Jupiter Torn Apart by the Sun | SpaceSim | Realtime render

Jupiter is placed in a close orbit to the Sun and is torn apart by tidal forces, forming a disk of debris

[@starpawsy]

And that is exactly how an accretion disk forms around a black hole.

[@physics_hacker]

Sometimes yea, tidal disruption'll do it.

[@nikkisundori]

you've seen it irl

[@EpicMouser]

Yeah but with a star

[@maxenemmettastrande3428]

Its creates the rings of gas and dust around the sun and in next days the sun will began to feed the gas and dust from the jupiter until they gone. Just like black hole torn apart a star and form an accretion disk around it and began feeding it

[@physics_hacker]

Yep! Some of the outer reaches of the debris ring may even be able to clump together again eventually, but most of it is inside the roche limit, so will either fall into the sun or be kicked out of the roche limit and maybe start to clump.

[@pinngg6907]

Or just got fling out and create a ring like saturn

[@VCOTABFONDD]

The Jovian Belts: 😃 The Jovian Belt: 💀

[@kerbal_lord]

0:02 : noodle

[@physics_hacker]

jupy noodle

[@PREN_0909]

Astroids: Hahah Earth: theres nothing we can do

[@elszrvee]

Humans: Let's blow them up

[@William_5956]

Just another skibidi toilet toddler, Delete the comment.

[@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P]

Sun there saying, ".... Hah!!! Now I Got a Ring!!!"

[@ryanspaceYT]

Very Nice!

[@physics_hacker]

Thanks! Glad you like

[@ArthurMorgan_RDRII]

Woah beautiful, its like it has rings!

[@physics_hacker]

Yeah! Stuff torn apart by tidal forces is one way of producing rings, so this would be related

[@ArthurMorgan_RDRII]

Yeah, from what people say saturn destroyed one if its moons to get a ring.

[@mrbub2014]

Because it does

[@sirakornsaengchan864]

That looks beautiful. How do you make these simulations?

[@physics_hacker]

@makedondimitrovski2136 is correct, I make them with a software called SpaceSim, a "cousin" of the N-Body simulation software OpenSPH that's a bit more user friendly.

[@owlredshift]

​@@makedondimitrovski2136I read this as spaceism and was starting to wonder what kind of electric universe flat earth moon landing denier splinter group you were with

[@ThatIsALakeSir]

@@owlredshift i also simulate things with *spaceism*

[@cristianorafael4301]

He threw Jupiter at the sun and recorded it.

[@user-tq3og1ig1d]

Looks like a Galaxy

[@perfectionbox]

I take it the coronal temperatures would be heating that gas disc into emitting x-rays

[@physics_hacker]

The corona, although very hot, isn't very dense so heating from that definitely would not be that extreme. X-rays take black hole accretion disk levels of heating to produce and that's just not here. Some of this material probably should be carried away by solar wind though. The particles are just too large to be able to model that, most likely.

[@Bloxian_Gamer]

Jupiter did gave the sun a ring XD

[@physics_hacker]

Indeed it did!

[@Bloxian_Gamer]

@@physics_hacker XD

[@bigjick]

@@Bloxian_Gamer xd xd xd

[@Bloxian_Gamer]

@@bigjick XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD

[@jd35711]

scale is a crazy thing

[@physics_hacker]

Yep! Especially scale of the universe

[@Mind_The_Science]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@lukaslukas6267]

Sun tore up by a black hole.

[@user-lj3hm7vk8f]

You can actually see the sun wobbling!

[@physics_hacker]

I suppose you can, yeah :-)

[@Zepheray]

What would that look like from earth. Please give a simulation from here

[@mikeskadi]

now i wish that the sun really had a ring system it would be so cool!

[@physics_hacker]

It does! Several actually, depending on how you look at it. The asteroid belt, the Kuiper belt, Jupiter's trojans, etc

[@mikeskadi]

@@physics_hacker cool but i meant like rings like Saturn or something like that

[@physics_hacker]

@@mikeskadi 🤷 There's really no difference.

[@mikeskadi]

@@physics_hacker bruh

[@physics_hacker]

@@mikeskadi what

[@samuelfajardo2701]

Mercury" I'm out man

[@juvelynserna948]

Idk why but that kinda looks like a protostar

[@physics_hacker]

I suppose it's superficially similar due to the disk

[@selvyaagustina7581]

Cool🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

[@physics_hacker]

Glad you like!

[@user-hd8yl6ju8o]

As I understand it, there is a small planetary core floating on the edge of the disk? Shouldn't it glow? It's hot.

[@physics_hacker]

Yes, it should glow if for no other reason than being so close to the sun, however this program doesn't simulate heat transfer or heating from stars in a situation like this. (In other contexts heating like that is possible but not for a setup like this)

[@niquannharris5209]

“Oh look the sun has rings!

[@physics_hacker]

Yeah haha

[@Floatingtoilet]

Oh look the solar eclipse has rings!!... shit

[@perfectionbox]

Sun: nom nom nom

[@physics_hacker]

yeah haha

[@rbl4641]

A tiny planet, in comparison, smears out into alot of ring/disc

[@physics_hacker]

Indeed! With so much room, the normally tightly packed material looks like a lot more when spread around the whole orbit and then some. I suppose it's just making it easier to appreciate how much material there is when you can see all of it rather than just the bit at the surface

[@Yourlocal_slayqueen]

Rings of saturn:❎ Rings of star:❎ Rings of sun:✅

[@physics_hacker]

perhaps

[@rodolfonathanieljrangeles4316]

Part of a planet that will tear anything apart: Roche Limit

[@physics_hacker]

Well, the roche limit depends on the density of the orbiting object, so by definition yes. But if the orbiting object is dense enough it'll run into the "surface" before being torn apart by tidal forces alone. The only object that can do that to truly anything is a black hole.

[@horsethi3f]

I didnt know you can have eccentric rings like that

[@physics_hacker]

They can form in the short term like in this video but they don't tend to last long term, they'd eventually even out. Especially, in this case, when accounting for relativistic precession, though this simulation doesn't include that at all. Eventually they'd even out to a more circular ring system given enough time.

[@maxenemmettastrande3428]

In outside suns roche limit the gas and dust matter outside will began to clump together and form a planet or a dwarf planet. In suns roche limit gas and dust will not began to clump into planet or dwarf planet because in roche limit where suns planets were not form why because in roche limit planets and dwarf planet came too close can rip apart

[@bryantalmontesuarez]

0:03:IF U SEE THE SUN WITH RINGS FIND A CITY FASTER

[@physics_hacker]

Huh?

[@villanuevaelm3]

Galaxy + star center = galaxy with star as center?

[@physics_hacker]

?

[@averagechadlegionary5824]

Poor Jupiter 😢

[@physics_hacker]

Don't worry! It's only a what-if, I didn't actually put Jupiter next to the sun! No celestial bodies were harmed in the making of this video. :-)

[@averagechadlegionary5824]

@@physics_hacker Phew.. 😅

[@G-250MediumDemon]

Its now a *STARHOLE*

[@physics_hacker]

a what now

[@Entity-Maker-IR-RLD]

If this happened, earth is doomed

[@physics_hacker]

would probably be long gone, this would require a lot of reshuffling of things since Jupiter would have to move all the way through the inner system.

[@immagical7036]

This is very similar to what would happen if the moon’s orbit decayed :3 (Moonfall you inaccurate bastard movie XD)

[@physics_hacker]

Yep! Tidal disruption

[@immagical7036]

@@physics_hacker indeed

[@psychiatry-is-eugenics]

why wouldn’t it go straight in ?

[@physics_hacker]

It's in orbit, why would it go straight in?

[@psychiatry-is-eugenics]

@@physics_hacker decaying orbit close enough to break up ; then possibly close enough to be pulled straight in . similar to comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 , July 1994

[@physics_hacker]

Not necessarily a decaying orbit, planets migrate over long periods, so it's also possible it could have migrated too close. Shoemaker-Levy 9 was not in orbit of Jupiter, so that's a very different situation. This planet is in orbit so for even some of the pieces to fall in at all they have to lose most of that orbital velocity, which when this close to the sun is quite a lot. Drag from the outer solar atmosphere can sap away that velocity over time but only on much longer timescales than this video runs for, and the program I used to run this simulation doesn't simulate things like that anyway. The only way, in this simulation, for the particles to fall in is for the particles to trade kinetic energy with their mutual gravity in just such a way that one gets put into an orbit that will take it into the sun. Such encounters are relatively uncommon and result in the other particle gaining kinetic energy and so ending up in a higher orbit, less likely to fall in at all. Its a very slow process, much too slow to showcase in a video.

[@oliverpreqi82]

Wow the Sun is have rings!?

[@physics_hacker]

In this simulation it gets something like rings. And I guess the Asteroid and Kuiper belts could be considered a form of stellar ring system. But to be clear, this simulation isn't necessarily modeling anything that has happened irl, more of a what-if.

[@PV-40TFS]

Wait... I see that Jupiter can made the Sun turn around little

[@physics_hacker]

Huh?

[@PV-40TFS]

I mean, the Sun are move when Jupiter orbit it

[@leandrapedro2449]

How do I find this game?

[@physics_hacker]

pavelsevecek.github.io/

[@FarzamShahrad]

What’s the game name

[@physics_hacker]

it's SpaceSim, not a game though

[@Darkness0887]

Ring star

[@physics_hacker]

Eh?

[@SwagClover]

this is not realtime, a simulation like this wuolod take atleast 6 minutes

[@physics_hacker]

It's realtime render, as opposed to the raymarcher renderer this software also has. I used the word render in the title to indicate this. The simulation itself is not realtime but the rendering is. I put it in the title to differentiate it from the raymarcher version that I also posted, so that people would know at a glance what the difference between this and the other similar video was. I am curious though, where did you get 6 minutes from?

[@SwagClover]

@@physics_hackermy bad I didn’t see this i don’t use KZbin that much, this is space sim right? I’ve used it many times and the simulations are made at like 5 fps and then compiled into a 60fps video when saved. So I guess in a way it’s real-time, if you consider 5 fps real-time.

[@physics_hacker]

@@SwagClover Yes, it's SpaceSim. The simulation and rendering run at different rates, what you're probably talking about with it running at 5fps is the simulation (the computation of the particle's effects on each other) rather than the rendering (the drawing of the image that you see), the simulation does run very slow, but you have two options for rendering, one is real-time and is extremely fast, and raymarcher, which is much slower. I ran this simulation, and then recorded it with both realtime and raymarcher renderers, this is the realtime render version.

[@SwagClover]

@@physics_hacker whatever your probably right i dont really care have a great day im gonna draw a dinosaur now

[@SpaceSheb]

needs fonk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[@physics_hacker]

?

[@SpaceSheb]

@@physics_hacker phonk especially cute depressed!!1

[@physics_hacker]

@@SpaceSheb I have been considering writing my own music for these videos, wouldn't be anything like phonk tho lol

[@SpaceSheb]

​@@physics_hacker off topic but why is every spacesim pfp so generic, just a small planet colliding into a big planet, that was my old profile, noozies profile, grands profile yours etc

[@physics_hacker]

@@SpaceSheb I can't speak for why others have theirs but I've had mine for roughly ten years now, originally used it on my Steam account and it propagated to other stuff I made, so it really has very little to do with SpaceSim in my case, it's just one of the pfps I commonly use.

[@Kyle_4]

Dude, it’s a white hole

[@physics_hacker]

nah that would repel stuff

[@AlexLexusOfficial]

Exactly what would happen if Saturn didn’t pull Jupiter back

[@physics_hacker]

Not necessarily. Even if it had continued to migrate inward, as a hot jupiter it still may not close in enough to break apart like this.

[@owlredshift]

No, I think he's right, I believe I remember reading in a reader's digest that all planets have TWO pulls. A North pull or, in this case, the sun pulling it apart- and just like earths south pull we have here a Saturn pull. That astronaut James Webb really is something. A great photographer and American hero. Thanks.

[@physics_hacker]

@@owlredshift ...What? That made no sense. Yes, planets have gravitational pulls on each other, as does the sun (gravity is produced by everything with mass) but there is no "north pull" or "south pull", I honestly have no idea what that even means.

[@owlredshift]

@@physics_hacker the earth and planet's are 'die pulls' (German for The Pull's) and are actually huge maggnets. The North pull pulls on the South pull and that's what keeps the planet from exploding in half (like when the Moon formed). if u have a telescope or can use a neighbors one u can see with your own eyes that the solar system doesn't fly apart like Galaxy's do. weird right?? But they pull together and the sun keeps all the other baby maggnets (planets and space junk) because they all stick together from the electronic-maggnet fours (this is invisible so you can't use that telescope)

[@ortherner]

No

[@Servenifer]

Not realtome at all

[@physics_hacker]

It's realtime render, as opposed to the raymarcher renderer this software also has. I used the word render in the title to indicate this. The simulation itself is not realtime but the rendering is. I put it in the title to differentiate it from the raymarcher version that I also posted, so that people would know at a glance what the difference between this and the other similar video was.