Judging Nintendo's Wonderful New Games - Delayed Input with Kyle Bosman

[@nth460]

This guy is criminally underrated. There are KZbinrs in this genre with millions of subs and none of them have one ounce of the talent this guy has in his little finger

[@andrebaptista8284]

Couldn't agree with you more. He is literally the best writer when it comes to games journalism. He is so good at guiding the viewer and can see things for what they are as well as seeing them from the "fanboy" perspective too. Best in th biz

[@knleonhart]

The best thing is that he’s done more than this. Creating a whole animated series, producing concept albums, and organizing game jams. The talent certainly isn’t limited to this or that. Part of the struggle is also finding the drive to consistently innovate while fighting your own flaws and dealing with a fickle online ecosystem. It’s all certainly admirable.

[@The_SOB_II]

But they are good at clickbait

[@28_Spokes]

He doesn’t play the clickbait/thumbnail/soulless persona game, which is why I love him.

[@RubMySweatyThighs]

What talent lol the "jokes" fall flat

[@TheDanteEX]

Remember how 10 years ago Kyle would compare Nintendo's actions of the time to a big, dumb elephant? This feels like a beautiful rhyme at the end of a decade long stanza.

[@quagthias]

Great emotions were experienced for each segment of this week's Delayed Input.

[@alexanderbradburn6511]

Okay, that does change things. Please allow me to say: never mind.

[@WhyYouWahYoo]

I know Google is probably wrong, but the idea of Nintendo’s guiding principles being simultaneously “unique” and “spiteful” is spot on and hillarious

[@Ali-fs7ze]

Google's not wrong, they're just homonyms.

[@Starkride48]

They’re not quite homonyms. The final vowel of “Dokuso” meaning unique is elongated, so it’s technically “dokusou,” whereas the word meaning poison is just “dokuso.” Putting that “u” after the “o” looks awkward so it’s often left off when romanized.

[@BoomstickGaming]

2026 Mario Platypus. 2029 Mario Cosplay Mario. 2031 Mario Tanooki Suit. (nostalgia play) 2035 Mario Hedge Hire me Nintendo.

[@freeze-wr7iv]

Definitely my favourite background so far - gives the framing depth in a great way, love it! 🙏

[@omensoffate]

He’s copying the between two ferns vibe

[@lukemoonwalker8444]

"I wonder when I'll be satisfied...this is my game of the year" wise words, wise words from a really weird man

[@denimchicken104]

That question answers itself when you finally go a day or two voluntarily without playing the game. It happened to me. I feel like I’ve seen enough after 250+ hours. Still have 2 temples to do lol.

[@skieth9999]

Your videos are genuinely great breakdowns, I like how much more thoughtful they are than a lot of more straightforward recaps of the industry.

[@TheRedWisdom]

I just came across the word dokusou (独創) this week in my Japanese studies. I had no idea that specific word was one of Nintendos guiding principles. What a weird coincidence. The service Jisho translates it as originality. While these past years hasn't been stellar for Nintendo when it comes to games that expresses originality. I think if you look at the literal meaning when you read each kanji by itself. I would read it like self (doku) and creation (sou): self-creation. specific meanings being Alone/spontaneously/single/(Germany???) (独) and Genesis/start/originate (創). I think that really encompasses Nintendo with always going their own way. Sometimes stubbornly to their own detriment. But often in a way that brings success in an unexpected fashion. While Super Mario Bros Wonder by itself does not look very Dokusou to me. The fact that they still insist on creating 2d mario games and market them as their big mainline game is unheard of compared to other games publishers and is very Dokusou to me.

[@ariwl1]

That makes sense to me. Nintendo makes what they want and we all take it or leave it. There was a time in gaming where 2D/3D mascot platformers were to games what first-person shooters were in the 2000's. Nowadays, platforming games in the major developer space is dominated almost entirely by Nintendo with the occasional Sonic game here and there. Nintendo really only iterates on themselves, and it works because even if nothing has really changed in years, even games that are heavily inspired by Nintendo games don't feel like a Nintendo game.

[@Zamzummin]

9:51 I for one can't wait to see what elephant Daisy looks like.

[@The_RedVIII]

The turtleneck, the leaves in the background. It kinda give me cozy autumn vibes, despite being summer. And I love it.

[@magnusalexander2965]

For some reason the fans in my computer went into overdrive the moment Iwata appeared on the screen, as if the computer has trouble processing him

[@SinghROAR]

Star Ocean 2 remake has 12 year old me ecstatic. My favorite game announcement in YEARS.

[@natekiellach2940]

Opening bit has me imagining a Nintendo boardroom meeting where after a long pause Miyamoto is just like “what if this time….Mario can be a ratboy”

[@TectonicImprov]

Hey, I-a resent that!

[@PSIChris]

"...a baby!" We did baby mario.

[@KineBuds]

"not an age of wonder" ... pause ... car horn ... perfection Kyle

[@IFinishedAVideoGame]

I would kill for a full Kyle breakdown of the Olympics of Esports

[@NebenNiveau]

独創 (Dokusou) with a long sounding o means Originality. What you searched for was 毒素 (Dokuso). Nintendo should have made more effort when they put the word into romaji.

[@cowheaddoe2544]

Gonna be making “Gutter Wonder” a t-shirt. Thanks Kyle.

[@GrayHairedGamer]

LMAO This was my favorite part.

[@GreyGoshawk]

独創 ど く そう Do Ku So U When transliterating from Japanese to English. The sounds that extends the length of the syllable is often left out. For example, if you directly transliterate the characters for Tokyo and Osaka: Toukyou Oosaka For a native english speaker without Japanese knowlege the odds are they'd pronouce it "more incorrectly" with the actual spelling. Another style is to use the line on time to indicate a longer syllable sound e.g. dokusō

[@natryamar]

Yes, the 毒素 どくそ　(dokuso) he mentioned in the video were different kanji characters

[@Tankallex]

Kyle Bosman is one of my favorite people on KZbin. I’ve watched his content since Gametrailers. Definitely should have MANY more subscribers than what he currently has.

[@AdderMoray]

Did this man really just say a 14 million + seller probably wasn't coming back?

[@hubhikarilives]

The past three weeks felt like an eternity. Welcome back!!

[@shaggysweetness]

Agreed that your Mario RPG take is bad. I personally love how unique and memorable it is in design and happy it still will be

[@michaelomara]

turtleneck is creepier than the creepy season. like he runs a midsouth sushi bar and library pop up. keep it up

[@superbro6413]

I'm really gonna dig this season's "Steve Jobs' turtleneck" vibe you have going on

[@Smigglesworth11]

At first i thought the wonder bar was a progress bar showing how the whole presentation was going to turn out with the ups and downs. The idea of knowing what was coming made me feel -- low wonder. Then i realised it was a bar to show how each item made you feel individually and the excitement of not knowing what was coming made me feel -- high wonder. Then i realised if all it was, was a 1 to 10 wonder scale bar why was there vertical waves at different heights? The unimportants of the waves on the wonder bar made me overall feel -- moderate wonder. I can't wait to see how your next famous wonder bar video turns out, but please make the bar more wonderful.

[@Neoxon619]

The new WarioWare is actually a direct sequel to Smooth Moves, even being called “Super Smooth Moves” in Japan. That said, Nintendo deemed ARMS a success & even included Min Min in Smash. While Ring Fit Adventure sold over 15 million units (more than any Splatoon game).

[@RappingNinja]

However, Wii Fit also sold way more than any Splatoon AND more than Ring Fit, HOWEVER…! “Nintendo Switch Fit” does not exist. I hope there’s an Arms 2. Much the first Splatoon, the first Arms feels like a promising first draft.

[@fantasythinkerfan]

He’s talking about wonder, not success.

[@sonicmania9993]

Yeah, Kyle's brief side-comment on Ring Fit is totally wrong. It's in the top 15 Switch games as far as all-time sales, and #8 in Japan -- despite shortages when it was most popular. And that's for a game that you had to pay $20 extra for the ring! Guaranteed to come back in some way in the future. I'm actually surprised they haven't taken advantage of Ring Fit's success to release a $10-20 DLC pack on Switch with new workouts etc -- would sell huge and be so easy to do.

[@AConstanTole]

Wild, Bosman... That Star Ocean game was MAXMIMUM wonder. Every classic rpg can be remade this way and I wouldn't mind forever. Shit looks gorgeous, even down to the portrait art for these characters. You right about everything else, tho...

[@rayman1900]

Totally expected that honk after that pause, Kyle

[@jacobeid]

The way Kyle sang "this is" and goes right back into it. Perfect.

[@Ridnarhtim]

It's weird cause it's just a remake but Super Mario RPG is the most excited I've been for a game in ... possibly years? All I've been thinking for the last two days is "I want it now!"

[@Ridnarhtim]

"The next thing is coming out next year probably" We've been saying that for 3 years.

[@scikoolaid]

Felt same way, it looks like exactly what I would want it to be, same game, same gameplay, just looks amazing. But! The key here is, they built the framework to continue the series if it does well. That is how I would prefer it done, bring back the real deal rebuilt with current codebase, maybe yeah add some post-game content or maybe some DLC if you want it. But then seriously consider making a sequel that can take some risks on changing how it plays new features/characters similar look/design. The music is getting re-done too, can't wait.

[@tlis4724]

We’ve entered the Bosman Turtleneck Era. God have mercy on us all.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

*Koopaneck

[@Sjahko_]

Wow! I didn't know you were still making videos Kyle! Glad I found your channel and immediately subscribed! What I wanted to say, I got a little bit emotional watching Iwata again. I didn't really follow Nintendo and the Directs when he was still alive. Living throughout the Switch and even though in all its glory and hype. It still misses something essential. The lighthearted silliness and goofiness Iwata brought to these Directs. The actual head of the company putting so much passion and love into addressing the fans and playerbase. That's something so special and unique which I feel doesn't really happen anymore. Bless his soul.

[@ASDisastersama]

Kyle, one of my favorite videos you made back in the day is the big dumb elephant bit where Nintendo during the Wii U era didn't made any game fans expected, Nintendo just walked forward saying "Is good to be me!" When I saw Mario elephant I was convinced you were going to tie that joke with this video. I guess that but was too obscure by your modern audience.

[@MasDouc]

I mean it was 10 years ago he probably just forgot about it. He's brought back other Final Bosman jokes as a nod.

[@antedeguemon1194]

What I take from this video is that Kyle needs to play Star Ocean 2

[@ShowerSkeleton]

Delayed Input is back and my Wonder Meter is maxed out

[@duudsoupblb8399]

I really like the wondermeter logo design, must've been a great effort.

[@Dyno_98]

0:53 Yeah Kyle, I absolutely get you, its an absolute wonder when I'm exploring the underground, I see a big shadow and wonder "Wow, what will this be?" and I encounter my 17° Talus. Or when I pick a rock to find my 361° Korok. A total wonder.

[@KantanJapan]

Just to clarify on "Dokuso", although it's spelt the same in English they're pronounced differently in Japanese. Dokuso (独創) meaning originality should really be spelt 'Dokusou'; the 'o' sound is extended at the end of the word. Dokuso (毒素) meaning poison ends with a more abrupt and sharp 'so' sound. You can also see they're both spelt with completely different kanji.

[@InnerRise]

Or Dokuso is pronounced so quickly the "-so" is silent and the word word wounds like "Doe-Koos"

[@dongato90]

Finding out Kyle is still on KZbin after years (perhaps a decade) of not watching him, is like discovering Dokuso!

[@FrothingFanboy]

He achieved a decade on the internet this February.🙂kzbin.info/www/bejne/hailZZyaerqNb8k

[@NeoncloudFF]

"Great Emotions were experienced" is my new favorite phrase XD

[@hododod246]

Ring fit adventure is definitely coming back. It is widely successful.

[@darksenshi1337]

Hi, the word you where looking for was 独創 (dokusou) -> meaning "originality"

[@MegaMagicalMegan]

I was thinking to myself that the word had to have a U at the end but it was still kind of funny

[@cosmosofinfinity]

Really funny, that, since Mario and Zelda games are so predictably formulaic. It's not really the games themselves that are original, just the way they do thoughtful level design keeps the surprises coming

[@DarkEggplant]

RingFit Adventure sold like 15 million copies. I’d put my money on it coming back at some point.

[@tuliobednarczukpecinemisko5606]

The part that I liked from Super Mario Wonder is that it seens that they removed the time limit to complete the stage.

[@franciscobutte]

The problem with Super Mario RPG is that is too perfect to be touched.

[@glungusgongus]

Naw it looks old and feels old

[@JazGalaxy]

It’s funny how I keep seeing KZbinrs either say it’s the best thing in the world that they’re not changing it or that they need to change it. (It’s the best thing in the world that they didn’t change it)

[@shaggysweetness]

@@glungusgongus You are required to at least be alive and exist when the original game was released to have that opinion.

[@glungusgongus]

@@shaggysweetness No I dont.

[@fathercashew]

I’m gonna need a full episode dedicated to explaining this weird Olympics eSports situation in which no one in the actual games industry was consulted.

[@The_SOB_II]

Thanks for being Kyle once again! It's great when you do that

[@ThumpingThromnambular]

Is Peach going to be some kind of Sailor Scout? I love the term 'paltry wonder'

[@dv3982]

That opening got me straight away, Something told me he’d be more attracted to a game with Dark Prince in the title, for some reason.

[@arthurcoser]

I think Super Mario RPG is too much of a niche for it to get a FF/RE reimagination style remake. The one-to-one recreation is enough to satisfy the fans.

[@TheRedWisdom]

I can say for me. Who played this game in the early 2000s for the first time. I've never viewed this game as something that did push the envelope graphically. I had already seen FF7 when I played this for the first. This remake looks to 1:1 capture the original style. If they don't mess this up I think this will be the definitive way to play this. As a fan this is exactly what I want. But I agree what Kyles sentiment. This would be more in the style of an HD remaster rather then a remake. Though it may be a nitpick. There are similarities to this and Myst(2021) where they went from having prerendered 3d sequences of the original game to actually have the game running real time in 3d.

[@ThisAlbino]

Maybe, but remaking it like FF/RE would likely make it interesting for a much larger audience, so Nintendo kept it niche on purpose.

[@DavidTomGault]

All I could think after the DQM game was "Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince of Nerd Media". I'm not proud of it, but it's true.

[@Rorchord]

Had to scroll far too far down the comments for this

[@thedeceptivekhan]

As an elder statesman gamer it really bothers me that the FF remakes don't include an option to play in the oldschool turn based style. I LOVE that Mario RPG isn't messing with the formula. I say take notes SquareEnix, this is how you do a remake of a beloved RPG.

[@Zkarts]

Great episode again, but just wow, that entire final segment is just gold

[@codyforet8394]

Every time Kyle says "this is" I simultaneously think of the song and how The Lock Picking Lawyer starts every video. Anyone else?

[@tuchenciotuch3976]

Me too!!

[@JDefective]

I get why Nintendo didn’t make a lot of new IPs for the Switch because the Wii U wasn’t a successful console for Nintendo so they pushed their beloved franchises like Mario and Zelda and Kirby and Metroid and Pokémon to a new spin to stay pretty relevant to consumers to buy the Switch and they did pretty well. Also I think there will be a sequel to Ring Fit Adventure because it sold a lot of copies. Hope you’re feeling well Kyle

[@ruekurei88]

Arms, LABO, Astral Chain, Ringfit, is about good enough I imagine. They were all received relatively well and sold well enough. But the problem is, all those studios making those games are also working on multiple much bigger franchises as well. Hard to crank out new IPs, when Mario Kart, Super Mario Bros, Zelda, Animal Crossing etc, need their new entries as well. I think they may need to invest in more partnerships though, but most third party for hire devs are either dead, were bought out, or are basically porting houses these days.

[@JDefective]

@@ruekurei88 Maybe Nintendo should invest more partnerships to make new games or let their developers like Monolith Soft or Next Level Games to make their own unique games because I would love for them to do that.

[@ruekurei88]

@@JDefective Monolith Soft does make their own games. They were rumoured to have another action game coming out on Switch, but that's probably been moved over. I've never seen NLG even attempt a new IP that was decently large scale. Most of the new IP stuff I've seen from them were smaller scale. I don't even know what sort of games they'd attempt to make if given full rein and not tied to Nintendo IPs. They do have other studios they still do collaborations with though, but as usual, they bomb and no one remembers them for the most part(Code Name STEAM and Ever Oasis, Pandora's Tower, Disaster Day of Crisis etc). And again, MonolithSoft and NLG are both working on multi-million selling franchises on their own already. I do want to see that action game that Monolith Soft was rumoured to be working on though.

[@JDefective]

@@mrburger I am watching the same video because Kyle mentioned in the video there hasn't been a major slew of Nintendo New IPs for the Switch and I'm telling the supposed history as to why Nintendo did not make a big dokusou splash for the Switch. Hope that happens for their next console. Also, I know Kyle is already good at video games like The Legend of Zelda because I have been a fan of his work since 2015 and I know his least favourite Zelda game is A Link to the Past.

[@TotemoGaijin]

@@ruekurei88 Arms was such a missed opportunity. If it hadn't been so barebones, I could've seen it being almost as big as Splatoon. Lack of stuff like story, other modes, dlc characters kinda left it doomed from the get go.

[@StarWarsUnited123]

Ring Fit sold well over 10 million copies. A sequel is just a matter of time.

[@GlazeonthewickeR]

Great way to start this day off, coffee just went on… thanks Kyle!

[@butterf1ytsunami]

Their next announcement needs to be Metroid Prime 4.

[@zhontigue]

Finally, I was waiting for Kyle to tell me how to feel about elephant Mario

[@samuelstephens6904]

You don’t feel about elephant Mario. Elephant Mario feels about you (with his trunk of course).

[@FDGRonin]

I don't always agree with you Kyle but I can never deny that you do bring the most unique wonder of any KZbin channel.

[@tuchenciotuch3976]

Does anyone know how we could get this guy to at least half a million subs? I can't live knowing this amazing content has a very niche audience

[@MasDouc]

I kinda like it that way. If this channel blew up and became huge it wouldn't be the same

[@kylevesa2810]

As a person that prefers 2d Mario games over 3d Mario games, Super Mario Wonder looks like it controls like classic 2d Mario games and not like New Super Mario Bros. For me New Super Mario Bros series was the worst thing they did to Mario and did not enjoy any of those games. Wonder's art style is a bit better than New Super Mario, but the controls are the most important part for me, still need to feel it for myself.

[@JazGalaxy]

I liked new super Mario alright, but I agree that it was vastly inferior to the original games. It felt like they eliminated challenge and made the whole thing slipperier so that it could be a multiplayer game that didn’t take much thought. I really want a return to World, which has the deepest mental game in the series so far and was legitimately challenging.

[@AdventuresAwait123]

Thanks for this perspective. NSMBU was so floaty arg

[@Fellipe2k5]

The Peach game is like Puppeteer(PS3) For me is Wonder Plus

[@elmarakovideo]

Thanks for remembering Puppeteer. Awesome game, but it completely flopped for Sony.

[@MonsterMJ]

that backround tho great episode kyle

[@MarcelE80]

Having Luigi's Mansion 3, one of the best looking games on Switch, it's hard to go back or be excited for the 3DS port even though it has been visually upgraded

[@The_RedVIII]

Great emotions were experienced... watching this video.

[@lust.and.lunacy]

I love the new backdrop, it feels cozy.

[@Dratio]

Dragon Quest Monsters is such a good series. I hope people will give it a chance

[@lkjhgfdas7]

Awesome as usual Kyle! Super Mario Bros. Wonder doesn't have the "New" part in the title though.

[@Gnomicidal]

Bro, Ringfit sold 15 million units, it's absolutely coming back

[@EvanSmith1000]

That opener was fucking hilarious Kyle

[@Starfals]

The sports thing is on point. What were they thinking... honestly.

[@NDenizen]

4:56 This hits different when you've seen the Detective Pikachu Corruptions

[@Frisket]

Even though I love SMRPG I also had some reservations about it. It seemed to be lacking an extra ingredient of style. While I would argue the original was a very unique aesthetic at the time. A straight conversion doesn't do the game justice. I think a good example to look at would be the Link to The Past remake. Very stylish making it look fresh while being true to the original games design. SMRPG needed some of that.

[@Jaynna09]

A new Kyle era is upon us.

[@CharlieGreene24242]

Every single time i hear that car horn i laugh but i DONT KNOW WHY ITS THERE

[@RougeMephilesClone]

Final Fantasy 7 Remake and the Resident Evil remakes past RE1 are re-imaginings, not remakes, and invented new strengths to replace old ones. There is and always will be a place for what Super Mario RPG is doing, that being a perfect recreation of the old product's strengths with some additional polish.

[@wooordwooord4712]

Thats just making up your own definition of the word "remake" - it sounds like in your mind that remake should be something that is shot for shot the original... whereas remake is really just to make something again. There is no hard rule that says remaking something has to be the exact same as the original. I can understand that's what someone would want, but that doesn't mean these examples are not remakes.

[@Tziouv]

Looking good was one of Super Mario RPGs strengths to begin with, and it doesn't have that. Watch the video again, slower this time. Pay close attention to the words being spoken.

[@BobberWCC]

Great emotions were experienced while watching this video

[@Davey_Cakes]

As cool as it is that they're doing a modern coat of paint for Mario RPG, and I'm happy people are excited for it...c'mon. The game is a 1:1 translation with zero creative liberty taken. Not to be a negative Nancy but they could've done SOMETHING to play it a little less safe.

[@mi2-c035]

1-2 Switch! is a new IP and it got a sequel. Also I wouldn't dismiss the idea of a Ring Fit 2, that game sold like crazy.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

They took the "New" off the New Super Mario Bros. logo, but they still kept that same font of the New Super Mario Bros. logo... If this is a whole NEW Super Mario Bros. from New Super Mario Bros., it demands a logo with its own font that evokes wonder

[@just_eirik]

I can’t wait for Mario Wonder! Looks so fun!

[@PhoTC]

I'm just mad Dokuso was the reason Miyamoto gave for not having a new F-Zero many years ago - what can they do that is new? - and then we get a more drugged out 2d Mario, we get a new Pikmin (and you can have night missions! and underground! wowie!)

[@NightFlyStudio]

Lol, Ring Fit is definitely coming back. The game sold better than most games on Switch, PlayStation or Xbox.

[@sonicmania9993]

15.38 million sales (as of May 2023) is what Nintendo reports. That's Top 15 and maybe even Top 10 for Switch game sales, and selling for $80 USD. I'd call that a major success for a new IP.

[@JazGalaxy]

I feel like nobody is talking about how the super princess peach game seems to use a peach model that is based on the film.

[@dnarwhat]

Great episode!

[@Yoshizuyuner]

Ring fit actually sold pretty well I heard

[@Boonehams]

Wait, Mario turns INTO an elephant instead of donning an elephant-themed suit. I wonder what that's about. I wonder what Elephant Yoshi will look like. Will Elephant Toad still be small and have a weird mushroom head? *honk*

[@metalmilitia89]

Generating new demand in an area that is not bare necessity is what drives innovation.

[@MrGregory777]

​@johnmcfadin1951 ooh something will be done about climate change. Nature will heal on our corpses.

[@shecklesmack9563]

Xbox’s number one problem. “Hey guys here’s some Japanese games!” Switch, PS5, and PC: 👀

[@tremelo8508]

Balan "Wonder"world. Never forget!!!

[@CardboardJoJo]

This might be my fav of your videos.

[@neojd]

Gotta say Kyle, when I saw you bust out the turtleneck, I was expecting a new Gamescom song. 😅

[@Jader7777]

Note the incredible restraint Kyle displays as he doesn't make a single "Nintendo is a dopey elephant" reference for the entire video.

[@luxul1879]

I had to stop chewing my chicken pad thai when you mentioned the esport Olympic events. I lost my appetite. 😢

[@subliminallime4321]

I'm definitely gonna play that Mario Wonder game, but then again I'm one of those weirdos that loves New Super Mario U.

[@Deedubau]

Kyle doing his own thing makes me so happy! I've been a huge fan of him since Final Bosman and couldn't stand certain people I found annoying on easy allies.

[@WeeklyComedian]

Ring Fit has been huge so I wouldn't be surprised if it came back

[@denimchicken104]

Links awakening was a 1:1 remake of a nearly 30 year old game we now have on NSO, for $60. Now they’re doing it with Mario RPG, another nearly 30 year old game that should be available on NSO, for $60. I’m not saying these games aren’t “nice”, but damn. Nintendo is so clearly putting the least amount of ambition into the highest return with these games.

[@InnerRise]

"Highest return"

[@elmarakovideo]

Link's Awakening on Switch had a better character model update. The new Mario RPG squishes Mario Party 3D models ignoring the Squaresoft color palettes and render style. Complete Fail for $59.99.🙄

[@demo_sphere]

He went outside?>?? Incredible video as always Bosman