Juice it or lose it - a talk by Martin Jonasson & Petri Purho

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grapefrukt

grapefrukt

Күн бұрын

Try the game here: grapefrukt.com/f/games/juicy-b... (ESC for menu)
Fork us on github: github.com/grapefrukt/juicy-b...
"A juicy game feels alive and responds to everything you do
tons of cascading action and response for minimal user input. "
Big thanks to Niklas Ström for making music and sound effects for us and to Stina for filming.
References:
www.robertpenner.com/easing/
www.game-feel.com/
www.gamasutra.com/view/feature...
sol.gfxile.net/interpolation/
Emily Short - Make it juicy!
emshort.wordpress.com/2008/05/...
12 Principles of Animation
minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/aim/a_n...
The Art of Diablo 3
gdcvault.com/play/1015306/The-...
Easing related:
www.evernote.com/shard/s1/not...
blogs.msdn.com/b/shawnhar/arch...
www.timotheegroleau.com/Flash/...

Пікірлер: 295
@00SmartAss00
@00SmartAss00 3 жыл бұрын
12:52 "classic Kyle Gabler trick" For those of you who didn't know: Kyle Gabler is a man responsible for "World of Goo", which, if you'd ask me: 1) is a true masterpiece 2) really proves that adding eyes to things actually works xD
@shytut
@shytut 5 жыл бұрын
I watch this once a year to remind myself how important polish is
@deanvangreunen6457
@deanvangreunen6457 2 жыл бұрын
come back, its been 2 years. "..yaaay.." - juice
@weblure
@weblure 2 жыл бұрын
Oh joy, I can wait for another indie remake of a classic game that just spams a shitton of assests and effects, and then repackages it and ships it off as a pay-to-win mobile game.
@misfire8771
@misfire8771 2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing that right now haha
@pixerpinecone
@pixerpinecone 2 жыл бұрын
@@weblure Yes, along with juice you have to actually have flair to back it up or else that accursedness is what you end up with.
@Alixdkari
@Alixdkari Жыл бұрын
i don't think, historically speaking, polish is a very important language
@yupekosi413
@yupekosi413 3 жыл бұрын
as soon as the eyes and smile were added i was prepared to die for the little block guy
@googleboughtmee
@googleboughtmee 9 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the bottom half of their screen very much
@indikaWijesooriya
@indikaWijesooriya 5 жыл бұрын
Go here and get the full screen : grapefrukt.com/f/games/juicy-breakout/
@haos4574
@haos4574 5 жыл бұрын
@@indikaWijesooriya not showing up
@indikaWijesooriya
@indikaWijesooriya 5 жыл бұрын
@@haos4574 You have to enable flash player permission from chrome. (click the lock icon start of url bar) Also it doesnt work in mobile in flash is not supported.
@senorbill374
@senorbill374 3 жыл бұрын
RiP flash
@LunarBulletDev
@LunarBulletDev 2 жыл бұрын
This is 10 years old? What an amazing talk! Just like wine it gets better with time!
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like I was just given super powers.
@EnricoUniverse
@EnricoUniverse 8 жыл бұрын
14:45 even the real life camera began to shake, I thought everything was going to explode while the guy in orange was enjoying himself
@alaslipknot
@alaslipknot 10 жыл бұрын
one of the funniest and educative game talk i even seen
@MrZzm88
@MrZzm88 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a curated list for this kind of game-dev talk videos?
@johanrg70
@johanrg70 9 жыл бұрын
Great talk, fun to watch. But don't forget to actually make a fun game before adding THE JUICE.
@LucyPero
@LucyPero 7 жыл бұрын
^ SO IMPORTANT
@funkychickenwing620
@funkychickenwing620 7 жыл бұрын
Breakout isn't fun without the juice. I'd say a lot games aren't fun with out juice. Unless it has something to do with movement (like a platformer) Think about it, a turn based game with two squares and a basic font for HP. When the squares attack each other, they just deduct the HP. Not very fun. Now think about that with the squares being animated characters with swords and armor. A stylish font over their heads for hp. When they attack each other there's blood, some screenshake, sprite flash.
@SufferDYT
@SufferDYT 6 жыл бұрын
But boring is universal.
@Zodiacman16
@Zodiacman16 5 жыл бұрын
@@SufferDYT There are lots of people who think grinding in MMOs is super boring, but other people think it's relaxing and fun. Different strokes for different folks.
@ScbSnck
@ScbSnck 5 жыл бұрын
wdy mean. Brakeout is FUN, it's classic. And its so simple, it is easy to teach on.
@activatepornforme
@activatepornforme 8 жыл бұрын
I really like those guys shorts., I can honestly understand why the camera man focussed on his legs rather than that presentation.
@Autoshotjosh
@Autoshotjosh 7 жыл бұрын
He must have liked his shorts too.
@hellschatt
@hellschatt 7 жыл бұрын
I like shorts! They're comfy and easy to wear.
@quixoticduck
@quixoticduck 7 жыл бұрын
hellschatt Hey! You're not wearing shorts!
@risingdevelopment6635
@risingdevelopment6635 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool how much simple things improve the sense of personality and art in a game, it's awesome!
@solarpm159
@solarpm159 8 жыл бұрын
I am a DeVry University student studying Game & Simulation Programming, currently enrolled in GSP381: Graphics Programming I. This tutorial was recommended in our online class announcement. At first glance I was put off by having to sit through a 15 minute tutorial of something not of my choosing. I sat through it and never once got bored. Found it very informative and have got to give thanks and praise for uploading this. I cannot wait to play your game!
@AbyssTheory
@AbyssTheory 8 жыл бұрын
+solarpm DeVry University. . .good luck getting a job, broski.
@kaldo_kaldo
@kaldo_kaldo 8 жыл бұрын
The education will be valuable regardless. Degrees really only get you into AAA studios at the low level, doing crap work anyway. If you wanna open your own studio or work indie, then that will be more than enough.
@sagitswag1785
@sagitswag1785 4 жыл бұрын
@@AbyssTheory Way to be elitist. Education only gets you in the door. Once he works some in the industry as a jr dev he will be on the same page as someone who graduated with a 4.0 from standford. Employees dont look at your university if you have work experience
@AbyssTheory
@AbyssTheory 4 жыл бұрын
​@@sagitswag1785Yes, obviously work experience trumps education. However, DeVry is a for-profit university that has been consistently investigated for consistently misleading their students about their job placement rates while simultaneously charging roughly double per credit hour compared to public universities. I'm far from an education elitist. There are plenty of good alternatives to traditional schooling (and predatory businesses like DeVry) such as MOOCs in combination with strong online portfolios.
@Dnobagav49
@Dnobagav49 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!! I learned more about indie game development in fifteen minutes than from most of those game dev vlogs that last for hours!!! So glad you guys uploaded this =)
@ComfieDev
@ComfieDev 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this talk a long time ago, tbh it changed my life.
@noicenoise8718
@noicenoise8718 2 жыл бұрын
Learning gamedev this 2021, tweening now is the thing and it's the one of the easiest way to improve game feel for beginners less artistic like me. This is video is timeless. Very awesome
@WebDesignSEOChannel
@WebDesignSEOChannel 9 жыл бұрын
i still find myself watching this over and over. all the rules still apply 110% great job guys!
@jakubsmolewski7027
@jakubsmolewski7027 7 жыл бұрын
What a stunning presentation! Great work guys!
@BrodyBaddis
@BrodyBaddis Жыл бұрын
Super talk. Thank you for the archives. Game Design professors writing for publications are ok, but making examples like this - for the visually geared developers - is priceless. Going to go read and watch their other references
@cardsofsurvivaltheisland5094
@cardsofsurvivaltheisland5094 2 жыл бұрын
Wow... This video is absolutely pure gold. Thank yo so much
@MaisieSqueak
@MaisieSqueak 12 жыл бұрын
Great presentation guys. Some great initial inspiration for my degree this year. Truly cannot wait to start from the ground up in the industry and contribute something great.
@lolaldanee2743
@lolaldanee2743 Жыл бұрын
one of the best talks on game development ever held
@wanghaifeng7998
@wanghaifeng7998 4 жыл бұрын
So much useful information in such a short amount of time. Thank you for this.
@damionmurray8244
@damionmurray8244 10 жыл бұрын
I wish they gave props to Robert Penner. He was one of the first(if not the first) to break down tweening into a series of easing equations. Most tweening engines out there are based on his work.
@grapefrukt
@grapefrukt 10 жыл бұрын
He's first in our list of references on Github! Sadly, there wasn't time to mention it in the talk.
@castleblack6941
@castleblack6941 8 жыл бұрын
An handful of tits is better than bigger.
@DoubleBob
@DoubleBob 6 жыл бұрын
I wish they gave props to whoever did computer graphics and invented the laptop and the one who invented beamers and particle effects and the one who designed break out and the one, who brought us the mouse and the one who made their pants... Isn't giving props far more important than delivering information?
@musicrocks0138
@musicrocks0138 10 ай бұрын
Wow, that was amazing. The best part is that it is applicable to all types of games, and not just to a certain genre.
@d-landjs
@d-landjs 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing effect, sounds, etc!! It´s was amazing !
@himatako
@himatako 12 жыл бұрын
Very good talk and really great and clear example of how juicing a game can make a dull game much more interesting without making any modification to the game mechanic.
@Chr0n3
@Chr0n3 3 жыл бұрын
Keep sharing this video to my artists in 2021 Great job!
@PeopleThatPlayGames
@PeopleThatPlayGames 12 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome presentation! Never thought before that such simple things could matter so much!!
@JamesMcManusOnline
@JamesMcManusOnline 10 жыл бұрын
That's nice that your computer can run Crysis. Can it run JUICY BREAKOUT?? :D
@idle.observer
@idle.observer 11 ай бұрын
Just a wonderful content for that short amount of time!
@Jimmarxd
@Jimmarxd 8 жыл бұрын
The eyes thingie made me clap, all alone .. in my room .. yeah ..
@boredspaghettisquid6050
@boredspaghettisquid6050 7 жыл бұрын
YEEEE-
@GameRocker
@GameRocker 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha I did that too man
@shahabdullah4265
@shahabdullah4265 4 жыл бұрын
Same here :D
@HoppingFun
@HoppingFun 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting-great talk. I want to add eyes to everything now.
@rosse119
@rosse119 8 жыл бұрын
That talk was awesome!!!
@bitmeister
@bitmeister 9 жыл бұрын
So much awesomeness in one video!
@Roxfox
@Roxfox 10 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what made DX-Ball work so well way back in '96. All it really had was flair, but that flair was done so well it became an instant freeware hit. Another recent example of Breakout taken to an extreme, and done so very juicily, is Shatter... which I'm gonna have to go reinstall right now. Good talk, guys!
@thomsip1990
@thomsip1990 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome presentation! thanks a lot for this guys.
@asboll
@asboll 9 жыл бұрын
PEGGLE is the perfect example of this
@carlomontoya
@carlomontoya 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of 'a picture is worth a thousand words.' Wonderful demo of 'game juice.'
@JustDaZack
@JustDaZack 10 ай бұрын
This is so important. Great talk!
@c.k.worrell9671
@c.k.worrell9671 10 жыл бұрын
Really great talk. Good use of flash as a teaching platform also. Bravo!!!
@AlSweigartDotCom
@AlSweigartDotCom 5 ай бұрын
I still recommend this talk to programmers getting into coding and game dev.
@Luis-Torres
@Luis-Torres 6 жыл бұрын
This was awesome to watch!
@smuphix
@smuphix 9 жыл бұрын
I just love this talk! :) Once a while I watch it and enjoy myself.
@Lithethos
@Lithethos 12 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough, "it lacks juice (or meat)" is used informally in different cultures denoting similar things. Being a game artist myself, I knew of the "juice", which I think saying "make a game livelier" would be a more easy to understand term, but "juice" or "meat" are, of course, somehow appropriate and understandable :) This is a wonderful, delightful, entertaining, inspirational, and a very useful talk! I did not know how quick it would be to program such stuff.
@Carlmdb
@Carlmdb 12 жыл бұрын
love it! Best talk I've seen in along time most are really dull and monotone.
@juliodiaz7778
@juliodiaz7778 Жыл бұрын
THIS WAS AWSOME AF
@PhilippeMesnildrey
@PhilippeMesnildrey 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome 15 minutes spent watching this, thanks guys! Thumbs up
@AnshMehraa
@AnshMehraa 3 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant talk
@simoprdev3517
@simoprdev3517 7 жыл бұрын
Awsome ! I was looking for this kind of features to add
@AlexVoxel
@AlexVoxel 7 ай бұрын
This was a great presentation
@SizzlerWA
@SizzlerWA 10 жыл бұрын
Superb presentation! Congrats.
@menglish83
@menglish83 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation!
@AFChannelX
@AFChannelX 3 жыл бұрын
Marvelous explanation! 10/10 :) .
@DoisKoh
@DoisKoh 9 жыл бұрын
"Juicing" is great but evidently this *isn't* what is missing from the industry.
@artjom5617
@artjom5617 4 жыл бұрын
true
@ahmedsiddique9782
@ahmedsiddique9782 3 жыл бұрын
true its missing its roots
@RonanMcCabe
@RonanMcCabe 4 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of this can be applied to apps too. Great stuff.
@Lvl9chao
@Lvl9chao 8 жыл бұрын
This helps a bunch! I'm gonna apply this to my next project :D
@compscistudio
@compscistudio 9 жыл бұрын
So much Juice!
@kombosabinho
@kombosabinho 4 жыл бұрын
How did I miss this video
@MrZzm88
@MrZzm88 2 жыл бұрын
This is epic...can't believe it's 9 years ago. Is there a curated list for this kind of game-dev talk videos?
@kuwala
@kuwala 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you this is awesome and made my day. :)!!
@influencer20XX
@influencer20XX 4 жыл бұрын
this is amazing
@jimanz1
@jimanz1 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@JGoLabs
@JGoLabs 12 жыл бұрын
Very cool - thanks for sharing!
@reopucino
@reopucino 12 жыл бұрын
what a nice video... great work, and thank's for the lesson :)
@thomasmolby
@thomasmolby 12 жыл бұрын
What a triumph of an ending!
@am_n_n
@am_n_n 11 жыл бұрын
It says in the video, they make the yScale and xScale of the paddle inversely and directly proportional (respectively) to the absolute difference between the paddle's x position and the mouse's x position.
@Michael_H_Nielsen
@Michael_H_Nielsen 9 жыл бұрын
So brilliant :)
@nodros1
@nodros1 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I wish I watched this 8 years ago.
@JohnhaighS
@JohnhaighS Жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE ONE I:VEEEEEEN LOOKING FOR
@puckoster
@puckoster 10 жыл бұрын
amazing video! :D
@NickShvelidze
@NickShvelidze 12 жыл бұрын
The eyes thing is wonderful
@ComfieDev
@ComfieDev 3 жыл бұрын
Legendary
@matthewwillox7338
@matthewwillox7338 10 ай бұрын
2023 and I still reference this talk
@riotxxx
@riotxxx 5 жыл бұрын
This is fucking rad. Who needs a game. Just make juice.
@rickloyd8208
@rickloyd8208 4 жыл бұрын
Who came here by Will's recommendation (Masterclass)? Awesome demo and very motivational!
@SkelleRok
@SkelleRok 4 жыл бұрын
Color Tweening (in-betweens) Squash and stretch Sounds and music Particles (smoke, shatter, trails, etc.) Screen shake
@greencubegames
@greencubegames 3 жыл бұрын
legendary video for gamedevs
@MichelledeHaan-Pitman
@MichelledeHaan-Pitman 11 жыл бұрын
great stuff. Thanks
@AzuKDDK
@AzuKDDK 12 жыл бұрын
I love the mouth effect :) it makes the game so much more appealing :)
@peterschreuderr
@peterschreuderr 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@ATCraiger
@ATCraiger 8 жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool stuff.
@sfrdmn
@sfrdmn 10 жыл бұрын
really nice, thanks :)
@demosthenes7847
@demosthenes7847 7 жыл бұрын
Super interesting!
@FerdinandJosephFernandez
@FerdinandJosephFernandez 12 жыл бұрын
I can see their point, but I believe there's a point where its too much already. In Bayonetta, one of my problems were, at intense fights, for brief but still important moments, I couldn't tell anymore where enemies' attacks are coming from, because the particle effects cover the screen too much. Some people don't find that a problem though.
@joaobigfoot
@joaobigfoot 10 жыл бұрын
FUCKIN EPIC! best game talk I've ever seen.
@MAFiA303
@MAFiA303 6 жыл бұрын
What a fun informative talk. Laughed my ass in the train
@vgvisionary
@vgvisionary 12 жыл бұрын
You guys are the gods of Juiciness
@Quicksilvir
@Quicksilvir 5 жыл бұрын
Been playing Yakuza 0, the combat system in that game is all about the juice. When you use a heat attack, the visual and audio effects go up to 11.
@TheEddiePleasant
@TheEddiePleasant 12 жыл бұрын
We miss you Coe
@paddykelly6338
@paddykelly6338 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Obvious but true.
@encryptonz
@encryptonz 12 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed. I would definitely take out the screen flashing (hurts my head), but otherwise, really cool stuff.
@JKH-BDK
@JKH-BDK 11 жыл бұрын
Wow... subtle effects are great, but combining them is much better, holy shit i want to pet that peddle.
@unlightenment
@unlightenment 2 жыл бұрын
wow, so cool!
@smiechu47
@smiechu47 10 жыл бұрын
That's how Call of Duty games are made
@xXDJLEE02Xx
@xXDJLEE02Xx 10 жыл бұрын
your picture annoys me ;( must scroll away
@kannanblangla610
@kannanblangla610 9 жыл бұрын
xXDJLEE02Xx
@DoisKoh
@DoisKoh 9 жыл бұрын
This is how Shatter was made.
@skypenguingames_6396
@skypenguingames_6396 7 жыл бұрын
That's how JUICY BREAKOUT was made
@44r0n-9
@44r0n-9 Жыл бұрын
Gonna juice up all my future games
@gonzalorosario1278
@gonzalorosario1278 5 жыл бұрын
they rock!!!
@JuneTreeDraws
@JuneTreeDraws Жыл бұрын
I screamed with joy when they made the eyes bigger
@heavylurker
@heavylurker 11 жыл бұрын
very nice video. wish i watch this much earlier!
@ConstructDude
@ConstructDude 11 жыл бұрын
thanks
@renx99
@renx99 10 жыл бұрын
F'ing brilliant
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