[Judgement] Penumbra + variations/phases

[@BasedPeter]

Never in my life would I think a game’s OST would make bongos sound threatening

[@StomeAura]

*aggressive bongo tapping intensifies*

[@Muscaplays]

Nothing scarier than unga bunga

[@TheWorstPartyMember]

Someone's never fought Rajang before.

[@taloscal]

gives that Primal/Wild instinct I guess that fits with the insanity and brutality of the fight

[@justsomenumpty]

Fly walked so Penumbra could run

[@Maxler5795]

Phase 3 of the fight is the incarnation of "i always come back" and "oh fuck" in one package.

[@lizdevilz7271]

You know,If you see professional assassin yell “ORAAAAAA!!” or protagonist’s name instead of staying silent and scary,The fight going to be good.

[@TheGamerClown]

*YAGAMIIIIIIII!!! SHINEIIII!!*

[@lycanbladefang4768]

When a final boss uses a healing item. The fight is going to be good

[@lizdevilz7271]

@@lycanbladefang4768 Finished it yesterday,I daresay,I got my ass handed by him when he healed himself with AD-9 lol. And yes,I already unlocked every skills. Maybe I got too cocky lol.

[@maxisdead2153]

@@lizdevilz7271 Nah I think it was adrenaline, if he had healed himself with AD-9 he would be dead in seconds.

[@MatsuSenpaii]

@@maxisdead2153 yep, while AD-9 is the one used by Shono (that professor) It still fucking scares me, it's just disturbing, Eyes with blue pigment, i'd say that was one of the scariest and brutal thing in RGG games *There are also other disturbing / scary things, like in Yakuza 5 & Yakuza Like a Dragon

[@wasayqureshi34]

What an epic way to end the game. The difficulty of this fight was off the charts and only amplified by the music; all of which made it all the more satisfying to finally beat him

[@Hahalefunnyvalentine]

What you said about the Difficulty should be saved for amon

[@__bepis____bepis__308]

@@Hahalefunnyvalentine yeah but Amon is *supposed* to be bullshit hard, final bosses are supposed to challenge your knowledge of the games systems and combat mechanics, Amon tests your ability to cheese the game

[@audiobook5860]

@@__bepis____bepis__308 yet there are people who don't pull tiger drops on them every 5 seconds and still manage to no damage em

[@tricksalot2]

@@audiobook5860 dont know how u tiger drop so good on 30 frames though.

[@randomduck8679]

@@audiobook5860 Yes and some people beat Dark Souls with the Donkey Konga bongas.

[@Muscaplays]

In the underground bar you fought kuroiwa, in the hospital you fought the mole

[@54nbb35]

but he isn't the mole

[@Batt1nsonsolos]

@@54nbb35 He is wdym

[@54nbb35]

@@Batt1nsonsolos the real mole is that scientist guy, when kuroiwa saw the side effect of ad9 he said something like"so that's why their eyes got gouge out"

[@Batt1nsonsolos]

@@54nbb35 yeah ik he didn't gouge their eyes out himself but he still killed them

[@54nbb35]

@@Batt1nsonsolos ad9‘s side effects are already fatal. The whole point of this part of plot is to show that the scientist dude is more horrible then kuroiwa, and he is the mole. He killed those people and gouge out their eye by himself yet still thought they were just sacrifices for the scientific achievements.

[@sgtrevolver]

9:37 is now my new alarm tone. Bro has little to no backstory and just likes to kill. But man, he's one of my favorites ever in the RGG franchise.

[@general-motors]

FR. Why is he so lovable?

[@duke9260]

he's refreshing , while everyone fights for justice or their ideals he's just a pure demon

[@khanthelame]

also he's just the most friendly and wholesome looking guy in real life, but in judge eyes...

[@yellowgetbright]

Ngl yeah, the other villains are attached to AD9 because: -Become rich and famous -Family member with dementia Kuroiwa: Idk man I just like gouging out eyes.

[@purpleplasma4824]

A sinister theme with a mix of hope, this could be Kuroiwa's delusion of saving the world as a hero but instead a monster that kills what ever in his path as his future crumbles. Or Yagami having to endure the twisted truths he sees while breaking out of the nightmare he is being put in. Yagami and Kuroiwa are both detectives but the polar opposites of each other. Edit: Jin and Kuroiwa are the opposites of the same coin while Yagami is at the sides of the coin absolutely genius. One kills for fake justice other kills for true justice and Yagami wants the truth in justice.

[@paulman34340]

Found it funny how both the final bosses of this and Lost Judgement also use the same fighting style as Yagami to further show the similarity between them and Yagami. Kuwana is great because the morality is in the gray on if his judgment is right or Yagami. Story lets YOU decide that. But with Kuroiwa, he's a scary look at a Yagami who COMPLETELY lost his way and delusionally makes excuses for his actions! A Show of how Yagami has "good judge eyes" (I'll show myself out "walks away shameful head down") compared to the delusional serial killer still trying to justify his murders (It's why Kuwana is a better foil to Yagami then Kuroiwa, Kuroiwa is more an "evil counterpart" then a foil to Yagami because you can't really say with Kuwana if his way of doing things was right or wrong. Kuroiwa victims were Yakuza, but as we've met "Good and bad" Yakuza in the series to take into mind "The moral Gray" it's painfully obvious that even the story makes it clear that they were picked in a "No one will miss or care" type of manner! I wouldn't put it past them to go after the homeless if it was a better cover for the experiments under the DELUSION of "their not targeting BAD PEOPLE" where so Kuwana targets were rotten to the core and you REALLY can't feel sorry for them as their just having Judgement that they were able to avoid before coming down on them through another manner) I went off on a tangent I believe, but yeah I get you on that (especially the Edit)

[@purpleplasma4824]

@@paulman34340 Honestly the game has a great story and I can't blame you with it the symbolism is top tier.

[@paulman34340]

@@purpleplasma4824 Yep

[@TeddyOnTheSpot]

Easily one of my favorite final bosses out of RGG's catalogue. The fact you're fighting someone with absolutely no moral code who just wants an excuse to kill, coupled with this amazing music, and the thunderstorm raging outside just make this fight a masterpiece of atmosphere. It's probably the closest a final boss in an RGG game has ever come to reaching horror levels of atmosphere, and honestly, I feel like it doesn't get talked about enough.

[@alkasis8032]

Exactly, I stayed with that feeling, after my brother finished the game we concluded that Kuroiwa is the most terrifying villain of the franchise. And what about when he throws yagami, and the lightning flash and Kuroiwa's look. simply epic

[@pigmuffin3581]

Yeah the first Judgment is easily one of their best games in terms of writing and direction, they absolutely killed tension and atmosphere in this game

[@SoraPierce]

His entrance in his mole costume also was one of the hardest antagonist entrances I've seen in a game.

[@MissCrepis]

I beat this game for the first time right before New Years and honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if the mainstreams just starting to catch up with this plot because of the PC release Not to mention that the Yakuza fanbase is better than most fanbases about not spoiling important plot details.

[@angelusvastator1297]

For a non-horror game, Judgment pretty much nailed the horror.

[@Kyle-cx9te]

I love the tribal qualities of this song. Perfectly captures that your enemy is driven by primal instinct rather than more rational motivations.

[@Keythegreat1]

Damn man this theme represents kuroiwa insane personality quite well it shows how messed up he is inside his head truly horrifying that is. Love it

[@JoninJordan]

Just about every other Yakuza final boss theme has been like *hell yeah, it's the final showdown* This one's *nahh a deranged lunatic is trying to KILL YOU. Fight for your life.*

[@__bepis____bepis__308]

@@JoninJordan it also shows just how hard Yagami is pushing himself to finish this, he was WINDED when he knocked Kuroiwa out the window, yet that lunatic climbed right back up and shot himself with adrenaline. It’s a desperate theme for a desperate fight

[@its_johnH]

@@__bepis____bepis__308 Metal Gear Solid 4 moment right there

[@hue_lord_4208]

@@__bepis____bepis__308 Lets not forget that Yagami was also _hit by a car_ not too long before the fight. It was truly a desperate struggle between the two of them.

[@jakjsjs]

@@__bepis____bepis__308 Without comparing him to kiryu, yagami is ridiculously strong to fight against Kuroiwa and one with adrenaline and still beat him in the end

[@tuskvi]

Patrick Bateman if he was part of the Police Department

[@xaptor8685]

Literally imagining Bateman in his raincoat fighting against Yagami in the final fight

[@tuskvi]

@@xaptor8685 Now let's see Yagami's card

[@Steffe63.5]

"Try getting a reservation from Smile Burger now you stupid bastard!"

[@OfficialArmyman]

“Hey, Yagami!” *Patrick picks up a large piece of broken glass and clutches it in his hand, making his hand bleed, while still looking at Yagami* [ENTER SECOND PHASE]

[@envy1787]

I like to think that Patrick Bateman, Dexter Morgan and Kuroiwa have the same bloodthirst problem, but they decided to deal with it in different ways according to their positions

[@StomeAura]

I love how the versions are all named "variants" sort of like viruses, since Judge Eyes is based of the development of drugs

[@omegaprowler3683]

meh

[@wryytard]

@@omegaprowler3683 mah

[@StomeAura]

@@wryytard muh

[@monkomonkulus]

​@@StomeAuramoh

[@brucemustdie]

​@@monkomonkulusmih

[@solidusgadget]

One thing I love about Penumbra is how different it feels in every fight and phase solely because of different intros and what part of the song they lead to.

[@chargemeupbois]

Kuroiwa is a take on emotionless greed and fame. Kuroiwa is Ayabe except while Ayabe has a sense of justice and helps good people and also bad people, Kuroiwa knows whom to gain the trust of and uses the resources he gets from them to back up his own power. AD-9 was simply a cover for the horrible crimes he does. Now his theme is kind of slow paced and very slasher esque, using tribal drums, bone chilling screams, a very powerful guitar and edm set and some regular drums. It's very interesting. Kuroiwa is absolutely one of the best Yakuza Villains.

[@ItsJustTony]

imo he's the best one. Get's good screentime, doesn't need a super dramatic backstory or some ass-pull (Aizawa). Legitimately one of the strongest characters in the series and puts Lao Gui to shame.

[@jackmclean4120]

@@ItsJustTony I agree with you about Lao Gui, who imo was more of a plot device than an antagonist.

[@Y00bi]

@@jackmclean4120 Lao Gui is definitely just a plot device character. He's only Majima's final boss because Dojima isn't a fighter.

[@drool3616]

@@jackmclean4120 I like how Lao Gui doesn't have a character to him, it would be weird if a contract killer had an entire monologue about killing people, it makes his character straight forward in a good way. To put it in a better way, he uses his own physical actions as a way to convey to people that they're screwed, he doesn't just say it.

[@thatrandomcrit5823]

Bruh, what??? Kuroiwa is the worst antagonist by far. My man is literally a cardboard cutout of a character. He´s a walking plot device with no personality and no apparent motivations. He´s just... there.

[@SuperMophie]

"You're not even a cop. You're a GODAMN ASSASSIN!"

[@werevin649]

THis has the coolest backdrop of any final boss. Storming, perfect lighting, Abandoned hospital, and amazing soundtrack and coreography

[@chronotardis7028]

This is awesome, every part of this brilliant final boss theme in one place!

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

Man, never would I have imagined that Penumbra, a horror game, to become a fighting game... 😳

[@pizzataph]

if there was a game like Penumbra/Amnesia that had the protagonist fight off horrors w/ Crane style, i'd be so happy

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

@@pizzataph, we need a mod for Amnesia: Bunker that adds melee

[@pizzataph]

@@jasonblundelldobebussing Amnesia: Like a Dragon

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

@@pizzataph, like a dragon: the man who forgot his name

[@pizzataph]

@@jasonblundelldobebussing Daniel Kiryu, the Dragon of Brennenburg

[@xYooSu]

i had goosebumps through all the fight lol perfect them for a perfect final boss (LOVE him).

[@lizdevilz7271]

As someone who’s start Yakuza universe games with 0,I daresay,Kuroiwa is scariest Yakuza universe final boss. Also scariest villain,Too. Maybe scarier than old man Hirose himself.

[@yellowbirdie7182]

At least you had a certain bond with Hirose. Worst case scenario - he just stabs you to death. He’s on point, he’ll get the job done and there’s that. And he had at least some morals, some code. Kuroiwa though.. he’ll use you for tests and then mutilate you until his sadistic desires are satisfied.

[@SynthwaveWine]

0:00 - 0:04 That first sound you hear always creeps me out a little. It just sounds like something really disturbing and unsettling is happening or is about to happen straight out of say Red Dead Redemption, Last of Us, LA. Noire, or something post-apocalyptic. Something that gets under your skin. It's really brief and I'm sure it's probably not worth talking about much; I guess I can't help myself or my imagination from wandering lol

[@hernanmunoz7771]

especially if you use headphones....

[@ryanhernandez1877]

I can't hear any sound... My speaker can't transmit it. I sure hope it's not something too awful.

[@CourtesyofBeyonder]

the first bit of Variant A sounds like something you'd hear from a Special Ops movie

[@arjunjiji9508]

i love when it hits 2:10

[@xandymasamune]

The Chad Kuroiwa The Mole this Theme is Sick!!!

[@esotilin32z]

Goated boss fight. Easily one of the best final bosses in the Yakuzaverse

[@chainsawplayin]

When I reached Kuroiwa's first fight, I was relieved to finally see a boss that uses wall kicks. After a bunch of reused fighting styles and fighting the same few yakuza goons as bosses, he sure is a refreshing change.

[@kaz101]

This fight slaps so hard

[@trabezuntine]

probably the most unique yakuza/RGG villain next to this game's sequel unique as in, he has no redeeming qualities unlike pretty much every other yakuza final boss he's just a psychopathic killer who just picks whichever side lets him kill the most people and get away with it his theme is very similar to him, it's very tense and terrifying. this isn't really a badass theme like yakuza 3's final boss or a sorrowful one like yakuza 1 or 2. instead of fighting simply for the protag's ideas or values, you're pretty much fighting to stop him from killing you outright

[@heebdeeb]

Iwami and every other asshole in 6 is also pretty irredeemable

[@justsomenumpty]

You know you fucked up when Kuroiwa just stares at the ground and then immediately frowns at you

[@MaskOfLimbo]

My health bar was just half because FUCK those police guys with guns (I had the second health upgrade, btw). I didn't brought ANY medic bags, just stuff I bought on Poppo. This fight was INSANE. I had to be on my A game because he was putting me on red everytime I messed up, got greedy or wanted to show off. When I beat him, my supplies were running out and I was getting desperate. I was relieved as heck. Then the third phase begun, and I didn't do anything but focus once more and do my FREAKING BEST not to die. All in all, BEST FIGHT IN THE BEST!!!

[@lycanbladefang4768]

How i beat him: -Tiger drop -He's down -ZAKOGA! -Tiger Drop -ZAKOGA! -Tiger drop

[@Makron5]

I got past the armed cops by targeting them first, as soon as I see a gun, beeline and KO that dude

[@anotherplayer5745]

Rgg bosses are really threatening when you don't use healing items

[@Moister356]

Rage Mode helped me a lot on this fight. Also had my health bar screwed up by that cop with the electric batton.

[@caeruleumluna9630]

This whole music screams *e v i l* to its' lungs.

[@TheGamerClown]

Don't worry I won't arrest you for obstruction on this 😈 ...

[@rugmanchampwow]

The First Ever Rgg game made in History that could make a man shit his britches, We gotta keep up the grind Yokoyama!

[@rugmanchampwow]

Which included nagoshi aswell

[@anatoliasmercenary.]

I’m insanely torn between Aizawa and Kuroiwa on who the best final boss is in the entire franchise, both are insane but Kuroiwa genuinely scared me and I went into the fight with absolutely ZERO healing items, didn’t switch to easy cause I wanted to feel the desperation happening in the fight.

[@anotherplayer5745]

It hits differently when the boss is a menace and even the protagonist is like "oh shit" during the fight

[@anatoliasmercenary.]

@@anotherplayer5745 Kuroiwa damn near made me shit myself, he’s genuinely scary

[@takuyagamii]

aizawa was the most fun, kuroiwa was scary and hard

[@den-lavender]

no healing items feels like the right way to fight kuroiwa, i fought him with almost no healing items and my hands my sweating like crazy by the time i was able to finish him, RGG studios did such an excellent job at making a horrifying monstrosity of a man with all intent on killing you

[@jakjsjs]

This is the best

[@angelusvastator1297]

represents both the depravity of kuroiwa and unwavering conviction of yagami wow

[@solidusgadget]

What conviction?

[@pato6738]

@@solidusgadget Yagami was probably having a stroke while walking to the hospital after that bridge fall. And he still chose to fight Kuroiwa one on one to save the other antagonist

[@inosq3985]

Ok, at first, I didn't like this theme... But the more I listen to it, the more I like it, the more I think it's a masterpiece and the more I think this is the best final boss theme I ever heared in my life !

[@Sairon0876]

Can't believe it took me 2 years to appreciate this theme. It was worth getting to this point.

[@inosq3985]

@@Sairon0876 but now Unwavering Belief absolutely destroyed this theme 🗿

[@Sairon0876]

@@inosq3985 And that, didn't take 2 years for me to reach that conclusion. Dig in your heels is sick.

[@fegeleinherman8587]

Same

[@FungalFury]

@@inosq3985 Unwavering belief is genuinely underwhelming, just as the setting for the fight is, the track itself is basically just a worse version of dig in your heels.

[@dhivydhimanth1960]

Are these tracks not available separately elsewhere officially?! I've tried to search and haven't found anything. Just the plain "Penumbra" on spotify. How have these been recovered? Audio ripping from the game? I wish these were available as separate tracks, the variations, though slight, mean I can make a Playlist of the same 3 songs with slight variations. I see that as an absolute win.

[@anatoliasmercenary.]

Its criminal how little screentime kuroiwa had

[@Hilversumborn]

Nah, less is more.

[@jamaaljackson3877]

my favorite boss of the franchise

[@TheSkyLoser]

way more intimidating than Soma

[@AceFromGorillaz]

Judgement was so good imo better than lost story wise

[@Sal_II14]

everybody agree on this but LJ as whole is a better game and the story was one of the best imo even though its not on JE level.

[@repulser93]

The ideal theme for Tyrian Callows.

[@sercan1509]

YAGAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[@TheNext-corp25]

Umbra + penumbra + antumbra = a perfect theme. Also what was the "ending" variant name?

[@RobloxIsAverage]

never thought the only thing i would remember from this song would be kuroiwa yelling at yagami

[@Jaegered]

anyone have the link to the ending variant? it sounds so good wtf ok its apparently the ost version of penumbra b which is just the same thing but with the added ending, 4:22 is the timestamp

[@i-papiseacucumberi-3278]

Just search Penumbra Version D.

[@Jaegered]

@@i-papiseacucumberi-3278 i’m listening to it and i don’t hear the part could you provide a timestamp

[@Pastàár]

@@Jaegered Bro didnt have an answer 💀

[@neththeobnoxioussponge8929]

Thanks for doing this man Most people would just leave it and not notify other people who are lookinfor this particular part

[@maxisdead2153]

@@Jaegered Search "Judgment Unreleased OST - Penumbra ~Finale~, don't thank me.

[@bourne.]

YAAAGAAMIIII !!!!

[@apurpledragon]

Kuroiwa is literally just a better version of Lao Gui, and you all know I'm not wrong on this one.

[@majimapyro370]

They are both very extremely different characters whose only distinguishable similarity is killing for money

[@apurpledragon]

@@majimapyro370 Nope, both serve as what the characters (Yagami and Majima) would've become if they went coocoo for Coco Puffs just like them. Difference is that Kuroiwa is more involved in the story, has an actual purpose and is built up as a huge threat for the main cast. Lao Gui is barely undercooked, serves next to no purpose in the story with him showing up 3 times, and is overall just a joke of a character.

[@pizzataph]

​@@apurpledragon lao gui's just a hitman Dojima hired who got completely mopped kuroiwa's a stone-cold killer who doesn't take shit from some lawyer absolutely agree

[@VideoGaming4Dummies]

*Tokyo PD Organized Crime Division* *MITSURU KUROIWA*

[@snowrhino675]

4:22 9:38

[@shadowmamba95]

If they were to reuse this boss track, they would do it when either Kasuga or Yagami has to fight an inner demon of himself.

[@FungalFury]

I still think they should have let kiryu fight a ptsd demon in one of his games, maybe as a special post-game extra for yakuza 6. Like imagine a fusion of all of kiryu's most impactful fights, a shadowed formless figure whose face keeps changing to represent his worst nightmares. (Fights like nishiki, joji, mine, ryuji, arase, shibusawa etc.)

[@caeruleumluna9630]

@@FungalFury Let's not forget Ptrch. Hirose's and Goda's fight, too.

[@FungalFury]

@@caeruleumluna9630 Was just a few examples :p

[@FungalFury]

@HamonionI think having the simple underlying melody of each theme along with a new track would do that justice

[@EskraxTheSleepless]

@@FungalFury I can definitely see that happening in a DLC of Yakuza: LAD ((If that game ever gets a DLC that is, lmao)) where Ichiban and his friends help Kiryu battle the demon formed from Kiryu’s traumatic battles ((AKA the one you created)) and the boss would imitate Tendo and Aoki’s movesets ((Probably to remind Ichiban that his battle between Yosuke Tendo and Ryo Aoki will remain and ALWAYS remain in his head)) whilst taking on a bastardized fusion between Aoki and Tendo then takes on a disturbing form of Joon Gi Han from Yakuza 6 ((To haunt Yeonsu Kim aka Yakuza LAD’s Joon Gi Han)) while imitating both Yakuza: Like a dragon’s Joon and Yakuza 6’s Joon’s movesets on it’s first phase, THEN BEGINS imitating the movesets of all the other final bosses and their appearances in the most distorted and disturbing manner, whilst imitating Mine’s dodge animation, Nishiki’s voice, Ryuji’s idle animation and imitating Toru’s boss fight and on the final phase, it soon uses ALL of the perfectly replicated movesets, uses all of the movesets of all previous bosses and whilst using it’s own movesets that while are incredibly powerful, are predictable to avoid and if this thing makes up it’s own true form, it would definitely be an incomprehensible lovecraftian-esque abomination that uses the Yamata no Orochi as a Tattoo.

[@패닉현상]

Awesome…

[@takabonnbc]

2:13

[@Leon_S._Kennedy]

KUROOOOOOOIWAAAA!

[@user-nl3ip2cy6r]

14:39

[@さぶいちは-u6k]

9:37

[@FriskECN]

The Variant C isnt actually Penumbra C ver,it was the D version

[@hue_lord_4208]

And Version B was actually Version C

[@FriskECN]

@@hue_lord_4208 Yeah lol

[@shadowmamba95]

Version B is the OST intro, correct?

[@FriskECN]

@@shadowmamba95 Yeah,thats the B ver

[@aerodynamo4874]

@@shadowmamba95 version B isn't actually the OST intro, it's Kuroiwa 3.

[@패닉현상]

Fucxxx adrenalin lol

[@viandantelaggante794]

In case Yuno Gasai becomes the final Boss of a game, this soundtrack would be a must.

[@Isarrot]

Alzheimer's is no joke

[@dedsecretr0255]

I like 2:43

[@Sonque123]

Who is here after searching up for a silly spider with a singing shadow

[@umbraios7523]

Wait what?

[@son1c_gamer]

fuck voidwalker why does he get several one shot moves smh

[@KD44553]

I'm glad to see a Craftwars Knockoff player here 🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@StraightWhiteManRbx]

Mole

[@asteroid889]

this isn't phantasm

[@XxDragon345]

he did nothing wrong

[@KingGesura]

Trying to justify a psychopath that had no redeemed quality? Man i like Kuroiwa but he's a Psychopath like truly terrfying... Redeemed Quality is none to him, he's killing for fun ☠️

[@shingkung3974]

⁠@@KingGesuraI wish the op was saying the Kuroiwa didn’t gouged out ppl’s eyes statement

[@KingGesura]

@@shingkung3974 really weird fr lol

[@edrigus1503]

Wrong final boss pal

[@user-nl3ip2cy6r]

9:38