Just a FEW Reasons WHY I Switched to PVE on

[@Velion83]

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[@PLAYER2035]

PVE actually feels way more immersive and truer to how the game is meant to be experienced

[@jackbender3688]

It COULD easily, the problem that kills the immersion for me is the fact that every map has 3-4ish PMC spawns, and they don’t really move from those spots unless they are agro’ed. Today’s patch might change all of that!!

[@zombiejelly4111]

@@jackbender3688nope todays patch just proved BSG can’t optimize their game if their life DEPENDED on it

[@PotatoeGamerLP]

​@@zombiejelly4111that's because the server is running on your PC the ai does move more now

[@InsaneActual]

​@@jackbender3688 that patch did change that! its awesome.

[@keenanscruton3973]

@@jackbender3688spt has mods that make the pmcs move around the map and act very similar to players..

[@BasegFarmer]

If BSG puts any effort into PMC AI, PvE could be so sick.

[@Velion83]

Agreed 100%

[@Mr.Finpherferriswheel_The_3rd]

I wish they would just add mod support because the SAIN and big brain mod in spt are so fun and customizable for your own difficulty level.

[@faust5946]

I just started playing tarkov because I heard they added PvE. I love this game and its a lot of fun with friends. I dont ever plan on playing PvP because of how much Ive heard about hackers and I dont want to compete with people that have thousands of hours and/or the best gear. Also PvE has been hard enough for me. The AI is very accurate when it wants to be.

[@judyfps5059]

At this point the PVP mode feels like 2009 COD World at War with people flyhacking and aimbotting being invincible and shit. That’s my main reason for being in pve now

[@Velion83]

Yep lol

[@JonfromNC]

I play PVE only simply because it doesn't have the pressure to keep up with everyone gear and task wise. I can take my time, play as little or as much as I want. Just a far more enjoyable and relaxing for me at least. (Old Grumpy Jon)

[@FlyingAces]

I've had Tarkov since 2018/19-ish, and really never enjoyed the mid-game grind. Good gear getting more and more locked out, cheaters, lag, those 'no clue' deaths... Ever since making the switch to PVE, I've never looked back. The game has become significantly more enjoyable while staying challenging for us casual players. I still die, but I can count on a single hand how many times I don't know how I died (compared to the exact opposite on PVP).

[@ctraugh2005]

I love PVE, my only complaint about it is the AI. The Scavs and PMC's dont fight on sight all the time. They will shoot me from across the map but they can be standing next to each other and no fighting. That needs to be addressed, but dont miss PVP at all.

[@Velion83]

Agreed dude the AI are insane!

[@vicrodrigues8228]

Because it's for the working class for me

[@Danimal_Mtb]

I’m loving PVE! I can learn maps and still accomplish missions without having to worry about potential cheaters, chads or campers

[@pbpancakes1617]

The PvP Vs PvE argument reminds me of the Dubbed vs Subbed anime argument.

[@theazurian2778]

Thats why I do SP tarkov, modded the damn thing to be close enough to PVP combat experience with streamer AI doing the craziest COD type pushes and increased AI spawn rates to have more extreme fun

[@kyleadams1434]

Having this problem while only having 1-2 hours to play at times is the main reason Ive been stuck on PVE. I miss a good pvp fight but I value my sanity more lol GGs all

[@Velion83]

Hopefully it gets better when wipe happens.

[@kyleadams1434]

@@Velion83 I surely hope so, cheaters just keep evolving lol

[@clpthegamer3129]

i switched becuse of cheaters and just the absurde tryhard full gear people at day 2 after a wipe, if a AI Bot kills me i go "Touche, i could have done that better" and i move on, but when cheaters get you, you lose everything and dont even learn anything in return

[@Chasemacphersonmusic]

Honestly I can’t bring myself to PvP again when I know there are cheaters, obviously there’s gonna be cheaters no matter what we all know that, I just find PvE more enjoyable for the simple fact of no cheaters, all they gotta do on PvE is put the AI on player level then it’ll be just as good. But the SPT stuff I get why people are playing it I just can’t bring myself to do it because of the mod aspect, that just might be being a “vanilla” guy when it comes to that stuff but PvE is where it’s at right now

[@viniciusschadeck4992]

I hate PVE, but i hate even more WIPES, soo i bought PVE to play without wipes... I'am not streamer, i'am not a person that can play a lot, soo, each wipe even trying play all free time possible i just get arround level 30, not good, the reduced time to play get me less knowledge and aim trainning, soo is really impossible to get that long against others players no matters if it is hacks or chads, even against low quality players the fights are hard already. The wipeless to PVP was my dream, when i bought the game, nikita was posting how servers without wipes will be there soon, the only reasson i bought the game in first time, now i had 1500+ hours divided by tons of wipes, and no one i reach any nice stuff... This game is fucking pay to win and not respect player time for sure, at least in PVE i will be able to check the end game content once LOL

[@bearman129]

Seeing the player character flipping and spinning upon death put a smile on me.

[@MrBobbysmithinhouser]

Pve is absolutely great......it has made me a better player and I'm actually doing all the tasks and learning instead of quitting right after level 15 and I still get one tapped here and there so it feels like Tarkov lol

[@InsaneActual]

after the last pve update its so much fun when pve first launched it felt like an unfinished state.

[@mortem5460]

PVE is something i can just come home and play and not need to worry about someone sitting in a corner for half the raid or a cheater another thing is being a solo is prob the worst way to play the game u can play as good as u want but getting ran down by a 5 man every other raid just sucks its my 3rd wipe and i got my first kappa and for some reason the drive to wanna keep playing the game just disappeared for me and alot of that comes from the people no one moves or there is always another person waiting for u or someone is just cheating i feel pve is good for those who dont want to deal with the bs that happens on the pvp side

[@rtrezclap]

Running through the quests on PvE to stay fresh atm and to avoid the bs in live, on top of the fact that the novelty for Tarkov wore off for me a while ago. PvE will be a sleeper soon but it's great for practice.

[@Velion83]

Smart move TBH!

[@MegaBe4m]

Same reason why I strictly play PvE. It's a blessing to not deal with cheaters

[@Velion83]

It is super nice! Do you get bored playing?

[@MegaBe4m]

@@Velion83in pvp I'm not a chad to begin with. Playing PvE makes me feel like a chad for the first time. Can actually get high tier loot on the regular. Maybe it'll get boring later after achieving everything though, but it'll be a while

[@sprie23]

literally havent touched normal tark since pve came out

[@Velion83]

What level are you?

[@panzerabteilung]

i tried spt tarkov, and the loot feels much better, almost every stash has usfull items, i dunno if its good or bad, but definetly different from the original experience. Off course i wont pay 20 eur to play PVE

[@ZacElCapitan]

bruh look around for the SPT mods, SAIN and some of the modifiers will make ur experience seriously fun.

[@ProbablyFat]

I love pve. It brought me back to enjoying Tarkov with my friends. Sure, in time I really hope the AI gets better, with more dynamic patrols/interactions

[@reptilianoverlord7627]

SPT you can make the AI better. It's a good time

[@l337fox]

I love PvE! Everything I enjoy about Tarkov with non of the cheating bullshit!

[@jasonbrody1134]

Same

[@EndbossProductions]

of course there is no cheating bs without other playes - there is not thrill and tension of pvp either

[@jasonbrody1134]

@@EndbossProductions well alot of people are having fun playing PVE idk what to tell ya

[@EndbossProductions]

@@jasonbrody1134 weirdos ^^

[@jasonbrody1134]

@@EndbossProductions I find it weirder that you care so much how others have fun playing tarkov, get over yourself bruh you're the literal poster boy for that stop having fun meme.

[@mn1907]

they need solo queue for pvp

[@Lxkus]

tried pve for the first time yesterday on customs and immediately ran into knight, big pipe, and birdeye and they were the easiest kills ive ever seen but got one tap afterwards by some random scav I never seen or heard

[@SeekerDan]

Wow, you and that dog so freaking cute

[@Velion83]

Thank you!!

[@hackmedia7755]

It's better if less people play pvp because of cheaters, then the cheaters will be bored. Then BSG might actually do something about it. I know how to code and it just seems like they dont care enough about the players or customers. I really hate companies that dont pay attention to their customer.

[@FSTHalo]

Moved over to PVE a while ago and it kept the game alive for me, few friends moved over to it after they got ratted constantly and when they don't get ratted they die in sus ways.

[@jasko346]

Bought this game for over $150 and played 6 games with experienced sherpa. Out of 6 games we died 3 times to cheaters. All 3 of us instant deaths every time. I put the game away and said goodbye to $150. Went back to it when they released the PVE and I am having great time. Y’all stop crying about PVE and go play with cheaters nobody is telling you to stop playing PVP lol. Do what you like but don’t shit on people that enjoy PVE.

[@Velion83]

@@jasko346 who is shitting on pvp?

[@jasko346]

@@Velion83 not PVP. They talk crap about PVE. It’s just people in the comments. Nothing about your video :)

[@chantz7515]

just because you die instantly does not mean a cheater kills you. Lots of players regardless of level (and I'm sure your sherpas told you this) like to more or less stay out of sight and only fire until they know they have a guaranteed kill. People don't do that all the time but most raids its very unlikely you're going to have a "fight" with the guy who kills you/you kill. No matter how youtubers make the game seem.

[@jasko346]

@@chantz7515 I understand. But more experienced people can tell when they die by a cheater. I’m new to Tarkov but have 12k hours in DayZ I can spot a cheater in DayZ every time.

[@chantz7515]

@@jasko346 agreed. however the "experienced players" are usually accusing people more often just because they think they're better than every other player. So if they lose a fight they're more inclined to say the guy is cheating. lol

[@huguenard4339]

Brooo how’s your heart lol energy drinks are not good for you.

[@Velion83]

I drink 1 a day lol

[@brentmurray4201]

PVE is already fun but if they improve the AI it could become the actual experience they intended with the game.

[@Velion83]

@@brentmurray4201 that will be nice to see.

[@PLAYER2035]

they are improving it in tonights patch but they really need the SAIN mod AI from SPT

[@TrickZ666]

I just got back into Tarkov last wipe and when PvE came out I started playing that and never looked back.. I was only killed by cheaters a couple of times but it feels so gutwrenching and it really does ruin the experience to where I just didn't enjoy the game anymore. hopefully the adjustments they make today make the ai feel more immersive. 👍🏻

[@heizeul3202]

The only problem is the mess they made with the new patch

[@justanothermunday-dp2dk]

They already fixed it for the most part

[@saltydroog854]

I've been playing on the SIT mod for SPT for a while now. It's immeasurably more fun than regular Tarkov. The behavioral mods for the AI are amazing. It really makes me wonder WTF BSG is doing with their AI development, when these modders can do such a better job. So I would argue that if you are going to play PVE, you are objectively better off doing it on SPT. And with the SIT mod, you are still able to play with your friends.

[@Velion83]

@@saltydroog854 I may have to try it.

[@saltydroog854]

@@Velion83 The AI is amazing. You get PMC AI that spawns with a goal. It's not just replacing scavs with raiders and calling them PMCs. They spawn like PMCs in PMC spawns with an intent. They may be trying to complete a map specific mission, or loot a specific spot, or looking for a a specific type of loot, and then they exfil. They also spawn in teams, and work like real players. They jiggle peak, hold angles while another flanks. It's really amazing. You need to a few mods to make them act that way, but it's worth it.

[@maxpowyszynski636]

@@saltydroog854 its alright, I would agree it makes pve look silly but it wont be enough for a good pvp player. the bots just arent hard enough

[@maxpowyszynski636]

ya but why do pve and not just spt?

[@justanothermunday-dp2dk]

Because he doesn’t want to catch a ban lol

[@purpleguy3924]

@Elmhurst99_ its against tos so u technically u can. except u will never actually get banned realistically

[@soul4109]

he was probably floating above you guys dropping nades and shooting gl's lol that's why I'm waiting to play again until wipe, it's been really bad this wipe man. I introduced 3 of my friends to tarkov this wipe and got all of us playing together but nobody wants to progress now because of the cheaters so they all play dayz and stuff. I tried to like "Oh it's just every once in a while" but got spawn spammed by cheaters like 3 times back to back lmao.

[@Velion83]

Honestly I was so confused.. You're right tho!

[@haslammmo9173]

Play SinglePlayerTarkov, install yourself some mods and enjoy tarkov again. It's that simple. If you're talking about the $250 PVE, firstly shame on you for buying that. Secondly, SPT is superior, and allways will be. 1000's of mods to choose from. You paid to enjoy the game less.

[@PrinceAl21987]

lol you’re slow headed

[@BubblePuddle_]

They've already given their pve mode to eod players, so you don't have to purchase bsg's cashgrab of a bundle. Plus I've tried spt and while yes there's more stuff and the game is way better, i've stuck with bsg's pve mode since I like playing with friends and setting up a tailscale and fika is waaaay too much hassle.

[@falloffsss]

boohoo

[@Plaer1]

People will spend money how they want, no issue with that

[@haslammmo9173]

@@PrinceAl21987 Your brain cell needs recharging after buying unheard edition

[@VGDomination]

These vids are crazy to me when SPT exists and is wildly better…

[@Velion83]

I just can't bring myself to play PVE or SPT. Its not fun when you're fighting just bots it doesnt give me a purpose.

[@VGDomination]

@@Velion83 yeah it’s terrible. It’s lonely.

[@Magnus-q7g]

@@Velion83 Nothing wrong with that, but playing PvE is still a billion times better than playing some mid tier single player game. It still scratches the itch of looting, tasking and just playing the game without all the bullshit. And SPT pmcs are better and more advanced than 80% of tarkov players so it's a better "experience" to fight them. It's mostly just weird mindset people have with "omg tarkov pve is lame lmao, imagine not playing pvp nerd" mostly just brainrot.

[@igasuguseidasju1699]

I bought Tarkov in the VERY beginning. Played it loved it...hated it. Then it went off the rockers and it was just pain and suffering and waiting in ques for tens of minutes just to die in 20 seconds to face shot. Also when all the chads and normies came and ruined the game by just making it look like PUBG with all the running and bunnyhoping and absurd movment. Now i have not played 2 years already.. But i cannot stoop to a level of playing against bots. I just play Squad now.

[@silversteele6624]

@@Velion83 Your video is literally called "Why I switched to PVE" so wtf are you talking about? LMAO! So which is it?

[@hiimlamp837]

I would watch you play only PVE Vellion

[@Velion83]

Its so boring to me lol

[@ricecake3544]

2:35 idk man running towards the guy without ammo seems like a solid play in my books

[@LuxTheFolf]

LMAO I know right? 😂

[@MrLex87]

What if these huge streamers were already playing PVE mode before it came out to the public and tricked us into thinking they were playing real players 🤔. Nvm 🤣

[@MotoGoburr]

omg, a fellow weiner dog owner x) my dog started tilting hes head when he heard that Awoo hahahahah

[@Velion83]

I show him everyday in stream!!

[@sangheilizealot5787]

Is NA that much infested with Cheaters?? EUW is pretty much nothing maybe 3 cheater in 1400 hours.

[@Velion83]

@@sangheilizealot5787 it's bad

[@somethingoriginal6212]

Can also confirm it’s very bad. So many ppl cheat and pay for cheaters to carry them. I have 2k hours in pvp and recently switched over to pve. Even tho it’s broken still way more fun.

[@xanderav2547]

i play on west coast servers and its really not that bad. i run good gear and have only run into a couple blatant cheaters across 2k hours. occasionaly ill get killed by a low hour account in a weird way but normally not that many cheaters

[@JamesBrown-xb7yi]

barely come across any cheaters on EU

[@A7X062388]

Yes it is. No need to watch the video. Way more fun than pvp

[@xishma.gaming]

Pve is lit for warm up btw I'm lv 66 on pve 😅

[@Velion83]

Do you get bored?

[@xishma.gaming]

@@Velion83 yes

[@theguyonyoutube4826]

Its beacuse you have a blue name. Cheaters are hunting you double now, stream snipers + anti blue namers

[@Velion83]

Content for me. I'm ok with it.

[@theguyonyoutube4826]

@@Velion83 play pve, hop on to PvP for an hour to farm cheating clips then back to pve hahaha

[@k1roextophia28]

probadly

[@Magnus-q7g]

Most of them don't care they just tap anyone, they know they wont even get banned with hundreds of reports while rage hacking, can't wait to get my hacker report compensations 4 months later, if ever

[@saltydroog854]

Dude...SPT and SIT are so much better. naked, just as they come they are the same thing as BSG's PVE. But there are some really really good AI behavior mods that make it 10x better. I don't understand why anyone would play on BSG's PVE. If you just want to play solo, SPT is usually only a few weeks behind whatever the latest version of Tarkov is. If you want to play with friends, the SIT build allows you to run a server locally and your friends can connect to it peer to peer. You have access to all the server's values, such as drop rates and AI spawns...venders...etc. You can really completely customize the game. Their AI (with the right mods) will actually spawn like other players, with goals. They might move to a quest location, perform a task, and then exfil. Or they may spawn in with the goal of looting a specific location and exfilling. And they fight like players. they jiggle peek, they hold angles, they flank, they may or may not respond to voice lines. It;s really insane. BSG should be ashamed of their AI after seeing this.

[@sepachortels6366]

Lol

[@zachmo88]

Eft sucks in general so bad now

[@SMELLSLIKEUPDOG321]

Ok then stop watching video and unfollow all the streamers that play it ? Oh wait you would rather bitch like a child

[@crangert]

Oh yeah, we hear that famous “current state of Tarkov” bullshit from the perpetual whiners every year. And the game just won't die, somehow.

[@zachmo88]

@crangert true. I said my statement and I stick to it. Iv played for 6 yrs. I un-installed 3 weeks. Ago. Might come back one day after full release but not until then. But I won't go around every video crying. It's sad really is all.

[@erikskytt1]

Its fun for a bit. Then it misses some fun pvp i Got Kappa in 14 days on PVE and now it is just boring.

[@Velion83]

Same! I love PVP fights. PVE gets super boring once I get 3 hours in.

[@UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ]

I play PvE because I have zero chance against highly skill players like you and your buddies.

[@Velion83]

But don't you wanna learn and get better?

[@ChanchoWins]

@@Velion83 there-s people who like the game but they are just not good enough at gaming. I have friends that like watching tarkov but not playing it and it makes sense because after multiple wipes their survival rate still around 10-15% :(

[@UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ]

@@Velion83 I did. I got better than I ever was. But I know my limits. I was a Timmy and I became a Andy+ practicing on PvE.

[@skizmondo]

@@Velion83 Which one do you think has made me better? playing multiple PvP wipes and making level 30 only once, or playing less than 2 months of PvE and hitting level 50? accomplishing tasks, feats, and looting areas i never thought possible? also which set of achievements has left me with more confidence in my ability to have "fun" playing the game? I play on a $650 Acer Nitro 5 laptop. it stutters everytime i encounter i player and someone starts firing. i literally have to play against other players at a severe disadvantage because of my hardware. i do not have this issue on PvE. because of this glaring disadvantage being removed on PvE side, i have been able to kill the Goons (something i never even imagined id have the skill to do before buying a new PC), deleted every single raid boss (even accomplished the Hustle task), their guards, and have had various raids where i became the gigachad ive always wanted to be, but had been held back by hardware and netcode previously before. i could defintely argue that i am a much better Tarkov player now with my muscle memory being developed over multiple raids taken into the final minutes, vs most raids being cut short within 10 minutes and quite possibly at the first sign of a fight. PvE can easily make one MUCH MUCH better simply because of repetition and practice.

[@hellomynameistroll288]

No hate to anyone but PVE eft is for people wanting to play a game while PVP eft is for content creators and no lifers

[@Velion83]

@@hellomynameistroll288 agreed

[@DistopiaGaming]

I was lucky to get PvE with my EOD since BSG unlocked it after whatever they were doing but, it’s definitely not my cup of tea, I will say it’s the only way I can play with my friends who will not play PvP, but for me PvE is no pressure,no gear fear, no challenge and honestly just no fun. I’m practically just fighting rogues anytime I play since the AI is in some NEED of work. Lucky for me I get my pvp in through arena if I’m really itching but even with ridiculous hackers on PVP it’s still what I would pick over that over willingly playing PvE. For me PvE Tarkov is the most unexciting unfulfilling way to play if it’s what some people like go for it more power to ya, I just think if Tarkov released day 1 PvE then it would be something I wouldn’t be playing the PvP (with the exception of hackers ofc)makes it a game where I WANT to play

[@Grubkiller35]

people really hate click bait titles like this, it implies you sat down an talked about why you like pve. where as you just showed of gameplay of you getting dunked on until you switched to pve. lame dude

[@smok3eh]

people? or you're just upset that you feel like you got "clickbaited", him dying over and over to stupid stuff is WHY he switched to PVE. Its a nice break from all the hackers hunting Unheard players LOL. You're upset for the wrong reason my guy

[@Grubkiller35]

@@smok3eh didn't say it was lame that he switched. The title implied an actual convo. An yes I count as people dumbass

[@Kilanov]

YOU hate these titles. Don't speak for people you don't even know. I saw what I needed to see.

[@masonhales]

+1

[@pityu2137]

@@Grubkiller35 The title basically said a few reasons why he switched and the few reasons were the clips of cheaters killing him

[@spoodergg4767]

Cheer91

[@Velion83]

@@spoodergg4767 don't you even dare.

[@spoodergg4767]

@@Velion83 you can’t stop me

[@daryl.2002]

Cheaters stream sniping

[@Velion83]

@@daryl.2002 yep

[@EndbossProductions]

its content for a few hours yes, but in the long run nobody cares about watching someone killing some braindead npcs

[@Velion83]

AGREEEDDDD

[@reptilianoverlord7627]

cheaters are just considered a part of tarkov now.. haha

[@MetalGuitarEdi]

yep but then again, name one online game without cheaters.

[@Velion83]

Actually so bad. I hate it!

[@81gsmokie16]

@@MetalGuitarEdi its not that its a online game with cheaters that’s the problem but the fact that this game is very well known for having a huge cheating problem.

[@MetalGuitarEdi]

​@@81gsmokie16 I'm aware, look at counter strike, it's 24 years old and the most cheated on game to date, it's doing just alright. Cheating will be an issue always, right?

[@reptilianoverlord7627]

​@@Velion83 Totally agree

[@jay-ti4bt]

Nobody wants to watch this

[@smok3eh]

you sound like you need a hug

[@Velion83]

Thanks for watching bro! Appreciate it. ALSO if you didn't know... When you comment on my video you boost the algorithm to more viewers so more people see it. So thanks for the boost =)

[@dardie9123]

@@Velion83 ye but not like it matters there are so many losers making pve content and giving exuses why they play pve and nobody watches this shit

[@BimzyBH]

@@dardie9123 yet here you are lol

[@deathninja16]

Yes we do. Shut up.

[@cazaconaire-supervivencia-396]

yep...players kill you...and no, PVE is not the solution

[@Velion83]

What do you think is?

[@cazaconaire-supervivencia-396]

@@Velion83 Better anticheat, nevertheless y prefer running into the occasional cheater than killing bots

[@Velion83]

@@cazaconaire-supervivencia-396 god I hope they do that one day.

[@predatorfang]

While yes... PVP can be way more fun than PVE, but running into a cheater in 30% or more of raids completely turns me off from playing it in general. I just get tired of trying to have a fun and challenging experience to get it completely ruined by an immortal rage hacker 3-4 times a night. I don't have the time or patience to deal with it when I have limited time to enjoy the game as it is.

[@garrolmace]

Pve definitely is the solution

[@FatRescueSwimmer04]

PVE is just boring and not challenging at all though is the problem lol

[@mossygamez1380]

Get a job then

[@A7X062388]

Then get a job

[@SJ-xb7lg]

@@mossygamez1380I have a job I don’t even play the game much and even for me pve is brain numbingly easy and hollow. You just suck at video games

[@mmacult5336]

the real reason is that you are scared of better players and you rather act tough with AI

[@Velion83]

LOL tell me you haven't seen my content without telling me you haven't seen my content. You do know I've won like 4 tournaments right?

[@dardie9123]

@@Velion83 no he has a point you arent good at this game so you have to play the baby mode

[@crangert]

Nothing is going to make me switch to a useless pve mode. I came to this game for the challenge and interaction with real people. I came to Tarkov. Not a pseudo-Tarkov with no balls and no soul. I'd rather go out raiding with opponents with human brains with a chance of encountering lags, bugs, and lowlifes with cheats than raid with zero mood imps.

[@bearfpv6121]

You are so brave. My hero!

[@Ryan275k]

I bet you felt so cool writing that dogshit lol

[@Bizcuitt]

good God that was cringe lol

[@ApocalypseCroatia]

Cringe

[@notkotomi]

hit the gym bro quit yapping