"JUSTICE LEAGUE" Animated Series Timeline! When Does the Super-Team Come Together?

[@dcauwatchtower]

FYI: "The start of Secret Origins" is referring to the first scene after the opening credits, featuring Batman confronting aliens at WayneTech. The actual opening of the episode on Mars takes place 2 years prior, during "The Lost Years."

[@supernerd5781]

Watchtower Database How did you guys comment on this video before it was uploaded.

[@dcauwatchtower]

...it’s our video. 👍

[@supernerd5781]

Watchtower Database I so you used that ability to warp space and time, great Scott!!!!!!!!

[@Bob78550]

ok.

[@maymay5600]

you think you guys can make a timeline theory on the arrowverse and dceu and how they all connect, including krypton series

[@JsReviews]

These timeline based videos are so much fun to watch! I always enjoy listening to people who know what they are talking about when it comes to the DCAU and you guy have my knowledge beaten for sure!

[@dcauwatchtower]

Hey, I like watching your videos too! -J (Wait, can I sign off as “J” when talking to you?)

[@JsReviews]

You know...that's a good question lol. I thought you were addressing me for a second there.

[@Digedon]

I caught that VeggieTales reference at the beginning 👍

[@SudokuBro]

Was not expecting that Larry-Boy reference in the beginning!

[@xyz360400]

Anybody else immediately think Hurricane Gardner was a reference to Guy Gardner from the comics? I don't know too much about the character but based on what I've gleaned, he doesn't seem to be too well liked for the most part so perhaps it was an joke at his expense, basically saying that the guy was a disaster of a character.

[@dcauwatchtower]

Nah, it was definitely a reference to Gardner Fox, creator of several DC characters.

[@autobotproductions1244]

@@dcauwatchtower why not both?

[@TrumbullComic]

@@autobotproductions1244 Well, Guy Gardner was named after Gardner Fox, so it kind of is. :)

[@UltraVioletKnight]

Wait so Tim Drake joins the Bat Family in 1999 when he is ~10 years old, but gets brainwashed by the joker in 2007, about 8 years later, meaning he should be about 18 years old. But in the flashback Tim is still a young kid. So what gives, he's just a late bloomer?

[@dcauwatchtower]

Something that we may never have an answer to, unfortunately. In 1999 he is 13 (per his official bio), so in 2005-2007 for the RotJ flashback, he would be 19-21.

[@RedVelvetUnderground333]

Wow just noticed return of the Jedi and return of the joker both star mark Hamil and both abbreviate to the same. I was reading this like there was no batman in Star Wars 😭

[@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460]

Tim is 12 in 1999 Then 2001 he's 14 2002 15 2003 16 2004 17 2005 18 2006 19 2007 20

[@diegobareno5820]

Thank you for summing up the timeline of all these series, I was very confused before.

[@dcauwatchtower]

You are most welcome.

[@isiano10]

I love this content! all of the careful and tedious research you guys do is greatly appreciated, keep it up!

[@jeraefinch4956]

i enjoy watching these videos, they are funny and informative but also make me laugh since i watched all of these week by week day by day as they aired and never cared about the timelines but keep up the great work.

[@mrigankshekhar9635]

Wow... I can't wait to see the new stuffs which you guys are working on for so long.

[@eegg5274]

Great video! But......where’s Nightwing’s hair video?! We want to know!

[@dcauwatchtower]

The topic haunts me every day. (But also, we talked about it briefly in our Vanishing Point episode about the B&HQ continuity errors.)

[@Jackmarmar]

That is an amazing Fib from outer space reference

[@roccoborghetti4693]

Bro that ending title sequence is fire. That should be the promotional video for the channel

[@dcauwatchtower]

It is! (Thank you)

[@RemixerUltimate]

That Veggietales reference was gold

[@TheCrossSoldier]

I really appreciate videos like these! It's really nice to have a timeframe of when the DCAU version of the Justice League was formed. By the way, I remember a while back you mentioned hat a topic for a video you were working on was, "Who would be on the DCAU version of the Teen Titans?" What's your progress on that? It's quite a difficult topic considering how little information we have on this version of the team.

[@dcauwatchtower]

Thank you! July will be filled with Teen Titans videos to coincide with the “Teen Titans Go to the Movies” theatrical release.

[@JacobyJ56]

Another quality video

[@StunsyGND]

Loving these videos! I honestly hope that you guys never run out of material. I’m still wondering how Superman knew John Stewart if he met Kyle Rayner in STAS. Could there have been offscreen adventures we didn’t see?

[@dcauwatchtower]

Thank you! We’ve got a video on John Stewart’s character arc in the works, keep an eye out!

[@StunsyGND]

Watchtower Database Ooh awesome! I’ll be sure to.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

So, has this character arc vid come along already?

[@cptmacmillan1111]

Holy shit that outro!

[@jimmyhasnofingers4242]

Was unaware that Veggie-tales is in the dcau

[@isabelr3467]

Hey, this is a really great and well thought out video, but there is one detail that I think you've missed. I recently rewatched the episode The Savage Time, and there's a line when they first meet alternate universe Batman where John tells him they've known each other "for years". This implies that at least two years have passed since Secret Origins, which...doesn't make any sense at all based on everything else, but is still technically canon.

[@dcauwatchtower]

This has been brought up many times before (no worries). There’s a semi-easy explanation. “The Savage Time” takes place in late 2001, per our evidence in this video. - Superman: has known Batman since 1999 in “World’s Finest.” - The Flash: has known Batman since his “Gotham Adventures” appearance that likely takes place in 1999. - Green Lantern: has been a GL of his sector for 15 years prior to “Justice League,” according to Dwayne McDuffie. It’s not crazy to think Batman and him met at some point during this time. Even if it was after Kyle Rayner becomes a GL, that was still in 1999. - Hawkgirl: has apparently met Batman at some point prior to JL per Batman’s “Hawkgirl? What’s she doing here?” line. She was on Earth as early as 1997. Wonder Woman and J’onn are the only ones that don’t work, having come to Earth/Man’s World the previous year. But we just have to accept that GL’s statement doesn’t apply to them, and he knew that, or knew he was exaggerating a bit.

[@isabelr3467]

That does actually does make quite a bit of sense. Thanks!

[@dawncolfer3454]

Still better then the film... wait I already did that

[@mvdwraptor7983]

First off, Great video! Second, it really seems like the justice league part of the dcau takes place in a relatively short period of time when considering the time that takes place for BTAS. Are there plans to try to find out at least some of the events that happen after the Unlimited series finale?

[@dcauwatchtower]

Thanks! Yes, it sure does happen quickly. As for post-JLU, we did an episode of our podcast “12th Level Intellects” a bit ago where we discuss everything we know for sure happened between JLU and Batman Beyond. But we also create a webcomic, “Legacies of the DCAU,” which chronicles those missing events + our own original stories mixed in, to best flesh out that time gap. I’d recommend checking those out! legaciesdcau.com

[@mvdwraptor7983]

that's great. Thanks a lot.

[@TheRealK33N]

We’re really closer in time to Batman beyond than to the OG Batman the animated series 🤯🤯

[@drhody4229]

Yup and still no flying cars

[@michaelandreipalon359]

At least there's no real life splicers... but yeah, still no Watchtower-esque space station near our moon (as seen in the S: TAS ep "Monkey Fun").

[@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460]

Robin Timeline Year 1 1999(12) Year 2 2000(13) Year 3 2001(14) Year 4 2002(15) Titans form Year 5 2003(16) Year 6 2004(17) Year 7 2005(18) Mystery of the Batwoman Tim's voice is deeper and no longer a Teen Year 8 2006(19) I think this when Return of the Joker flashbacks take place but idk. Year 9 2007(20) Year 10 2008 (21)

[@iolson38536]

It's Lenny's fault. He broke the plate. He's very naughty.

[@reidcunningham5906]

AAAY A FELLOW FLORIDIAN

[@jakehodgson82]

I've watched several of your DCAU videos and I got to say I love that some one loves the DCAU this much, I do want to point out that I do not believe that Batman & Harley Quinn was not intended to be part of the DCAU but was instead, like Superman: Brainiac Attacks before it, was inspired by the animation style and brought back some of the voice actors. However I may be wrong.

[@dcauwatchtower]

Thank you so much! Making these videos is hard work but it’s always great to see the reactions. As for B&HQ, it was billed as “part of the BTAS universe” and Bruce Timm himself said he considers it part of the DCAU, not to mention its lack of any major continuity issues that would boot it out (which is more than Brainiac Attacks can say, and that one was also mentioned by the producers to not be in the same universe as STAS). We’re doing a video on Brainiac Attacks soon, stay tuned!

[@jakehodgson82]

Hey who am I to argue with Bruce Timm! I mean I will personally argue because I'm stubborn as all hell but I'd never argue to his face. I look at it like I look at Superman Return, people say it's a sequel to Superman and Superman II, but I say nope cuz I prefer to view it as it's own thing. I feel it makes it better that way.

[@jakehodgson82]

i wasn't saying I didn't enjoy it. I did have issues with it but over all I liked it. It's hard to make me mad when it's Conroy and Lester though.

[@theleonpasta7336]

As much as I hate to admit it B&HQ more than likely takes place in the DCAU. Sadly being bad doesn't make it not canon.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Hence the necessity of fanon discontinuity, though I'm still debating on whether or not the Fatal Five movie is canonical.

[@kenroykentish4641]

Epliogue has 65 years time gap making it go from 1989 to 2054 meaning the Justice League show is set in the 80s , Terry is roughly 16 in 2039 meaning in 2054 he's around 31 since the return of the Joker is set in 2042 that means Tim Drake was kidnapped by the Joker in fall of 2002 or 2003 and my guess is that Batman is around 100 in Epliogue making him born in February 19th,1954 (adding his comic book birthday)

[@dcauwatchtower]

I see you saying this on multiple videos, and yet you’re using the 2054 date that we concluded based on a starting point of 2004 + 50 years. So I’m not sure what you’re hoping to say here.

[@kenroykentish4641]

@@dcauwatchtower looooooooool my bad just trying to make you see that my version of the timeline makes sense especially the Justice League being set in the 80s instead of the 2000s as it fits in well with the Epliogue 65 year gap storyline ur welcome 🙏 😉

[@AdamMullen]

Excellent video!

[@dcauwatchtower]

Excellent intro music!

[@AdamMullen]

Aw shucks.

[@thecowboyofoklahoma5866]

But how long does it take to make the watch tower, or was it already in production before the group assembled?

[@Target_Buster]

Amazing.

[@justice_productions_]

I kind of wish Kyle Renner had been the Green Lantern of the Justice League show, I love Jon Stewart and think he still totally should’ve been in unlimited but Renner was already established, in the end atleast Hal made a small appearance in JLU season 1

[@CameronKiesser]

Doing God's work. Love the channel!

[@nicholetiglao4680]

I love JLU for giving lesser heroes some spotlight (even if it's an episode of two). Heck, they even gave hawkgirl a good story and character Arc (in comparison to her confusing comic book history).

[@TrumbullComic]

Dating "Paradise Lost" using hurricane season is a really good idea. I hadn't thought of that. A couple of other dating factors I'm using in my DCAU Timeline (tinyurl.com/sllmutn): 1) "In Blackest Night" takes place sometime during basketball season (late October to early April), as a game can be seen on a bar television when John Stewart returns to his old neighborhood. It's also not very long after the League formed, as Flash, Hawkgirl, and J'onn are still getting to know each other, GL is re-acclimating himself to Earth after years away, and the Flash hasn't learned how to fly the Javelin yet. Considering the later date for "Paradise Lost" dictated by hurricane season, a date earlier in the year is preferable, IMO. 2) Aquaman addresses the General Assembly of the United Nations (or the "World Assembly") in the first part of "The Enemy Below." The UN's regular session normally meets from a Tuesday in the third week of September to December each year (www.un.org/en/ga/sessions/). It COULD be a special or an emergency session that Aquaman barges in on, but I think the implication is that he's barging into a regular session. Since Aquaman passes both several beach-goers and people in jackets on his way to the UN (kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZnKaKurg9eij7M), I'd go with the September date. 3) Lex Luthor is apparently tried, convicted, and sentenced in between scenes in the first part of "Injustice For All." This, IMO, could account for much of the eight month gap in between "Secret Origins" and "Paradise Lost." And considering that four other adventures happen in between "Paradise Lost" and "A Knight of Shadows" ("War World", "The Brave and the Bold", "Fury", and "Legends"), I think it's very possible that the first season of JUSTICE LEAGUE may cover MORE than a year's worth of time, especially when you consider that the Leaguers are presumably having other offscreen and solo adventures during this time. This also jibes with Green Lantern telling the alternate Batman "You've known us for years" in the first season finale "The Savage Time."

[@CaptainGinyu]

so the entire DCAU started in 1992

[@markmagician2471]

Pretty much.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Fitting, though this can be discounted with proper timeline chronology involving the Big Blue Hand and the Big Bang.

[@tjknight]

Btw, is the timeline narrowed down to an episodic viewing order? I've never really delved into anything chronologically by canon before but these vids really make me want to with the DCAU

[@dcauwatchtower]

We’ve done timeline videos on “Justice League” (this video), “Justice League Unlimited” (“Lex Luthor For President?”), “Batman Beyond,” “Static Shock,” as well as all 6 DCAU movies (“Return of the Joker” being part of the BB video) and a handful of the tie-in comic series. Still working on “Batman” and “Superman,” as they are easily the hardest part of the timeline to narrow down. We’ve got a “The DCAU Timeline So Far” video that’s everything we’ve covered on the timeline on the channel up to this point!

[@bul13ts]

Every time that Justice League reporter talks, I have this weird double take reaction where it takes me five seconds to remember he voiced about 20% of the population of Skyrim.

[@dcauwatchtower]

Same, though he’ll always be Goofy’s son Max to me. - James

[@bul13ts]

I honestly forgot he was in that.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Jason Marsden (the VA, that is) is also bloody annoying Myron in Fallout 2, Kovu in The Lion King II: Simba's Pride, Haku in the English dub of Spirited Away, Firefly in The Batman 2004, Billy Numerous and Red Star in Teen Titans, Rosh Penin in Star Wars: Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy, Bart Allen in Young Justice, and Craig Boone in Fallout: New Vegas. He's also "Spunky" Spencer in the B: TAS ep "Baby-Doll" and the teenage Clark Kent in S: TAS, and most especially Richie "Gear" Foley from Static Shock.

[@devinkent3560]

Wait, in "Savage Time" John Stewart says that Batman's known the Justice League for years, and at the end of "Starcrossed" in season two, they say Hawkgirl's infiltrated Earth for 5 years... I think the first two seasons are supposed to have taken place in five years

[@TrumbullComic]

Not necessarily. After all, Hawkgirl spent some time as a solo hero before the League was formed.

[@devinkent3560]

Well I guess if it were just the Hawkgirl thing, saying that the team only existed for 2 years, makes sense...but John Stewart saying he knew Batman for years at the end of the first season kinda refutes the 'happening in real time' theory

[@lopen312thegamer4]

Hi guys. Nice videos. What's the song of outro after 8 minute?

[@dcauwatchtower]

Thanks! Just a stock track we’ve used a few times.

[@iceomistar4302]

Oh jeepers, where is Matty sleeping, James? I hope you are giving him any rations for his hard work.

[@dcauwatchtower]

He survives on Lightspeed Energy Bars.

[@iceomistar4302]

Hahahahaha, He needs that energy to work out timelines in seconds.

[@iceomistar4302]

I see, the dark days have not been good to you, James watch him if he starts muttering in dark tones one day planning your demise, you should call Arkham Asylum, I hear they have state of the art facilities and Doctors, (Wink).

[@michaelandreipalon359]

You're way off. No cows were not only harmed, but also fully involved in the Near Apocalypse of '09. I think we should blame the Weather Wizard's actions in S: TAS' "Speed Demons" for the hurricane season to suddenly go "real life 2010s-era wack" in the early 2000s. 7:52: "Semi-canon" should be more appropriate. To conclude all this, the founding of the Justice League and the defeat of the Imperium sure is a series of days that will live in fame and glory.

[@martinharvey-olson8553]

Yo is that a Veggietales reference there at the beginning?

[@dcauwatchtower]

Indeed it is

[@ronaldmcheartattack2354]

I was wondering can you guys do a video on that rumor where Nora fries' sister from the Gotham girls cartoon is actually killer frost.

[@dcauwatchtower]

We can certainly jot that down for a future Vanishing Point episode!

[@ronaldmcheartattack2354]

Matthew Washburn yup

[@Bunbaroness]

Out of curiosity, is there anywhere to actually see this whole timeline written out as one document or something?

[@dcauwatchtower]

We’re working on it! These videos surrounding different chunks of the DCAU timeline are our way of introducing different concepts to you all and narrowing down specific windows so that everything else makes sense along the way, which is more or less why we’ve chosen the order of timeline videos we have (other than B&HQ, which was in such high demand that we just went ahead and released it early). Eventually, we will have an interactive timeline on our Watchtower Database website, along with all other info on the DCAU you could ever want to know.

[@Bunbaroness]

Ah. Looking forward to it!

[@miltonestefano]

So good videos

[@drhody4229]

So there's only six months or so in between darkseid controlling Superman and the start of Justice league? That seems a little odd that the governments of the world would let Superman near there nukes right after he attacked the world

[@dcauwatchtower]

Tell me about it! Check out our recent Cheekbones video for some more commentary on that…

[@Bob78550]

So when do you think that Wave Rider was from in the very first episode?Or do you think he came from the future and knew that Superman would be speaking there.

[@dcauwatchtower]

No clue! It’s too bad he never did anything on the series. We’ll be featuring him down the road in “Legacies” though...

[@Bob78550]

Yes i agree that the only things we know that he was born and that he died, based on BOOSTER GOLD robot being there.

[@Bob78550]

Say are you going to feature Bart?I asked because he was featured in the pilot.

[@dcauwatchtower]

I believe the idea of Skeets being made from Waverider's body is only canon to the New 52/Rebirth. So it is likely not evidence for Waverider's death in the DCAU, but that doesn't really affect anything one way or the other. And we just may have plans to include Impulse...

[@Bob78550]

It was in 52 that Wave Rider dies. It was in the same series that Renee Montoya became the Question. I read the Impulse series liked it. I liked him as Flash also. Have you considered including Paralax(he is Hal Jordon)

[@prodigal_1759]

wait what happened during the Apokalypse of 09 ?

[@dcauwatchtower]

Shouldn’t you know?

[@prodigal_1759]

xD Busted ... Tho your video was schway ;)

[@SylentEcho]

2:50 R.I.P headphones users

[@Swiftey596]

I know when it formed it formed at a time

[@jackwhite1341]

It's laura's fault! She broke the plate; I tried to stop her.

[@Anti-HyperLink]

I've heard of All Hallow's Eve because of Halloweentown II: Revenge of Kalabar. Those movies were da bomb until they recast Marnie for literally no reason. Fuckin' Disney. The second one wasn't great because they couldn't film in the same place as the first one so they had a tiny, terrible looking set as the teen. And then in the third one they never even went to the titular location!

[@billbatross6856]

However, according to the movie Justice League: The New Frontier from 2008, the Justice League formed sometime around the 1950's. Unless your counting the real year that Justice League debuted on TV? But to me, I feel that J.L.: The New Frontier is cannon!

[@dcauwatchtower]

Oh, certainly not canon to the DCAU. But a great movie!

[@billbatross6856]

@@dcauwatchtower It is a good movie! But, I never thought of it not being Canon in the DCAU?! But, how do we know that JL: The New Frontier isn't Canon? Is there any proof that it's not Canon? Because, If there's proof, then for all do respect, I certainly would like to see it!

[@dcauwatchtower]

Well, I mean, the reason you said is a big one-the League forms at very different times, and with different members in a completely different story and art style and voice cast and and and...it’s just not set in the same universe as Timm and co.’s series.

[@eman2863]

Kitty ?

[@scottderail9759]

How do know when JLU started?

[@MrTJA1999]

Do more dcamu

[@unchallengedmediocrity7886]

When does "World's Finest" take place?

[@dcauwatchtower]

By our current calculations (based on STAS and the Superman Adventures comic), April-May 1999.

[@Delgen1951]

so what about the justice league dvd that is set in 1960 with President Kennedy, announcing the JLA.

[@dcauwatchtower]

The New Frontier? Not part of this universe. Great movie/comic though!

[@Anti-HyperLink]

Was the Flash in a show before Justice League?

[@dcauwatchtower]

Yes. One episode of “Superman: the Animated Series.”

[@williammoldowan]

5 years later: still haven’t got superman

[@dcauwatchtower]

We’ve worked on the notes for it a few times and always come up with a lot of contradictions or disagreements on what angle to take things. But it’ll probably happen someday. BTAS is even harder…

[@dominicconner800]

Where is the green lantern tv show in the timeline

[@dcauwatchtower]

Not! (It’s not part of the DCAU)

[@salimyunus2664]

Superman fatin love to

[@Deined]

I'm been brainstorming on a fanfic based in the DCAU for months, but I'm having a pretty hard time mapping out a timeline for my fic because unraveling the DCAU's timeline is becoming an exercise in virtual futility for me. Unfortunately, this video, while entertaining, did ... not ... help.

[@dcauwatchtower]

I’m sorry

[@Deined]

Wow, I didn't even think my original post went through. @@dcauwatchtower Heh, and now I see where you guys admit the timeline makes no sense: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6vNhpSLhrR_ZrM BTW, I'm not trying to give y'all a hard time about this. It's just ... frustrating to make sense of the DCAU's timeline. For example, Supergirl: Supergirl is 16 when she faces Granny and the Female Furies in Little Girl Lost and turns 21 when she leaves the modern age to be with the Legion of Super-Heroes in Far From Home. So, that should indicate that her time as a hero in the modern age would be around five years, right? Wrong. Here's why: As mentioned, Kara is 16 during the spring when she debuts as Supergirl, and the events of Unity happen in at least the next spring, when she'd be 17. Assuming the events of Legacy happen maybe months after that, that would seem to indicate maybe a year and 1/2 passes in DCAU time at that point and would make Supergirl 17-18 years old. Stable so far, right? It's when Justice League and JLU come into the picture that things get screwy. According to Secret Origins, around two years have passed since the events of Legacy. We can then go ahead and be generous in saying that 1-2 years pass once the events of Starcrossed unfold. According to a comment from J'ohn in Task Force X, another two years have passed between Starcrossed and _that_ episode. So, all-in-all, if we take all these statements as gospel, Supergirl would actually be around 23-24 by the time the JLU's second season wrapped (which means seven or eight years have passed in the DCAU since her debut) and God knows how much older by Far From Home. See what I mean? The moral of the story: if someone is going to write a story for the DCAU and make any sense of its timeline, they're very likely going to have to break canon at some point. [/rant]

[@dcauwatchtower]

2 years have passed since Legacy? That’s not said. Just a 2-year time jump from...2 years before Secret Origins. Doesn’t mean the opening of the episode didn’t occur during STAS time. 🧐

[@Deined]

@@dcauwatchtower Heh, yep, you're right about that, my bad. I hadn't seen the ep in awhile, and I was basing my info in part on the DCAU Wiki's synopsis of the story. BTW, that Supergirl comic story you guys referred to in this vid? I'm not sure if you've since addressed it, but it's definitely not canon, since Kara is shown to be immune to Kryptonite in the story, but it clearly weakens her in JLU.

[@dcauwatchtower]

Yeah. The writers of that comic also wrote “Little Girl Lost,” so it’s our stance that anything that DOESN’T contradict canon from that comic can still be considered what happened in the DCAU, aka the first half or so of the issue. Her Argo backstory, her age, the events leading up to the present day of LGL, etc.

[@Anti-HyperLink]

What if the Justice League formed because of 9/11? Unless 9/11 was earlier in the DCAU and it screws it up. And I mean they formed to prevent another one and not to fight anyone because that terrible, terrible event kind of happened... must not make pun when talking about bad things.. IN A-very quickly. I dunno, just a thought. Probably makes no fucking sense. It just came to me is all.

[@jacobsabastian3871]

Why do KZbin channels still insist on doing unfunny skits../:

[@dcauwatchtower]

🌝

[@jacobsabastian3871]

Watchtower Database 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@theleonpasta7336]

While I don't like skits I don't mind too much as long as they're short.

[@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460]

I think Tim is 12 not 13

[@dcauwatchtower]

Because…?

[@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460]

Because what proves hes 13 except sinzu idk to be honest its my solution to make him a bit younger when Return of the Joke flashbacks in the comics Tim and Dick Became Robin at 12 and in Robins reckoning Tim says that might have worked when I was in 6 grade which could hint Dick was Robin at 12 But Bruce didn't let him go on the more dangerous missions probably to train more since he trained for 5-6 years but that doesn't mean he wasn't Robin

[@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460]

Maybe when Barbara asks Dick when Became officially Robin maybe he says 5-6 training because he was finally allowed to be Robin by himself without Bruce by his side and that when he was Robin at 12 he could only be Robin with Bruce by his side and only when he said

[@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460]

So I think Tim is 12 because 12 just makes sense it's a nice bridge I between kid and Teen for the "boy" wonder

[@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460]

Also big fan I love your guys videos and If I was you I would say say he was 12 just to make him one Year younger for you timeline Tim would be 10-11 during lost years and at 12 becomes Robin after 6 months training some training we see in sins of the Father then is 13 in 2000 and a teen during Justice League

[@austin62halo]

Durning the first episode…..

[@dcauwatchtower]

?