Justice League: How Unchecked Power CORRUPTS

[@GameRevo]

Pretty sure the Flash TV series also had the exact same ridiculous approach to 'fastest man alive' - have him run up to someone, stop, and try and talk to them. They should just make it his canon weakness at this point, like kryptonite.

[@CarlolucaS]

Yes. His canon weakness is that he is stupid.

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

@@CarlolucaS I would say him being human stops him he thinks too much and risk his time talking imagine a robot flash that doesn’t talk and kills fast with no hesitation

[@CarlolucaS]

You have super speed you can walk into a room and check the entire situation and disarm it without even having to harm the other person. Imagine a flash with a rope that just binds people before talking to them. There are probably an endless amount of ways to deal with enemies that do not involve killing. So... yeah... the Flash is stupid.

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

@@CarlolucaS I mean he has to do this everyday maybe he likes taking it easy so it doesn’t get boring or he takes his job way to easy and doesn’t want to crush peoples hopes and let’s them do stuff cause he is a nice guy or the writers wanted him to look like he isn’t invincible and so makes scenes like in the injustice league movie where flash gets trapped and thrown in joker gas and a saw hit his direction and kills him like seriously he could have easily dodged that

[@CarlolucaS]

@@ThiccFurryBoi34 Like I said in the video this is probably a writers problem. They just constantly forget that he is "the fastest man alive". I also hate that they give Superman super speed as well.

[@dionysus9873]

I know it’s been a while since this has been posted but another character that’s plagued by psychological issues is Martian Manhunter, he literally goes into a mental breakdown whenever he sees fire.

[@CarlolucaS]

Yeah, I forgot about that. Martian Manhunter should probably not go into the field cause he is gonna break down every time

[@ЯковБахтин]

In "Crisis On Two Earths", the Earth that got destroyed in the end was uninhabited - how did they know it is another question, but we can't say they couldn't possibly. More importantly, it's the life of the multiverse what's at stake. If they won't let Johnny Quick kill himself by helping, or if they won't teleport the bomb to that other dimension - that dimension and that Johnny are gonna die anyway just as the whole multiverse.

[@CarlolucaS]

Well, that is where the Batman stance of not killing anyone under any circumstance breaks down. He probably did the right thing but not under his world view.

[@gallantgamer4728]

I’m that surprised This didn’t get mentioned for Wonder Woman but remember the time there was a virus that was killing all men on earth, and she legitimately was not going to do anything about it and was actively fighting hawk girl who was which is fine pretty mind blowing those from the same series as the justice lords, so the justice league animated series

[@CarlolucaS]

One day I am gonna revisit the show. I like it a lot.

[@nathanrood865]

Loved your analysis my German friend! Growing up I was always the one no one wanted to watch those with because I'd say things exactly like you pointed out; great they deflected the bullets. Where did they go?? Enjoyed listening to this one.

[@CarlolucaS]

It is the small things that I care about. Maybe that is why I enjoy the "evil" versions of those characters more since they are more consistent in their behavior.

[@nathanrood865]

@@CarlolucaS exactly. I do the same thing with my characters I play in dungeons and dragons. They're always consistent and know who they are whereas the "good" characters from others are constantly contradicting and confusing. Maybe a marvel version/part 2 next??

[@rgmoses2189]

Man your videos are amazing! I want to watch all these movies now so do you have a watch list naming all of them? I couldn't find the movie named at 22:17

[@CarlolucaS]

It's a movie I mentioned earlier. It's the movie before JL is established and Darkseid attacks earth. Can't remember the name though :)

[@rgmoses2189]

​@CarlolucaS omg thanks for your reply, all your videos are amazing and I'm currently trying to watch all of samurai Jack just to watch your video about the show. Can you make the same/similar video on the morals of the Avengers and the Sokovia accords? Thanks!

[@CarlolucaS]

@@rgmoses2189 Ah, I think a similar video to this would be possible with the Avengers though the MCU handles politics far different than DC... Well at least they used to :) I actually have a whole video on the MCU as well. I see what I can do.

[@samuraitanner]

Another amazing and wildly interesting video Mr. Carl Lucas! Enjoyed it a ton!

[@CarlolucaS]

Happy to serve. If the idea was clear that makes me happy.

[@lostliberty9913]

I dont think Batmans a nepotist. I think he makes judgement reads on people and hires them if they are principled people as opposed to just “his friends”. At heart he’s a private investigator and sees the world in that lens. I actually think he is only one who sees the inevitable corruption of the Justice League coming as he is the first to leave it in multiple movies and sees the Justice League as more of a check for himself.

[@CarlolucaS]

He funds the JL and hires his traumatized and indoctrinated child into a vigilante institution. Sure, he leaves... after building the organization he helped make instead of trying to fix his own shit. If at all Bats sees the JL as a check on Superman rather than himself.

[@josephscriven5454]

I wish I got you in my recommendations. Instead of having to search for you. Good content. Very thought provoking.

[@CarlolucaS]

The only way to see the content is to sub with notifications. Otherwise, it is a gamble if you gonna see it or not. I try to make the content as good as can and if you guys want to have discussions I am open to that as well.

[@brianlaureus]

I get what he’s saying to a degree about the highering process but at the same time who else are they gonna trust I mean at least in the context of the ones related to the founders. Yeah that’s family and the fact of the matter is often times family will watch out for family. Red hood I’d say is better to keep close then let him run wild and Batman still believes he can change shown in many different other continuities. I think just using a specific instance in one continuity isn’t really the most objective look. But that’s how I feel .

[@CarlolucaS]

I mean if you take the very old Detective Comics Batman a lot of things might change. I looked at the animated movies like I said in the video. I think I even mention their titles in the video.

[@JUGGERNAUT5007U]

Love your vids like this and the Princess Bubblegum vid. Great work man

[@CarlolucaS]

We are tackling Lemongrab next

[@JUGGERNAUT5007U]

@@CarlolucaS Lets go

[@rogerjack18]

I mean you'd think in a world of demihumans mutants and super powered individuals the laws should be very very different.

[@CarlolucaS]

True. We would try to control them as much as possible.

[@lorenzolara1148]

It’s Jessica CRUZ. Jessica Drew is Marvel’s Spider-Woman

[@CarlolucaS]

lol Cruz and Drew. I fucked that up :)

[@lorenzolara1148]

@@CarlolucaS Don’t worry it happens.

[@Sitgangjo]

Aye that Raven analogy man i never knew ngl aint into it like i was but damn dude he spittin factz get that lady some help 😂

[@CarlolucaS]

Nah, stick her in a skimpy suit and let her make moral choices that might or might not save Earth and the entire existence of reality :)

[@terramisu]

Great video like always. I like your shirts btw 😂

[@CarlolucaS]

I should make a drip channel. Call it Carl "Drip" Lucas.

[@terramisu]

@@CarlolucaS Sounds perfect :D

[@aceknightgaming1542]

On regards to secret Identities when it comes to both good and evil version it's main untold reason is that the hero has a way out or an alter ego they can take on any time to get a break from everything. When it comes to why the good versions keep it; Batman has alfred + any Wayne enterprise employee that can be used against him (Wayne employees work help fund batman), Diana has no alter ego ,until she invented one in that Cafe scene, and that one doesn't have any legal backing it's existence it to be viable (it's just a pair of glasses). In regards to why they don't keep their loved ones in a secure facility, it's probably cause that they wouldn't like the isolation that is necessary to keep them safe. It's like how we were forced to stay inside our home during COVID but here COVID never ends. On regards to PTSD (young justice tackles this issue) however given how dangerous that the DC world is I'm not surprised if everyone has some form of PTSD. When it comes to raven having the crystal on her is the best possible solution (as far as I can tell) because if it's kept anywhere else , given cartoon logic, her dad will get free. I think the gem also gives her extra/amps her powers so the mental torture isn't for nothing. On regards to superman being the leader, it's either because he's the most deadly one in the league or people place their trust in his moral judgement. The latter was why in the injustice universe a lot of hero went with his regime. On regards to being a military power without oversight, I mainly blame this on the writers inability to explore the topic. Since DC goes for more fantastical stuff such concepts like oversight would be seen as a hindrance to the writers.

[@CarlolucaS]

I think the limitation of the "military power without oversight" could offer a lot of potential for good storytelling. There is so much conflict in there to be explored.

[@rpgincorporated8302]

There's so many versions of canon that these criticisms both land and don't land. For instance, in one comic run, Lex Luthor was Metropolis's first hero before his rivalry with Superman. Adam West Batman's Batman persona is a fully deputized agent of the law, as well as some versions of Captain Atom, etc. The comic that the Doom protocol is sourced from was originally intended to show how that version of Batman was in the wrong and exactly what he specifically was lacking and missing. Superman is often more of a Super-firefighter than a supersoldier, fighting natural and unnatural disasters on almost even footing and will prioritize saving just one single normal child over whatever the war that is going on. (and his bazillion types of vision are used to explain the knowing that there's not someone about to die on the other side of the wall, but I do agree that most writers/illustrators are wayyyy too eager to show mass destruction that they tend to forget that the entire reason heroes are needed is to SAVE PEOPLE). At any rate, I did enjoy the video. Keep up the good work!

[@CarlolucaS]

Yeah, there are a lot of versions of literally every hero and some are better handled than others. Flash might be the one who gets mistreated by writers the most.

[@maxus8075]

Kinda funny how people rag on tony stark from the mcu for getting spider-man involved in Civil war when the league basically recruit's children as crime fighters

[@CarlolucaS]

lol, it is most of the time even their own children or relatives or orphans.

[@maxus8075]

@@CarlolucaS at least originally in the comics the titans were their own team independent from the league. but yeah it's questionable how so many of their family end up as crime fighters. Oh yeah would you say that tony stark was in the wrong in civil war regarding his views both the comic and the movie

[@CarlolucaS]

@@maxus8075 In Stark's case you could argue that he was trying to save Peter. He knew he wouldn't be able to stop him from using his powers so what better way to protect the kid than giving him a suit and training. Even in Civil War he basically says. "Hey kid you are done now. Go home." Still questionable to a certain extent because, you know? Peter is fucking kid but by leagues (yes, that's a pun) better than what the JL does. Also there is a show called Stargirl and holy shit it is so much worse there.

[@maxus8075]

@@CarlolucaS true compared to the comics stark is a freaking saint in the mcu civil war. Though homecoming and FFH basically made him a dumbass again because the writers wanted to force him in the spider-man movies without caring about his development

[@maxus8075]

@@CarlolucaS true compared to the comics stark is a freaking saint in the mcu civil war. Though homecoming and FFH basically made him a dumbass again because the writers wanted to force him in the spider-man movies without caring about his development

[@zedokaiba6047]

As a start to my comment which i will update as i watch, batman sent owlman to an Uninhabitable frozen earth, which had 0 population. It was not a world with people, it was not a world with the possibility of life. And the point about not vetting members of the justice league like as if it was a job. When have they ever actually done that in most of the example? In the animated universe the justice league was created by a bunch of heroes who didnt go through any vetting other than knowing eachother, and thus why would they change the rules randomly on who they will and wont let join the justice league. On the point about johnny quick, he accepted that was the best way to end that situation. Ill put you in his shoes, Lets say you and your friends are super heroes, and go to a alternate world to stop evil versions of yourselves, would you sacrifice your best friend or somebody you never knew, and will never get to know? And johnny quick accepted his death aswell. About secret identities and the idea you had that was "better". Lets put you in their shoes, your brother for example is a super hero, wpuld you be glad to be taken away from normal society and everyone else and shoved in a PRISON, no matter how comfortable or homey you make that place, its literally a prison. Would you want that? And as a super hero, you wouldnt want to be a hero 24/7, like a example from marvel, spider-man, hes a normal person basically outside the costume, and every now and then youd wanna be a regular person, being able to go home and relax, maybe go out in public without people swarming you. And since all heroes are vigilantes, they would surely get arrested, or worse their family is targeted by the government. About the flash not revealing his secret identity cause hes the fastest man alive, but he isnt a god, he is godlike but he isnt superman, he has limits, he cant run forever nor can he constantly use his powers. Starboy doesnt seem to have an illness in a regular way, he seems to be afflicted by his powers and the fact that yk, he got sent to earth when he shouldnt even be there at all. On a note about the justice lords, superman did not kill lex luther for no reason or snapped because lex was evil, assumedly lex is the person who killed the flash that day, due to it being alluded to, and how most of the justice lords who talk about him act like him dying was the sole reason why they went evil. Also about mental illness in heroes, most heroes would have problems. I mean lets say you were the reason people died, or couldve saved people. You 100% would be effected by that. About raven, the whole problem is that trigon is literally a god compared to any of them. He was barely contained by the dark magics they used to put him in that crystal, and if it wasnt for raven he wouldve broken out of it. Nothing superman or batman or most other leaguers could think of wouldve stopped trigon, as you said he is literally the devil.

[@CarlolucaS]

Yeah, kinda. These seem like ad-hoc defenses that are still addressed in the video. Raven and Starboy being the prime examples.

[@ONEPEAKFRFR]

Wow this is realy eye opening lol

[@CarlolucaS]

Meh. Is it?

[@MrIrdatlan]

They go corrupt except when they are an extremely childish version like Teen titans go or something like that

[@CarlolucaS]

Only seen clips of Teen Titans :)

[@aprentice234567]

Hey Carl amazing video superhero i just wanted to know if you've seen what's been happening with Action Taimanin lately

[@CarlolucaS]

Not really. I played it a while ago and it was pretty much the same.

[@aprentice234567]

@@CarlolucaS basically the devs shot themself in the foot by adding a character voted by the "community" behind a paywall and the "community" lost their shits, even though they should've lost it a year ago because of the lack of content

[@CarlolucaS]

@@aprentice234567 I will say this and this similar to what I said in the video. There is a core game somewhere in there that feels really nice to play but it is cut into several diferent pieces and lazaly put togheter with booba. If they toned down the lazy and focused on making the product better instead of wanting to make all of the money they might have an actually okay game. Unfotunately they might be making more money with this model and as long as people exist that defend the business model there will be no change.

[@aprentice234567]

@@CarlolucaS i totally agree but the only business practice i will "defend" is the fact you can buy the characters instead of wasting so much money in a gacha that "MIGHT" give you what you want, its costly yes but it cost a shit less then a gacha where the price may vary from 5 to 200$

[@Dustbiter2003]

Awsome video 👍

[@CarlolucaS]

Thx. Always trying :)

[@lealien9247]

Dc have a different believe than marvel where focus on what happens if normal people have superpowers. Dc is about meta-physical in which certain character embody certain virtues so much that they are idealized (Superman = hope, Wonder Woman = truth, Batman = fear?) dc is like a utopian depiction of superhero which is why there is not much flaws in them. While the boys Universe show a cynical view what would happen if people got superpower but abused it. Am i saying dc bad? Not really, some story requires certain disbelief to embrace it, you can use it teaches lessons for many and inspire. That’s why we fond of people like Superman. Who fight for what is right even though the emotional side being the only surviving member of a dead race and have to adapt to new environment with different cultures still not hinder him. People love characters for not how realistic they are but what they embodying (like Heracles, Zhuge Liang, King Arthur, etc)

[@CarlolucaS]

I like the idea more often then I like the execution especially when it comes to characters like The Flash. Seems like writers just literally give up on that character.

[@lealien9247]

@@CarlolucaS maybe you should read invincible. It is a better depiction of final evolution of being a superhero into its final conclusion. Although, I think superhero genre as a whole not very realistic. That’s why the marvel civil war’s interesting about superhero identity crisis whether heroes give up their secret identities to work like a federal law enforcers even though a lot of character’s personality been write to become more aggressive than usual.

[@CarlolucaS]

@@lealien9247 Yeah, I on Invincible already. They kinda do The Flash correctly there :)

[@panthor109thabest7]

The Jl isnt a job. Its an afternoon club

[@CarlolucaS]

Well, the people at the tower are 100% working there, especially someone like Mister T or Cyborg.

[@panthor109thabest7]

@@CarlolucaS ilI do not recall a salary ever being mentioned. I would liken it to a jobless friend crashing on the couch who decided to do some chores to feel like they are not freeloading

[@CarlolucaS]

@@panthor109thabest7 Well, they have sleeping quarters, they are on call all the time, they probably receive 3 meals a day, access to the internet and entertainment as well as a JL phone. So while they don't get a salary they are for sure compensated for work. Everything funded probably by Bruce Wayne.

[@panthor109thabest7]

@@CarlolucaS So does everyone in an upper class house

[@CarlolucaS]

@@panthor109thabest7 I don't recall someone in an upper class house to do a job of a cop :)

[@tailsdoll2743]

You know Batman doesn't trust Alien So you're saying the Marvel world is better

[@CarlolucaS]

Funny you say that. I have a video on Marvel World Building and how it deteriorated over time :) You'll like it.

[@tailsdoll2743]

@@CarlolucaS sounds interesting can't wait to wich

[@dotznzeros5829]

The boys is such a poetic interpretation of the justice league

[@CarlolucaS]

Really enjoyed the first season of the show and never watched the rest :)

[@PotatoKing86]

​@CarlolucaS why not

[@isamekailmahmud9302]

did you draw your own profile picture?

[@CarlolucaS]

No, the artist is Cranity. Link in the description.

[@Surya25170]

Sounds sus

[@CarlolucaS]

Susus Amungus?

[@Surya25170]

@@CarlolucaS amungsus

[@happynihilist2573]

"Wonder Women has all the men of the village killed cuz... feminism?" Well a lot of modern feminists say things about met that are disturbingly similar to what certain Germans said about certain minorities so...

[@CarlolucaS]

She eventually turns around :)

[@shamrockgaming9505]

Wow thats a take lmao certainly not a good one but it exists

[@narkcore]

carl you gotta be my favorite channel for cartoon thesis'

[@CarlolucaS]

Well, I annoy my friends with my wacky ideas long enough. Glad someone finds joy in that. Before you guys hear it my friends hear all this shiz for days or weeks.

[@narkcore]

@@CarlolucaS I'm currently working on a comic and stuff like this tickles my brain

[@CarlolucaS]

@@narkcore What helps most of the time is consistentency. Like the Flash example. Flash could be a really interesting idea for a hero or villain but most of time writer treat him like is a normal guy and sometimes he runs fast. No consistency which makes the story stupid and muddies whatever point the story wanted to make.

[@narkcore]

@@CarlolucaS i find it hilarious that they really never do anything with flash at all. there's so much potential to have awesome fight scenes and have his speed interact with the world around him but yeah, like you said. he just runs fast sometimes. like has the vibrating fast enough to pass thru walls ever even been used effectively? i've never seen it

[@CarlolucaS]

@@narkcore The vibrating stuff is almost always a gimmick and not much more.

[@narkcore]

very very underrated

[@CarlolucaS]

You guys just watching, commenting and giving feedback is already more than I could have hoped for a year ago. So thx and also always open for ideas.