that our ancestors had to go through & YET WE ARE SUFFERING.
@Tejas_2 жыл бұрын
The only Kashmiri Hindu in the room and they manage to shut him up. Also they didn't mention in that little text that the Kashmiri Hindus were forcefully converted and killed/kicked out of kashmir for the international viewers who may not have the complete view of the situation.
@RatherA2 жыл бұрын
What fairy tale are you talking about
@ydl5892 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA tum logo ko reality fairy tale hi lagegi Khud jo ek fairy tale me ji rahe ho
@fMONA942 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA it's called reality my friend.
@ratanshukla39002 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA get educated before countering facts...
@yeagerists63022 жыл бұрын
@@RatherA go and educate yourself and cry somewhere else
@manjuchandra20005 ай бұрын
Pallavi is not Hindu now, she is married to a Muslim.
@ѕуєям2 жыл бұрын
Pallavi's and Ali's behaviours were legit making my blood boil. Well Idc about them but I'm really happy with the others behaviour. They were so polite and kind and they were actually speaking facts. Lots of respect for them.
@peak_911 Жыл бұрын
"they were actually speaking facts" lol title is wrong "Can indian hindus and indian muslims see eye to eye?" What about opinions of hindus in pakistan and bangladesh?
@abhaysardar2275 Жыл бұрын
@@peak_911 this interview focused on india.
@rt20089 Жыл бұрын
@@peak_911should be done I'd say. I'm from Bangladesh and I'm seeing how Hindus are being discriminated against by the majority Muslims. the situation is even worse in Pakistan sadly
@abhinaysingh8306 Жыл бұрын
@@abhaysardar2275why don't they make for pakistan and bangladesh? do you know condition of hindus of pakistan and bangladesh?
@starlightseeun7 ай бұрын
omg ru a kpop stan? i see sugaaa on ur pfp!
@dotsanddash80832 жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgusting, how the Kashmiri pandit was shut down just for saying the truth, “are we settling scores ?”, no remorse, for the genocide of Kashmiri pandits,the thousands of temples destroyed and mosques built over.
@writerchick942 жыл бұрын
What was the point of his comment if not settling scores? His detractors said those things happened and were terrible. They also pointed out that the destruction of temples doesn't justify the destruction of masjids. Both are bad and should stop.
@itr82472 жыл бұрын
@@writerchick94 If a mosque was built on a destoryed temple, it should be returned to a temple.
@suhan63902 жыл бұрын
Same hindus did with Sikhs in Delhi in 1984..
@writerchick942 жыл бұрын
@@itr8247 He wasn't referring to that masjid. He was referring to temples in Kashmir. I'm also not sure why Muslims of today should suffer because of something Muslims of the past did (i.e. building a masjid on top of a temple). There is a middle ground that doesn't result in continued suffering on either side. To do otherwise is just settling scores.
@siddharthyadavchekkala28452 жыл бұрын
@@writerchick94 Hindus are not asking for every destroyed temple to be returned They are asking only 3 temples tk be returned. Having mosque on that site is also illegal in Islam.
@CombatHD32 жыл бұрын
yo pallavi is the reason why inc should be banned from politics
@baghyasrib69292 жыл бұрын
I think people like Pallavi are the reason why Congress is so weak and will never win. I mean.... she's still living in her own dream land. She had to wake up and smell the coffee. The hindus have woken up and are demanding equal treatment. And ignoring the reasons for the rise of hindutva will just make things harder for INC.
@CombatHD32 жыл бұрын
@@baghyasrib6929 Facts
@anushkapawar86802 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@BeingStoic0868 ай бұрын
rehne do ..only brown sahebs are voting that party
@thelunatiKАй бұрын
Facts
@Ancient-rr2zq6 ай бұрын
Bring some Bangladeshi Hindu and muslims or Pakistani Hindu or Muslims in this show ( as a Bangladeshi Hindu I want to see it) India is more safe for minorities than any other country in the world Btw here I think 4 Muslims vs 2 Hindus??
@Joeler4354 ай бұрын
Bangladesh hindhus are as safe as Muslims in North India
@fakeaccount7042 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is not letting others talk. She loves the sound of her own voice
@jaidaisthequeen56332 жыл бұрын
Vio
@niceperson19852 жыл бұрын
If she did let him speak then she would have realised how wrong it was
@dracarysgirl20482 жыл бұрын
I bet her kids would be Muslims too.
@dracarysgirl20482 жыл бұрын
Babri masjid is built on the ruins of our temple
@user-rx6wv4eb8x2 жыл бұрын
@@dracarysgirl2048 yes.
@deepalil10852 жыл бұрын
I could relate a bit to brother Achint's pain. During 1992-93 Bombay riots my uncle's hand was cut , he was 14 years old boy and other relative was murdered. We don't hate Muslims but there is mistrust. I cannot imagine Brother Achint's trauma. Sorry for your loss. May we have peace.
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
muslims have suffered too if not more
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
@Lil Omii that simply isnt true, especially considering the bjp and how Muslims are the minority and the situation in Kashmir but okay
@prism79902 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx BJP has done more to benefit the Muslims than any other govt so far. Scholarships, grants, reservations, triple talaq abolition. Hindus have suffered disproportionately more than any community in Indian subcontinent, just see the situation in Pak and Bangladesh. Acting like victims all the time when you are the biggest perpetrator community.
@Bzdm02 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx I don’t think the person is meaning to say that one community suffered more than the other. They probably mean they had bad experiences which make trusting people difficult for them on a individual level.
@timepasstubee2 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx y'all are only the minority in India but you're the majority in the whole world. Be thankful and let people of other religions live in peace. Since y'all are following the *so called* religion of peace.
@tanya25bh2 жыл бұрын
I think Ali and Pallavi were kinda rude when achint was talking about his trauma. Achint experienced his father being assassinated first hand. I cant even imagine going through it. Respect to kabir for giving his condolences and being apologetic even though he didnt have to be.
@ashilyjustin47482 жыл бұрын
Pallavi was extremely radical !!
@anshikab222 жыл бұрын
@@ashilyjustin4748 exactly
@heylo50302 жыл бұрын
Pallavi was a terrible representation for the Hindu community, I’m sorry.
@007swarup2 жыл бұрын
It's was unfair ,4 muslim representatives and only 2 hindus (ps- people like Kabir is a gem)
@OROgoldenpair12 жыл бұрын
It was kind of insulting. I'm pretty sure he didn't need to be spoken for, yet they did anyways...
@vedantjoshi17146 ай бұрын
If Jubilee brings Congress spokespersons to the debate, I want J. Sai Deepak and Anand Ranganathan to be on the show as well. That will be fun.
@Joeler4354 ай бұрын
Who 🤣🤣🤣
@bhavnajalalbisht27212 жыл бұрын
There's a imposter among us 1)Pallavi Sharma is from Congress she is a politician who is obviously anti bjp 2)She has given several anti-hindu statement before that and it was evident which side she supported on this debate How is it fair to include her from the hindu side
@VivekTiwari032 жыл бұрын
Jubilee, or at least their Indian team, is a woke channel and they specifically chose these woke fellas to make a point. That's what they do.
@ankershiv2 жыл бұрын
So anti-bjp is anti-hindu? bhag bsdk.
@vedantdubey23162 жыл бұрын
@@ankershiv those two are seperate points. he did not mentioned "as" or "because"
@MdAnwer-iz6im2 жыл бұрын
Bhavna Jalalbisht Not a single she ever made ever anti hindu statment, stop lying.
@vedantdubey23162 жыл бұрын
@@OkarinHououinKyouma ture af
@rafaelsays1752 жыл бұрын
Education is key. As both Hindus and Muslims live in close knit multi-generational families the discussions in households over the next two decades will define India’s future.
@mirayoon19922 жыл бұрын
💯 agree and I feel bad for them when they were being divided🥺🙏
@vasudhasharma55322 жыл бұрын
More than education in general… awareness/teaching/intermingling between the two sides. Coz I have seen highly educated people who have been in their respective silos, still having prejudices.
@metanick18372 жыл бұрын
Do schools and colleges actually teach us to not to hate other community..I've never seen something like that in a book.
@BeastMaster-gc5zg2 жыл бұрын
@@metanick1837 I did in like 7th standard. In civics there was this thing about tolerance. Sadly, you don't have the capacity or maturity to grasp that concept when you're that young. When you do get older you're in 11th 12th grade where those subjects don't exist
@metanick18372 жыл бұрын
@@BeastMaster-gc5zgBut do they teach us about the limit of Tolerance..Imagine you watch your parents get absolutely beaten to death...will you just watch them getting murdered to show that you have Tolerance or will you do something..?
@prajwalupadhyay133 Жыл бұрын
It was never a 3v3 convo to begin with but rather a 4v2
@ummedsinghmarue-57988 ай бұрын
agree bro
@MahirSingh-mu6eu8 ай бұрын
@Byteminds-gd2je was seventh person inivisible?
@sreyaar51998 ай бұрын
@Byteminds-gd2je what?? there were 6 people only. did u watch the video first?
@harshkumar-uo1vc8 ай бұрын
Agree
@justsomeguywithoutagirl49568 ай бұрын
That Pallavi is from congress. Of course she is gonna speak against BJP and everything related to it. She is the worst candidate here
@abhisheksrivastava42368 ай бұрын
Hindus only believes in power of arguments but other side believes in power of swords, that's why we lose against other side.
@l-go5rn8 ай бұрын
Hindus have attacked mosques, churches, *not synagogues (one positive, probably cause the Jews were surrounded by mostly Christians and Muslims). It’s not allat innocent
@Question-xk6wi7 ай бұрын
@@l-go5rn see pakistani hindus and how they are living there before commenting on us. You cult people always criticise other but infact are worse.
@Joeler4354 ай бұрын
We saw that in the comments hindhu have become more radicalised
@tempjadho4 ай бұрын
@@Joeler435 how?
@piyushpandey32559 ай бұрын
Sorry Pallavi but Ram mandir is already inaugurated 😅
@shradhashukla57076 ай бұрын
lol 😂😂
@rahuljagarwal1534 ай бұрын
Secularism summarized in India... Entire Hindus are responsible for Babri Masjid Demolition... But when we talk about 450+ temples demolished in Kashmir we are setting scores...
@Tanusri.1114 ай бұрын
@@rahuljagarwal153 uncountable Hindu temples are destroyed in Pakistan Bangladesh, Hindus are tortured there but no one in peaceful community says a word about this
@Chicgirlneedatoknow3 ай бұрын
@@rahuljagarwal153 before mughals invade India,even after invading it India is a hindu country. So that means you must've demolished a hindu temple and built a babri masjid. Now hindus demolished and rebuild the temple in it's original place... I don't understand how can you people say it's a masjid, masjid, masjid because Akand Bharath is a hindu country .. How can a masjid appears all of a sudden?? Bharath is not even your place so cry more
@wallysquash33613 ай бұрын
And BJP lost in Ayodhya
@Mytravelaccounts Жыл бұрын
The way Ali said that “not my problem, why take the blame for it” and how Kabir apologised shows two different kinds of persons- emotionally immature and mature and such people exist everywhere regardless of religion.
@hilarycoyote11 ай бұрын
I agree. What Kabir was doing was NOT taking the blame. He was showing empathy. ❤
@debodatta739811 ай бұрын
Real title should be "Can North Indian Hindus and North Indian Muslims See Eye To Eye?" Because this stuff would never happen in South India, here we all live together as INDIANS not muslims or Hindus first. and never against each other like these people are.
@chaitravernekar361711 ай бұрын
@@debodatta7398Yeah udaynidhi Stalin was spreading love when he was saying that sanatan dharm should be eradicated and the whole crowd was cheering for him 😂😂😂 You guys are so delusional and happy in your own imagination NGL I am from Davangere, Karnataka and I am also not andhbhakt .
@story-ju9cu11 ай бұрын
@@debodatta7398 yeah you are political obsessed fool, just blindly hating ,and your name represent bengali what an irony.
@VRhwanDanikik10 ай бұрын
Yep dam thing. Ali and Pallavi was in a mission to prove that individual actions doesn't represents musim community. But on the next point they were blamming and judging whole BJP becuzz of some individuals actions
@Omair.7862 жыл бұрын
Kabir is so thoughtful and patient with his answers
@arsalaanasad44222 жыл бұрын
@@KINGJERMARCUS MANIFEST ITTTT!!!!
@alidk57012 жыл бұрын
@@Zdaren they speak perfectly, just because it's a different accent than yours? People are out here learning languages and you can't bring yourself to understand an accent? Do better.
@irenesbaes2 жыл бұрын
@@Zdaren i bet they speak English better than you.
@gayasshoe85782 жыл бұрын
right he seemed so nice
@sophiad88952 жыл бұрын
Right?? He was so sweet and respectful 😇
@anushkak69458 ай бұрын
Pallavi was found in refrigerator days later ....
@indiandictator45376 ай бұрын
I wish it became true 😂
@vega_pretty4 ай бұрын
@@indiandictator4537 same 💀
@Introvert_Being3 ай бұрын
wow so you wish someone's death? @@indiandictator4537
@SatyamKumar-oy8eq2 ай бұрын
@@Introvert_Being Yes I wish 😂
@darshsagarvines9332 Жыл бұрын
basically debate is Between Hindu - Anchit and chinmay Muslim - Pallavi, ali, sarah and kabir.
@rituarya91879 ай бұрын
I don't know how come pallavi is considered muslim😂😂
@Redwater3528 ай бұрын
If I am a Muslim and I vote for bjp, I become a Hindu? What is this logic 🤯🤯
@adarshbawariya8 ай бұрын
@@Redwater352where did that come from?
@darshsagarvines93328 ай бұрын
@@rituarya9187 she is already married to a muslim guy...
@darshsagarvines93328 ай бұрын
@@Redwater352 many hindus vote congress By that logic are they muslims ? No Pallavi is well known advocate She married to muslim guy If you read quran, muslim guy is not allowed to marry non muslim or kafir She is muslim Plz read history, and compare it to present
@SuperParnam Жыл бұрын
Pallavi has the same logic as "oh my sister's husband is black, I'm not racist". Ma'am you might have some issues
@nandinigoel5712 жыл бұрын
It's sad how Achint's tragic lived experience was shut down so quickly and he was compared to the people who assassinated his father, especially since his father was targeted because of his religion in the first place. I didn't even see anyone condemning the perpetrators as much as they blamed Achint's potential "lashing out". In an ideal world, they should've discussed why Achint had to go through such a terrible loss in the first place (ie, the Kashmiri Pandit exodus), rather than focusing on how Achint ought to behave. That's simply disrespectful. "None of my business". "What's the difference between you and the perpetrators". It's sad, really.
@nandinigoel5712 жыл бұрын
Also, what even is Pallavi doing on the Hindu side xD
@Mushroom-bd3yg2 жыл бұрын
@@nandinigoel571 wdym?
@nandinigoel5712 жыл бұрын
@@Mushroom-bd3yg I think I made myself pretty clear. The focus was on how he should behave after he faced such a loss and not why he had to suffer through that loss in the first place.
@indiaininfographics29102 жыл бұрын
The fact that a brutal genocide, r@pe & exodus of a 400,000-500,000 community from their homeland because of their religion was shut down with a "Not my business" apologia shows the utter disregard for Hindu Lived experiences and atrocities that have befallen them for 1000 years.
@nandinigoel5712 жыл бұрын
@@indiaininfographics2910 precisely! Especially considering the fact that a survivor was sitting RIGHT THERE and they were still making these comments and shutting him down for pretty much the entire video.
@ramenrelisher257 ай бұрын
im outraged by how blinded pallavi is!! she is clearly if not indirectly taking the side of one religion throughout the whole video and this debate was not an equal one at all. we would urge you to invite actual hindus to this debate, who are educated and truly know their religion, i sense a liberandu here. also, coming from a kashmiri pandit ancestry myself, i completely empathise with achints' situation and am extremely heartbroken and angered by how his fathers' assassination was not taken into sight and was arrogantly brushed aside. achint, we are very sorry for what happened and would do anything in the world to change the past of kashmir and the GENOCIDE that took place upon kashmiri hindu pandits. very ashaming. JAI SHREE RAM, the temple is magnificently beautiful.
@muskanmehra172 жыл бұрын
I just wish Pallavi weren't there in this discussion. We could have had more of the rest of them.
@mukool74772 жыл бұрын
Exactly ..... the type which disowns and insults her own sect... did the opposite team said anything abt the opposition govt or hebnious things of the past??
@denzilrodrigues33162 жыл бұрын
@@mukool7477 She's right though? Everything she said was right. Others just didn't speak out like she was willing to and there's always part of it that are cut out. Graham Stephan a youtber went on one of these episodes and he explained that alot of the talk doesn't make it into the final cut so maybe there's a reason as to why her points made it
@t-rexkalita13792 жыл бұрын
@@denzilrodrigues3316 she is clearly wrong. First of all, she is not a hindu. Second she told a guy who lost his father that he was same as his killers. Now, i am in full support of france and chinese govt on the issue against uighurs.
@denzilrodrigues33162 жыл бұрын
@@t-rexkalita1379 I agree I didn't like when she compared him to the killers. And about her not being a hindu... she identifies as one so bit of a sticky one there. Why do you think she isn't a hindu? just curious. Could be that she still carries out hindu practsies and belives in the hindu faith but her marriage has made her see the other side so she shares a different view from other Hindus?
@denzilrodrigues33162 жыл бұрын
@@mukool7477 Mate I literally said I don't agree with her on that. I've been in India myself when the CAA was passed and the government shut down the entire city cutting our electricity and Internet supply. I've heard of churches being burnt and Christians being discriminated and assaulted in India all my life. I already know what it is
@sultanateofpapuanewguinea7932 жыл бұрын
Pallavi said: “let’s be honest we’re all privileged but the people on the ground… etc” Achint literally just said his dad was assassinated when he was 15! Does that sound like privilege? Ali also disregarded Achint’s story by saying that things had been peaceful lately…
@musqitonebeats21292 жыл бұрын
that's what islam does to you, rotten the brain cells
@potato64392 жыл бұрын
We don't k know if the dude is privileged tho. His father being a martyr doesn't tell us that he has no money?
@musqitonebeats21292 жыл бұрын
@@potato6439 Kashmiri pandits built their new lives from scratch after exodus, sure pandit is a privileged casts doesn’t means all pandits are rich especially the ones who were removed from kashmir
@potato64392 жыл бұрын
@@musqitonebeats2129 I never said they were rich In the first place
@subhadramahanta4522 жыл бұрын
@@musqitonebeats2129 You know, there was no caste in the Kashmir region, all people were called Pandits there since it was mainly the learned people of the society who used to go there, stay in isolation and do their research.
@richa94202 жыл бұрын
I like how both communities reflect the masses in some way. Like we all loved Kabir and Achint we loved how patient and thoughtful they were. How kabir was humble enough to say sorry for Achint's loss, and Achint was understanding enough to actually have this conversation. Then we have Chinmaya and Zarah who harbours some apprehension, not hate but apprehension, due to some experiences of their own. Then we have Ali and Pallavi, who didn't really give anything to the conversation. I didn't feel the slightest bit represented with Pallavi , irritated at times? Yes. I felt more represented with Zarah
@ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback2 жыл бұрын
Yea, absolutely agree w/ this breakdown!
@rmano65182 жыл бұрын
100% true
@bunbrowny87532 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@naaziyasulthana77962 жыл бұрын
Yep,this proves there are all kinds of people among all kinds of people !!
@ronak1937Ай бұрын
Aly and Pallavi wereone team
@purvashinde33696 ай бұрын
Shame on you jubilee for inviting inc spokesperson
@MahirSingh-mu6eu6 ай бұрын
for real??
@RajPatel-co6yz2 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is more muslim than other 3 muslims 🤣
@SANATANI-vn1wk Жыл бұрын
True💀
@TedEhioghae Жыл бұрын
Stop acting as if Islam is not evil.
@noor-l7s3w Жыл бұрын
@@TedEhioghae it’s not😂
@Vanshikavohra004 Жыл бұрын
@@TedEhioghae i think they mean she was speaking for Muslims experience more than her own religion.
@primavera-u1n Жыл бұрын
@@TedEhioghae stop acting as if you know anything about Islam.
@monsterkukie76782 жыл бұрын
Pallavi and Ali are a bit insensitive about Anchit’s history. But Pallavi might as well have been on the muslim side.
@fidelsebastian20972 жыл бұрын
on the muslim side lol is that the non-indian side?
@cjk99882 жыл бұрын
She is a Inc spokesperson apparently, what is she even doing here ?!
@ashaypallav41582 жыл бұрын
I think she already got converted to Islam for marrying her husband.
@fidelsebastian20972 жыл бұрын
@@cjk9988 Doing what the INC has always tried to do. Make sure Tata-Ambanis and the RSS stays under control.
@monsterkukie76782 жыл бұрын
@@fidelsebastian2097 No. Indians can be Muslims.
@shubhambhat84582 жыл бұрын
I am a Kashmiri Pandit and it was saddening to see Pallavi making a mockery of Achint's pain just to state her point. I felt Kabir was most sensible amongst all of them. Ali was absolutely disrespectful to Achint.
@kanadchauhan Жыл бұрын
Ali is typical hatefull Muslim around us, who refuse to take even prasaad bcoz its haraam in Islam.
@arshan3217 Жыл бұрын
No she did not make a mockery of achint's pain
@manasraina3528 Жыл бұрын
@@arshan3217 sure she did
@demonslayer3683 Жыл бұрын
@@arshan3217 she did made fun of him.
@user-zzc345 Жыл бұрын
@@manasraina3528 she didnt
@NationalSecurityGuard1086 ай бұрын
😂Pallavi Represented Hinduism Like Ex Muslim Represented Islam. Note that at least the former Muslims are aware of the Quranic Hadith. But leave aside the Veda Puranas, Pallavi does not even know the language in which these Veda Puranas are written i.e. Sanskrit because she has never read Hindu scriptures and she is representing Hinduism. what a joke?
@aasthadwivedi679210 ай бұрын
Pallavi is more Muslim than those 3 Muslims..not a balanced debate for sure ..
@sage.eclipse7 ай бұрын
how is she a muslim just for stating how muslims have been treated unfairly lmao
@amitkatariya57937 ай бұрын
She is dummy.
@Yeshasvi12346 ай бұрын
so true
@sheikhjawwad53996 ай бұрын
soooo she said some facts so she isn't hindu?
@amitkatariya57936 ай бұрын
@@sheikhjawwad5399 what facts ?
@shrey7ra2 жыл бұрын
Pallavi reduced the takeaway from this conversation. The idea of Middle Ground is to have contrasting points of view whereas hers was “friendly fire” within the context of the discussion. Also Jubilee totally skipped over what the Kashmiri Pandit genocide was, sticking to a damn bland Wikipedia entry describing the community.
@poocrayon45882 жыл бұрын
Jubilee is super woke. If that had of been Muslims being genoicided you can bet there would have been a whole episode discussing it. Unless of course it happened in China.
@rezamohammed97782 жыл бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 lmao nope. like there is nothing being said in china, there is nothing being said in other places where muslims have died on a large scale, such as israel
@jeanniemaycrawford44662 жыл бұрын
@@rezamohammed9778 I think you mean Palestine
@Fahad-gf1wx2 жыл бұрын
Jammu genocide was a hundred thousand times worse and the worst part is indian gov doesn't want anyone to know about it
@poocrayon45882 жыл бұрын
@@rezamohammed9778 The whole point was they wouldn't say it against China. Only little countries who they feel free to talk about. China is totally different, don't act like Palenstine doesn't and hasn't had controlling forces and many of it's own citizens who want the total destruction of Israel. Hamas ring a bell?
@suchitanairr2 жыл бұрын
Pallavi mahn. She was pushing her thoughts onto others not presenting her views/points. I could see the chinmay dude getting nervous when he spoke after pallavi. I appreciate kabir and achint a lot for keeping their calm and presenting their points how they should, unlike pallavi. Great discussion!
@bhakti80082 жыл бұрын
She was being completely statistical. She wasn't letting others speak. She spoke with Ali when he dismissed Anchit's trauma. She said that a few people don't represent an entire community But then was questioning the whole hindu community when the ram mandir case was brought up. I think Kabir was the wisest And the most compassionate person in that room. There should have been more talks between him and Anchit.
@suchitanairr2 жыл бұрын
@@bhakti8008 agreed!
@aimi_mirai2 жыл бұрын
She married a muslim guy i dnt think she is middle ground😑
@spd10002 жыл бұрын
A Hindu woman who married a Muslim, behaving More Muslim than Muslims
@idontcare31472 жыл бұрын
Yup at point it was kind of annoying. Some of her points were kind of correct but the way she was pushing her thoughts on other was just NO
@jayavats395820 күн бұрын
It's 2 Hindus v/s 4 muslims. Pallavi is muslim by marriage. Not a fair battle ground.
@ashish.Mishra0011 ай бұрын
Debate is happening between:- 2 Hindus , 3 converted Muslims & One is going to be converted soon.... 💀
@Aarif8578 ай бұрын
Insallah ❤❤
@ashish.Mishra008 ай бұрын
@@Aarif857 beshak bhaijaan JAI MAHAKAL...
@Ahmed-vw3iw8 ай бұрын
Andh bhakt spotted
@ashish.Mishra008 ай бұрын
@@Ahmed-vw3iw arre Pappu supporter spotted... (Ek bhi baat galat likhi ho to bata..)
@deepakkumarsaroj53748 ай бұрын
Le jao bhai hme aise log chahiye bhi nahi 😂😂we reject her from our society @@Aarif857
@shadowhymn51622 жыл бұрын
The debate has 4 Muslims and 2 Hindus. Pallavi and Ali are one hell of a PoS. They want Anchit's personal loss to blamed on Anchit's own destiny. While Ali's own community want responsibility from Hindus. Lol.
@ydl5892 жыл бұрын
It's just so easy to expose hypocrisy -j sai deepak
@ojasgarg55532 жыл бұрын
Ya the no. game made me unsubscribe them and I reported the video as well
@theeternal68902 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@pajeetrodgers25722 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, pyare anon. 2025 Ab Dur nahi
@spillintea6832 жыл бұрын
@@ojasgarg5553 reported for what 😂😂😂💀💀
@abhi4987 Жыл бұрын
Loved the debate among 4 Muslims and 2 Hindus.
@doubt5539 Жыл бұрын
True . One of Hindu being affected by genocide while all Muslims being free from it . Guess what who’s in danger .
@redrakham5787 Жыл бұрын
Haha my point exactly 💯
@arshiiia Жыл бұрын
don't say that lmfao most hindus think like the girl, but we are more quiet while BJP stans are crazy loud.
@sandhyadewda3750 Жыл бұрын
But in reality 3/4 Hindus are sickular (pseudo sickularism)
@soosonvi5407 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking.
@rohitsondhi576721 күн бұрын
This debate is not fair. Pallavi is a ex-hindu, an ex-muslim must be included in this debate.
@tusharsaxena23712 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Pallavi added nothing to the Hindu side. She might as well have been on the Muslim side.
@dhanyadileep102 жыл бұрын
I think its because her husband is a muslim and she might have changed her pov gradually by living with him..just my opinion tho
@salvatore39152 жыл бұрын
@@dhanyadileep10 maybe she feared he will whoop her asss returning home after this shoot🤣🤣
@s202066 ай бұрын
Just because you're born Hindu doesn't mean you argue everything for Hinduism
@mr.perfect10676 ай бұрын
@@dhanyadileep10dont you know after marrige muslim first change religion of his wife otherwise nikah doesnt have value
@gigilolo4660Ай бұрын
@@salvatore3915 Rest in Fridge.
@jhawar-ji2 жыл бұрын
Quoting NYT?! Seriously that's the last thing you want to do while debating on Hindu-Muslim conflict.
@bselftudy58592 жыл бұрын
India will not secular , if Muslims will majority in India becouse 92 percentage Muslim countries are Islamic not secular like india
@absurd36942 жыл бұрын
Even before the independence European newspapers like nyt and times have printed wrong and twisted images of India to reflect and expand the negative side I'm a 12th class student and our politics ncert book qoutes and shows times and other European newspaper headlines And they were always against india and anti asian
@dmat6062 жыл бұрын
@@absurd3694 nytimes European kabse hogaya bhai. Acche se padhai Karo 12th mein.
@souvikbera30672 жыл бұрын
@@dmat606 He meant the west, jyada oversmart mat ban
@_chapternumberone_87822 жыл бұрын
@@souvikbera3067 then he should have said the west. Europe and North America are clearly not the same. instead of giving a rude answer try to understand and learn from your mistake.
@collinnazareth43072 жыл бұрын
As an Indian Roman Catholic, Kashmiri Pandits have been the victims of a big injustice which is hardly talked about because it won't fit their agenda.
@ydl5892 жыл бұрын
The relief is after 32 years finally a movie named the kashmir files is going to be released on 11th March. People should watch it
@sobhi14232 жыл бұрын
Lol
@aggressive99992 жыл бұрын
Thnx
@aggressive99992 жыл бұрын
@@sobhi1423 puncture
@kiyadhdhanujva66882 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see Indian Christians supporting Kashmiri Pandits, I just feel very emotional. Thanks for understanding others pain as a Human being. My prayers are always with Kashmiri Hindus & Nigerian Christians.
@refnref9542 ай бұрын
As hindus, we don't own pallavi.
@jelouche2 ай бұрын
she is the spokeperson of congress, so what can you expect. Her name is pallavi sharma
@hariankdevaiah62662 жыл бұрын
Pallavi is the type of girl who would go about saying "I am not like other girls" to every single person she meets
@milindphadnis3990 Жыл бұрын
She is the type who wants "special privilege" in everything she does. Her opinions are more important, her citations and references are more reliable, her narrative is more accurate, and she gets to decide which "temple/mosque" destruction should be discussed and which should not be discussed.
@peak_911 Жыл бұрын
she is a congress politician, just search about her, also whom she married🤡her views are identical to her "family circle" at this point
@TedEhioghae Жыл бұрын
Stop acting as if Islam is not evil.
@faizafardina5307 Жыл бұрын
@@TedEhioghae Its not, Islam is the opposite of evil.
@fuckoff_loserr Жыл бұрын
Are you seriously calling someone a pick me just because you don't agree with their views? How mature of you!
@saiparab8782 жыл бұрын
I think inviting Pallavi just because she was born in an Hindu family was wrong. Moreover, she is a politician of Indian National Congress, which automatically means she is Anti-BJP (current government) which is allegedly pro-hindu. It would have been nice if someone who is unbiased, open to other people's opinions and someone who doesn't push a political party's propoganda was invited. It felt like the discussion was between 2 Hindus and 4 Muslims. The way she was desparate to push her thoughts, not even letting the other person speak was highly immature. And her double standards when she oppossed the blaming the whole Muslim community for their crime against Kashmiri Pandits, but later she was blaming the Hindu Community for destroying one Mosque which was built on the ruins of a temple and was very close to the Hindu Community.
@satyamindnectar70522 жыл бұрын
That is called pseudo secularism...
@animesvt12342 жыл бұрын
Fact!! I hope this reaches them and they apologies for it. Absolutely shameful
@felidaesaremoresuperiortha58552 жыл бұрын
kashmiri pandits? they dont even follow proper hinduism.
@satyamindnectar70522 жыл бұрын
@@felidaesaremoresuperiortha5855 There is nothing called proper HINDuism.. Hinduism is secular flexible religionn
@rayaanaaryan26842 жыл бұрын
this Pallavi is from Congress is that Fact really ??? i am not supporting any party ...but i also felt she have some objective .
@amatya.rakshasa2 жыл бұрын
Only one person said "I'm sorry for your loss". That was surprising. That should've been the first thing anyone should've said. One woman made her first statement about her, that she felt fear when she heard that the dude was a Kashmiri Pandit. Great that every expressed their feelings and lauded the dude for his maturity but the first thing to come out of their mouths shouldve been an expression of sympathy for the horrendous tragedy the dude went through.
@ive-36922 жыл бұрын
I was very confused when she said that. Why does she fear a Kashmiri pandit? Was it because she thought she might receive hate?
@amatya.rakshasa2 жыл бұрын
@@ive-3692 Yeah, exactly. The fear is that a Kashmiri pandit will hate on all muslims in response to the atrocities they faced.
@arpitharao10022 жыл бұрын
Rather than direct the matter of how discussion of the exodus might cause Islamaphobia, they should have discussed how Hindus are unsafe in Kashmir. This kind of whataboutery is so frustrating for Kashmiri Pandits sharing their stories.
@pseudonym92152 жыл бұрын
Well, its clear everyone one was sorry for his loss and were uncomfortable in how to start such a discussion. Later they moved from the topic. Its clear.
@stanwinx11442 жыл бұрын
@@ive-3692 I was a little confused too. I was thinking why would she be scared when kashmiri pandits have had the hard side (i could be wrong correct me if so I'm not the most knowledgeable on this issue but i know a bit). there's a societal prejudice between hindus and muslims and it's from peoples experiences I understand i guess
@rahulagarwal.19Ай бұрын
When a Hindu tells their problem, it is seen as a defence or a revenge, because if any injustice is happening to majority it's not even considered injustice. Foolish kids.
@vikasvermaji6392 Жыл бұрын
So basically there are 4 Muslims vs 1 Hindu and an oppressed person in that debate.
@krishbhalotia51587 ай бұрын
And he was enough for them
@pratyakshamishra38022 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, Pallavi took away more from the conversation than she gave. Her representation could have been so much better in terms of communication, but all she did was speak more than the Muslims themselves about them and dismiss Achint's gruesome side of history. I was shocked to find her trying to state facts that everyone was already painfully aware of and sideline some genuine problems Hindus face. She could have been the perfect middle ground but chose not to. Kabir and Zarah were phenomenal with their words. I wish we got to hear more from Achint. This comment has been gaining some attention, so an update: I have come to the realization that Pallavi is a member of a political party. Middle Ground is a conversation for laymen to have since politicians will obviously have biases, so I hope Jubilee avoids that in the future. Having said that, let's not bash anyone for their personal choices or hate against an ideology. Extremism results in chaos. Middle Ground is for the viewers to have a deeper understanding of social and economic issues as well, and if you refuse to understand the 'other side', you are refusing to bring the very change you want to see. I have grown as a person watching these videos, and I am sure that if you broaden your perspective, you will too. Thank you :)
@silverkittyzen2 жыл бұрын
What you're seeing with Pallavi is a classic case of overcompensation. She isn't trying to please or win favours from the other side. In the beginning of the video she talked about how her family was anti-Muslim and still won't even talk to her husband. When you are surrounded by so much negativity, you feel compelled to neutralise all that negativity and end up overcompensating with positive sympathy and empathy. The solution to that is not muting people like Pallavi but to make sure that children are being brought up in neutral environments. If Pallavi's husband is also extremely pro-Muslim, I wouldn't be surprised if their children also continue the cycle by being anti-Muslim.
@KarthikAyyalasomayajula2 жыл бұрын
@@silverkittyzen Honestly it kinda feels like Jubilee will usually have one of these sorts of people in the group who is more favorable to the other group's point of view than their own. They also had someone like that in the Israel-Palestine episode and the Police-BLM Activist episode I think it makes for an interesting dialogue and perspective, but I do think that it sorta unevens the numbers when these people tend to be in the minority compared to their group overall. Could be helped imo by having 4 people on each side instead of 3
@ved262 жыл бұрын
Ughh she was so annoying!
@pratyakshamishra38022 жыл бұрын
@@KarthikAyyalasomayajula I completely agree with this! I know Jubilee is very accepting and takes particular care in choosing people, but sometimes it ends up in one side dominating the other(as in this case). I hope the future videos include this, because the middle ground is a wonderful outlet for me and many others and it would be a shame to not see even participation.
@silverkittyzen2 жыл бұрын
@@KarthikAyyalasomayajula I know it is likely to happen but I don't believe Jubilee does it on purpose. I don't think they evaluate people's leanings or opinions before being shortlisted. They only look for people who identify with a certain label. The criteria that would concern them more would be English speaking ability, the ability to express themselves clearly, etc. They don't want people to be aware of the prompts beforehand. Like I said, anti-Muslim mentality is not uncommon among Hindu households so it is not uncommon to find people who have very pro-Muslim views like her. Moreover, Hindus who strongly adhere to their religion while being anti-Muslim are usually older people or people who are uneducated or can't speak English very well.
@musicbeats26712 жыл бұрын
You know what an example of true hindu was achint and an example of true Muslim was Kabir both had respect and patience for each other's religion and true understanding of their own religion❤❤
@wafajamal37202 жыл бұрын
yeah. great representatives
@RAIRADIO Жыл бұрын
Everyone was actually a true representation. It also showed how Hindus had less voice and more partiality towards the other side. They wont even speak about 350 destroyed temples even when the topic came up.
@yourstepmom3074 Жыл бұрын
exactly!!!!
@ChetannnSingh Жыл бұрын
But the point on bjp was not aggreable there are riots before 2014 against Hindus there is a full list of it
@fizzgotcha9246 Жыл бұрын
@@ChetannnSingh there is .. but in my pov like pallavi said there is ofcourse an increase .. before it was just in some particular places ,but now its even normalised all over the country.. also bjp have this policy of promoting hinduism more and discrimination stuffs which was not even existed in any govt before 2014 ..isnt it obvious
@proudindian.78283 күн бұрын
I thought this is a neutral platform. But when i came to the video muslim is talking about muslim. And so called hindus is also talking about muslim. 😢