June 22nd Janthir Spear Preview Broadcast - Guild Wars 2 News

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3:49 Ranger
15:44 Necromancer
31:05 Guardian
39:10 Thief
54:30 Warrior
59:48 Engineer
1:07:00 Revenant
1:12:45 Mesmer
1:22:45 Elementalist
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[@ossianb5089]

the ele visibility issue seems like an easy fix - you can just keep the cool looking outlines and graphics and remove the solid colour overlay - so it looks similar to guard symbols

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

Didn't they say only eles can see their etches and everyone else just sees the aoe ring?

[@traveling.down.the.road56]

@@whyisthisathingnow... Yes, that’s exactly what they said during the stream.

[@eligore6908]

I'm not sure why it needs to be so big though. It's not a team buff

[@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777]

I just find it funny how the etching outlines glow anyway, so there's really ZERO REASON to have the opaque splat under them. 😂

[@SpielmannsHerz]

2h reaction to a 1h40min video with increased speed and skipping parts, you love to see it :D

[@truecross4090]

I was watching it at 2x when he mentions this and I was like "holy crap I'm not the only one." Which means I'm essentially watching the steam portion of the video at 2.25, speed. Crazy how slow these guys must be really talking. Lol.

[@dieselsandwich42]

Ele to Deimos: "look at me, I'm the oil now."

[@Jmvars]

At least it doesn't mess with other players. Will be interesting to see if it manages to hide boss AoE's.

[@korbendallas3247]

Can you also suggest that they add an option to the game to show all weapons at all times? So when you play with weapon one, the second weapon is also shown on the character.

[@MuklukYoutube]

I would love that

[@Ghin_Antonic]

There are honestly two kinds of solutions to fix this. 1) Make all "ground circles" for things to avoid instead have a bit of height and be translucent / transparent. Avoid the glowing cone. Kinda works but at the same time having a bunch of red danger circles without knowing which one is more dangerous is bad. 2) Stop making skills with solid colour bottoms. The biggest issue with that giant red circle is the pitch ass black taint stain. Remove that and just give transparent see-through rune circle and should be MOSTLY fine. Solid colour outer ring, coloured runes and circles that can be faintly enjoyed with some transparency. 3) All player giant circles make you immune to ALL danger zones until they are gone, spam circles for protection.

[@seafighter4]

They should just move all danger circles to their own rendering layer, rendering over all other skill effects.

[@FlowerBot]

@@seafighter4 and let us turn off, greatly reduce other stuff. I especially hate seeing fx for buffs and shields that aren't able to affect me.

[@Nilruin]

Herald mains: first time with graphics issues on your floor effects?

[@Nilruin]

Warrior's showcase being a third of the length of every other class in this showcase tells you all you need to know about how the developers feel about Warrior.

[@nebulastar9050]

So will the old legendary spear make the ele's twister skill into a sharknado?

[@MuklukYoutube]

I support this

[@MunkeeBreath]

I like the warrior spear balance of distance because it decentivizes enemies from running at us (our damage is bigger the closer they are) though we still use it primarily at range. It’s a cool balance but mostly for pvp sake. Pve yes the running back into the fight for stationary bosses is kinda strange and counterintuitive.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

The only way for this to be good in pvp or wvw is IF the numbers are ridiculusly high. No condi, no boons.. nothing. it will probably fall to the list of power weapons that never see play in warrior's arsenal.

[@manmataya]

Piano ele?? Fergie might have said that's 2000 and late, we have evolved to church organ levels of eleing

[@manmataya]

The saddest thing is that after playing Vivaldi AND Bethoven against an elite mob, we still do less damage than other classes with 3 buttons... 🥲

[@littlekong7685]

@@manmataya Need to get those foot pedals going too! Where is the organ pump assistant I NEED MORE POWER so i can match the pre-buffed reaper!

[@ozirus3344]

Man they could’ve saved themselves some work if the Etching skill was shared across all 4 elements. Then depending on what mix of element skills you use in it the final explosion had different effects.

[@loadedexcrement]

"They could have saved some work by doing more work". Certainly it's more work designing different skills based on the elements used, no?

[@leftrom9738]

This is Fashion Wars, who needs to see the ground (red circles, Deimos oil) with these fabulous ele symbols/etchings?

[@snakeman830]

The Extripation debuff's effectiveness will depend entirely on if it counts multiple stacks of Might and Stability as one boon to negate or multiple. If "Stand Your Ground" still applies 2 stacks of stability to everyone hit by one Necro's Extripate, then it's basically worthless.

[@traveling.down.the.road56]

I like the two classes that automatically switch from ranged attacks to melee attacks depending upon how close to the target they are.

[@_shadow_8]

28:35 Spears are a bit adjacent, as in Greek mythos Hade's weapon of choice has been depected as a bident and spear depending on the intepretation or story. What would you have liked to see in terms of necro getting necro weapons? :o

[@josechianetta]

Next we have warrior, muk instantly: ok im gonna skip a few minutes 😂 54:38

[@MunkeeBreath]

😂😂😂😂 @1:28:50 reminds me of Han Solo in the Force Awakens… “that’s not how the force works!”😂😂😂😂

[@j0rtsy]

The necromancer skill 2 should have the icon change based on your number of soul shards stacked, if that’s the skill that consumes them. Edit: I’m further in the video now and I think this should apply to any of the unique buffs, like clarity or luminance. If they’re not wanting to change the class mechanic UI elements, they should have the skill icons change based on the application of the buff.

[@elitemantis]

But... mantises do not sting. They don't have stinger. Why is the skill called 'mantis sting'

[@kiratastic7048]

I think what they should do for ele is have a specific option to turn off the effects on their side if they’re gonna be in a strike/raid where they need to watch for aoes

[@Koakoa45]

cracks me up on the Elementalist you did not know basic meteorological terms. I needed that good laugh at Haboob.

[@insertname6143]

@19:20 they could change it to triple stack and have, starting from the bottom utility, buff, debuff. utility on the bottom as they tend to last the longest ie food/oils/banners/consumables/jadbot/achievement/effects.

[@theNightDice]

I wonder if there will be a bug on necro spear 5 that prevents a boss from going invulnerable

[@lukebajada7751]

Extirpation could easily be a new condition. imo it should be available to more classes as the boon countermeasure as supposts farts boons. Being a condition, there is that counterplay for it to be cleansed.

[@Czasoniks]

Muk saying "Domain Expansion! OIL EVERYWHERE!" Should be new sound alert for patrons 😂

[@mayam.3240]

I so much appreciate the new icons. Last beta I basically didnt feel like playing much because all the same icons for every class made it very hard to actually get a feel for the very diffrent weapons.

[@jonathaneldridge6611]

Yeah but when are we gonna get playable Kodan and Tengu?

[@JRSoper]

How was there no reaction at 53:05 when the thief used 2 hands to perform their stealth attack? 😆

[@captaincrapface7337]

They came up with completly new mechanics, made several structurally sound, deep and interesting toolkits, and presented much higher standard than for any set of expantion weapons, fron HoT to SotO. On the other hand they wouldn't even care to fix huge, glaring, ugly visual bug wit warriors spear F1 so it at least looks like they didn't glue it together it in 5 minutes before deadline. I am convinced, my dissapointment is justyfied.

[@Aj-YT-5-0]

Hey muk the segments are not there

[@MuklukYoutube]

Found the problem and fixed it, thanks.

[@evelynn2790]

As im start watching this pleaseeeeeeeeeee do the servise of getting the word out for them not letting us wait etrnity once the new expac is out Y__________Y i dont have power to wait half year 9 month how long was it U_U ty!._.

[@NotSoCentech]

@muk was that a legendary aquatic rebreather at 52:09 when he has the hero panel open to the equipment screen before switching out the sword

[@MuklukYoutube]

Looked blue on my end

[@eridanuskelpi3908]

I only have the minimap on top, for the inflated buff bar. It's the only way to keep track especially with festival boosters 😣

[@Nora-transspire]

Using the underwater animations would be amazing on april fools

[@graphicsblacksmith]

elementist looks fun to play now and glad to see the guardian cone attack that was on staff is back.

[@qwerty222999]

I think the Warrior's spear design could use some refinement. Instead of being ranged and getting worse as you move further away, I think the design should change to "Close hits the hardest, but AoE and effects are smaller" They can give warrior's spear melee hits when close, but it only hits one target, however being in melee yields max damage. When you move away, the damage output is lower, but the attacks become ranged and apply AoE effects. I think this design could make it better to use, as you would want to keep your distance to groups of enemies for applying maxmimum effects in an AoE, but when you are dealing with one big boss enemy, you want to close your gap so you can hit for max damage. Those are my thoughts.

[@larewt]

Thief spear is amazing. I think Deadeye will be the obvious choice due to being able to benefit more often from the stealth attack. Since the only bonus to doing a stealth attack after a finisher is extra initiative and Deadeye already gets a ton of initiative when capping their malice this could mean that you could do your spear 4 buff then use a utility to steath for the stealth move. This way you don't ever skip a stealth attack rotation as you would probably have to for the other specs due to needing the initiative bonus. This feel especially true when you consider that spear 4 must be used after a finisher to get the bonus, and also counts as a lead skill meaning you couldnt use spear 4, utility stealth, and then stealth attack while retaining the initiative bonus. At least that's my initial thought process. Sounds like it should still function for all specs but Deadeye should be the highest dps possible based on current design. That's probably not a problem though since it means Deadeye has the option to put in more effort they should probably be rewarded with more damage.

[@punkmaster1864]

I can still see the lotus blossom, death blossom, etc flipping in my head due to the disgusting number of hours spent with assassin in GW1. Excited that the mechanic is back

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

Maybe they could change it that only deadeye doesn't get the bonus initiative from the stealth attack?

[@youreyestell4977]

Already watched all of this live on stream; but I came here to experience the discovery of the ✨Haboob✨ again 🤣

[@chester1882]

If Anet is going to bake mechanics into the weapons going forward, then the game would highly benefit from the buff bar organisation/rework OR give weapon associated buffs priority to be first on the left.

[@methanbreather]

it is not just 'want to be wizard'. Ele is the squishest class with the most complex rotations - and the worst outcome - and then forced into close combat. Anet's choices in the past have been idiotic to put it mildly. So yeah, there were many good reasons to want to have a ranged weapon. Especially since ANET gutted stuff a decade ago for no good reason at all. I wish ANET would consider 'difficulty to play' in their dmg considerations. Necro, thief and especially mechanist have no right to do the dmg numbers they pull of.

[@captaincrapface7337]

Im not an elie main, but I agree. I'm not an elie main specifically because i agree.

[@shamwaw336]

Dont many ele mains i see seem happy about it but i guess that's cause they can be considered sweat lords who love piano play

[@punkmaster1864]

Ele, now with more down state options.

[@ComicWriter232]

I agree on Necro and Mechanist, but when I play my thief the little bit I do, she is very squishy?

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

Meanwhile virtuoso here in the corner dodging nerfs and catching buffs 😅

[@Tryplex66]

btw u can keybind to drop target

[@NatsuDragneel792]

Fuck the oil, gimme the cool circle with the flashy lights. I’m already downed anyways lmao

[@Jmvars]

The Guardian skill 2 has a flip skill that cancels the charge! You know what desperately needs this? Ele off-hand dagger 4 (Ride the Lightning).

[@evasivemonkey670]

Heart broken there's no condi on the ranger spear. Thats 3 weapons in a row that have had no condi.

[@RobbinnDaHood]

Ranger spear very well could be relevant for prog on Cerus LCM as a potential QDPS or even pure DPS option

[@Dahkeus3]

Spell names on a new MMO: Tornado, Meteor Shower, Thunderclap. New spell names on an older MMO: Jökulhlaup, Derecho, Haboob

[@tandemawd]

All I will say is that with a range of 130 on the melee AA of spears, they must not be taking full advantage of the fact that they have A SPEAR and not a dagger.

[@sylvarixreaper]

finally an other melee for my reaper

[@TohnR]

I like the Aurelion Sol reference. Rip good ol' Aurelion kit

[@kunkudunk1133]

As an ele player/main, honestly I don’t think the circles will be what kills me. Most of the time what actually gets me downed is forced movement effects in a rotation since if your group is good you just follow them anyway (and if your group is bad then you’re already doomed so meh). Granted I could be wrong and some bosses have circles you have to run out but honestly the simplest solution is make all mechanics circles appear on top of skill effects instead of beneith since obviously I’ll know where I put my own circle so the boss damage circles covering it is fine.

[@fujieyes6]

My two favourite will be Warrior and Elementalist, but I will not use Ele skill 5 on boss that got lot of AOE damage.

[@victormontivero1998]

Fresh Air Spear Catalyst will be nice to play.

[@JosePazelli-nh5ce]

I am not a purist, but the engineer 4 and 5 are looking really magical. With hammer they were using magnetism and acting as a catalyst for the lightning, but this one seems strange. it is very beautiful tho

[@TheRetifox]

I am surprised how they pulled a lot of new animation and pretty VFX effects. Good job on that part for them. Super nitpick, kinda wish we could have more idle stances, or characters just holding a spear in two hands.

[@katanikoneko9036]

Watching the ele spear skills "ooh those look so cool makes me want to play ele again" they get to the etching, "in open world"

[@wildmustang33]

Interesting that at least up to thief they don't see to have any COMBO skills that interact with fields, and the like.

[@Kanzuko]

My favorite part was when Cal said "I'm Haboobing" and he oozed his haboob all over the enemies

[@EmnelGaming]

Thief spear is more complicated than all of their other weapons combined. Are we sure thief players can handle it?

[@ronioksanen3183]

depends if they played gw1 assasin or not. though do they need handle it?? they tool kit is bloated anyway that if they don't fat finger and make mistake they are still fine with all free stuff they have(in pvp be it wvw or struct) . after all thiefs is basically in same state as guardian was 5 year aka completely broken as fuck with profession players saying its not.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

@@ronioksanen3183 For pvp and WvW it doesn't matter cus there's no way anything new will replace broken shit like DD - Dagger/pistol bullshit for example.

[@LetoZeth]

We definitely need Raid/Strike graphics settings for visibility,

[@Relhio]

Man, the Elementalist etches look so damn good, but they really need to remove those effects from under them. Guardian Symbols don't have effects under them that scorch the ground.

[@missk1697]

Revenant spear skills need to be sped up, do mention that in the feedback.

[@DanielKitchka]

*Ele moves to earth rotation* everyone: *turns into a 5 year old kid*

[@ElderNewt]

I think a way to protect WvW aginast Spear Necromancers is for the enemy to be capped at stacks. So they can only get x amount. instead of having 15 necros hit you with 45 stacks xD

[@snakeman830]

Given it's a small radius, maybe you shouldn't walk into 15 necros in a single location without a zerg? Even without spear, that just sounds like you're asking to die.

[@JinxSwe]

Lookes like I'm moving away from my dual pistol deadeye. Also might PvP my Necro ^^

[@niwaar]

My instant opinion of the guardian, the symbol should be on the same button as other weapons not 5, i see why they made it 5 because of the CC, but the symbol should still be on the 3 like other weapons.

[@conclusory]

That has been a gripe of mine as well. But, to be clear, the symbols on 2-handed weapons are not all on the 3rd skill. Staff: 3rd Great sword: 4th Long bow: 4th Hammer: 1st (3rd hit in the auto-attack chain)

[@LetoZeth]

Ranger spear looks like it's gonna be really bad outside of PvP. Don't think it would do well in WvW zergs either. Necromancer maybe PvE burst potential, but definitely made for WvW.

[@windowpane]

Don't craft any spears yet. Stand around berserkers throwing away all their spears and pick them up. Win. I learnt that from Romance of the 3 Kindoms, where Zhuge Liang "borrowed" arrows from the enemy.

[@chavian0]

Man, there's a greater haBOOB and a lesser haBOOB... they really thought of everyone with this expac. Talk about covering every range of tastes. 😁

[@Insig385]

as an ele main : I'm willing to die for this fabulousness *throws hair* fr tho the etching are gorgeous, but hopefully they fix it so oil shows on top 😂

[@ComicWriter232]

how is lifesteal and boon fuckage not necromancy related? Not everything necromancy is just raising the dead. I understand ppl saying harbinger wasn't. Harbinger, though I haven't really played it, seemed more like Witch doctor kind of shit. But lifesteal, boon suppress, debuff shit seems very necro to me.

[@MuklukYoutube]

Eh, I was nitpicking for laughs. I've always viewed necromancy as raising the dead, be it skeletons, spirits, etc. And ever since the minions that launched with the game a decade ago, they've not really touched on that. Except maybe scourge shades. Scourge minus the shades is sand powers Reaper is "I'm melee now" But with shadow juice Harbinger is vodka and a gun If it were me I'd love it if spear 5 was a long cd that summoned temp minions that did respectable damage for a time or something.

[@ComicWriter232]

@@MuklukKZbin Fair enough. I agree with Harbinger. But maybe I am of a different generation. I always thought of necromancer abilities as being an umbrella of many things including life and death, and souls and those domains.

[@kevlap017]

I'm upset about necromancer. WHY IS IT POWER. we have so much power weapons, but no support! I would have even preferred a condi weapon. So disappointed we got the power pvp/wvw weapon basically. I hate it

[@pkmnswampmaster]

Greetings Mr. Mukluk Douglas something something squire the 4th here! I would like to rebut your claim that Necromancer keep getting weapons that are not Necro weapons, I disagree with this because every weapon is a Necro weapon as they all help you make the target a potential candidate to be your next minion. Thank you for your attention.

[@loadscreen1011]

Finally my melee spectre thief fantasy came true

[@Soinetwa]

Ranger spear seems amazing for open world pve got ranged and mellee.. power usually better in open world anyway movement and easy stealth

[@bilaliqbal4012]

true but i think it'll shine in PvP or WvW roaming.. The stealth application & then it's unique stealth mechanics in that 2-5 is a flip-over.. Is really dope.

[@Nooctae]

Ranger is overwhelmed with great weapons these days I feel like. When in open world, Axes, Maces, Hammer, Sword, they're all so good, it's hard to even make a choice.

[@skykingz9068]

Dope to see them keeping the tradition of elementalists dying a lot.

[@joanwu1204]

@16:30 i think it was helseth

[@Rsjabber_]

guardians got their lootstick back

[@utmastuh]

Hunter: Meh, Necro: Busted! (rip boons). Guardian: maybe ok for support. Longhorn: don't get the burger at a steakhouse (duh). Thief: invis, unlimited blocks, they're going to love it. Warrior: zerker's delight. Engi: condi blender. Mesmer: another power dps build but is it as good? Rev: who cares they suck to play. Ele: finally another max range weapon! Too bad it's screen/ground cancer but with more habooba.

[@MuklukYoutube]

It was a steak burger and they are usually so good but they messed it up so bad 😢

[@melinnamba]

Grand piano ele playstyle? Na, they have graduated to church organs.

[@TheAllMattural]

I played black mage in ffxiv, your going to have to pry me out of my ele spear circle

[@tarzanvader8706]

As an ele main, I am willing to sacrifice my life and ability to see the ground to have a good ranged weapon.

[@oberynshadowmoon4717]

I'm kinda dissapointed in ranger animations and skill interactivity compared to the other classes, it feels kind of dry and not as fun.... :/

[@kobitz9001]

thief gets to spam 2 more, gotcha. no complaints here.

[@critical-thinker666]

dunno it feels kinda dumb to add random inner mechanics to some weapons, still waiting for actual update to old weapons instead of throwing 3 new ones.

[@eman7254]

oh fellow reapers we eating good in pvp/wvw

[@ronioksanen3183]

as Necromain from gw1 to this day yeah I find it funny again weapon with nothing to do with actual profession and more power weapons for profession which is face of condi builds oh yeah such fun. I quess I hoped too much anet do something usefull with new weapons like it was with swords. Another balance of anet I don't understand is why all necro ranges are 900 max expect utility staff while some random reason thief is such godly weapon expert that some reason they axe is 1200 (feels 1500 or more with how they work) when I would expect ranger be god of those weapons, but no somehow thief is better at handling axes as thrown weapon than ranger or other profession which use magic with those. As allways Anet does not make any sense and balance is somekind mythical begin in game or using actual common sense.

[@ronioksanen3183]

Little rant anyway freaking thief why they even have multiple 1200 range weapons when they have +17sec of evade aviable for them as balanced as that is top of with all 1200 range teleports and stealth. Its quite literally profession which can't lose any other way than user is bad and make mistake.

[@upper-moon-alpha]

guardian will back to meta as healer. power mirage will replace healing chrono

[@bilaliqbal4012]

Pretty much most of the spears are very well designed IMO apart from Warrior. Warrior spear's may actually be powerful in terms of DPS but the design of it? Boring IMO. It needs like.. 1 more mechanic.

[@Ithirahad]

Yokel Hop confirmed.

[@mrborderbunny]

as usual Rev using the weapon for its not intended purpose cause to me it seems they are using it to cast like a staff or wand haha.

[@1808joe]

i fear the ele nerf because of this weapon

[@Pancake243x]

Making a legendary spear just so I can haboob

[@artinotsoparty]

As a rev i was hoping for a ranged support weapon since the last addition is dogsh*t the way it is right no.

[@Stterling21]

Damn, i had hopes on warrior spear but is awful.

[@bazs7722]

The magic circle bs on the elementalist sums up perfectly what Arenanet devolved into: all style, no thought behind it. Like anyone thinks about it for 1 minute will realize that if the elementalist can't turn that shit off, they going to be the number 1 player who gonna lay down on the ground when any mechanic happens that involves not stepping into red, especially with the dog poop defenses and HP it has.

[@FlowerBot]

teaching GW2 players new weather terms, to be ready for global warming, nicely done.

[@zengara11]

I hate the idea of an elementalist being locked down in a circle, it is lazy.....But I am a wvw player, PvE is different, I get that.

[@mezi5860]

More land sharks

[@BackwardsCombatable]

I'm hearing way too much wvw to get excited about spears.... seems they're designing all of them for that mode specifically which is stupid.

[@GwBrasil]

Guardian only heal on game then they get lance and put heal, for what? Its like drop a glass of water on a pool, its literaly usless :1 Why guardian shoud use lance? If mace heal more, hammer heal morre too and get more mobs / area, more cc, more block, more simbol, this make zero sense And is not even ranger LOL

[@CadeAid1]

I think the Guardian spear skills are hideous. Why the vomit yellow color?! This is going to stick out like a sore thumb since they're not blue like the rest of the abilities... and what's with the holy sunlight aesthetic? It's so obvious that they're just turning guardian into a WoW Paladin with this aesthetic because they're out of touch with what the profession is thematically.