K2 - Traum und Schicksal (Teil 3)

[@wolfgangschwarz4353]

Diemberger war einer der besten und erfolgreichsten Höhenbergster seiner Zeit. Bauer Willi war mit ihm beim Abstieg vom K2 zurück ins Leben an seiner Seite. Willi Bauer war der härteste von allen und Kurt Diemberger konnte so auch überleben. Meine mir alle bekannten Freunde aus Oberösterreich die nicht mehr zurückkehrten, waren ebenso die besten ihrer Zeit. Mit Kurt Diemberger und auch mit Bauer Willi war ich in den Bergen unterwegs: Mit Kurt an der Brenvaflanke am Mont Blanc und mit Willi an einem 7000er im Hindukusch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emSnm5utqr1jos0 Danke für das für mich besonders wertvolle Material! Danke! Weiter so...

[@danielstau6592]

Die 8000er alle zu überleben ist sehr schwierig. Hab höchsten Respekt vor jedem der über 5000er geht. Für mich wäre das zu Riskant weil der Berg ab dieser Höhe mit entscheidet ob ich überlebe und die Gezeiten . Lieber unter 5000 bleiben und jederzeit abbrechen können mit Heli im Notfall . Hat mit Alpinismus nichts zu tun verständlich

[@retoklauser5906]

Ich sah diese beeindruckende Doku ca. Anno 89 auf VHS. Ich war da 9 Jahre. Wirkt bis heute

[@martynilsson4731]

Beeindruckend, hier die realen Bilder der tragischen Ereignisse und die Gesichter der Akteure zu sehen, nachdem ich das gleichnamige Buch von Kurt Diemberger schon vor vielen Jahren gelesen habe.

[@drbest87]

Ein großartiges Buch. Ich musste es mehrfach lesen, weil es so fesselnd war.

[@1q2w3e4r5t6zism]

Wie kann man im Wissen des zerstörten Lagers den Aufstieg wagen?

[@Cancun771]

5:04 "We had already experienced many avalanches this summer. Of all those avalanches, it was a complete coincidence that we were able to shoot this gigantic one on film. I was thrilled to have captured this spectacle of nature. But this avalance started an unimaginable tragedy whose scenes and acts went on to write themselves from this moment on, fateful, cataclysmic. "It had thundered down from the upper section of the Abruzzi spur, at a time when none of us had even been on the steep mountain slope." 5:54 "A few days later, we found this crushed tea pot in the snow that was packed in the runout zone. Scratched and bearing all the marks of a gigantic, icy avalanche. Julie found a thin inscription, lightly scratched into the sheet metal: 'Mandi'. The name of an Italian? Some Austrian's nickname? "On the same day, we had also found an Austrian sweater nearby. The tea pot belonged to Manfred Ehrengruber, the sweater was Willi Bauer's. All these things had been in their camp 4, at an elevation of 7,750 meters. The avalanche had destroyed the Austrian camp 4 and swept the supplies all the way down here."

[@seriosernutzer8351]

Du lädst echt tolle Reportagen und Filme hoch. Dein Kanal ist superb. Liebe Grüße

[@bergfilmkanal]

Vielen herzlichen Dank! Weiterhin gute Unterhaltung auf dem Kanal... Beste Grüsse

[@ck23j]

Ein Leben am seidenen Faden.

[@danielstau6592]

Für mich definitiv nichts. Ich will noch auf einige Berge und Expeditionen. Aber wenn das Wetter und Lawinen darüber entscheiden ob ich das überlebe ist für mich eine Grenze überschritten. Sobald Glück ein Faktor ist. Trotzdem Respekt vor den Bergsteigern es muss auch Leute gegeben die Menschliche Grenzen überschreiten.

[@Cancun771]

7:17 "Julie and I packed our things, sorted out bins and backpacks for the trek back. We still wanted to shoot some more film. And the summit? I still had not given up on it. I did not know what Julie wanted. We are a team but everybody has to make that kind of decision for themselves. I thought maybe one of us could take the summit for the both of us. Maybe Julie decided only now, in that moment, to go along. I do not know. Only when we reached the foot of the mountain, she told me that she wanted to try once again. We had a silent contract that neither of us would ever urge the other if he or she felt they did not want to go up. But in the end, we did start out together, on the path to the summit of the mountain of our dreams."

[@Cancun771]

8:11 "This was the critical camp situation on the Abruzzi Spur: red the Austrian camps, yellow - the Korean ones. The avalanche had wiped out the Austrian camps 3 and 4."

[@Cancun771]

15:21 On August 4, we then started with seven people. Soon, there were only six of us left, as Hannes Wieser felt already after a hundred meters that he did not want to go on any more but return to the tent. The weather was fine in the morning, two other expeditions made the summits of other 8,000ers nearby. So initially, it still looked as though everything could go great.

[@cv507]

16:40 danke. messnärr beim Filmmähn? ? vfo can hyde incide a klaut -dave paulidiss??

[@Cancun771]

13:15 "You need to realize that there was no unified leadership up there. We were just a bunch of people, thrown toghether by chance. A loosely knit community where everybody was of course ready to help each other out in an emergency. But there was no emergency at this point. And so it is no surprise that a big argument broke out. The Austrians had assumed they could make the summit and then get back down to camp 3. But now that they had not made the summit, they did not want to go back down again that far. Their goal was now to start another attempt. The others felt though that the Austrians should descend, and made no secret of it. The underlying reason was that overcrowding a tent ahead of a summit attempt is _really_ bad. You can't sleep, it is too cramped, people keep shifting. You get no rest and your condition deteriorates."

[@Cancun771]

6:48 "The Austrians listened to our conjecture but refused to accept that their camp 3 had very probably also been destroyed. They did not believe it. The altimeter indicated a favourable weather change to Willi Bauer. He signalled to start the last possible summit attempt this summer."

[@Cancun771]

11:36 "Hannes Wieser reaches our camp. He wants to carry on after a short break. We offer some tea. Later, in the intermediate camp at 7,000 meters, we offer to give him our back-up tent, a tiny bivouac sack-tent. But Hannes just laughed it off. Everything had been cleared with the Koreans already. He just asked us for gas, a cooker and provisions. We gave that to him and he went on."

[@Cancun771]

9:50 "Above us, at over 7,000 meters, the gigantic ice barrier. The weather gets better. Now, everybody had to face the hard and fast truth: both camps 3 and 4 had been destroyed. Like a miracle, one of the Korean tents was still standing. Via radio, the Austrians ask the Koreans to allow them to use it. In return, they would carry it up to 8,000 meters for a summit attempt, for the Koreans to reclaim it afterwards. The Koreans agree. "The Austrians were just one day ahead. Everything had to go as planned from that point on for this to work. Sadly nothing went to plan any more. And then fate sent the storm. A deadly outcome for five people - Julie, Alan Rouse, Rufka, Alfred Imitzer, Hannes Wieser."

[@Cancun771]

14:25 "A compromise was finally reached. The Koreans agreed to share with two Austrians. The third one squeezed into Alan Rouse's tent. The result was that Alan couldn't sleep all night and was not able to summit the next day. Another result was that Julie, who had been overjoyed that her compatriot was trying for the summit, now also lost all enthusiasm. And after the Koreans had a very late start, I myself was also no longer ready to go to the summit that day. So, four of us lost their summit day, August 3."

[@TheSmashingDoc1]

eine lawine zerstört ein lager fast unterm gipfel?

[@cv507]

ja gern naht vv

[@TheDailyWipeout]

C4 und C3

[@Cancun771]

12:25 "By now, the Austrians had carried the Korean tent up to 8,000 meters. From there, they wanted to start the summit attempt right away. We others moved up after them. Alan Rouse and Rufka, Julie and me carry heavy backpacks with everything we need, and our own tents. The Koreans also reach the shoulder and find their tent at 8,000 meters. The Austrians climb up to 8,400 meters and fix many ropes for the Koreans to use. The Austrians could still have made the summit but would then have had to bivouac. It is too late. The snow is deep and wet. They turn around, the attempt has failed. But by now, the borrowed tent is occupied by the Koreans themselves."

[@jay-ur1mj]

wie laut soll das Universum noch schreien Stop....

[@fardaieIran]

wie alt ist dieser Film ?

[@bergfilmkanal]

Der Filminhalt ist aus dem Jahre 1986, soweit ich weiss. Der Film wurde 2009 produziert und 2013 gab es eine neue Version davon, diese wurde hochgeladen.. Beste Grüsse.

[@cv507]

höheneffekte /? sauerstoffmannGel thermik (hypothermie?) abgesehn von problemen anderer die upFärben und natirrläch? schwörkräft -.- ps könnz ör prö$€?? ^ ^

[@gordonlgb]

Für den toten Freund macht es keinen Unterschied, wenn man weitergeht. Die Situation lässt sich nicht mehr ändern.