Judge Rinder's Crime Stories Mick Philpotts / Stephens Family

[@thousandyardgavri2785]

The neighbors expressed more emotion than the damn parents

[@thebolsta]

This is the first time I've seen Mairead's father, and noticed straight away how much like Philpott he looks...

[@passiveaggressive6175]

Thought the exact same

[@TattooedLuna]

It’s kinda creepy when you think how young she was when she fell for that monster too. Perhaps she saw a lot of her father on him.

[@laetitialogan2017]

But world's apart..

[@carolyoung8677]

There's a video of Michael saying he has finally come to realise that his father (plus Mairead & Mosley) was guilty as charged.

[@uyoebyik]

It's so disturbing how children defend evil psychopathic parents

[@villebooks]

Human nature in itself is pretty disturbing.

[@--Skip--]

A form of Stockholm Syndrome.

[@Gugjch-rl3ko]

​​@@villebookshumanity is filthy created by a Psycho

[@elainagilbert7663]

Nothing is black and white.

[@shonamckenzie7124]

He is very lucky he wasn't in that house when his guardian angel father set fire to the house and killed his siblings.

[@amberlance3221]

I pity the son, he is in clear denial about the loss of his siblings but I wonder if a small part of him knows the truth so he suppresses it rather than deal with it.. it is so incredibly grim.. those poor children didn't have a chance

[@carolinebrennan3864]

Proof how much his dad was a master manipulater of the women in his life and his children.

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

I do wonder what is happening in his mind.

[@joanna4289]

@@amberlance3221 I don't pity the son at all!!! I pity the 6 children taken too soon and their grandfather!!! The son is a chip of the old block!!!

[@jessicadeines]

@@joanna4289 I don't know if I could agree with that. My father's mother killed his dad and beat him and his brother. He defended her for decades until he finally could accept what she was. It is hard to see your own parents as monsters especially when you are young.

[@thebolsta]

Mick was more bothered about losing the child benefit and his meal ticket, his chance at being provided a massive house and a wage had gone up in smoke. He didn't care about losing the kids. His kids were a means to an end.

[@NoBootyBeauty]

Well he's got all the free housing and free meals he needs now.

[@jadekelly3707]

Totally agree. His ego just couldn't let his former mistress walk away from his seedy way of life and of course, his meal tickets.

[@sarahmore4146]

I'm a mum of 8 grown up apart from a six year old this is so sad this bastard u would never think of doing that what women would go with that being groomed by him I've said 2 my girls in a fire u and my son get our first if I don't make it cause I love them the brothers that helped they r lovely

[@jennigee51]

What also gets me is that the poor neighbours Jaimie and Darren beat themselves up every day because they couldn't get to the children, and now Michael is blaming himself because he wasn't there! It infuriates me, it wasn't their fault!! My heart goes out to them.

[@irenemorley75]

dO YOU REALLY KNOW THEM ?????????????????????????

[@allthatjazz9000]

They are full of shit! Stop being so gullible

[@jadekelly3707]

Me too, it must be awful for them.

[@andygarside2418]

​@@irenemorley75I've met some characters in my time, and I get bad vibes from the Butler brothers. Wouldn't wanna meet them drunk!

[@sheenasmith6634]

The sentence for the assault upon his ex and her mother was pathetic. He was clearly very dangerous

[@sheilahales4313]

The sentence for killing his children is a total insult. Doubt he will change his ways once he gets out, there will always stupid women who will for for "charms", but they will probably be very young and vulnerable. Sick.

[@bruggeman672]

@@sheilahales4313 stupid? Wow way to join in abusing the abused. Congratulations you're as bad as the man you're condemning...

[@LollypopLollypop-gm8qz]

Those poor neighbors will never be the same god rest those babies in heaven

[@audsk9953]

Sentence was no way long enough for taking those 6 poor children's lives...

[@potocatepetl]

For this kind of cases, the only right sentence would be death with some year on the death row so you know he is also tortured at the thought.

[@stephboond2400]

She is out of jail now after serving half of her sentence damn right DISGUSTING

[@audsk9953]

Omg really.....that's horrendous, justice system stinks

[@sarahalice7034]

Agreed, Mick should have gotten 15 years for each child's life. Mairead was released two years ago, which is horrific and an insult to the children's memory. Our justice system truly is a joke.

[@audsk9953]

@@sarahalice7034 totally agree....its a disgrace

[@sticksenstones7536]

OMG the similarity between Máiréad's dad and mick are unbelievable.

[@adampszkit7957]

They say you marry someone like your dad

[@ceceanne4388]

I bloody hope not!!!!!!!

[@louiseowusu246]

I thought exactly that...

[@9kazcat]

I thought that !!

[@bruggeman672]

@@adampszkit7957 everyone?

[@stcntymcfckoff5805]

It's shame for Michael because I think he's using his belief in his dad being innocent as a defence mechanism and deep down he knew the truth and couldn't process the utter horror of what his dad did and he's had to come round very gradually to allow himself to heal from some serious psychological trauma

[@kimmymegs]

15 years is an absolute insult to them poor kids and that community.... 6 lives, they paid the price for HIM being their father 😢

[@mariahoness6160]

I suppose the son found it hard to comprehend that his own father killed his siblings. No one would ever want to believe their mum or dad would do that kind of thing.

[@baobo67]

Thanks Maria, Some are calling him brainwashed which is not the correct term. He saw the little bit of good there was in his father. You only have one father and mother.

[@SexRealist301]

​@@baobo67 There is NO good inside Mick Philpott. He would even make a decent fertilizer when he finally snuffs it.

[@jesstherobloxqueen5042]

It didn’t want his kids back he wanted the money back that he got for the kids 😡😡😡😡😡

[@hannahxx17]

This was never about his love for his children and how hardly done by he was, it was about ownership and entitlement. He openly admitted on camera more than once that he would keep having kids, that no one could stop him, that each kid got him money. They were objects to be used for cash and manipulation not to be loved.

[@sheilahales4313]

The lazy sc8M saw the children as a means to sponge off the state, they were a means to an end, that was why he was upset the wife/mistress what ever she was left him

[@Ann-qf5vk]

👍👍👍👍

[@boxlabs]

I just cant believe social services weren't involved after his Jeremy Kyle appearance.

[@32446]

Psychopaths are incapable of love.

[@wendiwendi7956]

I hope he never gets out !!!!

[@baobo67]

He gets out 2028 Aged 72 if he survives. Hope Michael Jr. is not there to greet him. Such a narcissist I expect he will get the press around to visit the graves with him the day he gets out then go on the talk circuit.

[@uyoebyik]

Mairead is out already and has been given a new identity

[@--Skip--]

I NEVER read that the sentencing judge gave too much time for their crime. Life should mean life. When is the UK and other Commonwealth countries realize that letting killers go free is no justice and makes the blood boil.

[@SexRealist301]

And it. Just. Keeps. Happening. Then the bastards get out and reoffend 😡😡😡

[@roxannesparks3231]

He sure did brain wash his poor son😢

[@louandjay1]

Roxanne Sparks that’s exactly what i thought to, feel sorry for him poor boy 😢its clear that his dad was a complete narcissist! Man slaughter i see it as murder

[@justjonni9330]

Just imagine how all his kids would've seen their dad in the same light if they were alive. Mick was manipulating long before his son was born… and he's used the power of that manipulation on this poor boy

[@krazykris4785]

Jaime and Darren should get medals for their bravery..what a horrific experience 💔

[@stasysuter9939]

Totally agree, they will never forget that nightmare for the rest of their lives. Wish them nothing but love and luck.

[@tarantulamum4322]

i remember seeing this on the news when it happened and darren and jamie trying to get into the house, they did more then the kids own dad did. darren and darren need to stop beating themselves up. and Michael sorry but u need to realise ur dad is one evil c**t. all bcoz he wanted a bigger house and play the hero 😢

[@privateperson5769]

He should NEVER be let out of prison. Do those kids lives mean nothing ? Manslaughter ? - should have been murder...absolutely appalling crime beyond Frikken belief. NO ONE with children would ever endanger their children's lives in such a reckless way. Absolutely appalling. If we really valued the lives of (women and) children we would give much stronger sentences.

[@chantalsscaleisafibber]

Mick Philpot should get a life sentence for each of his victims and never ever be released from prison. He should of been put in general population and let the other prisoners deal with the child killer in their own very special way.

[@harrymccallum1226]

I can't understand why Michael still believes his father after hearing them talking in the hotel room

[@sarahalice7034]

He probably doesn't want to think that his father's guilty, which he can't really be blamed for. It must be so hard to comprehend that your own father did something so heinous and you lost your siblings as a result. Poor lad definitely needs therapy to help him come to terms with it.

[@alli-kat2329]

Its denial

[@deborahsmith2812]

Michael jn says "every Father should have the right to say goodbye to his kids" Call me old fashioned,he lost his right the minute he poured petrol through the letter box,and that shit show he put on the TV,Not once did he mention those poor babies. Michael jn had a narrow escape,if he was at the house,he would of been sucked into the tragedy that ensued in the early hours.

[@baobo67]

Sorry Michael Jr. Not in this case, Hope you can get your life together after this tragedy. You are as innocent as your siblings.

[@derektrotter4287]

I would say philpott engineered it so Michael was away fishing so not too disrupt plans. Being older he could of helped or given evidence with what he saw.

[@justjonni9330]

Hopefully he'll see through his father's bullshit over time… but he was up under his father's narcissistic behaviors for 14 yrs… the seed was long sowed by then

[@ceceanne4388]

He sent him fishing because he was too old to go along with the story of ‘when you smell fire go into the back bedroom and I’ll save you’

[@ivyvulaj8804]

I don’t think he is able to see the truth , the way they were living is not normal , so he grow up in a not normal family .

[@kellysheridan7289]

Those poor neighbours bless them.

[@mpking-ey7ys]

Why the woman´s father looks so much like Mick Philpotts?

[@fantasticmrfox7497]

Maybe she wanted a father figure.

[@alli-kat2329]

Its just the goatee

[@janethollman7894]

Such a disgusting man. Why were women drawn to him he was a horrible and what he did was unforgivable.

[@32446]

Cos he’s a psychopath and they put on a facade. Once they’ve got you then their true colours come out.

[@uiscebeatha9476]

Mairead Philpott was released on the 8th of December 2020, how can this be ok?

[@marielewis2803]

@@ill_be_frank Yer crazy right.

[@charlottemayer9464]

Think the son really needs to think again what kind of man his father is 🤔

[@lynnetrathen4587]

Oh he’s no man he is a lowlife coward 😡😡

[@robpoole3437]

The son is so brainwashed

[@Narnus96]

Yeah I had to switch it off when he said "the last words we spoke were, we will get our justice" I know it's not really his fault he feels that way, but I couldn't watch! 😐

[@BJ-ld8vn]

Poor poor beautiful children 😢

[@johnjoyce9075]

💯💯💯💯😢😢😢😢😢😢💔💔💔💔💔💔

[@lolly5453]

I don’t have the words to even convey the horror and heartbreak felt watching this, just unbelievably sad for those left behind, the ones who are left feeling guilty despite doing everything they could to try and prevent tragedy. Unfortunately the real guilty parties don’t seem to share the same sense of remorse even tho they were the true cause of so much devastation. My heart goes out to all the victims in this episode, the ones still here with us struggling with grief, loss and regret, and of course the six innocent children and the mother of four that brutally had their lives taken. Truly heartbreaking stuff 😓💔🙏🏼

[@loopylou6841]

I sincerely hope that Jaimie and Darren get to move on with their lives in peace ☮️🕊️ and some how find some peace ✌️

[@chuckydall9250]

What kind of justice system do you have over there were 6 children's lives are only worth 15 years in prison!!

[@BenKellyMusic92]

It's always sad seeing Jamie and Darren on these programmes recount that dreadful night, they still haven't moved on from it 🥺💔

[@mad9023]

It is a shame the little ones, and no consultation - although they have been called by God specifically ✝️💜

[@sarahalice7034]

They are the real heroes from that night.

[@maryjanemaguire1124]

The son is in serious denial

[@carlzeiss4871]

I’m from Derby and I actually work at Rolls Royce on Victory road about half a mike from the phillpot house, it is going to become very interesting if stupid mick phillpot decides to return to Derby upon his release from prison. I think, from local opinion, his life won’t be worth a carrot if he does show his face in Derby again.

[@Shelsight]

He won’t get out until he’s in a coffin. Whole life tariff.

[@carlzeiss4871]

@@Shelsight don’t be daft, he has already been out of prison on several occasions on day release and he will be released fully very shortly. Mosley and phillpots wife have already been discharged. Mosley has already been recalled to prison for breaking the terms of his parole. If you don’t know what you are talking about it’s probably best to not spout crap on KZbin.

[@SexRealist301]

​@@Shelsight Unfortunately not. Lenient sentences in this country!! He was only given 15 years before "eligible" for parole. Fucking judges are a big part of the problem.

[@sarahalice7034]

@@Shelsight he got life with a minimum term of 15 years. Let's hope they decide to extend it after those 15 years are up.

[@janethollman7894]

It wasn’t the sons fault yet he carries more emotion then his father. I cannot believe what they did with no remorse. They went from the hospital to have sex leaving their son in ICU.

[@markfire1235]

They should’ve brought the death penalty back for this particular case

[@dmc41987]

Completely agree

[@marilynvallance]

The second story is heart-rending.

[@Ann-qf5vk]

I can't understand anyone who could defend this monster.

[@profhortsunlover1536]

Felt so sorry for Mick's boy, he has no idea his dad would kill him soon as look at him. Mick has no clue how to love anyone. Throw away the key.

[@neighbourhoodwitch18]

I wish more people would read your comment; I’m getting angrier at all of the comments slagging this kid off. He’s obviously been desperate for his dad and idolised him all his life. I feel really sorry for him.

[@Anna-loves-you]

I just saw an interview with his son from 6 years ago where he says his father is guilty

[@fantasticmrfox7497]

He was crying because he lost control! Son is suffering from loss and grief at various levels plus an element of denial.

[@smch6416]

Ah, he seems like a really nice lad. To us it's all so obvious what mick philpott is, but to him he only sees the side of him that treated him well. It bet his mother would tell a different story. If your dad has done time for very serious attempted murders previously too, there's not much doubt that he would be capable of this too but sadly the son doesn't seem able to see it. I'm not in his shoes so I don't know how Id be. There's no doubt to outsider's what a monster he is. Any man capable of violence towards women is capable of absolutely anything.

[@davidphillips2259]

That lad like the red hair lad in Benidorm who helps in hair salon 💇‍♀️

[@lolly5453]

Thanks for the uploads 👍🏼

[@requiscatinpace7392]

Philpotts son seems a simple soul.

[@normasouthwood3182]

Young Michael says that his dad wasn't hurting anyone. Wrong! He was hurting the British taxpayer. What a monster!

[@averyshenan958]

15 years for 6 kids

[@YONCE8701]

Son: this isn't right....he should be here. He is wrongly accused. Me (stopped cooking): WHO?? DID WE EXPERIENCE THE SAME SITUATION??? OBVS DRINKING THE KOOL-AID, 🙄 BRAINWASHED.

[@lizabethkane7044]

Wow truly the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree...😞

[@justjonni9330]

Wonder what's his views on how women should be treated ? Maybe he should talk to the 1st girlfriend his father stabbed up 🤔

[@ajayjackson7727]

@@justjonni9330 yeah exactly

[@ajayjackson7727]

@@justjonni9330 philpott should have been jailed for life after he done the first attack

[@joanna4289]

@@ajayjackson7727 I don't think Mick philpot will ever be released because he is too hated and too volatile to trust with a new identity!!!

[@SexRealist301]

​@@joanna4289 I wish that were the case but I doubt it. Judges and the parole board are SHIT AND IRRESPONSIBLE.

[@johnjoyce9075]

I. Hope them kids get the best bed in heaven rip God bless them 🙏🙏🙏😢🙏😢

[@joanworley7185]

I hope Philip didn't know a moment's peace

[@steveb9527]

My guardian angel? Sad bastard

[@scouser2010ify]

The fake crying they did is disturbing

[@puppy1584]

The young lad says, “there was no one splitting us apart”. Yeah right…your dad managed it though…

[@nikitanokia1249]

Thanks so much for sharingfrom London

[@kathyjones3320]

What is wrong with the son the so called person you call dad killed your siblings all he cared about was getting girls pregnant and getting all the money he's just a evil disgusting monster. I hope those 6 children are resting in peace.

[@Ann-qf5vk]

So agree

[@StrawberrySunday212]

No his kids got him plenty of money., he didn't give a damn about them because If a man has to force himself to cry, and fail, about the death of his children then that showed he gave 0 fecks about them. They were a source of income, nothing more and his equally daft son doesn't see that.

[@g-malaigo1155]

OMG... 30 years for that type of brutal killing his mother, but stabbing her 37 times.? He should have gotten LIFE w/o Parole. Or is it that over there they don't have that strong of a punishment for someone who commits those kind of brutal inhumane crimes. Truly a pathetic sentence.... No Excuse!!!

[@sloeberdoet]

I think his son should talk with philpotts first girlfriend to see what kind of guardian angel his father was. But you have also those angels from the other side . Maybe he was one of those fallen once.

[@ceceanne4388]

He stabbed one of his exes and beat another one aged 14!!

[@sloeberdoet]

@@ceceanne4388 You mean his son did this?

[@marielewis2803]

@@sloeberdoet No Mick did.

[@staceymarie5125]

Now I hate the son just as much.

[@deboraholcot4630]

At 15.24 his son saying my dad tried to get in.... is he dumb... he said he'd gone a day early, my feelings tell me micks plan was to get him out the house

[@bruggeman672]

@Deborah Olcot why is it so surprising a son would defend his father? Seems like family loyalty isn't a concern for you... Nor the many issues such a young man would have to work through on his own...

[@sharrondenton3461]

It’s the 2 neighbours I feel for they have to live knowing they couldn’t get to the children smh those who set the fire are beyond vile and shouldn’t ever see the light of day those poor bairns it’s disgusting

[@roryslaine7896]

Damn when they interviewed Maireads father I thought it was gonna be the actor playing Philpott in a reconstruction...

[@donnaweetch7589]

You say he loved his kids …why would he of put any risk to your bothers and sisters…shame in you his certainty got his hooks on you

[@catherinecrawford4537]

I think it's a total disgrace, what gave that piece of dirt, the right to murder, his own mother, sorry but I've NO sympathy for him, I hope he rots!

[@sarahwestwell8774]

As his son he will believe in his dad. But unfortunately his dad has done nothing to prove his sons faith in him. As the investigation went on it became apparent what had happened . Guilt is a blinkered emotion. Xxx

[@ceceanne4388]

She went out from the hospital the day her kids died and came back with love bites ?? 😲😲😲😲😲😲 I may have had sympathy for her being with him if she had come clean about the plan and showed genuine sadness

[@mkfloyd9131]

They were at the karaoke a few days later getting drunk and singing Suspicious minds, god forbid...

[@nicolamillar4958]

Mick Philpott and Mhaireds Dad look so alike🤔

[@scouser2010ify]

He was a bum he didn’t wanna get a job he lived off benefits

[@hanyhash2218]

The neighbour brothers have more empathy, compassion & more in touch with reality than that son. Lucky he went fishing isn't it.

[@9kazcat]

His poor son in denial his dad did it, despite clear as day evidence he did. Shows what a master manipulator he was of those close to him.

[@dmc41987]

Evil, evil man the case saddened me and angered me at the same time

[@leolicursi3536]

Dad was a freak

[@dmc41987]

Yeah you’re not wrong

[@annthorley4636]

What the hell is his son on about look what he as done to them little angels 😇

[@michaelhoggarth89]

Mick philpott might have loved his kids but not enough to get a job and look after them the right way .... Life was all about him and how he loved control... No loving parent would put they kids at risk let alone take they lives ....He never thought of the smoke inhalation from the fire he caused and how it kills ... He was in his 50's he should of known setting the fire was a huge risk ...

[@averyshenan958]

They gave them an excuse and then charged them with manslaughter instead of murder. Who said that was the story?

[@bobSCOTT99]

Those kids were no more than cash cows to Philpott

[@neighbourhoodwitch18]

07:31 Mick at his most intelligent, describing his ‘crinimal’ record 🙄

[@barbaradyson6951]

that's why life can be a dog. Always beware of the unknown factor. Mick Philpotts puts me in mind of a pikey,

[@ceceanne4388]

Wonder who organised the funerals

[@misoeriksson8333]

Never working and probably not lending a hand at home ofcourse he could spend time with his kids...

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

Those poor children. I'm only a third of the way through, and I can't imagine what must be going on in Michael's mind. I'm slightly struggling to reconcile the image of a father who cares with the person who has burned the house with his children inside. The Stephens case. That's so bleak. I know alcoholism is a disease, but it's not one that I understand. I just don't understand how it could have come to it. I don't think that I can comprehend how you could muddle on afterwards, but then I suppose there's no choice in it.

[@leolicursi3536]

Mairead free now

[@alli-kat2329]

Thats so fucked up! 🤬

[@Mranthrowfist13]

Mick philpott, Pol Pot. No pot to piss in “The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness.” Joseph Conrad.

[@melissabyrne8749]

So sad 😞

[@janetrutherford8568]

Listening to this is beyond belief l look at judge Rinder and think to myself and think to myself this man is a credit to the judiciary of the UK amazing individual and l think the sentences the Phillips got was far to low they took innocent kids lives for the greed of money it should have been natural life l hope they rot in prison god is great.

[@nicolebailey4426]

Michael how did Mick Philpott he treat your mother. I heard he was abusive towards Heather. You know your dad is guilty for why would you think you could save all your siblings if you were there? I wished they asked him if your dad didn't do this evil deed then who? Don't blame yourself you were a great sibling to them continue to be a better person especially you have to face your father's misdeeds you can hold your memories but be objective your father is a selfish murderer

[@sheilahales4313]

Maybe a case of like father like son. am sure he saw the abuse his father was giving his mother.

[@nicolebailey4426]

@@sheilahales4313 I surely hope not I hope one day that although Mick was a good dad I hope he will be able to figure out what he stayed overnight sleeping and that could have been him dying from a house fire set up like dear old dad. 🤮🤮 for greed

[@missrobertson45]

Im sorry but the siblings in the 2nd story should have been more involved especially as their brother was talking about how evil their mother was and how he wanted to kill her. That should have caused their brother to be removed from the home asap, not left at the pub, drunk and volitile. Also there is no real emotion from either during the interview, sick and toxic family

[@christopherfield6890]

How dare you! You know absolutely nothing about any of the people in this interview. I am the daughter in the interview, and I never went a day without contact with my mother, I lived with my mother half of the week, every week for 4 months after my twin brother died because she was so distraught...I cooked for her, cared for her and did everything I could for her...After 4 months I had to go back home because I had 4 children of my own to look after, but I saw her regularly and was in contact every single day...As for my brother, she was strongly advised not to take him in...I told her it was a bad idea, but he was her son, and she did what any mother would do, and nobody was going to change her mind on that! And he might of told our other brother that he felt like killing our mother, but who would believe that he would actually carry that out? He thought it was just hot air! And he still carries that guilt with him 7 years on...And how can you say there was no emotion? All because you can't see us crying? That doesn't mean we weren't emotional, You see less than a 30 minute interview, and think you know everything. If anyone is toxic, it's you with your nasty evil comment...I'm literally sickened reading this.

[@triciastewart5529]

I am so sad for you and your last living member of your family and

[@amybrown7729]

So sad 😞 no child wants to be the child of a killer . The result of brain washing and an environment that kids should not be part of 😢 this is his way of coping and it’s awful to watch . I hope he gets good help and has a happy life in the future. He didn’t choose that life . But also could be just like him and selling stories for money

[@veganfortheanimalsdee6637]

Poor lads deluded.

[@thegrumblesquad4949]

mirade is in halifax now 1/1/23

[@neighbourhoodwitch18]

Really? You’ll have to forgive my ignorance, she’s still in jail, isn’t she? Not released? Sorry, can’t bear to google the cow.

[@rebeccalewis8551]

@@neighbourhoodwitch18 she was released in November 2020 and has been given a new identity

[@misty5979]

they say life but then they say 15 years, WTF! Don't get it? Other cases I've heard that they give life but then they get out in few months or like this case 15 years??? Why say life when it's not for life? Son believes he's innocent? Brainwashed or something???? LIFE is LIFE for murderers, especially in this case, not 15 years, WTF, don't understand this BS......no remorse but crocodile tears.......having kids to receive money cause he can't get job, how horrible

[@relaxingvideos6518]

Life minimum term 15 years

[@kimsherlock8969]

I like to twist the picture, introspection. I would have considered" Gone Fishing with mates" Son Michael 🤔 also highly suspicious of pyrotechnics. ???????????????????

[@youinspiremyinnerserialkiller]

Why dont they just name the mistress. After showing her face on Jeremy karl and countless other stuff alot of ppl know her. Lisa Willis.

[@ceceanne4388]

They do in other videos

[@youinspiremyinnerserialkiller]

@@ceceanne4388 that's what I'm saying. Everybidy knows her... so why keep it a secret? 🤷‍♀️

[@ceceanne4388]

In another video she couldn’t be showed due to some privacy thing but was named. She must have cut a deal ?

[@youinspiremyinnerserialkiller]

@@ceceanne4388 most likely. Probably got her to testify about the living situation and the abuse. Tho to say he had previous conviction of attempted murder... that says enough lol

[@marielewis2803]

Yes her photos are online only have to Google her name.

[@FionaNici-jq7mz]

I still wonder if he did it to rid himself of the kids to either be free or possibly to be 'free' to get back with the ex. (in his mind obviously). Or his intent was to save the kids but if he didn't he wasn't too bothered. The mother I have no idea.