The "Cheap" Sony Projector: Sony VPL-XW5000ES Native 4K Projector

[@NewStuffTV1]

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[@rambindustries954]

Try comparing Anker soundcore boost vs Anker soundcore 3 vs Oontz Angle 3 pro. All 3 seem to be in the same price and power range

[@ivanramirez1465]

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[@brucesmith1754]

Antoine, Glad I found your channel a few months ago. You have a knack for answering those questions that are circling around most of us hobbyists' heads. Amongst the reviews that I've checked out on the "lifestyle" format projcetors, including yours, there is a consensus that the Hisense C1 rates the best in Cinematic performance. But before this new format of projectors was released , I was already looking into what the compromises were in investing in 4K projectors using pixel shifting processor vs Native 4k chip technology. You're the first hobbyist whose acknowledged seeing a clear difference between these processing technologies. Thanks for confirming my concerns that there IS an actual viewing experience difference. Now you've created a new problem for my budgeting for a $6000 projector. Grrrrrr. But thanks anyway. My only further concern is that the current processing technology for Native 4K available in today's projectors is not future-proofed for upcoming Cinematic standards. The Sony projector you reviewed is fine for today's Cinematic standards , i.e they can project images processed within the DCI-P3 color gamut range for Professional Commercial Cinema . But the higher end lifestyle projectors (Hisense , JMGO , XGIMI) are currently conforming to the REC 2020 color gamut which will be the range for 8K sources. And they also process new cinema video technologies like Dolby Vision. Hopefully you are satisfied enough with the results you are getting from your Sony projector that this wont be a concerning issue for yourself. But I gotta speak my truth, It bugs the hell out of me, Resulting in my purchasing paralysis!! Thanks so much for your exploring these differences. But you causing problems for my wallet, buddy!!! Thanks again Brother A!!✊🏾✊🏾

[@ghdrstream]

The Phantom and Cystler 300 comparison seriously got me, lol. Excellent!

[@marvinabugov4579]

BTW: I take 20,000 hours of laser lamp life with a grain of salt. For example, Sony said for my 2017/18 - 285es that the bulb was rated to 6000 hours. Truth!: I just swapped it out at 2700 hours or over 6 years of use. Agreed, that is impressive and twice the lamp life of my previous Panasonic 2080 / 1080p projector. Don’t get me wrong: Sony makes excellent projectors but there are details like intermittent/excessive fan-noise that I hope Sony will fix in the next generation of its laser projectors. I’m waiting to see if that happens and if JVC decides to replace its budget bulb projector with a laser at Fall 2024 CEDIA. If so, I will have a hard decision to make if both of them make worthwhile improvements. Meanwhile, I continue to be patient!

[@Wodz30]

JVC already dropped the NZ30 laser.......but....HDMI 2.0 :\

[@issacschraeder]

Hello, I know you said you don’t own a blu ray player, but 4k blu rays have a really high bitrate that would be appreciated on a projector like this. I would recommended you find some video files on the level of 4k blu ray and play those on the projector. You’ll notice how clean the image is.

[@reinaweis]

That thing is huge. I love that it's manual adjustments. I have had a projector that would never get it right.

[@mxbishop]

Great review! I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts on this projector. And I really want this particular projector. However, in my case, it's too big. It will not fit into my custom projector box I designed/built for my Sony VPL-VW60 1080p projector. This box was designed with fans that automatically power-up when the projector is turned on. The fans pump cool filtered air into the box from the back - and the warmer air that is produced by the projector is vented out the front. It's a very elegant design that I'd really like to re-use for my next projector. The VPL-VW60 is no small projector either - but it looks like a toddler compared to the ginormous size of the VPL-XW5000ES. My projector box serves 4 important functions: It mounts the projector, it cools the projector, it reduces the running noise of the projector, and it keeps dust out of the projector. I really don't want to tear this box out - as it was a huge project to get it installed and tweaked just right. So a question for you - and maybe you could ask your Sony-man about this: Will Sony produce a 4K projector that has a smaller form-factor anytime soon? Thank you, and please carry on with your fine reviews!

[@dragonstone6594]

Very nicely explained. btw if you want to do this projector justice you have to get a really good sound system. I would suggest you get the Sony AZ5000ES with Klipch Reference Premier II speakers and subs. Or the Focal Theva speakers. You can later pair these with a separate multichannel speaker amplifier like from Rotel, to really bring out the power to the next level. Do some accoustic treatement here and there in your room and then you will trully have the cinema experience.

[@kcchiefsproductions8687]

Im not super active or anything, but I've been subscribed for years now, and this channel is so insanely underrated. You must be powering this channel with alot of your own funds or something because youve been so consistent for so long. You deserve to make a living off this.

[@gabeswiatkiewicz3725]

Have you figured out how to turn it on or off with Google home or Alexa?

[@obeahuk]

I paid $4800 last year for a Sony VPL 760es with only 750hrs on it. What a beast considering it was a preferred choice compared to PJ's costing twice the retail price @ $30,000

[@Sho0b]

congrats and welcome to the Sony family. I finally made my jump from full hd projector to this Sony 4K a few weeks ago and I'll never look back. I also considered the Sony amp, but settled for a Denon X2800 with Dali Oberon 5 Floorstanders at the front and Onwalls at the back. They are shooting the Olympics in native 4K this year so that's going to be incredible for sport. My next purchase will be a 4K Bluray player though as while I am the same as you with the streaming apps, I saw a demo of Oppenheimer and I felt like I was back seeing it at Imax again. I just can't get over the detail (and sound of course). Also tested out some House of Dragon, Breaking Bad and a few other 4K stables. Film, Live Sport, TV Shows it just handles everything so well.

[@percybedford6266]

I went the Epson LS12000 over this Sony because of the power lens shift and lens memory. The 5000es is a great projector.

[@donjaun540]

I'm so happy for you. 😁😎👍 I don't know if I'm going projector or 100" TV, but I am hoping for black Friday ish this year. Keep going. I have the stereo and let me tell you that is another level. When you hear an 18" woofer you'll know you are at the theater. 👍😎

[@BillMall]

Been eyeing this projector but was having a hard time justifying the price. Your explanation of the true 4k and how the ANSI ratings aren't all the same just sold me. Thanks!

[@NewStuffTV1]

Glad I could help, hopefully you can catch a good sale.

[@vyktrii]

Would you say Dolby Vision is a game changer for projectors as theoretically DV helps map HDR for lower nits and since none projectors are 1000nits, thus DV should perform significantly better than HDR10 ? (I asked this question as Hisense C1 has DV)

[@nevrsleep1]

20,000 hours is equal to roughly 2 and a quarter years. How much have you spread out that many hours of usage for your current setup? My flatscreen stays on all day because I’m a gamer-junkie.

[@chuckmunster3240]

Good choice 👍 I have this projector also and been loving it so much.. Great video !

[@kman9387]

I also have this projector as we'll as the 5000ES AVR. The Sony is as good if not better than Anthem. Great channel separation and functionality. You will never go back to soundbars again 😊

[@MrLianGuan]

Hey, is it hard to mount/calibrate by oneself? Looking for a used model for 3K..

[@paulkelley5269]

I also really like this projector. If you want Dolby Vision (low latency) look at the HD FURY boxes . Adds some hdr punch to this set up.

[@srinivasarao9366]

@NewStuffTV1, Thank you for the detailed review of this projector. One question: Between this Sony - VPLXW5000ES projector and the Hisense L9H Laser TV, which one do you recommend? Primarily for movie watching!! Thank you in advance!!

[@NewStuffTV1]

Thanks for watching! This is a tough question because the setups are waaay different from each other. The Sony is the superior projector for movies, but the L9H is considered a smart laser TV which can be used for anything. As far as the setup, if you want something simple to set up, the L9H wins. However, you may need to get a low-profile tv stand. If you want to be "at the movies" when you watch... Get the Sony.

[@simonl2072]

My understanding is the denser the image chip the brighter the light and the brighter the light the greater the housing and cooling. Laser has assisted in this but it's still got some way to go.

[@ewi57ty]

Please tell more about how loud the unit is compare to hisense and other projectors. I had few and i was quite angry when they get really loud so you have to options : increasy volume or use a headphones.

[@kman9387]

This projector is as quiet as any long throw projector. Most UST projectors are whisper quiet in comparison. But the juice is worth the squeeze, believe it 😊

[@sabeelkhadar6536]

Great analogy with the Phantom.

[@NewStuffTV1]

Ha! I was hoping someone out there would understand 👊🏾

[@mauriciob8260]

the projector is nice , real 4k , the marketing on this king of projector is target for full enthusiast Home Theater people but lot of us include me don't have the budget to spend 6,000 dollars only for a projector . I had before the Viewsonic PX 701-4K hdr lamp base projector , image was ok but I need something that I can watch with some ambient light so I upgrade to the laser projector Dangbei Mars Pro 4k , is a pixel shift projector also but the image ,contrast colors and brightness are outstanding ,with my 135 inches white 1.2 gain screen look just amazing , my point is there is a market on this hobby for every budget , and thanks to your channel you help us to make the right decision according to the review you put in your videos

[@sharksbean]

I went with the Nebula Cosmos Laser projector and I freaking love that thing!

[@sharksbean]

20,000 hours divided by 3 hours a day divided by 365 days in a year is 18.26 years

[@NewStuffTV1]

That's a LOT of movies and a LONG lifespan. They definitely built them to be a permanent fixture.

[@sharksbean]

@@NewStuffTV1 also I ain’t ever giving up on Blu-ray if I can help it!

[@kcchiefsproductions8687]

​@sharksbean Is blue ray inside of my playstation 5? If not then I gave up on blu-ray a while ago

[@sharksbean]

@@kcchiefsproductions8687 I do use a ps5 yes

[@kcchiefsproductions8687]

@@sharksbean to watch movies?

[@rambindustries954]

Compare the Soundcore 3 to the soundcore boost, motion 100 and oontz angle 3 pro

[@usamahhussain2008]

This is for Lord of the rings 4k remastered trilogy and other movies when used for cinemas being re released

[@VremyaSutok]

Красиво рассказал! Крайслер и фантом 👍

[@andrewbourne6806]

Whoa. I need this. My mouth is watering. Great video as always!

[@Basti791000]

Hi Bro! The Sony, it is a very good Projector, I give him a 4,5 from 5,0, same as the EPSON LS12000B, or JVC 5 The better Ansi Contrast on the Epson & JVC HDR is on JVC a best. But, with a Master Contrast Tuning from Avitect the Epson has the same native Contrast from 7100:1 as the Sony, and the same deep Black, like the Sony. Sony hasn't got a mechanical optic, so on my 21:9 it won't work. Ok.. IMAX.. I don't regret it, I m not a Marvel Avengers Fan. JVC has a Lamp. The Best Black on the JVC The best sharpness on the Sony The brighter one is the EPSON, and it has the better Ansi Contrast. All together for me the Epson is the best. Thanks to EPSON :D The best of the EPSON has the flexibility of positioning and a storable lens. AWAWAWAW AWAWAWAW LL CooL J my favorite Rapper Man, Can't life without my Radio Man, Farmer's Boulevard - Oh No Man, AWAWAWAW

[@mauriciob8260]

Sony is perfect for TVs and Projectors but not on AV receiver , do not buy a SoNY Receiver , lack of lot of features , like Dirac Live, Auro 3d , independent subwoofer output, Get a Denon , Marantsz or a brand that offer this feature so you already be ready for future proof

[@khalliwallivlogs]

You are sooo wrong on different levels , str an1000 is one of the best bang for buck avrs out there, 360 spatial audio with its 360 spatial mapping with supporting imax enhanced content, dolby visin, atmos, dts x, comes with all the bells and whistles at 600$-800$ , come on man what else offer you that, or you want high end stuff take a look at str az7000es

[@khalliwallivlogs]

Forgot the support of sonos and wireless speaker connectivity on all models

[@kman9387]

@khalliwallivlogs absolutely!! I got my 5000es and it totally defeated the top of the line Marantz and Anthem.

[@brosmile9388]

I agree about the no independent subwoofer out puts. Although Sony dropped the ball on that aspect, it thoroughly bangs on any other brand out there. Sony is a great AVR.

[@patrickcadette]

Ohhhh nice....😁😁😁👍👍👍👐👐👐👐👐🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@drewwagner8328]

C'mon can't afford that😢

[@kman9387]

You can find an open box for around $3,900

[@Wodz30]

and thats the piece of shit model!

[@angc1456]

nah VINYL RECORD MUCH BETTER SOUND THEN CD AND MP3

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[@marvinabugov4579]

You neglected to mention that you only get 2000 lumens at - full power. Do that and you won’t get 20,000 hours out if it. Instead, it is recommended you start at 75% power otherwise 1500 lumens and then maintain that by increasing power in 5% increments over time. A major complaint about the x5000 and x6000 is “fan noise”. Various other reviewers have found that at full power the db level can be over 60-70 db. (Hatoraid Cowboy for example). Trouble is it is not consistent from unit to unit. If you get one, Sony won’t fix it! (Vlogger Chris Pieser, for example.)

[@kman9387]

Not true! At 70% it measures 1900. Hateraide is completely wrong!

[@marvinabugov4579]

@@kman9387 You are talking about lumen output? If so, that is instructive. However, what is the decibel level when the projector is in high mode / putting out its full lumen power? Hatoraid Cowboy,in his review, measured at up to 70db. Similarly, vlogger Chris Pieser with his x6000 got the same kind of result. A local end-user near me also had the same issue. Sony offered no support (at that time). Having said this, these were fairly early models off the line. Meanwhile, other vlogger owners are not having any issues, such as yourself? I just corresponded with another vlogger who just installed an x5000 and is not having any issues with fan noise

[@kman9387]

@marvinabugov4579 My 5000es at full laser mode gives 41db. At 70% it measures at 24db which is flat with my rooms ambient sound. I got mine from Sony as a refurbished, so maybe that makes a big difference 🤷🏻‍♂️ I tried the Epson ls1200 and JVC NZ7 and the Sony took the win with picture quality. The Epson was a very close 2nd and would have taken the top spot if not for th non native 4k panels.

[@marvinabugov4579]

@@kman9387 Thank you! Now that is helpful and I think like the refurbishment made all the difference. Obviously, Sony realized the problem and is doing something about it - FINALLY - which is great! As of last May/June they refused to acknowledge the issue when asked by me - directly. When I got my 285es back in 2017/18, I had to get the vendor/sony rep return it for a new motherboard when my Contol4integrator could not

[@marvinabugov4579]

. . . Control4 integrator could not get the projector to sync properly. Took about 5 weeks. No problems since and the decibel level between your unit and mine is similar. Yet, I am going to wait until fall to see what upgrades both JVC and Sony introduce.

[@sage11x]

The sad thing is Sony IS budget… compared to JVC! But I don’t roll like that. Get yourself a BenQ HT4550i or Epson 5050ub. Anything over $3000 and, honestly, you probably better just buy a 100” TV.

[@kman9387]

Sony is no way budget compared to JVC.

[@Wodz30]

My projection is 200 inches, not sure if TVs come in that size mate.. have to pay to play ;)

[@GreenNicole]

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[@tboards71]

Damn! That thing is the same size of a Mini Cooper! 🤣