Will This Gear Fix Big Problems with Winter Camping?

[@JustinOutdoors]

GGG New Gear: geni.us/New-GGG Mesh Base Layers: geni.us/Brynje 👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇 X-Dome 1+ Tent: geni.us/X-Dome1plus Exped Ultra 7R Pad: geni.us/Ultra7R Mesh Base Layers: geni.us/Brynje 1600mL Pot: geni.us/Toaks1650 Down Quilt: geni.us/EE-Conundrum Synthetic Quilt: geni.us/revelationapex Boot LIners: geni.us/BootCovers PackWizard Gear List: www.packwizard.com/s/__0JtS4

[@boredandagitated]

Mesh base layer bonus: if your hike ends in a Berlin night club you’re ready to go. Put on your ranger panties shorts and Bam! UL club ready

[@wild-radio7373]

😂😂🤌

[@thijsteunissen5239]

I see a professional speaking here

[@tegelstein]

@@boredandagitated Bergheim 😬

[@sloth210983]

Probably need to fix the smell issue first? Unless youre going for a pheromone approach in the club ofcourse :)

[@mtadams2009]

I always carry instant mashed potatoes for when I add too much water to my meals. Which I seem to do often. This is a trick a woman on the AT taught me. It absorbs the water and adds some potato’s to whatever you’re cooking. I am interested in the mesh shirt idea. I know Quadzila likes them. For winter camping I love the quilts home and use a WM sleeping bag and I have never been cold. Thermorest all the way with a closed cell pad for added warmth and backup in case something happens to the inflatable.

[@LoveatFirstHike]

I do this too and it’s a great hack! Plus mmmm, mashed potatoes!

[@top0657]

If you are into the mesh baselayer I recommend checking out Aclimas woolnet. Its merino so it eliminates the stinking problem pretty much completely. I have had it on a one week trip where I just hanged it to dry/air for the nights and even on last day there wasnt really any noticeable smell to it.

[@durstongear]

Nice vid. Thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate the feedback too and am working on almost all of it. We will have a full solid interior option and extra guyouts on the lower legs in batch 2 in April. I am also working with Easton to get an updated tip design for that next batch with a slightly smaller knob so they'll fit easier in the hole. That should smaller knob should help alleviate accidentally pulling out the tips, but also a bit of light glue (locktite?) like you suggest is a good idea. The tips are solid plastic so they can also be sanded down slightly too so they come in/out easier. Longer term, a true screw-in tip would be amazing. The engineering cost on it is scary but I'll look into it. Trying the two different feet together is a nice option. I saw someone else do something similar, but they tied the cord loops at the ends together. It's tricky to design tips where they fly and inner each pitch separately but also click on together. There are ways to do it, but I'm still searching for an option I really like (elegant yet light). I didn't see the 35 lbs load test. The tent should be fine with that, provided the optional trekking pole supports are in place. With those supports the upper roof load limit is about 18-20 lbs (which is still quite a bit - roughly 200L of snow at a typical 10:1 ratio). - Dan

[@joewinfree9814]

Thanks for the updates. Justin's critiques are excellent! Looking forward to the solid release in April! 🍻

[@Telthar]

Eagerly watching this product line. Already have a Pro 2+, but a freestanding tent that can also deal with the winter would complete all but my car camping lineup.

[@malinorcutt1421]

Would it be possible to get the option to order these poles later seperately? I already ordered the first batch, hard to see upgrades already being made before I can likely even get tent out in real use. Already mentioned and you have said you're doing but a lot of these complaints seem to be fixed by a "solid" option vs a true problem with this tent spec

[@bihlygoat]

Yeah I’m waiting for the solid inner option since I want a winter 1p tent.

[@nolan8226]

Dan you're awesome, crazy how my X-mid is a better tent than my tarptent stratospire for less than half the price. can't wait for the 2 person x dome

[@memathews]

A thought on your snow melt fuel efficiency: I noticed you scooped powder snow into the pot. You may already know this, but powder snow is insulated by the air between the flakes, much the same as goose down holds air, this requires more fuel to melt. If you scoop the snow and them compress it in the pot the reduction in air pockets reduces the fuel needed to melt that amount of snow. I saw you pour in some existing water, that helps to fill the bottom air pockets and keeps the snow from "burning," but you'll get an even faster boil by compressing the snow or even creating snowballs first to drop in the pot.

[@pabloelsur1624]

17:07 yeah, these alloy wheels are impressive, Justin ;)

[@shanelyon414]

My Brynje mesh base is the merino wool version. So far only the pits smell a bit after 3 days of heavy winter hiking. I have a Wiggy's poly mesh system also and like yours starts to get a smell after 1 day, no surprise. Fish net base layers is the GOAT for cold weather, realy allows you to regulate your body temperature to reduce sweating.

[@kad2972]

I agree with your merino wool mesh tip. I use Aclima merino mesh clothes

[@DerekSOutdoors]

Hey Justin, for the sleeping pad I find that I sleep cold on almost all pads, even on my Xtherm and Xtherm NXT. The way I fixed my problem was to put my gossamer gear 1/8" (or zlite) foam pad on top of my Xtherm (instead of under it). That way the warm foam insulation is a nice buffer between me and the pad. People say r value stacks.. but I find the way you stack it matters as much as just stacking more layers 😅

[@r2herzog]

That outro though... Haha Great video! Just ordered the X-Dome. It really looks amazing.

[@KrizAkoni]

I have the wool version of the Brynje mesh and used it hiking almost every day for 3 weeks straight in Maine this month…no stink! I need to try those shoe liners, they look excellent!

[@donniebel]

I also have the merino version and it is very good in the smell department. Unfortunately I have the short sleeve version and the sleeves are so short I get chaffed badly from it. The synthetic version I just got and the sleeves are considerably longer so time will tell.

[@RCshowmen]

@@donniebelget the long sleeves they are very comfortable

[@donniebel]

@ the short sleeve synthetic version has not caused any problems like the merino version does. If I was in colder weather more I would get the long sleeve version. Either way, the fishnet is the way to go IMHO.

[@dangerpudge1922]

Howdy Justin, I own the EXPED Ultra 7R and the Zenbivy Flex and the Nemo EC. I was a little shocked that I could hold it up to the light and see through it (it is translucent). That's SUPER important to do because you'll see very quickly that the insulation moves around, and will fall to the end if you have it inflated and stood up on end. As it comes from the factory, you need to move the down around so that you have good coverage otherwise you WILL have cold spots. Seriously, this is something it took me a bit to figure out, and actually that's the reason I bought the EC. Having to make sure to deflate the pad so the down doesn't shift, and then to roll it so the down doesn't get pushed around, and then to make sure NOT to blow into it but use a pump sack or electric pump (and then ask whether or not that has actually blown the down around) was a little too sketchy for me since this was what I'm counting on to keep me warm in really cold conditions and it has to be reliable. I hate to say these things about the pad because it's so darned comfortable and I really love the valve system and feel it's very well made. It is what it is though. The EXPED is one of my most comfortable pads, however the EC is warmer. To note, I am a cold sleeper and if I find manufacturer temperature comfort levels are correct for me, it's generally a miracle. I tested two sleep systems side-by-side to 20°F with a constant 15mphish breeze @~9k' elevation, on hardpack decomposed granite surface on an exposed mountain inside a Durston X-Mid2 (SilPoly). One was an EE Revelation 20° on the Nemo Tensor EC, and the other was my Zenbivy 10°F Light Quilt and Sheet on the EXPED Ultra 7R. The EE/EC combo kept me warm underneath but started to get just a touch chilly right as temperatures approached the 20°F mark, which is right on the money and what I'd expect from the quilt. I was surprised how well the pad kept me warm, despite being less comfortable than the EXPED. The ZB/7R combo was warmer on top (decidedly so, which is also what I'd expect) and was surprisingly, a bit chillier though not uncomfortable. The ZB/EC combo would have been the warmest though slightly less comfortable.

[@SeeThePotential]

This guy gets it. I have owned the Ultra 7R for two years and slept 100+ nights on it, and my father the Dura 8R. By holding a light against the pad you will be able to see the down move. The down might still be compressed from storage in the shop, and you might benefit from inflating the pad for a weeks time and letting the down fully expand. Another thing to consider is how you store the pad yourself, as it is recommended to not have the pad in the stuff sack for extended periods of time. Especially when deflating the pad the down is pushed to the valve side of the pad, unless using a pump, which I highly recommend specially for these down insulated pads. The pads are definitely great and comfortable, however the shifting down is something that you need to keep in mind during setup. I have also not slept below -10c with mine, so mileage may very.

[@LoveatFirstHike]

I enjoy this channel because you give honest reviews and willing to discuss that winter backpacking is an ongoing learning experience!

[@tegelstein]

Brynje also have a merino wool variant of the sexy fish-net base layer. Another brand to checkout is Aclima.

[@wild-radio7373]

Are they back in stock?😢 last I checked, all the popular sizes were sold out on their website ❤

[@tegelstein]

@ I live in Sweden and both brands are readily available everywhere

[@RCshowmen]

I don’t think Aclima is very active in North America. Wiggy’s is US made but they don’t have wool options.

[@miked4293]

Subaru car magazine shots on the closing scenes were top notch!! This video is very much appreciated by someone slowly trying to switch from hammock to ground sleeping. Winter is the hardest hurdle to overcome!

[@StreetDogSteve]

The bags over bare feet idea is so simple yet genius. never thought of isolating the sweat like that.

[@anninwhack1998]

This sock VBL cracks me up. For sure it helps I know first hand. When we were kids in western PA my mom would have us put grocery bags under our socks and sneakers and up our legs so we could play in the snow and she wouldn’t have to buy snow boots for growing kids all the time. Now mom strategies for saving money is UL posh. 😂😂😂

[@UserManson]

Love the outback and the stylish trunk safety latch!

[@cd7652]

Great Video Justin! Suggestions, when melting snow put some of your water into the pot and warm it up before adding snow, this will help save fuel and speed up melting. I learned this in Survival School a while ago. Also, for your sleeping pad, go to our favorite gear store (GGG) an get a Thinlight Foam Pad (I use the foldable One) to put under your sleeping pad. It keeps your pad from slipping around and also gives you a little extra barrier for only 3.3oz (94g). Keep it up bro!!

[@johncramer9564]

I recommend to just go "all in" on the pot and get a 1 gallon pot which has about same width as your pack. Put it's lid below it, then stuff it full of other gear. Then the bulk isn't an issue because the space the pot would have taken up is fully filled with other gear items. You need 10L of snow to make 1L of water, so it really makes sense to have a really big pot.

[@BackcountryTreks]

These videos are super valuable! Thanks Justin for sharing all your knowledge and results from first hand experience. Excellent channel!🍻

[@MarcMallary]

I have a military Gortex bivy, which I can put my mattress inside and avoid the drafts. I can put a quilt on top, or inside. I put a space blanket, shiny side up over the floor of my tent. I carry a foam pad also.

[@migranthawker2952]

"Space blankets" have absolutely NO thermal efficiency. Many years ago the UK RAF Mountain Rescue organiasation tested them and found they were less efficient than a polythene bag!

[@fpvoutside]

Give the 7R a healthy shake to spread the down around inside the mat. Also look at the UL Pad 15 or 15+ for an ultralight under pad for a 1.4 or 2.0 R rating boost.

[@Itb7687]

Great test! I’m set to try quilt camping this winter as well. For my winter pot, I ran some tests a few years ago and landed on the Olicamp XTS 1L aluminum pot (has a heat exchange bottom) as the most efficient for melting snow. In combo with my Pocket Rocket 2 it beat out everything else (including the dedicated MSR Reactor and Windburner) for speed, fuel efficiency, and ease of use melting snow. I use a 1.5L Primus heat exchange pot for two people (no longer made).

[@bertman4]

I started using a Brynje mesh t-shirt and have been very happy with how it performs. The fabric is Polycolon which is an odor resistant polypropylene. I wear a very thin baselayer (OR Echo long sleeve with quarter zip) on top before my insulation layers. If you are that worried about the stink factor, Brynje does make 80% wool based mesh layers you can try out.

[@MarchOfTheWarrior27000km]

XL glad ziplock bags ! Use a thin base layer sock then the ziplock bag if it’s super cold throw a heavy wool sock over the ziplock bag. Your welcome 13,000km strong advice from the March Of The Warrior

[@daveyyc9784]

Justin, my telepathy is working. I so wanted that 7r pad to work. Looks like a pass. Also, I have the enigma 10°. I just ordered the 50° synthetic on black friday sale. I don't want to spend big $$ on a cold weather sleeping bag, so I am very glad to hear that your combo kept you warm. Thanks for the video. Too bad that road closes sunday....

[@frogturtle]

sad that we only got one Justin in this video instead of several clones but great content nonetheless cheers brother

[@lisaphares2286]

Try wearing socks with vapor barrier over them. When you’re camping in those types of temperatures, put your socks outside overnight them smack them hard on a tree or a rock to get the frozen moisture off. This means you need to use the 2 socks method, one pair to wear at night. Not letting the moisture be wicked off your feet while hiking is bad for your feet.

[@Choccytube]

For the pole end try self amalgamating tape, it's what you use to repair pipes, so super durable and grippy too.

[@brianadventures9622]

Looking forward to the Marty and Kane trip! I loved last years! Stay warm!

[@truepaulesko]

You have to try pajak new sleeping pad. 11 cm thick r 6.6 and 68 cm wide. Write them! They also have very wide sleeping bags that are designed to move inside the bag, not with the bag. And their top bag is -31 degree comfort with 1500 grams of weight. I bet you would love it. It's a brand it has surprised me a lot.

[@JustinOutdoors]

I'll check them out!

[@daveyyc9784]

Is that pad available in North America? I just checked the pajak website and that pad would cost close to $500cdn including shipping to purchase.

[@JustinOutdoors]

@@truepaulesko definitely looking into the pajak expedition pad

[@aqua.scape69]

Can’t find it in the US.

[@petercruz1993]

Their pad looks great. Long wide and only weighs 650g with an R- value of 6+. Never heard of these guys, will look into them. Thanks!

[@b4c0n33]

big agnes anvil horn bag attaches to pads. it has no bottom insulation but thats never exposed since you cant spin the bag while in it. I love mine, it has a pillow holder and is wider than a traditional mummy. Maybe a bit heavy but very comfortable.

[@Melanie-Shea]

Vapor barrier liner bags work better if you put them between foot and sock. GOATED cold weather trail running shoe meta is foot > bag > sock > bag > shoe. You gotta change into nice high-pile socks at the end of the day though and air your feet out. But, you should be doing that anyway. There’s very few things more important I. The backcountry than foot care! I highly recommend non-membrane soft shell fabrics for deep winter to pair with the mesh base layers if you are working hard.

[@zedaprime]

Teakettle is awesome for snowmelt. Pouring out is super easy.

[@wilmertoorn2773]

One idea for the boot issue! The nordic military conscripts (Norway, Finland, Sweden, etc...) are thought to "sleep on your boots", or simply put them somwhere between your body and sleeping mat. Your body temperature will prevent the boots from freezing solid, and you wont have to "break" into them every morning! (They will still be very cold).

[@NoviceWildCamper]

I did the same thing to my inner and outer connecting it at the bottom. On my video up last night I also noted the same issues with the mesh and also the poles being too tight. The tips also popped out when dismantling I still love it though 👍

[@ervinrodriguez9655]

An X-Dome “Solid”, would be a nice one, if Dan Durston would bring that as his next X-Dome tent. 😊👍🏼

[@durstongear]

We will have this in April.

[@gcruishank9663]

Yep, if you hike in winter you have to wear a boot barrier. If your boots get wet, big problem. I use the RAB socks, on top of a thin synthetic sock, then a wool sock over top the Rab socks., work great. Those Brynje mesh layers are awesome, will always wear them hiking and skiing.

[@JustinOutdoors]

The issue I ran into with the rabs is the seam tape hydrolyzed, resulting in the seams letting moisture through. I am thinking of revisiting them by fully removing the seam tape and then using silicone seam sealer to get them working.

[@gcruishank9663]

@@JustinOutdoors Interesting, good to know, haven't run into that problem yet but you probably put a lot more miles than I have. Good idea, maybe Aquaseal.

[@chasel1305]

I would be interested to see how you pack your bag for winter because one of my problems when winter backpacking is I never have enough space mostly because stuff isn’t optimally packed.

[@JustinOutdoors]

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[@whamilto]

Try a CCF pad in addition to the 7r? Also, I’ve found that having a wide enough overquilt that can cover the sides of the pad to alleviate convective cooling from air moving across the sides is super helpful in keeping the whole system stay warm.

[@whamilto]

A note on the overquilt suggestion, I’ve used an X-Wide quilt that was sufficient for this, but even better was using my Enlightened Equipment Accomplice 2p quilt (40° F) over everything. It is big enough for the toe box to go over the quilt AND the pad, and tuck under the pad on both sides without compressing anything. The accomplice weighs under 25oz and is amazing for this.

[@evank8459]

For a lot of vehicles, those trunk/hatch struts are pretty cheap and easy to change out yourself, fwiw

[@wild-radio7373]

Gas struts are banger🔥🤌

[@journeyman7189]

Great tests Justin. I have the Brynje base layer and it is the synthetic but they added something to help reduce the stink and it works. Glad to see the X-dome is living up to the hype. Any chance on doing a pack the backpack video. I always have problems with getting everything in. Nate

[@SignTracker54]

In those temps I’d bring a foam mat to put down first, and to save weight cut it in half. I’m waiting on my x dome to arrive. You could use wax that is used for carbon arrow inserts. You can use a blow dryer to warm it up if you ever needed to take it apart. Just remember to pull straight out and not back and forth or you’ll damage the carbon pole.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

Looks like a fun adventure!

[@levib5168]

Can’t wait for my xdome when the 2nd batch ships

[@scottcampbell9008]

A couple of quick suggestions for you (and you may already know these). First, I use a thin sock or sock liner on my foot first, then the bag (I use good kitchen garbage bags or even bread bags), then my sock, then boot. I find that the thin sock or liner allows the bag to slide and is less prone to tear. I have gone 2 seasons on some bread bags without a rip. I also find it a bit more comfortable as well. Second is the smell from poly. Not for the hike, but for when you get home: soak the poly in Dettol, which will kill the bacteria (you can probably also use a vinegar water mix, but I just use Dettol). After soaking, I run it through a regular wash cycle. Detergents and fabric softeners are sometimes the food of choice for some bacteria.... I have been eying mesh base layer for a couple of years now and based on this think I will finally give them a try.... thanks.

[@sveinarnefosse489]

seal skin socks or use thin wool innersock, plasticbag and thick wool outersock.

[@philsmith2444]

I made a 4’x7’ floor liner out of Reflectix for my Marmot Hammer, I have no idea what the R-value is but I barely feel the cold through a single layer if I sit on the floor. My problem is with boots freezing at night, what I do is turn my sleeping bag compression sack inside out, put my boots in it, and put the sack at the foot of my sleeping bag. I’ll stuff my light down jacket between my feet and boot bag to keep my feet from getting cold before the boots have warmed up. They’re pretty warm when I put them on in the morning, but as of yet I haven’t gotten down to lows like you have. I just have bad memories of the stench when wearing Mickey Mouse boots in places like Korea, and that really turned me off to vapor barrier anything.

[@memathews]

I used to do the same, stick my boots in the sack, but I placed them underneath the foot of my sleeping bag and they stayed warm/dried out without getting my feet cold.

[@davidcooper8390]

Thanks for sharing your trip and gear you were testing out. I have loved how comfortable those Exped vertical baffle pads are. It is a shame this one wasn't warm enough.

[@willek1335]

I'm almost certain it's because of down didn't sit right. I've taken my 6R down to way colder temps. It's rated to -30 I think. He can hold it up to the light and see right through it.

[@joeldahlin2215]

What OR shell are you wearing? Like it?

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

For a winter pot, dry out the GSR Dualist 1.8L pot. It's got a strainer, a fantastic handle and just really works well.

[@jakeva9802]

Haven’t made the jump to winter camping without a wood stove. These tests are good to know if I ver decide to not bring a stove.

[@christiankammer2379]

On boots: to avoid needing VBL bags/socks you could switch to boots with removable liners/inner boots that you can dry out over night, with hot bottles or on your body, for example.

[@markall8641]

You need an x-dome solid inter tent… they don’t make it yet but they might someday. For the colder people. At the same time wouldn’t want durston to change the standard inter as you stated.

[@lakorai2]

Dan stated this is coming out in the spring

[@JoshM11]

Great Video! I loved the outro. Something different and goofy, showing off more of your personality!!!

[@scottyplug]

LOVE THE OUTRO!!

[@YakubFloyd]

Exped makes VBL (vapor barrier liner) socks. I also use a VBL liner in my sleeping bag made by Western Mountaineering.

[@adamstewart7465]

Pulled the trigger on a Peax tipi and stove today. Sucker for Black Friday. You need that's set up more than I do😂. Thought about that pad when it came out, glad I didn't get it.

[@brendanmohan9831]

I’m waiting in the mail for an MSR big titan kettle because I had the same question as you: Can I downsize my pot from 2L in order to reduce volume, without causing the snow melting chore to be significantly worse? Glad it worked out for you!

[@wild-radio7373]

I recently got told about neoprene socks. This is what I will be trying come winter camp season, as I also have similar problems with my winter boot situation ❤

[@YakubFloyd]

Neoprene socks work, just make sure the seams are taped. Alternatively you can use Exped VBL socks or SealSkinz waterproof socks. The SealSkinz are probably more comfortable than neoprene socks.

[@wild-radio7373]

@@YakubFloyd i appreciate your recommendation!🥰

[@jasonkennedyjr.5165]

Should’ve gone for the Dura 8r. In my experience it has been the most comfortable sleeping pad and was almost too warm in 0°F. Looking forward to trying it in colder temps. Cheers!

[@ewik939]

Hahaha loved the “pimp my ride” outro, clearly I’m not the only one driving a piece of sh*t car and spending my money on gear and hiking instead 😂🤘

[@ChezArtet]

I roll inside my bag, so the back of the bag is always down but I myself can be facing any way I want. If exposing crushed down is your problem that’s a good way to avoid that

[@andreameigs1261]

Thermal efficiency decreases with air mattress volume. The taller/wider/longer the pad, the colder it will be (all else being equal) because your body has a larger volume of air it needs to heat. There is more pad sticking out into the air, exposing more of its surface area to the cold. If you can stand it, a 20'' wide pad would sleep warmer than the same pad in a wide version.

[@Bryan24k8]

Winter camping -10 or lower I would rather sacrifice a tiny amount of pad thickness comfort for warmth any day. Been cold before from a more “comfortable” winter pad and what a mistake. The Thermarest Xtherm always keeps my back warm, keeps me safe and never lets me down. Warmth is comfort. Thermarest Xtherm for the win.

[@JustinOutdoors]

I'd really like to get a mor comfortable sleep than the Xtherm provides, but I agree that it is the current GOAT for winter pads.

[@daveyyc9784]

A 30yr old me agrees, however these 50yr old shoulders can't hack the xtherm for more than 4hrs and I get no sleep. So I'm searching for the solution.

[@jasonmiles8974]

I love layering quilts and sleeping bags, still the idea from the Big Agnes Lost ranger, it seems to work very well, however there is a bit of trial and error in figuring out each configuration's limits., often bring an I climb synthetic Poncho/ quilt as extra insurance in case I miscalculated, it seems to buy me an extra 10 to 15°

[@Frogboxer]

Use radiator insulation, foil/foam, on top of pad...it's thin, light, heat reflective and waterproof...can be used on its own if needed...and cheap.

[@MarcMallary]

I have some neoprene socks that skiers use, that are an insulated vapor barrier.

[@neemancallender9092]

I used Byrnje wool string undershirts and long Johns in -40 weather I would hike in them and wind jacket and wind pants with full zips I would never sweat with very heavy packs snowshoeing in deep snow I could just dump the heat But As soon as I rested I had to put on a heavy weight parka or I would get very cold very fast We are talking about in the 70s

[@christopherwiebke3578]

When I shine a light thru my exped 7R, I can see where the down is much thinner is some sections of the pad.

[@doublegreat]

Nice vid Justin. +1 for the double quilt kit. The winter section of my AT through had me in the Smokies in February. The combo of the natural fill inner w/ the synthetic outer was wicked. An extra wide topper can also keep out the accidental drafts one gets if you’re an active sleeper. BIg advocate. (EE: EnigmaLW, 20F/RevelationLW, 40F; w/XThermLW). AKD, dude! (always keep dialing) Cheers! ⛰️❄️⛺️

[@MoonbeameSmith]

My only thought / concern re mesh like that is getting sweat on your next layer where it might be harder to clean./desweat

[@MeMe-cd1wy]

Maybe you should try a Trunk-mat Blitz bed for car for a trailhead sleeping platform for you Subaru. That way, when you get to trailhead late and want to start out in morning, you can sleep in Subaru and then start out in morning.

[@ericb.4358]

TENT-> I much prefer my TARPTENT Moment DW (solo) or "2 1/2 person" Tarptent SCARP 2. For winter use with both tents I bought thicker, stronger poles from Tentpole Technologies. FAST setup with inner tent pre-attached to the fly, good venting, great designs and the absolute best customer service - and made in USA (except the pricey Dyneema tents).

[@derelictxci]

I'd spend a few extra dollars for the Brynje wool version on the mesh base it hold less odor than synthetic, it's awesome. I use it for cycling in winter and summer my back is no longer drenched in sweat.

[@TheBabadush]

I love how you’ve become a durston convert. He’s so good at engineering stuff it’s hard to not want it all

[@billb5732]

Brynje uses Schoeller "Polycolon" polypropylene thread/fabric. Mine doesn't stink -- ever -- unless I stuff it. What do you do with it when not wearing it? Hint: stuffing it into a waterproof bag is the wrong answer. It needs to air out. Personally, I don't take mine off. When I do, I loosely drape it over something. BTW, THANK YOU for all of these pad evaluations. Exped was at the top of my list until this. I can wait until you know what works better. I saw that you liked NeoLoft and ZenBivi elsewhere.

[@DDF1408]

My Brynje gets stinky faster than my pollyprop Lifa but it's mesh construction still makes it worth it

[@brianadventures9622]

Also, your old Subaru is the best!

[@deant.1266]

Thanks for the great video. I was wondering, why the Kakwa 55 and not the Flash 55 for the trip? Mostly interested because I'm looking to replace my pack soon and these are the two contenders.

[@SalesAssistant-c5l]

Wear Fjallraven Anorak no8, goretex is rubbish in winter if it is dry, cold it does not breath like the Fjallraven which I use for skiing and is amazing even better than the softshells out there

[@buranagel7827]

ive used my ultra 7r comfortably down to -27c, it requres a lot of shaking to get the down to spread evenly. also get real vapour barrier socks, theyre like 25€

[@stigfloberghagenphotography]

Nice video and advice 👍🙂❄️

[@DaniDenny29]

I also bought the x-done 1, in fact inserting the poles into the tabs is a problem, they don't fit easily

[@TheAngieStoned]

Have you ever tried those salt stone deodorants? I smashed mine, so I melted it in water, and i keep a tiny spray bottle with me when travelling, and for daily use at home, of course. It kills the smelly bacteria that produce the odour. Might be worth it to carry just a few extra grams.

[@christopherwiebke3578]

Are those boot liners worth ordering? Thanks.

[@DouzeDay]

Hey Justin would the Exped Ultra 3R work well with a quilt during the summer months here in Alberta summers? I just purchased my first quilt and don’t particularly want to order the 5R if the 3R would perform well in July and August here.

[@bushcraftbasics2036]

For hoods for quilts I am surprised no one has made a lightweight copy of the Canadian Army sleep hood that goes with the hoodkess sleeping bag they were using since the '60s. It covers the head, neck and shoulders and held in place with a couplr eleastic strapd. Opening is just over the mouth (eyes are covered) and the whole thing moves with you. Problem is the issue one is made of flannel, quilt batting and robust nylon that us heavy and compacts poorly.

[@Alexhaugs]

If you want the best mesh base layer you need to take a look at aclima woolnet. 90% merino wool, super warm fast drying, comfortable and since it is merino wool there is hardly any smell.

[@JustinOutdoors]

Merino wool is a no-go for me for base layers due to how much moisture it holds on to.

[@Alexhaugs]

@ hmm I use only merino wool because of how effective it at wicking moisture away and because it dries super fast. I use my woolnet in almost all conditions except the warmest summer days. I feel like no matter how much I sweat I’m dry in just a couple of minutes. I use it both on my upper and lower body and hike in Norway with very shifting weather. I have hiked in the same set for up to 8 days without taking it off.

[@fjallife]

Go for ACLIMA WoolNet underlayer. The best in winter 😊

[@seana7251]

@JustinOutdoors thanks for the video and information. I've made a couple gear purchases based on your rec's in the past. Have you looked into using a vapor barrier bag to sleep in under your quilt? Your boy Kane recently did a video on it and proposed that it could save weight over packing a synthetic over quilt. Curious to hear your thoughts if you think it's a worthwhile experiment. Also, do you have a specific formula you use to figure out what temperature ratings to combine with your quilts to cover the coldest temp you'll be facing? Thanks again.

[@joelmiller569]

Can you please do a review on the Gossamer Gear the One?

[@twinartifact263k3]

Where did u get the down pants

[@JarradShaw]

Devin is not a fan of vertical baffle sleep pads, but for its construction, way they installed the insulation and price I think I might get that super bright green 5R. If it gets too cold I’m I do have a closed cell foam pad, but I think the 5R will be plenty warm even in the colder months I am going to be going out (nothing attic temp related where I live). I think too(?) two of them will hopefully fit in the Zenbivy double sleep system and be more comfortable than Zen’s newest options. Justin, what are the light weight gray gloves you are wearing?

[@donniebel]

As one who sweats more than avg, fishnet is the only way to go for me. Nothing else works nearly as well.

[@larsgustavsson2262]

Try the Acclima mesh Woolnet base layer, should stink less :)

[@fredrik920]

For winter camping I would never rely on an airmat only. If it punctures and you can’t fix it you are in big trouble. Just like you layer your quilts you may be better off also layering sleeping pads. A closed cell foam mat under and the airmat on top. You would probably be fine with your 5R down to -30

[@ynotjf]

I just don’t have faith in quilts. Ditch the quilt and carry a good sleeping bag, crushed down is warmer than no down. My WM Terralite is just over 2lbs (6’6” 3oz overstuff) and unzips to doubles as a quilt for warmer nights but zips into a spacious semi-rectangular bag for cold nights. Plenty of room for a bag liner or extra clothes if it’s colder. Remember, your sleeping bag is a survival tool in winter conditions. Be safe and ditch the quilt!

[@nhbsteve]

But have you tried quilts?

[@ynotjf]

@ - Too many “ifs” with a quilt. What if your air mattress fails? What if a sudden drop in temperature and you need every once of warmth a bag can provide, sudden wind storm? What if you get wet and need a bag to warm yourself? A sleeping bag is a survival tool that provides protection no quilt can. Why take the chance? You don’t hike in one boot, why sleep in half a sleeping bag?

[@truepaulesko]

I have the same problem with that lady. I was thinking about putting 100 GR of down inside.... But it's going to be going out when I deflate it ... The problem is that the down moves inside the baffle and it leaves big areas uninsulated. But it's comfortable.

[@truepaulesko]

I have the same problem with that sleeping pad is what I meant to write ... Btw. Inflate it at home, and look through it with a very potent light.... You'll see the down moving inside and you'll find out what the problem is.

[@migranthawker2952]

Putting a simple closed-foam mat between your sleeping pad and the groundsheet will improve the warmth value immensely. Yes, they're bulky, but weigh next to nothing!

[@JustinOutdoors]

Shouldn't have to do that with a winter-rated pad in moderate winter conditions.

[@skidaddledude1997]

I always understood that you must put the plastic bag between your foot and the dock to catch the sweat?