FedEx MD-11 Goes Around after Touchdown on the runway!

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[@rebeccalerch3134]

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[@turbofanlover]

Always enjoy seeing the glorious MD-11 in action. :)

[@captainbilly9443]

Flew on an MD-11 from SLC to HNL back in the day. Love that airplane.

[@blairguinea6811]

Love that MD11, thanks guys

[@TheTastyMorsel]

This is absolutely standard protocol for a bounced landing on an MD-11. Notice the front nose wheel was not pushed down. Refer to the lessons learned from the upside down landings that resulted from bounced runway contact with FedEx flights 14 and 80.

[@justplanes]

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[@sonyacarlisle341]

Thanks for explaining this

[@jamesmeyers4641]

This was clearly not a bounced landing. Firm, maybe even hard, but not bounced. The mains were firmly on the ground for several thousand feet and the auto spoilers deployed briefly on wheel spin up before auto stowing as the throttles were pushed up. The pilot flying initiated a rejected landing shortly after touchdown possibly due to touching down with too much airspeed to comfortably stop in the runway remaining.

[@gendaminoru3195]

@@jamesmeyers4641 this is the real reason for the go around.

[@lbowsk]

@@jamesmeyers4641 What bounce?? That was firm, not a bounce. James is on to something.

[@Spyke-lz2hl]

The go around was initiated prior to touchdown most likely. Once you start it, you continue with it even if you hit the ground during the go around. It’s possible it was for a windshear warning, a high sink rate, or something of that sort. Who knows, but because the spoilers didn’t deploy at all after touchdown, my assumption is that the thrust levers were already set for the go around, thus no spoilers.

[@12345fowler]

Actually you can see the spoiler starting to raise then immediately close. Usually when initiating a go around you do so by first rising the nose to establish a climb attitude AND hit TOGA at the same time. Here I didn't see any rise or pitch up prior to touchdown so to me the decision to go around is exactely at the point of spoiler retraction, not before. Why I have no idea. SOP is you can initiate go around unless you pull the reversers out.

[@FernGullyandtheLastKlumous]

Check the trees in the foreground for wind, also you can hear it gusting in the recording.

[@wickedsick9552]

@@12345fowler Note: If you Go Around at very low altitude (=balked landing), you have to maintain pitch and not rise the nose, else you risk a tailstrike. This may result in a short touchdown which is perfectly safe.

[@rchrd_sn]

​@@12345fowler That's what it looked like to me as well. Maybe the captain was alarmed by how strong it hit the pavement. Maybe the noise was strong and he was concerned something could have been damaged, and went for a go around in order to check things. Or, he was just not pleased with the touchdown and wanted to do better (in case there's some plane spotter around...).

[@tonamg53]

@@12345fowler Do that and you’ll risk the plane stalling. Never ever increase your pitch before increasing your engine thrust. Always control the attitude with your engine and the speed with your pitch. For example, want to establish climb attitude, do that by first increase the engine thrust and then pitch control to capture the desire airspeed. Btw, this one definitely go around when the spoiler retract otherwise it wouldn’t deploy at all.

[@elizabethcarlson1321]

That happened on a Southwest flight to Milwaukee a few years ago. We were landing in a thunderstorm. I knew that it was going to be a difficult approach. Just before we touched, I could see that we were NOT aligned with the runway. We had main gear solid on the ground, but no nose gear. I was just rushing through my mind that "This is not good!" He went to full power, and we took off, by now almost off the side of the runway. We got airborne and went for an additional 15 min flight while the storm cleared the airport. As we were getting off, I nodded to the captain, and said, "Nice touch and go!" The other pilot and the head steward just broke out laughing.

[@rickbanet4830]

Short of a fuel emergency, there is absolutely no reason to try to save a landing where you do not feel comfortable with stopping on time. Go around and try again.

[@JungleYT]

So, what do you think made Papa go around?

[@vikkimcdonough6153]

I can think of a second reason - if you hit windshear that's bad enough that you won't be able to maintain obstacle clearance during a go-around.

[@Nobilangelo]

Captain: 'Let's do a special one for "Just Planes".' F/O, 'Sure!'

[@wickedsick9552]

I can assure you that Captains aren't the better landers

[@oneclaypole]

I recall coming in to land at Singapore. The plane was rocking dramatically. My seat was near the wing and I remember watching the wing tip rise and fall 20-30 feet, thinking this was not good, feeling uneasy. Within a few feet of touchdown, the pilot applied max thrust and aborted the landing. He did a large circle and came in to land from the opposite direction which thankfully he did quite safely and far less dramatically

[@justplanes]

Sounds like these things are more enjoyable seen from the ground rather than being on the plane :)

[@Sterlingkataadem]

Better to go around than push a bad position. Well done.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

this was literally a plane of rubber dog shit (potentially) out of HK .... lol

[@rontiemens2553]

@@ghostrider-be9ek literally-potentially. Got it.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

@@rontiemens2553 'could have been' a cargo plane of rubber dog shit out of HK

[@captnamanbharti]

May be they forgot my package that's why getting back to it.

[@justplanes]

👍

[@grahamknowles759]

Watching this it seems a bit dramatic to "fly around", but then I read about FedEx Flight 80 crash at Narita. Now I understand. Nice to see an MD11, FedEx and Sydney all in one video.

[@atkinsb142]

I was thinking the same thing. Terrible accident.

[@JungleYT]

Yeah, was thinking about that Japan incident as well...

[@pigybak]

That touch and go was a KC-10 pilot who forgot he was not in a KC-10 that day🤓

[@justplanes]

hahaha 👍

[@flywithKV01]

One of the my favourite channel 😊😊😊

[@wendyraymond1751]

Glad landed ok in the end great footage thanku so much love and God bless x

[@justplanes]

Thanks Wendy

[@wendyraymond1751]

@@justplanes my pleasure x

[@ciprianchirilov1039]

Miss the tri jets

[@justplanes]

For sure! Although MD11 freighters will still be around for a while hopefully

[@mremerge]

Windshear alarm went off, by rule they have to go around. This was noted in the other video from this location.

[@justplanes]

Makes sense

[@gendaminoru3195]

@@justplanes Why would that make sense after you're already down?

[@tomlee7956]

@@gendaminoru3195 It is possible they had already initiated the go around prior to landing and touched down in the process of going around.

[@gendaminoru3195]

@@tomlee7956 listen to the video and watch the spoilers and get back to us

[@gendaminoru3195]

@@kevindoran4938 yeah like they ran out of runway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@coldude2559]

Goes without saying guys...bloody good job !!!

[@justplanes]

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[@omarijoseph3189]

that was incredible..WOW!!

[@justplanes]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@photopulse321]

I love the MD11

[@justplanes]

Great airplane, perhaps more to watch from the outside than inside.

[@dougchew5193]

All the pilots that flew them loved them too from what I hear

[@platec4798]

FedEx cares more about the on time delivery of their customers parcels than some airlines care about their passengers and the timely arrival of their flights and lost luggage. Plate C

[@Crazy--Clown]

Freight Dogs

[@flynomo]

And when they lose your passport and won't even talk to you about it? They are sooo overrated.

[@THEjasonTDI]

60% failure rate to deliver overnight from WI to 35 miles north of Philly overnight is not good service for $106 and a 5lb box. That's 2-3 packages a month for the past 5 years.

[@worldofz00]

USPS, UPS, and FedEx have their good and bad days along with their employees. Imo, wouldn’t place any one higher than the other.

[@PetrolHeadBrasil]

Probably "windshear" warning!

[@raymondpalaz5355]

Captain needed 3 take off and landing within the last 90 day. That the law !!!! 😂

[@justplanes]

hahaha right Raymond

[@ajdijkvan7831]

Ohh Wow......you don't want to miss this video JP.....!! Very special.....Thx! Nice day......X Betsy......

[@justplanes]

Ya not often does a plane touchdown and then go around... but it happens. We filmed one in London a year or so ago. Unless off course they're training for this in which case it happens.

[@ajdijkvan7831]

@@justplanes ....Nice to read your reaction JP;)) Thanks......have a great week! X Betsy.....

[@tarekbahsoun2755]

I learned 1 thing when I was a student pilot"if you're not sure or not comfortable with your landing, go around"

[@737driver]

You learned just that? Boy, must’ve been a lousy flight school… 😜 JK

[@tarekbahsoun2755]

@@737driver 🤣🤣🤣not only one thing. It's a bad translation from French.

[@David.176]

That’s called a touch and go, haha 😂

[@justplanes]

Right when its planned it is

[@cariza5]

Is this Sydney KS

[@justplanes]

Sydney, yes

[@cariza5]

@@justplanes Thanks

[@signature1990]

So this was filmed in lock down...?

[@paulvincent3410]

Where is the MD-11's APU exhaust pipe?

[@ml9849]

Beneath the horizontal stabilizer (elevator).

[@robertupton3713]

On the Aircrift Rt.

[@marvabaker961]

Witnessed this in Corfu Greece a few years ago.Scary to see, but landed well elsewhere. We all thought wrong Airport.

[@justplanes]

haha ya Corfu isn't the longest runway and a mountain not too far away from the airport either.

[@747heavyboeing3]

Long landing became a touch and go.

[@edwardbennett2312]

Go around initiated with a sudden touchdown only 500 feet down the runway…at the very beginning of the touchdown zone. Could be a bad outcome from a “bounced” landing. Very good call by crew!

[@jjaus]

Nice vid! I'm confused about the go-around. There were no spoilers. Did they forget them?

[@AmjadKhan-cb4zv]

Job monk jb

[@AmjadKhan-cb4zv]

Old

[@AmjadKhan-cb4zv]

Jn

[@BIOHAZARDXXXX]

They deployed for a second and stowed automatically when go-around power was applied

[@Ian_Cheesy]

There was spoilers actually, but they put the spoilers back to it’s place for a second there and then performed a go around. I’m pretty sure it could be that the landing was too hard and was late on touchdown, or something else.

[@jamesaaronmanarang]

Love it!! 🇵🇭

[@justplanes]

Great

[@brianocean5756]

What airport is this

[@781David]

Sydney Australia. YSSY

[@brianocean5756]

@@781David thank you

[@Gardis72]

Any reason for the go around? It seemed like a normal landing to me.

[@justplanes]

I think they weren't stable so to be safe they went around...

[@mitseraffej5812]

MD11 is a good looking airplane but I am told the DC10 was much better behaved.

[@kensoran0013]

Wait what airport is this again?

[@dmedlin8118]

Needed one more takeoff/landing in the logbook!

[@ShahnewazYT]

What was the reason for the Go Around?

[@joelt4416]

The MD-11 is not an easy aircraft to land. Very complicated, especially in windy conditions.

[@ronaldcuieii4775]

Very sharp.

[@justplanes]

👍

[@brianocean5756]

I thought md 11 are retiring

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Looking very nice.

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Yes, my former airline use to fly the DC-10s. The DC-10 flew really nice. I had done many Chicago west coast flights. Great aircraft they were to fly with the passengers.

[@petertarantelli]

Interesting that the second landing touchdown point was MUCH further down the runway that the first.

[@justplanes]

Good point

[@mattbrown4269]

Anybody else think “FedEx Express” is pretty funny? “Federal Express Express” … 🤪🤪🤪

[@utbobmem]

They changed the corporation name to FedEx to include all FedEx companies. So the express division of the company became FedEx Express. Also includes FedEx Ground and FedEx Office.

[@mattbrown4269]

@@utbobmem Dude. I know. Let loose and be a language nerd for a sec.

[@bonbondesel]

The first touch down was strong and early. It was a very short one. Not 50 feet above the threshold. But it looked like they safely landed anyway. Does anyone know why they did a go around ?

[@nathanmarkovski9301]

Sydney, Australia!

[@benclark3621]

That pilot in command paid attention during the MD-11 "Bounce Recovery Training". MD-11s are notoriously difficult to land due to their high approach speed, design, and typically heavy landing weights, and after the second FedEx bounce/crash in Japan the industry basically came out and said forget trying to salvage the landing, if you bounce you TOGO and try it again, and this wasn't quite a "bounce" but it was a hard enough touchdown that the pilot made the right decision to scrap the landing and try again.

[@justplanes]

Yes very true Ben

[@micke6661]

Windshear Just as they cross the threshold at SYD.

[@ganntradingsystemstimecycl2783]

Sydney, good spot.. Seeing the Qantas planes in the background, knew was somewhere in Australia..

[@ryzlot]

He forgot to arm the spoilers - no deployment JR

[@justplanes]

👍

[@deanc.5984]

Landing was good, speed not excessive, touchdown at correct place in runway, I think they could stopped🤣😳👍

[@ronaldoferreiraoliveira]

Very good video

[@justplanes]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@tritontransport]

I’m a bit confused as to why they did a go around? What was the reasoning for it?

[@NathantheGreat428]

It looked like it was way off the center line

[@laulpoecken]

You can see how they bounced a little after first touch down on main gear. That was the reason for the go around, pretty standard procedure in the MD11. FedEx flight 80 had similar conditions, bounced and then hit nose gear first which caused the plane to turn upside down and crash. The pilots here faced a bounce as well but reacted perfectly be keeping the nose up and going around immediately instead of slamming it down possibly being really dangerous.

[@laulpoecken]

@@NathantheGreat428 I guess that was not the reason, see my other reply here

[@tritontransport]

@@laulpoecken could be . I don’t know. I watched it quick on a small screen on the phone so it was a bit grainy to see if they bounced much or were off center . Didn’t look that bad from a small screen

[@laulpoecken]

@@tritontransport yeah it's quite hard to actually notice. It's clear tho that this was a pretty hard landing. Just look up FedEx Flight 80 and then you'll see why they immediately went around to prevent an actually dangerous situation. It could have all ended well too without the go around but from the cockpits perspective it's really hard to actually see how drastically you bounce. And at that point it's just Safety first. I'd rather pay for a little more fuel than crash the whole plane. They did a great job.

[@johnkeim3836]

First landing to early second landing just on time

[@edhorton2766]

Better safe than wrong.

[@williamcortes1552]

Pilot just wanted to do a touch and go. It looked like there was no reason to go up again.

[@jaycurtis7093]

Is this why every single fed-ex package coming to me is late and/or lost?

[@imbombayboy]

Which airport is this?

[@CaptYoo]

Looks like Sydney(YSSY)

[@captnamanbharti]

Sydney International Airport (YSSY)

[@imbombayboy]

@@CaptYoo Ohh Thanks mahn!!

[@us1fedvet]

Good looking aircraft, still gets it done well.

[@justplanes]

Sydney Australia

[@rebeccalerch3134]

Love 💕 DC-10 MD

[@justplanes]

Yes for sure

[@muhammadaqielamsyar6803]

MD 11 : I miss the ground..🤭🤗

[@justplanes]

:)

[@basfinnis]

Ooh, wonder why he baulked the landing?

[@SnaxDesAvions]

because the MD-11 is known to be a more difficult aircraft to handle than the others, known for many crashes for its configuration

[@justplanes]

Wasn't really stable on touchdown so better be safe than sorry

[@justplanes]

True

[@miguelbarrero5572]

It appears to me the plane was flying way too fast before landing ???

[@johnnyneverletmedown53]

That is the MD 11 landing profile. Very fast compared to a 777, A330 or 747 even.

[@pogmothoin1342]

And that's why pilots like flying cargo planes, cause cargo doesn't Scream.

[@AndrewLumsden]

That's why my parcel was late! 🙄🤣

[@miguelbarrero5572]

Only by a few minutes

[@lffit]

My son took the very last KLM flight on one to Montreal.... asked him what he thought, noisy he said

[@johnhetherington8830]

Just like their van drivers

[@lffit]

I liked this plane, travelled on one with Philippine Airlines Manilla to Australia, the centre row seats were raised sightly above the isle, another was the DC1O went to France on many and to the US with Continental; then moving on to later to the 747's, Shame the Swissair one crashing in Canada because of an overheating electrical circuit, due to the entertainment system.

[@justplanes]

👍

[@fbello18]

This is called “Roling take off” - my father always (when possible) did it.

[@blueb0g]

No it isn't

[@EvanAviator]

it’s a touch and go

[@michelle7352]

I think he's talking about the end of the video where there was no stop and runup at end of runway before takeoff.

[@justplanes]

The initial view is a go-around or could be called a touch and go as well...

[@fbello18]

@@blueb0g - Yes it is ! The last video is a MD-11 taxing and it begins its run without stoping in the begining of runway - this is called ‘roling take off”, well, that’s how my dad spoke. Most of the time the controllers say - “Position and hold rnw X”, so is not possible to perform a roling take off !

[@countdracula7235]

Anyone know why he went around after a full touchdown ?

[@ganntradingsystemstimecycl2783]

If I was to guess, say wind shear..

[@paulvanobberghen]

Spoilers not armed?

[@georgeconway4360]

My guess is they were armed. They will not extend if #2 throttle is not at idle.

[@randypoitras6220]

Oops! Just a few thousand dollars of fuel wasted!

[@rontiemens2553]

Why did he have to go around? Touch down too far past piano keys?

[@kittipasswasinarom5369]

No NO NO !! that was hard and not acceptable ...I want to go around!! and do the better one !!!

[@ALLiiive]

Exactly what I saw

[@justplanes]

:)

[@justplanes]

👍

[@jameskonzek8892]

It looked like he had plenty of runway.

[@jamesstephenpeyton3305]

Just a training touch and go.

[@lugash4]

Looked a little unstable on the approach....gusty winds....maybe pilot flying not happy with the roll out and the speed of the deceleration....possible tail wind on the ground???

[@justplanes]

Yes that's how I saw it too!

[@laulpoecken]

You see how they bounced a little after first touch down on main gear. That was the reason for the go around, pretty standard procedure in the MD11. FedEx flight 80 had similar conditions, bounced and then hit nose gear first which caused the plane to turn upside down and crash. The pilots here faced a bounce as well but reacted perfectly be keeping the nose up and going around immediately instead of slamming it down possibly being really dangerous. I guess tail wind and rollout distance was not too much the problem here

[@lugash4]

@@laulpoecken Oh ok

[@rebeccalerch3134]

Why’s did it Land and return

[@captnamanbharti]

That's touch and go procedure, if the pilot is not able to land properly and after take off prepare for another landing.

[@rebeccalerch3134]

@@captnamanbharti Thank for sharing your knowledge.

[@justplanes]

Wasn't stable on touchdown and to be safe he decided to go around and make another landing

[@rebeccalerch3134]

@@justplaneslove hearing from you 💕JUST PLANE ✈️. CHECK IN W

[@tonyf9076]

The World on....not this time !!!!

[@justplanes]

hahaha

[@PKBRYAN21]

MANNNN!! during the 1st landing(go around cycle)the pilot doesn't even TOUCH the front gear...that's amazing but MD-11 goes HArd fly haRD..😒😭😉❤

[@justplanes]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jonathancschwarz]

I still do not understand why he or she had to go around

[@scubasteve7303]

How much longer do you think FedEx will fly the MD-11 before replacing them with modern twins?

[@EvanAviator]

They don’t have any replacement plans as of now

[@justplanes]

Hopefully no time soon, its lovely to see those planes in action

[@justplanes]

Thats good news

[@flag4070]

Ouch!!!

[@justplanes]

:)

[@winstonchurchill3597]

First landing looked fine to me, but whatever.

[@georgeconway4360]

Te first touchdown was short, about 500’ from the threshold, normal is 1000’-1500’. Looks like they started the go around prior to that first touchdown. If #2 throttle has been pushed forward the Auto-Spoilers will not extend with main wheel spin up . If they have extended they will retract with #2 forward. BTW FedEx had a MD11 Captain whose actual name was Winston Churchill and he could pass for the P.M. in appearance.

[@winstonchurchill3597]

@@georgeconway4360 True was a little short of touchdown zone, so perhaps they had already started the go around and just followed through with it. Guess all that really matters is they arrived safe and sound.

[@fatimahrabah9201]

Aborted landings were always scary to me. I would see them at Stapleton Airport. Annnd as for the DC-10, oops I mean MD-11, I Love that airplane.

[@justplanes]

Yes true and true

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Hi and do you mean the old Stapleton Denver Airport? Has the Denver Housing Authority turned that whole old airport land in housing and shopping malls there? It has been a few years since I had a layover there in the old Stapleton Airport area!

[@grandcrappy]

Stapleton was there when I lived in Littleton. I remember the whine of turbo jets

[@LMays-cu2hp]

@@grandcrappy That was good you were there. Continue to hope that the town homes and other mall stores have been built. Now, what I have not been on is the new train system that runs from the downtown city area to the newer Denver International Airport. I use to layover in downtown Denver many times and my crew would always be driven to our downtown layovers. The Hyatt or Marriott Hotel there is and was nice.

[@grandcrappy]

@@LMays-cu2hp Highlands Ranch WAS an open field, 26K acre ranch. That is fricken unimagibeable now, all high-end homes.

[@jim374]

I always thought that the speed barkes deployed automatically via a sqaut switch on mains. They did not deploy on the 1st landing but they did on the 2nd. Or perhaps the nose gear is also part of the squawt switch sequence. Me don't know for sure. Ot they were not armed.

[@brsl1011]

I thought that too, but at 0:23 they deploy for a brief instant and retract because of what I can only assume was the go around sequence

[@georgeconway4360]

Speed Brakes deploy in the air, spoilers extend on the ground with main wheel spin up, fully extend with nose gear compression if the Auto-Spoilers were armed and the #2 Throttle has to be at idle. When #2 is out of idle all retract.

[@theothertroll]

That was so exciting I pooped my pants a little 😱

[@DAViDD767]

There go the bonuses, damn, the wife will not be happy.

[@justplanes]

:)

[@JCrook1028]

Not true at all. The correct decision was made to go around. Forcing a bad landing it was hurts.

[@DAViDD767]

@@JCrook1028 That's the point, shouldn't be a bad landing to begin with, anyways, don't take the comment seriously, suppose to be a laugh out of it, LOL!

[@rd4660]

Reminds me our our landing at SAN last month. We had to endure THREE go arounds, finally sticking it on the fourth attempt. The pilot tried blaming the tower for spacing us too close, but it was 10 pm at night with little traffic!! And yep, as we were deplaning the pilots kept the cockpit door closed in shame.

[@simply_tom]

I'm sure you'd prefer the pilots going around as opposed to some sort of dangerous incident occurring. Shaming pilots for going around causes accidents in itself.

[@justplanes]

Landing on a 4th attempt... Don't think I've ever heard that because of ATC... weather maybe but this seems very weird...

[@justplanes]

Good point

[@johnnyneverletmedown53]

Whining from someone who doesn't get it.

[@benlecluyse]

😎

[@justplanes]

👍

[@JoeRogansGutBiome]

This is not real. These are graphics from a game or simulator. You can tell because there is no shine or reflection on the airplanes or any other vehicle. The camera is also perfect and does not miss a beat.

[@justplanes]

Sorry to disappoint you my friend but its real... no graphics can come up with this 👍

[@Bolivar2012able]

?????????????

[@ЕвгенийКукелев]

Обратил внимание Фэдекс довольно часто, козлят на посадке, возможно экипажи, достаточно много летают, на послеполëтный отдых, мало времени дают. Это чисто мои предположения

[@PMJ4]

Quite agree 🤔🤔

[@justplanes]

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[@paulojosedesouza3964]

👍🇧🇷

[@justplanes]

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[@lalski08]

Still got a load of Chemtrails to dump

[@gabrieldesamarmo676]

Ll

[@АртёмХуршудян-ч9в]

🌷🌷🌷🌷👍💞👍❤❤❤

[@justplanes]

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[@franklinpierce2854]

Not much of a story.