Top Tier Canadian POWER For a Price - Leopard 2A4M CAN - War Thunder

[@leogibney]

As a Canadian, this tank is infuriating for several reasons. Gaijin for some ungodly reason has decided to add Canadian vehicles into THREE DIFFERENT TECH TREES. Therefore it is impossible to bring a Canadian lineup into any game at any BR. But I digress: The 2A4M does not actually carry KE-W, it is more likely to have DM53 that the similar 2A6M CAN got in the early 2010s. But because Gaijin wanted it to be a premium vehicle at a locked BR (to be in line with the Clickbait, OES, etc) they couldn’t give it DM53. So it’s a fake jumble version. The Armour of the 2A4M was also severely nerfed, the composite side skirts and more specifically the added turret cheeks should have similar protection levels comparable to that of the 2A7, no this is not some marketing by Gaijin, in real life the Canadian Army outsourced to a German defense contractor in charge of the 2A7 Appliqué armour and got them to modify their package to put onto the 2A4 chassis and turret. As for the “aesthetic camo net”, that is actually SAAB Barracuda thermal protection, which not only reduces total vehicle thermal loading by upwards of 50%, but it also should reduce the vehicle’s total IR signature. While this does not make the tank “stealth” or “invisible on thermals”, it should reduce the overall thermal contrast of this tank when using IR thermal sights (like on other tanks) With the 2A4M added as a German premium, there is now no hope for a Canadian 2A6M CAN, as Gaijin’s greed has left us Canadians to jump between three different tech trees to play 5 vehicles. God help us all.

[@AXIOSGOD]

People are gonna have to fight hard to bring these changes, it sucks they butchered and rushed out the Leopard 2A4M CAN. It just seems lazy, I would've rathered this as an event vehicle 6 months down the line with more accurate capabilities and unrushed in development. End of the day I'm happy I got a Canadian tank as a Canadian, but it could be a lot better. Again, I hope people put the pressure up on Gaijin to fix this vehicle and if it no longer meets the 11.3 premium criteria just remove it and put something else in it's place like the other CV90105 premium. I can't see why it has to be 11.3 anyways, when in the near future Gaijin is no doubt gonna push the criteria further with 12.3 premium ground vehicles or more.

[@dalekool9975]

The only real canadian lineup you can do requires you to buy the C2A1, and use the cl-13b. So at most you will have 2 canadian vehicles, then some german stuff. And as thats 9.3, you will almost always be uptiered. Why couldnt they just make Canada into the UKs subtree, instead of South Africa?

[@doge_sevens]

yeah im not going to lie, the 2a4m is my favorite leopard 2 so it seriously hurts to see how they gimped the turret face so hard, they added it in its training configuration instead of how it would be in combat, irl they would slide more armor into the turret cheeks and its only empty for extra storage during training.

[@doge_sevens]

@dalekool9975 my "canadian" lineup is 2a6, base 2a4, c2a1, 2a4m and maybe the Leo 1a5 since it's the closest we have in game to the base C2

[@defus6590]

note: gaijin literally said in their preorder devblog that this thing will have similar protection on the turret compared to a 2A7.

[@Simon-tr9hv]

Gaijin literally added like 50 premium in past 6 month, while added some boring copy pasta in tech tree

[@MJA-0330]

It's a business not a videogame

[@Simon-tr9hv]

@@MJA-0330 a business who sell their product to their players in order to gain profit, a business tried their hardest milking money with no regard of their players. NEWS FLASH, PEOPLE ONLY WILLING TO PAY IF THEY FEEL RESPECTED

[@commandervocal3848]

@@Simon-tr9hvwhile I feel you with this, it’s sadly working for them. Like US top tier atm is like 98% premium players in the premium Abrams with the premium Stryker and the F-20 or F4 premium jets ( occasionally accompanied by the premium a-10 or a-6 tram premium)

[@commandervocal3848]

And that is why the US win rate is so god awful, not because of the tanks or jets but the sheer amount of premium players

[@commandervocal3848]

Now I’m not calling out all people who use them because I have some premiums I use too but I have like 9k hours of experience and all my premiums have some sort of close line fillers like light tanks or something

[@matzemaurer3644]

i love the look of the leopard 2a4m

[@leandrogutierrez6535]

A beautiful leopard

[@booblizard104]

Yeah looks awesome.

[@hetznaz7902]

C2 MEXAS, 2A4M and 2A6M all look superb imo

[@yazadkavarana28]

Gaijin did ppl dirty by advertising in dev blog as having composite armour package similar to ones found on 2a7 series tanks but they removed this detail from the dev blog and the armour package itself is nowhere near the ones found on 2a7…its basically just a 2a4 with good thermals and a good round…

[@unlockingsnow73]

No gaijin did dirty marketing that every company does. It's not illegal nor was their statements wrong, they just left it up to interpretation leading people to incorrectly conclude it was like a 2A7 in every aspect. From day 1 if you do your research before buying the 2A4M people could have easily concluded it's similar to the 2PL. At the end of the day it is still a 2A4 chassis and turret with heavy modification. It's however those modifications in question that let's them do the sales pitch they did. The side composite addon armour the 2A4M has was taken directly off the 2A7+ series of tanks KMW was making around 2010. Canada simply bought 2A4s and then had the extra armour upgraded to 2A7+ levels. You can verify this by looking at the side-on protection of the 2A4M in game compared to the older 2PSO. In said comparison the 2A4M has more protection which will make it harder for autocannon apfsds to consistently penetrate whereas the PSO has less protection on the same exact area. (This is due to the PSO having an older version of the side addon urban armour compared to the 2A4M and 2A7+ series tanks).

[@jPlanerv2]

2PL has better turret rolf

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@jPlanerv2 no it does not wtf are you on about

[@wadysawwilkowski2753]

@@unlockingsnow73 v_lkyrie NoodleCup31 1d image As of June 11, unaware of it changed since.

[@leogibney]

To be fair, in real-life, the 2A4M did receive the 2A7’s composite armour package. Whether Gaijin chooses to model said armour accurately is another story entirely.

[@panini9199]

Gaijin said it had similar armor to the Leopard 2A7, so i ordered it, now i have a tank that has bad armor for 70 bucks 😂😊

[@floridamanstrikesagain6915]

Gaijin slowly nailing the knowledge to not get scammed into the players sculls. Hope you learned your lesson.

[@offiver]

why would you even preorder though? you gain nothing lmao

[@yashma4187]

I had the same experience. I wanted the pre-order camo, I need a premium tank to grind high tier Germany....and I'm getting the Leopard PL.....so I thought why not get it to get an 11.3 lineup going. I don't feel "ripped off", but I do feel a little let down

[@ibrahimgp7213]

Its a high skill tank because of its paper thin armor.My recommendation is to get the 2PL which is much better

[@LarsApenstaart]

fun how gajin keeps adding new 'top tier' premium vehicles to countries while france doesnt have any semi-toptier vehicles

[@sarcasualindividual]

I would give gaijin 100$ for a Leclerc ares proto

[@nadjibnour7656]

Flares don't work, hellfire doesn't reach it's target, somehow opponents fixing the barrel in 5 seconds, the leopard 2A7 doesn't get hit on the torrent.. that's what I've noticed so far but i do like the bew crew voices. Good video mate 👍

[@unlockingsnow73]

The Abram's has shells being loaded in the hull before the turret is full The leopards have shells being loaded in the hull ready rack in top to bottom order rather than bottom to top. Some planes with countermeasure pods can't actually use the pods or can't swap the flares to Chaff.

[@knoxvalencia4029]

Imo this is the best looking leopard in the game the camo net and the addon armor really is something

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

So what's next, the Namer 30 or the Desert Warrior?

[@profferoll7119]

Instead of redoing the sound every update they should work on increasing the variety of it. Back then we could call pretty much all vehicles apart by sound

[@doge_sevens]

i cant tell you how annoying it is just how many tanks use the exact same engine sound as the leo 2s

[@ItalianStarAnimations]

Well Justin, lemme tell you, nearing 100k is a big thing :D I have been here for about a year and a half now, love your videos :D

[@Minute_Sniper]

It hurts how weak the turret protection is bth. It's not a bad tank but the paper armor makes it feel a little unworthy to buy in my opinion

[@flirty_thirty]

Yo Justin that casual jet slap at 17:23 was amazing! I watched it like 10 times in a row lmao Great video as always, Might grab the 2A4M once I get Germany up. Still in Rank IV lol

[@pierspinelli8352]

I feel again like a stalker

[@tankman66]

I actually use a sound mod now for the game, it sounds way better than the vanilla game. And I'm not one to usually use mods

[@firegun1540]

Use the German cross decal to cover up the Canadian markings and uninstall the camouflage net to make people think you’re a 2a7

[@macnuke4771]

As a fellow Canadian, I love seeing our vehicles in the tech tree. I do wish they had their own separate line like the South Africans, or other minor nations that are a part of bigger trees. But I digress. I love the 2A4M! It looks cool and is right at home in my 11.3 lineup. I do wish the protection was better and the thermal net reflected more of what we see IRL. But I can't complain too much about it. It's a bit more slugish than the rest of the leopards at it's BR, but it can pull it's weight if you know what you're doing in it. I have been able to survive shots, however it isn't something to be relied on (as players familiar with top tier gameplay should be accustom to at this point). I don't like the KEW shell as I'm not aware of our actually carrying the shell, however it is nice to have and will get the job done. All in all, I'm happy with my purchase. I don't think it's worth the $80 CAD that I paid for it, but I would also like to see more CAF armour in the future.

[@flink_samt_official]

It's a crime that you are under 100k subs!

[@andrewfitzsimmons-evans405]

Played 18 battles in went 38-12 with a 67% win rate. It is a crazy good tank and is probably the best 11.3 tank in the game.

[@alifru]

The spalling on the KE-W is crazy

[@Hierachy]

as an australian, it really annoys me seeing all of the commonwealth nations not in one tree. like our abrams, the cannadian with the RAM tank and most gloriously the bob semple (which should be added) should be in the british tech tree. Yes i know its an 'american vehicle' but its operated by the ADF, not the US army, same for canada, new zealand, etc. historically and presently it makes sense aswell, considering how close our nations are with our shared history. hopefully when they add the Canadian LAV (or its other variants like ASLAV or NZLAV) it goes to the britsh tech tree. also the australian manufactured sabre with the 30mm's would be cool aswell.

[@brhoomr3426]

I guess you didn't know, but the CV90105 got a HUGE BUFF, u should make a video about it !

[@blackop3765]

What was the buff??

[@julianjones1130]

Black night aps sometimes works but not anywhere near like it formally did

[@lelandcheng9187]

They did this tank dirty by making the addon armour in the training condition for the game where the composite filler gets removed to save weight to be less of a strain for the drive train. Crew tend to put extra gear and supplies inside the empty space in the add on armour in this configuration. At least gaijin reflected this by making the tank weigh as if the composite fillers are removed

[@КаркарычВоронов]

17:23 The fact that you killed him with discarding sabot

[@rush_17]

Canadians really got the looks down on this tank... I want it so bad because I'm currently researching leo 2a5 and I don't wanna jump from 10.3 to 11.7 lol.

[@leogibney]

I don’t like how there are three different nations with Canadian vehicles. It’s so fucking dumb. I have the ADATS in Britain, this in Germany along with the C2A1, and all of the lower tier Rams in the USA.

[@eric8031]

I barely unlocked dm53 for the 2a5 now purchased the the 2a6 it sucks we can’t research this vehicle

[@SirHuddy]

@@leogibneywould be nice if they did a commonwealth tree.. Like Australia,Canada,New Zealand etc… I’m Canadian and it hurts to see the trees like this lol

[@booblizard104]

Just pick it up when you unlock 2A5 and join a grind squadron to get 2PL.

[@cyberarchitect9280]

I was and I'm still thinking about buying it since the grind of the top tier vehicles would be easier with a premium since we know the benefits of a premium vehicle. But not just yet reason being I1m not near to that BR, my highest BR tank is the basic Leopard 1, thus if I die which is quite possible since I'm not a good player I have nothing to back it up with. The premium that I currently want to buy is the LeopardA1A1 L44 to grind from 8.0-9.7 and than if I'm done with that I want to buy the PzBtl.....which will be a year....at least. I wanted to buy the PzBtl right away but that would be still to high BR for me plus I could back it up with the L44. Also if you....and anyone has any oppinion about buying the L44 even worth it because I'm still not sure, I'm certain about the PzBtl because that's a spaded 2A4 with premium benefits and I see them quite often, however as I said to high BR for me for now, while the L44 is a Leo1 with a 120mm gun and I don't see that often. Thank you for the video, the vehicle is convincing my skills and the current environment aren't.

[@mcsaar]

For me the last update broke the game, massive freezes and stutters. Sometimes game freezes for 5 seconds and when it unfreezes i have driven out of cover and getting shot.

[@joako2706]

Hey Justin, whenever possible drop a review of the new GIAT Vextra for the suffering French mains.

[@JustinPlaysTV]

It's on the list for sure!

[@joako2706]

@@JustinPlaysTV you are the man in WT for sure.

[@slipskull13]

I wish they would replace bushes with camo netting that you can slide across the surface of the tank. Maybe im underestimating how hard that would be to do but i truly hate the bushes

[@n1co2017]

as a Canadian i am buying this even tho they f***ed it up... really wish it was in the British tree where Canadian vehicles f***ing belong also just saying the constant glitched jet sound while flying props at around 6.7 to 7.7 is terrifying i never know if it's an actual jet sneaking up on me in my 109 or of it's just the bugged sound

[@derritter3873]

I haven’t played a single ground game since the update dropped, and I gotta say, there is a lot of broken stuff. And I mean quite a bit. I’ll play ground after I get the new F-15J and see what’s going on down there.

[@marvinrampf4081]

never seen such a buggy update the worst for me is the not existing sound from like flares, missiles and so on and on the spawning with no flares so broken

[@xMadDonaldx]

The quickest way to get all your Canadian players to spend money on the game

[@drivinggoddiosdeconduccion6231]

I really want it even though I have grinded the entire German tech tree, just to do the 11.3,line up

[@JNBurdo5]

@Justin plays said this last video bit not sure if this is a bug but it says the turret cheeks are rolled homogeneous and not composite screen not sure if that's a bug or if the rha covers the composite screen addon's completely but if there isn't any then it's bugged because irl it had composite screens there.

[@almightytwinkie2171]

FINALLY! Germany feels the American 11.7 experience for the past 2 years!

[@ruansteenkamp4289]

Stock grinding top tier air is horrible at the moment with all the Fox-3's. Wish they made a wholly different br for the Fox-3 capable planes

[@DominickPlays_WT]

I "love" warthunder. . . BUT I miss my tor-m1 missle launch sound :(

[@AnakLuckNutz]

the Leopard has become the Sherman of top tier

[@Optimusprime56241]

I mean it’s one of the most exported tanks irl so it makes sense

[@shadowfax-p3y]

It's Canadian it should be part of British tech tree

[@Ken-no5ip]

Its a leopard made in germany

[@shadowfax-p3y]

@@Ken-no5ip and used by Canadian army lol we have other Canadian vehicles in the British tech tree so they should've put this one there too

[@ILikeTuwtles]

It hurts knowing this has gen 3 thermals when the 2A5, 2A6 and PSO all have gen 1

[@Murpledpc]

I had to uninstall overwolf for my game to stop locking me in gui's. And the sounds in ground are BAD. The new air sounds are ok, but they are LOUD

[@Amirteachingclub]

Justin! I wonder how did you change crew’s language to ENG on a German tank? I would love to change my crews language to ENG just to get help in range finding from my commander! Also I was the one who found you on Ardenes map yesterday when you were playing the 122 B+ and Gripen:)

[@lok777]

Sound setting- crew language

[@Amirteachingclub]

@@lok777thank you!

[@DaOideRassl]

Wait. So the KE-W doesn't bounce anymore but the AMX 50 Surbaissé bounces like hell now?

[@thegreattanker1566]

This tank is lookin kinda buyable ❤

[@luisitosanchez546]

I click the link that u said to buy vehicles , and discounts. It’s only for PC LIKE U SAID ? Or for PS5 users too ?

[@corrodan2995]

The sound design is strange, despite tons video and audio of cannons firing on modern vehicles , they miss the mark repeatedly. They simultaneously lower the volume to make quieter sounds more audible, but also dont accurately represent those sounds with many autocannons sounding exactly the same regardless of design.

So its a 2pl for 70 bucks

[@SekiShiro10]

YES

[@leandrogutierrez6535]

With a better round

[@yazadkavarana28]

Worst actually

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@yazadkavarana28 better

[@sebastian93921]

Better round, worst armour

[@sixofnine9407]

I don't know how many times I have shot dead vehicle, just to make sure, take no chances.

[@bananasplit8563]

could you make a vid about the T-80U drozd? not necceserely soon but anytime this month or year maybe? love your vids btw

[@Frost212]

When shopping for 2a4 premiums, would you buy this or the Pzbtl 123? They're only about 5$~ price difference (non-sale price), so is this worth the extra 5$ and the 1.0 br increase?

[@zinnsoldat6493]

Hell no, German 10.3 br is fantastic, and you have only 2 tanks on 11.3. Maybe if you play 11.7 you would better take new leopard as second spawn .

[@zackerysewell5729]

those shelves ate my dart before the update

[@shadowofbrazil]

How can you lock and track ground vehicles with GBUs? I can’t. It just won’t lock at all

[@jefreyvalle611]

Namer-30 next

[@commandervocal3848]

Hopefully, too bad it’s kinda shit. I don’t understand how they can make it 61 tons (nearly as heavy as Merkava mk4 somehow even though it lacks the turret) with only the same composite armor that’s on the mk4 hull

[@gabrielabreu5200]

They changed a lot of ammo locations inside tanks

[@mapiqnsokolov2985]

Hi mate . Can you make a video about the Vextra :) wonna know your feel about it .

[@jasonrowland4854]

Man yesterday I only had like 2-4 leo2a4m in my games lol

[@wyk3548]

❤️ u Justin 100k soon 🙏

[@MJA-0330]

How the Hell can this get a better APFSDS than the Leo 2 PL and they're at the same BR

[@leogibney]

Because the Canadian Leopard 2A4M is a better tank from a later time period. Battle Rating means nothing in this case, it simply carries a different Sabot.

[@Klulous]

Please play the CV9035, it's what the CV9030 should of been

[@shizukadoitsukitsune1919]

warthunder in 2027 will be more premiums than regular vehicles 💀

[@rudatkatzn9171]

A worthy vehicle... If Gaijin gives out Free Premium Packages to random players again.

[@mujexzilla]

Its absolutely disgusting how dirty Gaijin did all the Abrams tanks in this game. What should be one of the best mbt in the world turns out to be one of the worst. I'm currently grinding out the american tree and am about to enter 10-10.3 and I'm dreading eating shit every time I enter a battle. Also, most if not all the new sound effects sound like complete and utter dogshit. I hope they revert to old ones.

[@hashbrown2911]

The abrams isnt close to the worst mbts they are still better than the majority of top tier tanks, minor nations have worse mbts but have higher win rates its a skill issue

[@warlord-op7bw]

the mig 23 mld has 12 flares and if u dont takr the pod u have none

[@GabrielSchmitt-]

MAKE A VIDEO OF CAS A10 AFTER BUFF IN MAVERICKS

[@vagabundolino]

Gaijin should really fix the sounds

[@kentohamaoka4063]

If it's canadian it should be in the fucking british tech tree.

[@lokikinch]

Been playing this Tank pretty autistically (I'm Canadian) and still yet to see any other 2A4M, seen more Hungarian 2A7's tbh 😂

[@yamatokurusaki5790]

it did be cooler if the bugs werent there and also on both 11.3 Loe the blowout panels doesnt work

[@Mon-W]

I love the Leopard 2A4M CAN but, the front armor is incorrectly modeled... Anyone reading this please go to the war thunder bug reports and click the "I have same issue!" button to make Gaijin fix this.

[@ExploringSitkaAlaskausin-wj4wu]

War Thunder needs to create a 1939-1945 WWII Battle Mode. No cold war tanks allowed. Many of us want the old War Thunder back again. Make War Thunder Great again!

[@whatsaht2117]

They can’t camp your spawn form A btw

[@littletweeter1327]

really hope they make the cages change color with the camo. tan cages on a CARC camo is so lame

[@loading2256]

what do nets do ? they help with thermal or it's only for the look ?

[@JustinPlaysTV]

Just for looks!

[@bharathyadav1589]

They nerfed the mig23.. to the ground it deserves a video justin..

[@RyanRothermel-ix4bx]

Worth buying it for 2A7V?

[@RyanRothermel-ix4bx]

Like grinding?

[@SavgePhantom]

I mean if u have top tier-ish experience and disposable income, go for it. If not, wait a little for smth like a sale.

[@unlockingsnow73]

I'd say so. Make sure you have some experience at top tier or at least be willing and able to learn quickly. Without any experience any vehicle will feel trash. However with said experience this tank looks a solid choice for grinding. Especially if you have the 2PL from squadron research to pair with it. Just remember it's still a 2A4 at the end of the day with more side armour that might only save you from low calibre APDSDS. That all being said the 2A4 Pz Battalion 123 at 10.3 is also a very good option for grinding the tree whilst getting easier matchmaking. You will constantly be uptiered to 11.7 with the 2A4M

[@jovanjeremic9756]

No. Just buy the panzer battalion instead if you're looking for a grinder for Germany cause their 9.7-10.3 lineup is brilliant and it's easier to grind there cause of the amount of premium idiots at that br. None of the new 11.0-11.3 premiums are worth it if you have the option of a 10.0 vehicle as well, cause it's at a less forgiving br and you're just prolonging how long you'll be stuck with 1 vehicle in your lineup.

[@liladoodle]

So are we getting the Vextra 105 next?

[@CasonGault-fz3cl]

I bought it before I found your video I love it thoa

[@aljamoz1591]

Gaijin brok ammo explosive it isnt working

[@stunt95hstdt89]

Its not spawnganky, its just bad map design as you said. It should never be possible to shoot into the spawn from the middle of the map... on any map.

[@WyattChilson]

Leo 2a4M and 2PL should be 10.7 almost any Sabot can pen it 9.0 and up

[@nolan9646]

hi can you play with the Vextra TML 105 at the next video thanks you

[@sesamsenat]

guys do you also think we should get more authentic camouflage not juist bushes what looking like it would grow on the tank i mean a bit more like in real life?

[@Moondoggymungmung]

People getting jebaited by a 70+ dollar premium by preordering just makes me go why why why.

[@xShadow_guy]

I love the new Sound Update Jets sound so good! Tanks are ok!

[@DALONEWOLF108]

I swear I was losing my mind fighting Leo’s with stock leclercs omg I just put in 6 bucks to get the dang darts lmao but I swear rinhave no clue why I wanted to get top tier France but next it’s Sweden or maybe Germany becuz I’m tired of the suffering I need to love myself lmao

[@____END____]

What’s goodie in the hoodie

[@danielpena-un8vl]

I want to buy it but 11.3 is too high of a BR for what it is.

[@hammer43]

What do they do with the damage model of the 2a7 ?

[@niceburger6479]

The spall liners isn't spalling at all now

[@hammer43]

@@niceburger6479 oh! Nice 💀😭

[@Gast_Xsb]

Poor black knight/challenger getting killed 2 times in a row 6:58

[@M4_Soppi_2]

Ooo Canada 🇨🇦

[@MellyMelly7]

Will this ruin top tier German win rate like the click bait?

[@rush_17]

Probably for a bit lol .

[@Sag05501]

As someone who owns it, yeah kinda. 50% of games half the team has left the game before you get to do anything. Otherwise it's not been that bad.

[@hank-609]

German TOP TIER players are usually smarter than russians so probably not that much

[@mich421]

A premium leopard PL

[@evanoconnell9448]

canada is part of the british commonwealth.....so this should be in UK tech, same as m1a1 aim, australia is british commonwealth and belongs in the british tech

[@rxm02trc]

i dont i like the update because it made the graphics a little too unnecessarily high. therefore i cant really play anymore because my pc sucks. i think it’s my bad tho…

[@BioXenoArrow]

The bots, they’re coming…

[@lk_ludikruc8358]

Challengers beibg pathetic disaapiintment. I love how these 65+ton tanks have less armor than a leopard 2A4 that is less than 60... tanks that are known to be tough... merkava and challenger

[@My3lilmonsters]

Rip, i just wish it was 30$

[@Optimusprime56241]

This thing is pretty good and absolutely sexy too lol