JUST IN: Supreme Court Hears Arguments In Case That Could End Affirmative Action

[@FirstOdin420]

It's racist, get rid of it.

[@drvoodoo3073]

It really is exactly that, it’s straight up racism in every sense of that word.

[@SchrodingersPussyCat]

Given our Birth Rate in due time = 2-3 decades, there will never again be a white President, and competition for White Americans will face others w/ 90% at Harvard, Yale, Berkeley, Princeton, Columbia, or 2nd tier Campuses like UCLA & USC full of non-whites. AA will allow some of us Whites - to get in. It's Birth rate! If USA passed (unconstitutional) a Law - all White couples are to have 3-5 kids, it would take 70 yrs to catch up. Be careful what you wish for, when most of Public & Private Universities in USA are already paid for just by 15% of the Taxes & endowments from Minorities.

[@marieljoed]

I didn't know kids were overcoming slavery in north Carolina in 2022?

[@901pics]

Asian students have to work far harder to complete with students that don't have to make the same sacrifices...that is not fair in any way...we cannot continue to reward students who do not work hard.

[@chrisbelcher5320]

I don’t think that’s true, the Asian people have different values compared to other cultures. There schools system is very well oriented. They have teachers who truly care about making students the best they am be, there families put school in front of everything. There don’t have the ability to run around like kids do today, they are very focused on there future . There’s a reason you don’t see them in public schools. Kids now will never know how America became what it is today, and the wars fought to make America strong, and independent.

[@jecheesecake]

I had two sons who applied to UNC in 2019. Twin boys, both white. They were both in the top 10 of their high school class. Both were denied admission to UNC. They had a classmate, who is black and a female, who was in the top 30 of the same high school class. She was admitted and given a large scholarship. Both families live in the same town, went to the same school, and have similar middle class financial positions. Maybe this is just coincidental, or maybe this is empirical evidence for the case against UNC.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

My gf in high school was black, I'm white. She wasn't dumb but she was lazy, a solid C student with no extracurriculars. I was A and B, all honors, multiple clubs, varsity track. Her test scores were mediocre and mine were top five percent. She got into every school she applied to, including ones she was comically unqualified for. I got denied to every California state college she got into. It's all a scam meant to screw over good white folk out of a misguided desire for revenge.

[@vgil1278]

@Dick Cheese -12 WHAT?

[@jstriker623]

That's straight up racism against your boys. I'd file a civil rights lawsuit.

[@jstriker623]

Btw... a white male Novant Health executive was laid off/fired to make room for 2 black females. He sued and won.

[@realamerican8069]

@@jstriker623 site your sources..

[@keithchau8587]

Are the justices hearing a case or arguing on behalf of the universities? LOL

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

The diversity hires know they never would have ended up as a Justice without getting special treatment for their brown skin and/or hole between their legs.

[@aratosm]

The liberal ones are arguing for affirmative action because 2 of them needed it.

[@StevenKR]

The way Supreme Court trails work is the justices argue with the lawyers while the lawyer makes their case. They do this with the plaintiff side then the defense side. Afterwords they discuss it privately then vote.

[@AntiMasonic93]

Instead of the plaintiff and defendant, it is more like the petitioner and respondent. The Supreme Court will take on a case that has standing. Once the case is heard, the court will determine if there was a constitutional violation on the state actor's part.

[@Shehatescash]

@@aratosmWhy couldn’t those 2 just be qualified for their job

[@MrMikellsof88]

I'd completely forgotten about the recent farce that was a supreme court appointment until I heard Ketanji's voice questioning the lawyer.

[@cattycorner8]

I don't know if we will ever recover from the Biden administration.

[@gizzyguzzi]

Affirmative Action placement in SCOTUS.

[@kevin.afton_]

The lawyer says race doesnt matter but Harvard wants diversity. So race matters after all.

[@krystalccameron7689]

"Historically kicked in the teeth by this country" "put the thumb on the scale for white men" 😳 Alot of personal feelings coming through here...

[@andielliott7721]

"A Lot" is two words....just so you know.

[@krystalccameron7689]

@@andielliott7721 thanks teach 😽

[@canadiankrispybacon]

Agreed, moreover they’re even making assisting as council for UNC helping him make his arguments…SJC need to look and consider both sides of the arguments…imho they shouldn’t be stepping off the panel and pulling up a chair next to council

[@krystalccameron7689]

@@canadiankrispybacon Same here, but clearly their minds were made up before this hearing.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

It's amazing that these people can publicly announce their racism without consequence.

[@goosecouple]

Affirmative Action hires 1. Kamala Harris 2. Karine Jean Pierre 3. Ketanji Jackson

[@sac6728]

Stop your damn lying

[@sac6728]

Black female are the most educated in the United States period.

[@smartmoveme]

Another kraka speaks again!

[@cozmik_kay]

This guy is arguing against what got them into office… 😂 😂

[@joytyler3325]

Let's not forget Dr. Levine lol

[@mklite]

UNC lawyer: Race is not a significant factor in admissions. Also, being able to decide admission based on race is very important.

[@tammymargriter9085]

It's racist to have a box at all.

[@andielliott7721]

WHY?

[@mklite]

Why is affirmative action important to them? It's their way of offsetting and protecting their legacy admissions system for kids of white elites who would otherwise not qualify.

[@wmn682]

If it is not a significant factor, why is it being discussed? I would venture to say it is pretty significant to the person who is denied admission because they don't have the right skin color. Isn't the reason for affirmative action to begin with? It's wrong that it ever happened to anyone, it's even more wrong to attempt to right a wrong with revenge against those who look similar and justify it by some confused sense of morality. There are far more white people who despise racism than there are who condone it. What's the difference between a using skin color vs boob size? Also, how is race used against someone if it is unknown? Shouldn't a merit based system base admissions on merit? I personally think all of the subjective criteria for admissions should be eliminated. With objective criteria being established and accessible to all students it would be fair to all regardless of their race. I don't think anyone needs a head start or a thumb on the scale. I also think when discrimination occurs there should be consequences severe enough to deter it from happening.

[@Flumazenil]

@@andielliott7721 because it’s racist to deny a more qualified applicant because of race.

[@krystalccameron7689]

I'd love the see the grades and drop out rates after admission and see how many of those who're struggling got 'extra points for diversity' in the admissions process. If Thomas Sowell is to be believed, these diversity actions force children into academic environments where they can't keep up, and essentially make failures out of students who would've performed fine or great at a less challenging University that their actual grades actually qualify them for. And yes, it's hard to have faith in someone's abilities when you know they're an affirmative action recruit. I'm literally waiting to count the amount of times Jackson uses the word 'constitution', she'd better be exceptional, or I'll assume she doesn't belong there....just like Harris doesn't belong in the VP seat.

[@ginnymurray1869]

Great comment Krystal. I absolutely believe Thomas Sowell. He is a brilliant man with scruples.

[@andrewareva4605]

I disagree in that we would see anything. After doing a degree from an Ivy, I know that for many programs it's harder to get into the school than to survive or do well in them. An Ivy isn't inherently that much tougher than another decent private or public and difficulty is more dependent on the professor who can make challenging courses either challenging or impossible. And this is for tough STEM majors. For nonSTEM, it's even easier to survive. At the end of the day, this is about fairness and whether hard work in HS should pay off and whether hard work in undergrad should pay off in grad/professional schools.

[@krystalccameron7689]

@@andrewareva4605 I'm with you. That was one of several thoughts I had on this hearing.

[@johnsmith-ve3hs]

. The ironing is is that Clarence Thomas was picked by HW Bush bc he was black! 😂He was very inexperienced compared to other justice nominated in modern SCOTUS history. Donald trump got into Wharton cuz his dad paid him a. Spot, you upset about that?

[@krystalccameron7689]

@@johnsmith-ve3hs I say it's gone on long enough, and now's a great time to put an end to it. I'm nothing is not consistent.

[@upsidedown01]

Jackson is an activist on the bench. She's ridiculous

[@chiunderwood9534]

She is so far below in law compare to other justices, it's quite embarrassing. She was selected based on her color and gender. You can clearly see how incompetent she is in her questioning.

[@mikesanders189]

Kinda like she got there using affirmative action...

[@lawpreneuergower]

She can't define woman!

[@mwang688]

@@mikesanders189 Exactly! Democrats just want a rubber stamps not a deep thinker.

[@woodwyrm]

She's the diversity hire after all.

[@cameronsinnett8117]

Damn! Give this lawyer a pay raise, listening to him roast the liberal justices had me cracking up hahaha Justice Jackson is a freaking joke and Soto too

[@sac6728]

You must be white what do you do in your pitiful life

[@harry8201]

Give me the time stamp plz thanks

[@cameronsinnett8117]

@@sac6728 how dare you racially profile me, what do I do? I’m a free man, a creditor, and I serve the people of my community and live a life rooted in values, but I’ll pose the same question to you? what do you do? Have your daily activities and where you’ll be each day already pre-determined for you before you wake each day? Wake up and have to work each day because you’re a debtor most likely living a life where you push your delusions on others? Gotta pay that “mortgage”…or have you not even reached that point in life yet and still pay your slave masters each month for the roof over your head? A roof most likely placed there by better men, better men just like me 🙂

[@lorrainetrent2752]

Cameron , you appear to make it a political issue. Sad that you separated 2 judges specifically two judges of color. To see them as a joke, your racism is loud and clear.

[@cameronsinnett8117]

@@lorrainetrent2752 ah alas, it’s unfortunate if you took my words as “loudly and clearly” proclaiming my “racism”, fear not though misguided peasant, I shall provide you insight into the realty as I see it, AND YOU, sir or ma’am, appear to be the individual who has ACTUALLY taken race into account in this dialogue, in my opinion you’ve provided this public square with an excellent educational opportunity vis-à-vis your own taking into account of race. See my poor peasant…now the world can learn why video recordings of the U.S. Supreme Court are not made available to the public, because the uneducated peasants will resort to seeing things through their len’s that are lacquered with prejudice and apparently unable to read and comprehend. Keep the courts video recordings closed to the public!! HEar HeaR!!

[@royrodriguez1978]

Seems like the more they talk about race not merit they're being racist.

[@michaeltuggle3177]

I could tear them all up. Data. Admission rates over all based on race. Admission rates based on population percentage. Admissions based on academic aptitude, ability to read, write, and reason at a standardized competitive level expectation. If the applicant coming from an under funded poor school with poor instruction is not the problem of the university and should be dealt with at a different level, all this demonstrates is that the student will not likely be at a level of competitive readiness and problems that will pose upon the university and its overall competitiveness on the collegiate platform. I have worked with so many blacks who had college educations that could not read, write, or spell correctly. One spelled phonetically, graduated suma cum laude from Georgia Tech. He was admitted, promoted, and graduated at honors via his race, it was obvious working with him. To add insult to this injury, he was hired in fresh out of college in a leadership position and was unable to do his work and relied heavily on his peers and subordinates to get his work done, he couldn’t even write a simple technical report. I was also demoted by another college educated black man. He couldn’t do the job. I was told to do the job he was brought in to replace me over. I quit, and the company went belly up. It even made the news. This is all nonsense, i have travelled the world for work and people globally view this all as a joke. There is a reason why asians are super competitive in college admissions, they work hard. And to punish them, or another group due to blacks lack of academic performance is insulting, disheartening, creates animosity, and unfair. As I hear some of these pushbacks, it disgusts me that certain people are using historical situations to justify race based admissions, obviously benefiting blacks. Drop the crutch, work hard, earn what you want to achieve, stop the racism, stop punishing us all as we had nothing to do with history. I was the smartest kid in my underfunded poor school district per the testing and I ranked nationally as number 2 in science back in the 80s. The kids in the gifted classes where gay, hispanic, asian, black, and women. My school’s ratings were raised due to me. Yet, the school paid no attention to me, with the exception of a caring science teacher one year. Take a guess my race and sex. I will say this, I became the cheif technical expert for my field in one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. Unlike these idiots looking for crutches to excuse them from buckling down and earning what they have, I plowed thru everything I faced. No scholarships, no preferential treatment, just aptitude, talent, hard work, dedication, and perseverance. No harvard, no stanford, just a public university education once I graduated from a crappy poor school disrrict that made it obvious as to why I was neglected. I climbed the corporate ladder to be over most of the 30,000 people working there along with all their plants globally. I made it happen without this nonsense. I am jewish too, by the way.

[@JamesBrown-lq2im]

So how do you all justify a President Donald Trump and President George Bush ( ..."D" students...)...America has had many incompetent leaders...Even Franklin D. Roosevelt...graduated from Yale and was a "C" average student...America's failure is all about incompetent leaders ..who graduated from Ivy League Schools...Thiese whole court cases is about Racist America.

[@andielliott7721]

I have worked with black teachers that could not speak standard English much less conduct a coherent lesson BUT the district needed to fill a "quota" and so students suffer.

[@ninaduong9310]

This's the reason why the US is slowly falling behind China, and owing debts to China, if they allow prestigious universities admission based on race instead solely on merits.

[@johnzaleski5182]

Yep. Very interesting story, and tragic, too. I continuously remind myself of what MLK, Jr. said about the content of character versus color of skin. We as a society have devolved culturally from the 1960s/1970s and are truly embodiments of the old chestnut “those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” The seemingly constant focus on race and, now, sanctioned racism not only through what this video describes but also by those in the “minority” requesting and advocating for segregation (e.g., “no-white zones” in some schools) is a tragic backlash to the pre-civil rights era of Jim Crow, but now in reverse. It seems history is lost on the youth and powerful today. Many physical and legal battles were fought over the last 150 years attempting to end and correct for this racism. Seems that now it is all in vain. I pine for the best ideals that were originally espoused as freedom in this country. Seems rather clear that the U.S.A. is gone.

[@chryslerfordgm]

DEI applies to Hispanics & Blacks only, try using that for Asians, Arabs, Persians, whatever other race.

[@michaelrandall7667]

How do people defend Sotomayor? Her arguments rarely have to do with the constitution. It's always the end result regardless of it being constitutional or not.

[@sac6728]

Nobody gives a damn about the constitution no more just got to be WHITE

[@michaelrandall7667]

@@sac6728 got to be white? Are you unaware of what thus case is about?

[@SchrodingersPussyCat]

Read all Decisions on all topics! Sotomayor is the most intellectual of the 9! Given our Birth Rate in due time = 2-3 decades, there will never again be a white President, and competition for White Americans will face others w/ 90% at Harvard, Yale, Berkeley, Princeton, Columbia, or 2nd tier Campuses like UCLA & USC full of non-whites. AA will allow some of us Whites - to get in. It's Birth rate! If USA passed (unconstitutional) a Law - all White couples are to have 3-5 kids, it would take 70 yrs to catch up. Be careful what you wish for, when most of Public & Private Universities in USA are already paid for just by 15% of the Taxes & endowments from Minorities.

[@michaelrandall7667]

@@SchrodingersPussyCat literally none of that is true. It's so insane it's not even worth specifically refuting.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

They defend her because she's a brown woman and that's all they care about. Why do you think they support Affirmative Action to begin with?

[@carolr.556]

You cannot legislate equity.. Forcing issues like this creates another type of discrimination!

[@davidanderson2519]

Is left-handedness considered in admissions.

[@johnswanson5757]

Affirmative action prevented son from entering Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, California. Assian and White male applicants were excluded from admissions. Non-white and non-assians applicant were given an additional grade point. Non-male applicant were given an additional grade point. The cutoff GPA was 4.01. Son applied to admissions to West Point through Vice President and Representative. Son applied to admissions to US Coast Guard Academy. Son never attended four year college. Son has left this country.

[@sierranevadatrail]

If I have to have open heart surgery, I am concerned about the competency of the surgeon, not whether the medical school he or she attended included questions about things like "friendliness" on the student's application, questions which should have no bearing in an intellectual setting and which the liberals want to have included so that they can gerrymander in their version of social engineering.

[@realamerican8069]

You better be concerned about 3rd world immigrants doing surgery..😂

[@johnd7304]

The only criteria that should be looked at is whether the student is the best applicant regardless of their skin color, religion, economic status. I would think we want the best. For example how much racial diversity do you see in the NBA??? There are very few Asians in it. What about the running backs and receivers in the NFL??? How about the......you name it. We want the best for leadership positions, I could care less what color they are. I thought we were supposed to be color-blind???

[@georgiaguardian4696]

Exactly! We need the best in each field regardless which races are the best at the field!

[@garyzimmer8061]

We should be color-blind; the superficial sentiment of the left keeps us divided by counter-intuitive machination.

[@Fraet]

Economic status can be such a weight for or against a student that it should be a factor. For example, if a student scores 1398 yet came from a depressed neighborhood with low opportunities comes up against a 1399 student who came from a wealthy neighborhood, consideration should be given to the student who achieved much with less.

[@lucilleli9529]

@@Fraet so consider socioeconomic status and not race.

[@geraldsallier9326]

Wait until y'all find out administrators forcibly lower the grades of certain students. Ending AA is a start, not a goal.

[@tommywol1102]

Can't we stop this whole circle the law for loop holes logic and just say if you have the grades to succeed in college and the money to pay for it that is enough.

[@vgil1278]

Because that would be unfair to brilliant but poor students who would be an asset to our country if they could find a way, thru grants, etc. Loop holes I agree should be tightened up.

[@tommywol1102]

@@vgil1278 grants and scholarships are not the issue I am talking about, it's general admissions based on merit over social status and the classes being paid for.

[@jesseking8504]

After listening to this and other recordings, I'm convinced that the writers of The Three stooges episodes were Time travelers

[@part1801]

Affirmative action only weakens society and lowers the recipients of affirmative actions lives standards and dignity. Who would want any professional working for them that had to achieve their goals through affirmative action, especially a doctor or someone that could harm someone if they're incompetent.

[@andielliott7721]

When I was in grad school in New Mexico there were signs posted saying...If you are a minority and don't have the grades, we will help you get into medical school.

[@freedomandintellectualthou7615]

Even if someone was admitted into medical school as a result of AA, wouldn’t their successful graduation at least indicate adequate competence?

[@johnheigis83]

"A well regulated [comprehensive contingencies-management system / "mustering" from a device, for neighborhood incident management capabilities] being necessary to the [democracy / "civil defense]..."

[@cozmik_kay]

Personally I would have argued that against affirmative action by saying it sets a low expectation for minorities…😂😂

[@annoyboyPictures]

*** it sets a low expectation for minorities… *** It certainly does... and the unintended Consequence is that it lumps QUALIFIED Minorities - i.e. Minorities that actually can get the grades and get in on Merit with all those who are Sub-Standard... So most people look at a Black Harvard Grad, they would instinctually assume that these people are less capable, - whether they actually are on not.

[@carolyntracytalbott5865]

If you really want to get rid of racism you have to get rid of the loop holes! Admitting anyone on the basis of race is racism point blank!

[@smartmoveme]

Let's start somewhere else in the process ... How about equal justice under the law!!

[@chad_bro_chill]

@@smartmoveme Sure, let's start with forbidding universities (receiving federal money) from using race as an admission factor, given how obviously unconstitutional that is in light of Brown v Board et al.

[@MrHandyman1954]

Affirmative Action is nothing more than reverse discrimination. This Hispanic here wants nothing to do with it. If you care for me to compete for college, IMPROVE my K-12 education. Fire the damn incompetent teachers and compel parents to support that effort or else.

[@SchrodingersPussyCat]

Given our Birth Rate in due time = 2-3 decades, there will never again be a white President, and competition for White Americans will face others w/ 90% at Harvard, Yale, Berkeley, Princeton, Columbia, or 2nd tier Campuses like UCLA & USC full of non-whites. AA will allow some of us Whites - to get in. It's Birth rate! If USA passed (unconstitutional) a Law - all White couples are to have 3-5 kids, it would take 70 yrs to catch up. Be careful what you wish for, when most of Public & Private Universities in USA are already paid for just by 15% of the Taxes & endowments from Minorities.

[@illufe]

It's difficult for the public schools to fire incompetent teachers because of unions and politicians (strike / votes).

[@wmn682]

Assign each applicant a number so they don't have to use their name, that way race can be fairly left out of the equation. Whenever race is allowed as criteria for admissions, people will be excluded because of it, period! If the box is checked and the person doing the evaluation is racist it could be an issue. What does a white person do when they experience discrimination based on their skin color? Has everyone forgotten that more than half of the white people in the country won a war to end slavery? Not every white person is responsible for the actions of a few. Will hair style be used as criteria? What about big boobs? Physical attributes have no place on an admissions application!

[@diannedocherty3816]

Why can’t the smartest most capable people be educated in a field they aspire? Higher education should be based on merit. Nothing else. You don’t need a degree in selling retail phones or selling coffee or working at Walmart…just saying too many teenagers are unsuccessful and there is far too much pressure to go to college or university…full stop. This creates so many disillusioned young people, more men then women.

[@smartmoveme]

Because historically white admission officials admit white students even when students of color are more qualified and or have better grades etc!!!

[@Will_0001]

Because higher education is full of Cultural Marxists that want "racial equity."

[@annoyboyPictures]

@@smartmoveme Historically... but NOT NOW... so you're arguing from a Hypothetical that no longer exists? Wow... Please tell me you're not in the Legal Field, or anything that requires Logic, Reason or Facts.

[@annoyboyPictures]

*** Why can’t the smartest most capable people be educated in a field they aspire? *** Because then Blacks would be an Insignificant Minority in Universities, and they will blame RACISM for their lack of ability to study hard and get the grades.

[@smartmoveme]

@@annoyboyPictures please tell me ur not that naive.. the point is the affirmative action that is currently in place is a guard rail to safeguard against this type of discrimination... If removed then people will revert back to their PAST behavior.... Where it has been already removed statistics show that the behavior of selective discrimination reverted right back to and in some cases was worse than before!!!

[@ginnymurray1869]

Good. We have had enough of this. No one ever explained why there are black collages but white colleges are taboo.

[@sac6728]

Because of discrimination we had to create our own. That question alone says a lot about you

[@ginnymurray1869]

@@sac6728 Not asking why they exist. The question is why has it not been mandated that they have quotas like other collages. Don't pull the race card on me for asking. It is a fair question.

[@annoyboyPictures]

@@sac6728 If a College is 100% Private it can be Mono-racial as far as I am concerned... I think in America you have the Freedom to do that...however, if its getting Public Funding then no... it can;'t be an All White or All Black College. Go start your own Racially Pure university on your own dime. We as Tax payers should not have to fund All Black Racist Colleges. And on a side note... even if you can send your kid to an All Black University, you are doing them no favors in life... You are actually handicapping them because they will not have the experience of the real world which is not mono Racial in any way.

[@andielliott7721]

@@sac6728 You created "your own" with extremely low criteria and standards which is why corporations warned "your" universities they had to "tighten ship" or they wouldn't be hiring "your" grads.

[@andielliott7721]

@Francisco Dy Bingo

[@cattycorner8]

Thank you Forbes. We should have elected Steve Forbes our President when we had the chance.

[@Syntaxband]

The university uses a computer program/algorithm to determine who is admitted based on their applications, can the court please see and review the source code of that computer program?

[@krispoli22]

I call b.s. on some computer program on admission. Explain this athletic recruiting.

[@andielliott7721]

Dreaming.....

[@RTM950]

The conservative justices highlighted just how much fluff is imbued in the argument for affirmative action. There are so many buzzwords like "diversity" that are often repeated, yet seldom defined.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

It's not defined because "diversity" is just a code for anti-white.

[@RTM950]

@@nigeltheoutlaw True.

[@JereKrischel]

I wonder if Jackson believes that Elon Musk is an african-american.

[@sac6728]

Hell no

[@JereKrischel]

@@sac6728 Sounds racist, don't you think?

[@watershed8685]

Justice Jackson is awfully passionate and defensive of affirmative action. Not surprising but still disheartening, especially as an Asian, that the most powerful, in a legal sense, body of the land can be so ideologically driven and contrarian to the actual text and spirit of the law

[@realamerican8069]

If you don’t like it.. guess what?

[@chad_bro_chill]

​@@realamerican8069 You'd be more convincing if you added more emojis or soccer mom references. It's just not believable for a username like that with flag and all to be a supporter of the current politicization of the Supreme Court.

[@realamerican8069]

@@chad_bro_chill lol in order to make a statement I have to do it your way?! What a joke! You people are a bunch of go with crowd types. I’m an American I think for myself with the thought of my fellow Real Americans ..

[@jll5568]

I learned more about diverse culture in 3 weeks by visiting Europe for 3 weeks vs. 4 years of US university,

[@MrMetz79]

When someone is disqualified because of the color of their skin. That is discrimination and systematic racism with institutional racism.

[@stevenjackson9301]

Cool video, i'm in a court case for what i know nothing about, and i'll bag 20 years if i don't win this case, i'v spend so much already on the case and i don't see myself winning it. i have no evidence to prove i'm innocent, this is my 4th lawyer on this case, but it seem there's nothing they can do, i don't know why i'm bring this here, i'm just depressed and i don't know what to do.

[@stevenjackson9301]

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[@stevenjackson9301]

@Leonardo Richardson I just found her web-site, and i'm impressed. Thank you so much, i dropped a message, i hope she replies.

[@larrypetrosky3180]

Next time tell them YOUR a Democrat and friends with Hunter Biden ..

[@andielliott7721]

I was in court for ten years because of a "trespassing" issue in which the complainant FINALLY admitted that I didn't trespass and I was acquitted. I would no "cop a plea".

[@lomaxdesigns1716]

15 minutes in. The line of questioning is absurd! Government discrimination based on race is clearly wrong & should not be tollerated. End of story. This is basic.

[@LaurieSullivanRoy]

Good - it’s racism

[@WhatsUpLand]

23:30 - After the argument that considering race is unconstitutional, Ketangi exclaims "but it has to be used!" I burst out laughing. The Supreme Court, in my opinion, lost credibility as a whole at that moment. She was installed using the principal of affirmative action and is an example of why doing so is a bad idea. We should use competence and qualifications as criteria. Ketangi is on the bench assisting activists, not adjudicating law.

[@realamerican8069]

Immigrants are using AA!

[@jaybakes822]

Killing me with the ads every 2 minutes

[@Flumazenil]

Ending racism in college admissions. It’s about time.

[@StevenKR]

29:00 Democrat Justice: "Putting aside the fact you just stumped me hard, I guess what I'm getting at is that is I will never change my mind and I'm voting no on your case."

[@georgehugh3455]

It's always good to get Sotomayor's _expert_ opinion on the statistical analysis of *"stimulations"...*

[@georgehugh3455]

It's fun at the SCOTUS level - Almost every issue is legally contentious, _so the actual law doesn't really matter, just the opinions each Justice entered the room with._

[@leosullivan9228]

that's why the Party system is so careful selecting their corporate potatoes. The real Party party starts when they get to Moore v Harper. Eventually we'll see Citizens United get fully unleashed

[@IWantFacts]

Everybody should be judged only by their Ability. Period.

[@johnheigis83]

Note: "hostage population"... Versus..."active and passive civil defense are integral to national security [democratic] posture." To mechanize and empower pure/direct demos-kratia within a republic.

[@dustjunky2000]

The judges arguing that if racial selection was done away with that black acceptance would plummet don't realize what they're saying. 🤣🤣

[@andielliott7721]

Tell me, what good does it to accept "blacks" and have them flunk out (as I have seen them do) because they are not adequately prepared???

[@paulajanson8053]

There’s a lot of stuttering going on with the UNC Attny

[@slugtothechest]

He sounded like a diversity hire😂😂

[@andielliott7721]

@@slugtothechest Ha ha...but in all fairness, he is up with with brilliant legal minds all asking questions and he has to quick "on his feet". I wouldn't want to be in his place.

[@phdtesla8325]

Many Asian children don’t come from high SES.

[@andielliott7721]

NO, but having taught many of them, they are dedicated students.

[@kegaket6772]

From what I understand, NY state has a good program. Just about any NY state resident can get into one of the many community college and take classes that are the same as those offered at Cornell. If they do well at a local (live at home), less expensive community college, they can eventually apply to Cornell. If accepted, they graduate with an Ivy League degree, with nothing indicating that a portion of their learning was at a community college. This allows disadvantaged students the ability to ease into the pressure of a more competitive environment and graduate without an insurmountable mountain of debt. Maybe Massachusetts and North Carolina could try something like this. A more gradual transition from high school programs of different quality to a more competitive college program.

[@marciaaraneta5670]

Seeing the writing on the wall, I celebrate and glorify the kind of JUSTICE enshrined in the heart of God...all races are equal.

[@Beauty-collection1218]

Please end the affirmative act🎉

[@adamshaw9411]

Systemic Racism

[@andielliott7721]

...catchy phrase. I've heard that somewhere before.

[@SCCCC1]

Alito gave a back hand to senator Warren at 1:27

[@yingkenney3507]

Merit-based college admission and job recruiting. No AA! Don’t understand how low SAT/ACT could success in higher education unless colleges lower down their education quality. Then why pay high college tuition?

[@andielliott7721]

As a former college instructor, it doesn't. My minority students (except for Asians) usually failed or dropped out.

[@jstriker623]

This inclusion push has gotten out of control. I don't want to see a doctor who is less qualified only because the better qualified person wasn't the school's preferred skin color.

[@realamerican8069]

You guys act as if blacks are taking the medical jobs! It’s the foreigners who are using affirmative action! Those are your doctors lol

[@verilucis]

A Supreme Court Justice says, "Forget the logic...". Wow! Cray cray...

[@part1801]

These activist judges don't ask questions they lead the debate in the direction that they want.

[@nicklikethesoup]

First, they are justices. Their role is very different from a judge. Their role is to administer justice by interpreting law. They don't adjudicate. Second, that's not activism you are hearing, that's dialogue. They are asking questions and directing conversation to poke holes in argument so they can make a decision. This is part of the whole process of understanding an argument to interpret a law. It's called advocacy for a reason. The attorneys are meant to advocate for their positions and the Supreme Court justices are supposed to push and prod so they can interpret as the Constitution dictates. These hearings work very differently than a traditional trial hearing. The justices come into these hearings having read the briefs prepared by both sides and intend to push the arguments where they consider weaknesses. You have to direct the conversation in the short period of time that someone can speak in order to accomplish your goal.

[@part1801]

@@nicklikethesoup no, the other judges don't lead like Sotomayor and Jackson and wear their emotions on their sleeve.

[@canadiankrispybacon]

@@nicklikethesoup direct the conversation, IF, you’re allowed. It’s one thing to ask the question, quite another to allow council to answer 🤔. I’ve heard a few of these…I don’t recall such a one sided frenzy of “advocacy” to a out where the SCJ’s are speaking over each other…never mind the tone of the Justices throughout. At one point one of the Justices said you haven’t made the argument..they interpreted him within the first few minutes of his oral..he want even given a fair opportunity to speak..hounding him for “one” example…taunting him by saying..you can’t even show me one example…he gives an example…only for the SCJ to scoff that he only had one example…you can see how some may view some of the SCJ’s as….activists! This sounded more like a Democrats congressional hearing, Maxine Waters screaming Reclaiming My Time! 😂 IMHO..whoever council was making the argument…whatever he was getting paid, they should double it!

[@canadiankrispybacon]

@@part1801 wearing in their sleeves..an understatement…their tone…you could hear significant emotion which imho is inappropriate for their position and responsibility…I get asking questions..even throwing around hypotheticals …but they sounding like they were arguing their first defence case in front of a biased court….

[@StevenKR]

A common theme from the Democrat judges is they just talk like lawyers, leading in yes or no questions while telling the story they want, and if the lawyer begins to answer more they cut them off.

[@canisdeumnox4925]

Discussing in details about boxes and essays on race.. when grade score miniums are adjusted based on race is discrimination. Then saying oh no we don't do that. We look at other factors- like personality- which again Asians are ranked lower (yet Harvard says it's based on statistics and many hands review..). Stop this s h i t. Ya all don't want to deal the reasons for the test differences - it's called family planning. Adjusting at the college age level to account for bad parents just to say you diverse DOES NOTHING FOR NO BODY. Stop it.

[@TrishCanyon8]

Affirmative action needs to end.

[@rondevree8207]

Finally thank you.........

[@gregtufaro8166]

Really? Ads every 4 minuets? Way to get me to stop listen

[@criticality2056]

The race is part of the culture and the culture is part of the race: Sotomayor. Is it me or is this an absurd statement?

[@cozmik_kay]

It’s weird to see that Supreme Court judges arguing for racism…😂😂

[@TheADDFiles-yk4dc]

It’s definitely a race-centric statement, uncomfortably close to a racist statement.

[@J-Anon-]

Sotomayor is incredibly, blatantly racist. The "wise Latina".

[@thehistoryexpert82]

Sotomayor is a judicial light weight. When tries to make a point it always backfires

[@ChadHowarth]

Talking in circles for 45 minutes. A race based check box is not a valid indicator of diversity, and the value of racial diversity to education is questionable at best.

[@annoyboyPictures]

And now you don't even have to be Biologically Black... or whatever... you can be a Black, or a Latino or even an Injun if you just will it in your mind! Just identify as a Black or whatever... and you can get in based on that!

[@nyc354]

Why is it every time a conservative Justice is about to make a important point, you tube plays a commercial. I never got a commercial when a liberal Justice was speaking weird 🧐🤨🧐🤪🧐🤨

[@MrMikellsof88]

I was experiencing the same until I thumbs-upped your comment then I got a stupid ad for a mobile game while KBJ was speaking as if to prove me wrong. xD

[@nyc354]

@@MrMikellsof88 it’s the algorithm, to offset it thumb up a left looney video. For every conservative thumb you need a liberal thumb to offset the algorithm 😎

[@hippohopper100]

Yes and we're speaking weird quite frequently.

[@danielhatch9742]

Pay the 16$.

[@MrMikellsof88]

@@danielhatch9742 lol nope. And blocker ftw

[@33superstar]

I'm a property manager and we have a set criteria to get approved. Your credit, Rental history & income. We don't "Change or reconsider our Criteria standards because someone chooses to share their race or cultural history with us. Can you imagine, we'd Lose our licenses!! Our criteria is applied to every person equally and that is overseen by Fair Housing laws therefore ensuring fairness to everyone equally! Our Rental criteria stops at our CRITERIA, PERIOD! The rental industry has operated this way for decades successfully without issue! How is it that our nations SUPREME COURT can't maintain such basic Human Standards of Rationalle????

[@waynezw]

Discrimination against any race in the name of diversity is wrong!

[@johnphariss2583]

Will they ever let him finish his answers. They keep cutting him off.

[@555Trout]

Soto...is intolerable.

[@dhui777]

Some of the liberal judges appear to have problem understanding what a zero sum game is.

[@Gunni1972]

A school, wether Private or federal, shouldn't even ask for gender OR race Quotas. If the scholar has the right age, and/or qualification.

[@danmoen755]

Excellent

[@heathermilford9667]

Correlation is not causation, therefore, stop trying to fix the issue at the college level based on skin color. Address the root issues so EVERY child has the opportunity to be successful based on merit. Fix the inequalities in K-12 schools and pay teachers more!

[@michaelkendall662]

seems to be more of a cultural problem than a racial problem and the Dimm/commies have DESTROYED the Black culture with their "helping hand"

[@shanelittle1025]

Yes! Level the playing field early and don’t publish hardworking Asian kids.

[@andielliott7721]

I am a teacher (high school/college). Teachers work 9 months a year; get every holiday known to man and wonderful benefits. I was always pleased with my "pay". More money, as has already been documented, will not churn out higher achieving students. Parental support is needed...THAT makes all the difference.

[@michaelkendall662]

@@andielliott7721 not just parents need to be involved but need teachers that care about the quality of their teaching and the work the students are doing.......some of it is built into the system but a lot of it is apathetic teachers just in it for the short work year and paycheck

[@masterpooshi6031]

Angry black women.

[@JTPyrus]

always is

[@paulajanson8053]

He just referred to Pocahontas ! 😅

[@JereKrischel]

Each human is unique. Every group of humans is diverse - unless you're talking about literal clones.

[@sac6728]

Wrong. We're you all slaves and still going through crap today if not take a black history class

[@JereKrischel]

@@sac6728 Every human on the planet has ancestors who were slaves, and ancestors who were masters. Every group of humans is diverse, unless they're literally genetic clones. I'm not the same as my brother, and you're not the same as your father.

[@johnmaurer3097]

@@sac6728 that sounds like a tremendous waste of time with zero benefit. You didn’t pay money for that, did you?

[@jamessouza7065]

@ SAC you know Jews were slaves for over a thousand years and I can honestly & truthfully say NEVER ONCE (ZERO) HAVE I EVER HEARD ONE CRYING ABOUT IT! and as far as taking a class about "black history" I'm gonna pass thank you...I'd rather pick up ciggerette butts at goodwill parking-lothe while carrying a 100lb rock-sack on my back..or even ram a hot curling iron up my own ass for that matter!

[@bobbyshaftoe]

There is ONE group: Humans.

[@IWantFacts]

Being an American doesn't mean race is forced upon our colleges. America Offers Opportunity NOT Outcome.

[@johnswanson5757]

An essay to support your desire to become an engineer that shows what you have acomplished towards your goal. Won science fair in Santa Clara Valley for four consequitive year while attending high school. Received several patents while attending high school. Attended college math courses while attending high school. Attended honors courses while attending high school. Attended math contests at Stanford University while attending high school. Anything but race.

[@hondosmith3172]

What if race quotas were imposed on the NBA?

[@larriecole3222]

the flaw with only looking at admission vs actual real results or graduation numbers and the effects of using racism vs merit only based systems.

[@StevenKR]

1:39:00 My question would be, "Does the form mention that race will be considered as an influencer on the interpretation of the applicant's submission?" The answer is no. People who want to attend a school will give all details possible because they don't want to be seen negatively. I would also like to know what is the acceptance rate of those who don't indicate their race?

[@StevenKR]

56:00 the lawyer gave a great answer there! That was a good question by the judge, but he was able to explain why she is wrong. Listening longer, I think he starts doing a good job representing the case.

[@JTPyrus]

why does that justice talk so slow, I think she had a stroke

[@LauraVolpintesta]

It’s wrong to put that in an application. I always leave my race off of forms and applications.

[@martinmcgowan1277]

Jackson so emotional

[@SimpleTruth1309]

No group wants equal treatment; they want special treatment to their advantage. Do we give Tiger Woods a three stoke handicap advantage over Hideki Matsuyama because Woods is Black. Everyone in the world is competing for limited resources; this applies to competition for educational resources. The ratio of black to white in the NBA is due to performance; do we want the courts to ‘equalize’ that ratio also?

[@austincummins7712]

I feel like some of the justices know how to actually pose critical questions and play devil's advocate (even if their bias would fall in support of the counselor they are questioning). In other words, they at least try to do their job and bring out the strongest argument from each side. However, some of the justices don't know how to separate their personal feelings or biases, and effectively just help argue on behalf of the lawyer's side for whom they agree. When questioning the side they disagree with, they pose straw-man arguments and then try their best to not let the counselor answer, and when they "question" the side they agree with they use the opportunity to add in their own arguments and bolster the counselor's position (by posing an argument in the form of a question, and asking the counselor if they agree). I literally cannot comprehend why a supreme court justice would act like this. For example, if a second amendment case were brought forth before the court, and I were a SC justice who was very anti-gun- I am still going to ask the anti-gun lawyer/side of the argument the hardest possible questions I can and basically put myself in the most pro-2A position I can to steel man the argument (and vice versa if I were a pro-2A justice). The reason you would do this, is because you want to force the strongest argument to be teased out from each side- even your "own" (though they shouldn't have a side, we all know that they do). Furthermore, and I hate to say it- but it seems like the justices who argue this way fall towards a particular side of the political spectrum.

[@WhatsUpLand]

That struck me as glaringly obvious. I agree

[@leosullivan9228]

another benefit of a one-Money/ two-grift Party system. Since we were lulled to sleep throughout the JFK murder-coup, our DeepState always has its say

[@luke12689]

Minority from Africa, AA affects me badly from education to employment etc.

[@canadiankrispybacon]

Stop interrupting him..they ask him a question, don’t allow him to fully answer, sounds more like a congressional hearing, rather than the SC. Let the University of NC make their arguments….I get asked questions for clarifications, but it appears they’re making argument 🤔

[@555Trout]

I skip past Jackson's babbling. I don't listen to people who can't define defi e men and women.

[@bobvilla4383]

Commercial about Burger King right in the middle of the diversity question…wtf? Now I can’t get the Whopper out of my mind.

[@rubiconoutdoors3492]

Literally, no one is slapping books out of anyones hands.

[@wmn682]

Shouldn't college admissions be a true representation of the country by reflecting the same percent of students as is seen throughout the country? If the population shows 50% white, 30% black, and 20% Latino for example in a particular state, the college populations should reflect this to have equal and fair representation. Education is what each student makes of it, deficiencies are not all the fault of the teachers or the schools

[@andielliott7721]

Do know that Hispanics are more represented than Blacks and there is much distrust between the two races. One is comes from with a good work ethic; the other, not so much.

[@wmn682]

@@andielliott7721 That might be true but One had it cultivated in them, forced upon them. I think the most important thing we can all do is try to be tolerant of our differences and somehow, at least for the moment, respect one another so we can stand together to make all of our lives better by defeating the tyrants that instigate arguments so they can bet on who will win the fight.

[@TugHillGuy]

A lot of people who rail against activist justices on the Supreme Court can't be bothered to actually listen to proceedings like these. The court is no where near as political as Congress, as should be the case. The law around policies like these are almost never as straightforward as the media and general public seem to believe. I think the burden is on UNC and their partners in this case to prove that race-conscious admissions are necessary; that holistic admissions as used in Michigan, California, etc, are not leading to fair and equitable outcomes. I don't think they've done that.

[@robkrieg8301]

Both sides are clearly beholden to their political ideology. Depending on the case you already know which way all but a couple of the judges are gonna vote. They are part of the toxic partisan monster dont kid yourself.

[@slugtothechest]

You know how rare it is to get audio from the Supreme Court? On your second point I just got done listing to Jackson and Sotomayor you can clearly hear their political bias.

[@lisajaenicke6203]

How about selecting first based only on goals, service, essays regarding experiences that support earnest discipleship (studiousness and curiosity), then from those attach names, genders and race and see what those numbers reveal?