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@gvbraz12
@gvbraz12 9 күн бұрын
This wolves are better than all supports during the midgame
@youtubeeee6682
@youtubeeee6682 9 күн бұрын
pudge, enchantress, chen, nyx with dagon
@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891
@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891 9 күн бұрын
​@@youtubeeee6682 pugde dagon, lol
@youtubeeee6682
@youtubeeee6682 9 күн бұрын
@ pudge q
@rev9115
@rev9115 9 күн бұрын
​@youtubeeee6682 my guy supports are going to be picked first
@echoftw
@echoftw 9 күн бұрын
Spirit Wolves gives you a lesser God's Strength that is nearly permanent (5 seconds of downtime). Play spirit wolves and you will be literally hitting for 700...with a 40% crit chance and a shit ton of HP
@iutubsacs
@iutubsacs 8 күн бұрын
Upvote this to get BSJ to upload a live gameplay of this Lycan build. Been a long time since he done one of those anyway and good opportunity to see him learn Lycan better himself.
@Billy_Herrington1969
@Billy_Herrington1969 9 күн бұрын
60% of the time, jungle Venom loses everytime
@RubInWax
@RubInWax 9 күн бұрын
60% does not = EVERYtime
@Billy_Herrington1969
@Billy_Herrington1969 9 күн бұрын
@@RubInWax Someone is uncultured, I see
@ammarshamsul1217
@ammarshamsul1217 9 күн бұрын
@@Billy_Herrington1969 anchor man lmao
@Billy_Herrington1969
@Billy_Herrington1969 9 күн бұрын
@@ammarshamsul1217 Immortal on like, 4 accounts, what's deeply concerning is that the joke flew right over your head, laughing my ass off
@tobyrose-gb9iw
@tobyrose-gb9iw 9 күн бұрын
venom jungler means griefing role abuser
@-lilith-9325
@-lilith-9325 9 күн бұрын
Con confirm, im only archon but i stomp every game with Venomancer with this Facet. The amount of vision and blink cancels i can do is wild, won 17 games out of my last 20 with him since i switched to this facet
@Colopty
@Colopty 9 күн бұрын
Kinda wish the emotional support wolves were good since it's by far the funniest of his facets.
@GadBoDag
@GadBoDag 9 күн бұрын
I have enjoyed playing with them, since it makes Lycan the simplest hero in the game. You just buy items, howl, and chomp people. It's like playing Skeleton King back in the day.
@echoftw
@echoftw 9 күн бұрын
It's a near permanent God's Strength when combined with Feral Impulse and the right talents. Add that to 40% crit chance and a FUCK ton of HP? Why would you go with 2 shitty summons that die to any AoE when you can just chunk people for 700 a hit? Lycan is all-stats.... You can get 700 attack damage with defensive items thanks to spirit wolves LOL
@jorgea.coronado4389
@jorgea.coronado4389 9 күн бұрын
@@echoftwhonestly I haven’t had the balls to do it in a real game, but I pick that shit in turbo and this guy is right you will have a rapier just by pressing q lmao. Some heroes get one shotted if you ult too haha it’s fucking great.
@rev9115
@rev9115 9 күн бұрын
@echoftw wolves enable scouting, bodyblock, camp stack, free haras, free lane farming... not much on their own but little things adds up
@echoftw
@echoftw 8 күн бұрын
@@rev9115 and spirit wolves gives you a lesser God's Strength with a mere 5 seconds of downtime. You hit like Red Sven but all the time, and with a 40% crit chance and unslowable movement.... You can still get free assists with howl at night while u farm. And also hit like a truck super early in the game.
@josephreynolds2401
@josephreynolds2401 9 күн бұрын
Both heroes in my roster. Lycan looks disgusting against tilt-prone supports which is basically a free W. Thanks for the showcase, Bsj.
@dantegrabowski1109
@dantegrabowski1109 9 күн бұрын
i got confused and played lycan support
@Nortrin
@Nortrin 9 күн бұрын
I would like to hear your thoughts about Kez
@impidimp9331
@impidimp9331 7 күн бұрын
Every coms when there is a lycan at the early stages of the game: HELP HELP WOLVES IM DYNG
@invven2750
@invven2750 9 күн бұрын
You know valve has been slow when BSJ can release meta update video and 3 weeks later same patch
@estebanacgo-o9019
@estebanacgo-o9019 9 күн бұрын
Dazzle can farm ancients quite easy with poison spread
@shazwimalik6087
@shazwimalik6087 9 күн бұрын
honestly, i played veno everyday, tried both facet, but both need you to be tanky, coz if not, you would be the first one they hunted, theres 2 ways for me to play the ward facets, spam it around you so they would give vision and hit those with blink, or put it on urself or ur initiator (some of em would be angry about this), and the other facet, buy refresher and blink, use ult on 1 hero, wait awhile after the ult bounces, refresh and put on another hero again.
@dimitrijemirkovic8971
@dimitrijemirkovic8971 9 күн бұрын
I got tilted by my pos 4 ogre being toxic after the bounty runes spawned and went jungle as Axe level 1. I got blink, 2 bracers and phase boots by min 13 as a jungler.
@mattisriiskjrbentsen3604
@mattisriiskjrbentsen3604 7 күн бұрын
Imagine combining the two: Lycan wolves with veno wards on them!
@tienhoangminh6874
@tienhoangminh6874 9 күн бұрын
how about combining them , invisible gatling gun wolf
@DemolishWeaklings37
@DemolishWeaklings37 9 күн бұрын
Venomancer is very good as a jungler in 2025 and he is played like this at 14k mmr in Europe, basically higher than you can ever imagine. NA is dogpoop compared to EU and everyone knows this. All you need for this to work is Bristleback that knows how to play on offlane. Even if he gets demolished, he gets levels, and sometimes he can win 1v2 because the hero is not fair. I got mana boots on veno jungle at like minute 2 and then I go straight for Skadi. I come out at around minute 10 with a Skadi. After lvl 6 I join fights and when ult is on cd I just perma farm. Always start radiant near the well for extra mana regen and you are good to go. No tangos needed if you kite properly. It's very strong and viable.
@Mord314
@Mord314 6 күн бұрын
I play in grief queue, and I started playing Kotl 3 as a preventative measure for my support hard griefing my laning phase.
@JoeMama-ik3cs
@JoeMama-ik3cs 8 күн бұрын
3:14 He says max howl, but screen shows maxing feral impulse. which is it?
@mmortal8183
@mmortal8183 9 күн бұрын
I swore we would have seen beast master in the jungle since he has that crazy innate.
@BB8enjoyer
@BB8enjoyer 4 күн бұрын
Don't change it. I need it for when my mid got stolen
@KaungKhantZaw-w6y
@KaungKhantZaw-w6y 9 күн бұрын
Actually I found that I been countered by Dagon for the Lycan wolves when 2 supports started building it and everyone else buy one think it's trash to play with Alpha Wolves Facet after that cuz I cant play well in mid game without having the wolves or using them efficiently.
@echoftw
@echoftw 9 күн бұрын
Spirit Wolves is his best facet. It's a near-permanent lesser God's Strength. You can literally hit for 600 building Harpoon and nothing but defensive items
@SuperThunderPanda
@SuperThunderPanda 8 күн бұрын
tip: if u have no heroes for killing wolves go midas/dagon
@ZMSTA
@ZMSTA 5 күн бұрын
Tide carry is the secret of the patch.
@salvadordilluvio382
@salvadordilluvio382 9 күн бұрын
Great to watch your videos more often again
@xswankylegx6904
@xswankylegx6904 9 күн бұрын
I think it depends on your bracket. In my shitty bracket jungling can work but I feel like in higher bracket they will punish the solo lane way harder and not just let the jungler free farm.
@dantegrabowski1109
@dantegrabowski1109 9 күн бұрын
id say other way around kinda. low bracket offlaner will feed relentlessly and high bracket one might be ale to get the most out of it
@kevindownes9474
@kevindownes9474 9 күн бұрын
It’s more about giving the enemy core free farm
@dantegrabowski1109
@dantegrabowski1109 9 күн бұрын
@ yea but that has been adressed. youre not supposed to afk, just take some camps xd
@xswankylegx6904
@xswankylegx6904 9 күн бұрын
@@dantegrabowski1109 I could see that angle. As someone who is in the lower brackets I can tell you that Veno jungle works. I've done it a few times (in unranked) and I'll come out of the jungle at min 7 with level 6 and arcane boots, urn and a mek and it doesn't matter how bad the offlaner was doing the lane is now won.
@dhonerl5672
@dhonerl5672 8 күн бұрын
I CAN CONFIRM THIS VENO JUNGLE MY GOODNESSSSSS I was demolished ancient rank it just went out and had level 8 while i was 5 as juggernaut babysitted
@xxMurmaiderxx
@xxMurmaiderxx 3 күн бұрын
It looks like Lycan has an 8% higher win rate in the Immortal bracket with Pack Leader vs Alpha Wolves. Is this uber pro strat only or do people just not play it correctly?
@federicocapriotti2180
@federicocapriotti2180 9 күн бұрын
If the wolves are the all point of this version of lycan, then why not playing him pos 4, building drums, vladimir solar, that you put on wolves etc?
@federicocapriotti2180
@federicocapriotti2180 9 күн бұрын
Edit: I auto reply to me...cause he needs a lot of exp to max wolves and support doesn't get that much
@rev9115
@rev9115 9 күн бұрын
​@federicocapriotti2180 then why are you not playing mid
@rev9115
@rev9115 9 күн бұрын
@Rev9115 because wolves has less value when enemy is close to tower
@DiloramKomilova-rr2jz
@DiloramKomilova-rr2jz 9 күн бұрын
​@@rev9115I I played against mid Lycan on ember few days ago. He was useless
@shadowgaleshale9218
@shadowgaleshale9218 9 күн бұрын
the point of this version is the exp power spike that gives wolf root. lycan takes farm to reach exp spike asap. carry lycan can use main hero to farm further items while wolf shred.
@dannidribbl
@dannidribbl 9 күн бұрын
Love the weekly update BSJ. Keep it up!
@chonkerdoggo7132
@chonkerdoggo7132 9 күн бұрын
Supports: *Necro3 trauma resurfacing
@MREiermann1000
@MREiermann1000 9 күн бұрын
i like arc warden more for this tbh. ult, midas a big creep and send ur clone to a upcoming teamfight and spam ur spells. at lvl 7 you can kill most heroes with that and the clone scales into lategame.
@HasiburRahim
@HasiburRahim 9 күн бұрын
but isnt arc too slow compared to other midlaners? i had this game with puck where he beat me to a pulp but after 35min all of a sudden i wiped them and ended the game.
@MREiermann1000
@MREiermann1000 9 күн бұрын
@@HasiburRahim both is fine. i mean the parralel of farming creeps with ur hero, while teamfighting with ur clone. your spells at lvl 7 are insanely strong.
@CastlesKingSide
@CastlesKingSide 9 күн бұрын
In Archon/early Legend, so many double squishy supps and mid sniper, easy Lycan games. And I am taking the no micro 2nd facet. You do bonkers damage, once you have harpoon nulli and bkb you can clean 2-3 heroes. Let the team deal with the offlaner and carry.
@rhyanrichjanubas8302
@rhyanrichjanubas8302 9 күн бұрын
Bsj New video = Time to update my ban list.
@rickyrico900
@rickyrico900 9 күн бұрын
Pretty insane that BS was effectively left to free farm a solo lane after 4-5 minutes. The enemy team was just braindead.
@jorgealbertoolarte7021
@jorgealbertoolarte7021 9 күн бұрын
bold of you to call braindead people with the same mmr than crit. What is your mmr again?
@PrivilegeYT
@PrivilegeYT 9 күн бұрын
​@@jorgealbertoolarte7021I'm 9k mmr. this bracket is full of account buyers. Some players are indeed braindead
@rickyrico900
@rickyrico900 9 күн бұрын
@@jorgealbertoolarte7021ah yes the MMR police are here! Great contribution Jorge Alberto. Fun fact, you can comment on objectively bad strategy and execution regardless of MMR. I’m 6k FYI but not crit MMR because I have a job outside of Dota. I was mostly talking about nyx who effectively pulled the wave once and then proceeded to walk around the map and feed from minute 5-10. Tell me any MMR where this is good form.
@blueping9278
@blueping9278 9 күн бұрын
Why is if any hero is good its always sent to safelane? SF , Templar , Bristleback and now Lycan
@coltontolbert1019
@coltontolbert1019 9 күн бұрын
because if around lvl 3-4 they can survive in lane by themselves, it frees up the 5 to have impact on the map, while allowing your safelaner to still be a safelaner without being babysat
@jacoblott5261
@jacoblott5261 10 күн бұрын
I would watch a daily slark episode..
@bartvanbouwel7031
@bartvanbouwel7031 9 күн бұрын
speeed went full veno jungle one of the first games of fissure playground with NS solo safelane and he was lvl 10 min 9 clearing only triangle camps
@BB8enjoyer
@BB8enjoyer 4 күн бұрын
Why does lycan look like a better Naga
@kenpachizaza1179
@kenpachizaza1179 9 күн бұрын
So nice getting 4 melee teammates as veno sup.
@InfinityHS
@InfinityHS 9 күн бұрын
Thoughts on Riki support 2025
@ottosormunen7620
@ottosormunen7620 9 күн бұрын
So when do you start joining fights as an alpha doge Lycan with your hero?
@DUDUDUDUDUDU-x4d
@DUDUDUDUDUDU-x4d 9 күн бұрын
is it only me or the more i see BSJ he is more and more pale like vampire ....
@janandric9619
@janandric9619 9 күн бұрын
bro is not doing commentary hes glazing the guy
@alifhafizbinjasni5644
@alifhafizbinjasni5644 9 күн бұрын
I see lycan pop up again, i rest from dota til the next nerf patch
@ruelbatuto3482
@ruelbatuto3482 9 күн бұрын
this is only good if you play with mates not on public...
@omranalshamsi8278
@omranalshamsi8278 9 күн бұрын
Love this
@joaquinfriedmann8074
@joaquinfriedmann8074 10 күн бұрын
Bsj goated
@emofound
@emofound 9 күн бұрын
Neat. Veno getting some love 😘
@lambspoo
@lambspoo 9 күн бұрын
Forgot about Lv11 Hightail there BSJ....
@fairy6818
@fairy6818 9 күн бұрын
Phew, I misread the title.
@kingheenokgaming4783
@kingheenokgaming4783 9 күн бұрын
What I see is a veno with only 1 core that is gonna loose in 25 min 😅
@RGollie03
@RGollie03 9 күн бұрын
As BSJ mentioned, Venos job is to trade resources and kills. With that in mind you have to look at DPS and it's counters. The best way to reliably counter dam of any kind is health, whether through regeneration or stat items. Obviously positioning and spell casting are huge but as your opportunities are vs risk, health pool counters your main hinderence. As veno is a universal hero now, he gains so much health if you itemise accordingly. TRY starting items: blood grenade, fluffy hat, branch x2, tangos, faerie fire and obs. Get poison touch then you extra dam, are tanky, can fly mana regen to you. This creates huge bait potential from players chasing a heavy harass tanky hero. I usually rush wand and bracer by which point you have over 1k hp (with raindrops if needed). This catches loads of ppl off guard and if you have an aggro carry hero is guranteed kills level 2/3 up. The great thing about that is that ppl want revenge and because of that you will attract aggro away from your pos 1, make people focus u all game out of anger (which you especially want as a pseudotank veno). Lategame get aeon disk and refresher late(which is why the patient 0 facet is better) the impact from double contagious ult is amazing in teamfights or extremely useful by allowing you 2 very strong pick off initiations in the same move. As pos 5 you get a force staff or glimmer after boots. I mostly get arcane boots unless your carry goes jungle and you want to rush a farm/utility item like gliepnier which i amplify with power treads which only marginally delays your force. The 10 str from treads on top of the other early tank items can also be useful. GL HF winning consistency with pos 5 (I've won 20 from last 25 at 3k MMR from this).
@rickyrico900
@rickyrico900 9 күн бұрын
TLDR
@banishedbr
@banishedbr 9 күн бұрын
Imagine if we had a neutral with invis to HotD o ; - ))))))) PURISU DESU icefrog san
@SuperThunderPanda
@SuperThunderPanda 8 күн бұрын
lvl5/6 wolves build lol
@kozzmin
@kozzmin 9 күн бұрын
i played veno sup like cr1t like 3 months ago. then i went to poe2
@axxaurelian89
@axxaurelian89 8 күн бұрын
lol i waited this clip :) i was wining so easy in guardian with LYCAN and i am still 35 y old noob with 8k games ... so its overpowered ...thats why
@Donn2k
@Donn2k 9 күн бұрын
F jungle veno supports. I hate it on my team. Not to mention they put wards on you even if you tell them not to. I hope it disappears soon
@vyassathya3772
@vyassathya3772 9 күн бұрын
bsj is so clueless about veno
@jorge5531
@jorge5531 9 күн бұрын
you look like bzm dude
@Meyveda
@Meyveda 7 күн бұрын
Good game but seems so late?
@FajarBakuhLumaksono
@FajarBakuhLumaksono 9 күн бұрын
auuuuu
@navidnouri3768
@navidnouri3768 9 күн бұрын
Let me hit this camp, literally 2 seconds later, oh my carry is dead
@echoftw
@echoftw 9 күн бұрын
Alpha wolves suck. Spend all your time microing them out of and around AoE just to get a melee attack? At least Rexxar's boar is ranged. The wolves suck. Spirit Wolves gives you the HP to survive fights and a poor man's God's Strength worth of damage when you factor in Feral Impulse and all the talents. Why get 2 shitty summons that die to any AoE when you can just get a Q that is basically a poor mans permannent God's Strength and you can run around hitting for SEVEN HUNDRED??!?!?!??!
@SL-es1pb
@SL-es1pb 9 күн бұрын
lycan concepts are really hard to understand in herald man, i understand.
@shadowgaleshale9218
@shadowgaleshale9218 9 күн бұрын
did u watch the video. lycan gets to farm while his wolves kill people and 2v1 enemies around the map. with spirit wolves if u wanna kill enemy then u waste ur time not farming
@incoma6628
@incoma6628 9 күн бұрын
One of the most cancerus guide this man put out XD fun to play but against it? 100% evasion? it screams BROKEN, NEEDS NERF ASAP
@SuperThunderPanda
@SuperThunderPanda 8 күн бұрын
mid lycan even better btw
@Forellekrippe95
@Forellekrippe95 9 күн бұрын
i played lycan offlane got at the end 50k gold while drawing atention by rating and solo farming the enemy jungle and carrying the damm game doing so, and i got 2x times LP cause these dogs rep me for doing so. ffr im so sick of this game Match-ID: 8148599355
@echoftw
@echoftw 9 күн бұрын
My brother, come to Turbo. It is the promised land. It was what DotA was always meant to be. They are lying to you. Idk if you were a Warcraft 3 player, but its like the -apem of old. Regular dota and ranked are fucking garbage. The game is supposed to be fun!
@Forellekrippe95
@Forellekrippe95 9 күн бұрын
bro i swear, i read ur comment, played a match turbo after that right now, and i had immediatley a guy named "mid or feeding script". and his name was exactly his behavior is this common already? Match-ID: 8152913360 for anyone who is reading this, i do urself a fvor, and dont play solo. its unplayable no matter which role u play. i was over 5k. only reason to play for me is to get immortal and stopping right at that point.
@echoftw
@echoftw 8 күн бұрын
@@Forellekrippe95 you bought the lie that grinding rank is fun. You should try turbo where the game is ACTUALLY fun
@abyss9877
@abyss9877 9 күн бұрын
HON reborn comming soon guys :D
@legendarynoob4689
@legendarynoob4689 9 күн бұрын
Please not my games.... veno jungle is just griefing
@thedominatortechtips1751
@thedominatortechtips1751 10 күн бұрын
First
@rmac0101
@rmac0101 9 күн бұрын
You win since the other one has a bot username
@Edwin-hi7tp
@Edwin-hi7tp 10 күн бұрын
FIRST!
@horodhorod509
@horodhorod509 9 күн бұрын
I love venomancer) when solo it is weak, that’s true.
@thesilentkiller4467
@thesilentkiller4467 9 күн бұрын
I hate veno support its trash to play with
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