2 failed controllers in 700 miles is actually insane. I would be livid and have zero confidence riding it after that. Kaabo needs to get their sh*t together
@RollOutPEV2 ай бұрын
Hay man, you own a bunch of scooters too. They have their problems after a while... I've now learned how to "pace" myself better when riding the GTR and this 3rd controller seems to be working as it should but yea... They gotta work on that one specifically lol
@lamarwilliams1856 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review. People do a review and send it back. Long term reviews are needed.
@frostoshi14 күн бұрын
Sell it, or throw that shit away bro!!!
@chrisl683517 күн бұрын
Controller wires are thin and they heat up quickly, which causes them to burn out. It’s a easy fix. Just need to get thicker wires on all your gear accessories.
@tonygarcia95965 ай бұрын
Bearings look like they are sticky. They could be damaged. Needs greasing. I'll change that out. Looks like the GTR doesn't have a reputable product as they review it to be.😮
@resksmith82656 ай бұрын
I have a Blade mini after a 1000 miles still running strong only had a flat tire issue but so far i would reccomend blade scooters and also buy another one
@Ro.T5602 ай бұрын
Thank god your tires did not seized up at 60 mph. This video help a lot when deciding to purchase my first scooter. Been thinking about going with a dualtron.
@dinachoueiry60736 ай бұрын
I am confused on the seize motor. Because there no breaking power in the motor…. Just the breaks itself. Maybe his abs went on?
@SSpecialDelivery6 ай бұрын
Think of it like Regen stuck on max basically
@dinachoueiry60736 ай бұрын
@@SSpecialDelivery yea didn’t know wolf king had regen breaking. That for sure it. Thought it didn’t have it. It why I was confused.
@michaelmcmahan21012 ай бұрын
@@dinachoueiry6073it does not have regen braking.
@michaelmcmahan21012 ай бұрын
@@SSpecialDeliverythat would make sense if it had regen.
@imbusylad1302 ай бұрын
@@michaelmcmahan2101iT dOeS HaVe rEgEn
@jasondowling92965 ай бұрын
I put 1000 km on my Apollo Pro and I’ve been thinking about selling it for a Wolfe king. After 1000 km it has shut down twice mid ride. Both times I shopped it and the tec found there was water under the deck IP66 rating my butt. The apollo team told the technician to just dry the water on the battery under the deck seal it up and give it back to the customer even after the technician told them there’s a problem with the gasket. so they don’t stand behind their product and now I have to replace the entire front suspension and fork assembly which is about $400 for the part plus labour to install because it bent and making a clicking noise in the stem when i turn like yours causing it to catch making it difficult to turn. I only ride on streets (not off-road)
@TheCylonBomb6 ай бұрын
Thunder 3 rider here from NY. Some of first things a lot of riders out here do is change the breaks and tires. Most go with Magura mt5 or mt7 or just get better quality pads. I went with aftermarket pads for the Nutt 4 piston breaks. PMT tires are also the go to because they are made of rubber and not nylon like stock tires. I run 11" slicks in a 40 front 41 rear configuration. Kinda sucks that these parts arent better quality but most breaks they put on a mid to low grade mountain bike breaks not made of the weight of rider + scooter + speed. PMT tires are just flat out amazing and id say is a go to for most serious riders. If i remeber correctly, the dualtron storm had similar issues with its all in 1 controller, at least thats what ive heard. Btw, not sure if the gtr has this setting but electronic breaking (ebs) helps save break pads a bit. Just be mindful of trail breaking into a corner since it can lock up on you. Ride safe brother.
@donscott64315 ай бұрын
I bought an “OG” STORM last January and the sticker on the top of the controller says “STORM UP” on it. I think that DT has rectified the STORMS controller issue. I’ve had no problem with mine and it DOES have the thicker cooling find on the heat sink
@RollOutPEV2 ай бұрын
PMTs don't for the GTR. "12" inch rim and I turned the ebrake off I feel like its a parts of the controller issue as well
@TheCylonBomb2 ай бұрын
@@RollOutPEV damn that unfortunate about the PMTs I'm sure there is another brand out there that will fit. I know there are other brands but don't know the name off hand. I do know some riders who ride with our the electronic break but they also run Magura breaks. Hopefully everything works out for you. Ride safe brother 🙏🏿
@E-RiderHub6 ай бұрын
Awesome ride. Scooter is beast but sucks to hear about the controller issues
@fathertime2092 ай бұрын
That sucks about the tires! Does anyone make a solid tire for this? Seems like that would be a great fix...
@fiansobg6 ай бұрын
Damn, wolf king gtr was my dream scooter but seeing this video ima reconsider. My 1300$ 60v38ah 6000w electric scooter from China has better quality and robustness than this, sorry for you. You definitely shouldn't have to deal with all those issues on a 4k$ scooter. My Dualtron Eagle Pro has 15 000km and is still rocking strong, not one electronical failure since 2021
@Scooter-King.6 ай бұрын
That's an unusual amount of flats especially for the newer permanently installed puncture coated tire designs. I have heard that if you put anti sealant (Stans, Slime, ect) in those types of tires, it may actually breakdown the pre installed coating but they are too new for any real data yet. I feel ya, I hate changing tires!
@lionelhowell49726 ай бұрын
That's why I stick with the cheaper brands,. the same thrill for less money. I learn them like the "back of my hand" so I will be ready to fix anything on them. I have never had any issues despite 5 years of riding and putting thousands of miles on them. All of mine have cheap mods to the designs, like air passage throughout the decks along with thermal pads and paste for the controllers (never blown any despite 52,57, up to 62 mph GPS on 1, and I never ride in the rain) RGB lighting, Bluetooth, PMT tires, etc... Laotie es18, Laotie Landbreaker, 2 QuickWheel S3's 5600 watts, 6000 watts. all long-range fast machines. Some people think if you pay more you get more, but that is just NOT TRUE!!
@evoquesquad20156 ай бұрын
same with me bro
@JulienChabanon5 ай бұрын
I have riden 1800km within the last 3 months with my GTR and the only issue I had is the rear suspension breaking in half.
@camilyameeks32592 ай бұрын
mines broke in half aftert 1300 miles throwing me off the scooter lucky i had safety gear and wasnt going to fast only had a few scrapes on me
@JulienChabanon2 ай бұрын
@@camilyameeks3259 Broke in hall for real? Wow. My Apollo phantom did that but that's a classic Apollo experience lol On a GTR I am bit surprised but good to know
@noobz50563 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear your troubles. Thanks for making honest review of your scooter. I am afraid your third controller is going bad now? You didn't change out the motors yet right? If that is the case it's about time to change out the motors because I'm afraid they are about to go bad.. being taken out by the controllers. That violent shake / vibration coming from the motors come from the controller. It is one of the common problems with these scooters, including other similarly priced competiting brands and other Chinese dual motor scooters. And do not use fast charger more than 2A. It is not good for the battery. Just a heads up.
@rippingj60176 ай бұрын
Yeah man that's crazy that your tires locked up when your controller went out,dam you think that be a safety hazard issue, some kind of lawsuit, i have the gtr to,i got it when it first came out,now im worried about me riding and the controller goes out,and tires locking up.,thats so crazy
@dinachoueiry60736 ай бұрын
Controller can’t lock up the tires. There no resistance…. It does not have regen breaking. So there no way I could think of that would lock them up. I don’t have that scooter but understanding how they work. There no way I can think of that a controller can lock it up. Maybe EBS brakes malfunctioning maybe.
@donscott64315 ай бұрын
@@dinachoueiry6073 Back a few years ago, I was riding a Lime scooter and the wheel locked up, then vibrated. I think it was trying to run backwards. Maybe a hall sensor/magnet issue?
@camilyameeks32592 ай бұрын
yea he lying my controller went out after 1600 miles and scooter would just simply cut off the tires dont lock up idk what he is talking about but after waiting 10mins it would cut on but cut back off after riding for a little if u stay in mode 2 u can get far i replaced the controller its working back perfect
@Lee_UC6 ай бұрын
man, I just got this scooter like a week ago. I've put like 35 miles on it. I feel weird now.
@worp67975 ай бұрын
Is it still good ?
@Lee_UC5 ай бұрын
@@worp6797 yeah, i'm having a blast on it. I'm at about 200 miles right now. I'll make a review video after about 700 as well. I admittedly do not ride too aggressively though. The GTR is my first scooter, I intentionally purchased something for me to grow into. I usually ride in mode 2. I can't even imagine touching S mode right now lol thanks for asking 🤝
@worp67975 ай бұрын
@@Lee_UC okay thank you this will also be my first scooter so I'm glad to see it's a good scooter to bet used to them I also read that this guy was pushing his way too hard so that's why he was having so many problems its restored my choice to buy this scooter thanks 😁
@Lee_UC5 ай бұрын
@@worp6797 That's awesome! I don't think you'll regret it. I'm coming from riding electric unicycles, so the maintenance is taking some getting used to, as EUC takes way less, but I can't deny, the GTR feels great. Just take it slow, and you'll be commanding respect on the streets 🤝 also, yeah, I've been watching this channel for a while, and I'm aware that this guy really pushes his scooter, but I don't think his criticism is invalid like some here. I think that if the product is marketed to do these things, it should be able to handle that. Again, I haven't even touched S mode, but I certainly hope to get there, and when I do, I'd like my scooter to hold up, without fear of blowing up the controller. 3 controllers in less than 1000 miles is crazy!!
@worp67975 ай бұрын
Yeah that is true but I think it could possibly because he has it in s mode all the time I've hear you should mainly use it when going up hill as it can heat up the controller if you use it constantly but yeah I'm hoping if I am going fast in mode 5 than it holds up😅
@Mike-hv5jv4 ай бұрын
What a bummer I just got the wolf x hoping for the best
@noobz50563 ай бұрын
You're screwed bro. The failure rate is 100%. If you ride a few miles once or twice a week it may last you a bit longer but if you ride everyday heavy use it will fail on you quick. 2 different controller problems: 1) Controller continues to run but take out the motors, controller "may" run but keep damaging the motors slowly, and killing the motors. 2) Controller burns out itself before the motors go bad, or take out the motor altogether. That is on the Kaabo's supplier's fault, for making shit controllers. The suppliers for the controllers (Kaabo is only one of the many customers scooter brands) are run by a Jordanian civilian criminal located in Russia deep underground. He is the one that have been running this operation making huge profit using cheap shit quality parts on the controllers that have not been tested and proven to work in dual motor operation. The main purpose is to collect money as the digital printing money has become extremely valueless for the criminals. Yup, he eats human meat too and enjoying that mega energy source, treasure, and spy surveillance system. Battery is separate problem, also run by the high-level criminals. Almost all consumer-grade batteries are built like shit deliberately so that they go bad quickly, unable to take high-current charging and lead to premature death. LG M50 battery pack cannot take 5A charging, it will die soon. The safe charging limit is 0.9A if you want near infinite battery life. 10+A fast charger will kill the battery very quickly. The criminal's agenda is to steer you away from the use of solar and battery energy living off-grid. They want you to stay within the grid system so they can track you every bit of your activities and location so they can come kidnap you if they want for human meat. That is what the grid system is for they don't tell you about. As for your scooter, if you are not going to return it and want to keep it, plan on working on the scooter yourself by replacing the controllers with one single rear wheel drive controller and just power the motor in the rear. Replace the front motor with a motorless alloy wheel. You gonna have to build the battery pack yourself (I know where to get real stuff that works) because most battery packs you buy are built to break for the reasons mentioned earlier.
@RulerOftheLAND5 ай бұрын
What is the cable you have disconnected on right side at 12:27 in video?
@WARMACHINE-SPWR4 ай бұрын
Ran into the same thing mind you i had ny gtr only for 1 month my controller died on me waiting on voromotors to send one to me all i know if it happens again im sending it back!!!!
@noobz50563 ай бұрын
You gonna have to get an aftermarket controller that powers rear motor only. Remove the front motor and replace it with a motorless alloy wheel. You should be able to install the controller on the front steering poles where the stock controller is located with some drilling and install bracket. 150A square wave BLDC controller would be reliable like a tank. Sinewave controllers are no good, they put stress on the motor even though you feel smooth riding on it, and eventually wear out the motor after a year. Square wave controller is safer, and run single motor only. Aftermarket dual motor controllers have the same problem, the controller and motor failure. 150A controller has better cooling and give you better efficiency therefore. Make sure not to charge that battery more than 2A if you want longevity life.
@mikehagquist51986 ай бұрын
What a shame. I have 500 miles on my Apollo and tires are like new still.
@mattmullins34922 ай бұрын
would.you buy it again
@RollOutPEV2 ай бұрын
@@mattmullins3492 yup lol
@dayronrodriguez64716 ай бұрын
Is that the brake sensor
@gmerbergalfonzka59396 ай бұрын
I use my cheap 25 dollar tyre on my 800 dollar 1000w constant 2000w peak cheap scooter, and it looks like brand new. My friend put 1500 miles in and after just for the grip he changed rhe tyre.
@georgebaker38495 ай бұрын
My GTR has been sitting since April. I literally purchased teh GTR from voro, rode it twice and teh battery died. I've been waiting on Voro to help me ever since.
@noobz50563 ай бұрын
God told me that Voromotors did not identify the problem correctly when you said battery died. The truth is that your controller was damaging the motors and the controller just shut off the battery. God told me your battery is fine. They are sending a battery pack for nothing, overlooking the controller issue harming the motors and self-destruct of the controller. This is going to be a painful process for you. 😞
@jamalfadesemall92756 ай бұрын
Back again after watching more of your content, your riding around constantly in 5th gear and smashing out passing traffic like you’re riding a Hyabusa, every issue is due to your handling of this vehicle, I’m looking at the vids and they show riding in extremely cold weather, then super hot in the summer, don’t put tire sealant in those tires, if it gets into the motor assembly, you’re screwed, probably why your wheels seized up on you. Tire shops suggest you don’t use those fix a flat gooos and stuff so I can imagine it’s not a good idea to put it anywhere near an electric motor. Sounds like you’ve turned off traction control and the brake assistance(reason you’re burning through brake pads) You are not a careful rider, it’s not the scooter, it’s you. You’ve probably cranked the adjustment on the rear shock so much that it failed. 3 controllers, it’s not the equipment it is the equipment operator.
@scottg4295 ай бұрын
So you’re saying even 5th gear will burn up electronics? I know you shouldn’t do double tap in sport mode all the time but I thought 5th was harmless
@noobz50563 ай бұрын
Why you attack the video poster?... God told me you already gone though multiple controller replacement and now you have bad motors, taken out by the controller. I guess it's an user error for you too?... You don't have to go fast to break the scooter, going slow can even cause greater harm, due to the faulty design of the controllers not being able to deliver power to both motors safely.
@RollOutPEV2 ай бұрын
Nope I sure don't baby it. But I'm not "abusive" or park it "wet" if you get what I'm saying. Purchased it because I wanted to do $4k+ scooter things with it and it hasn't held up. BUT I'll say this. Since I've made this video it's been solid. Also. After the 1st controller I humble myself and slowed down my riding considerably and it still went and just to reaffirm my controller issues Jimmy Chang from the big electric scooter channel had his controller fail on his own GTR. Im not arguing with ya or anything but if I want to cruise at 25-30mph I would have bought a 300w scooter from Amazon
@cocoabiscuits6 ай бұрын
Wow!! 3 controllers. Andrew from freshly charged channel had similar issue with controller right out of the box. Thats crazy. I bought the same black GTR model ( first pev) nightmare from voromotors but Melvin was super cool giving me full refund. Best part of that experience was him calling me to rectify the problems but it eas so bad i opted out completely. Bought a updated Nami max with PMTs and so far so good. Thing is amazing!
@scottg4296 ай бұрын
Did you get the older or newer model GTR?
@cocoabiscuits6 ай бұрын
@@scottg429 I don't know. It was around the time last October they had the charger issues but said they would ship the new ones. Received it with an incomplete kaabo mantis charger and the battery was completely stuck jammed. Gashes in the handlebar etc. it was a lemon but they didn't tell me if it was updated GTR or not
@avrumischechter48246 ай бұрын
@scottg429 I have the new one and put 300 miles so far no issues also gonna need to change front tire more often cause I have traction control off
@theskeptik16 ай бұрын
I’ve found Kaabo to be overhyped. They’re no better than a Yume when it comes to reliability. That puppy fast as hell though. 😂
@RollOutPEV6 ай бұрын
All of the brands have their problems for sure
@ChrisHirner6 ай бұрын
Hey I like my yume raptor. 700 miles now.
@electropalsceo6 ай бұрын
Was the controllers covered under warranty ?
@igot5onit4235 ай бұрын
I have the gt2 and i love it.. its around 2k right now i would look into it if your Seriously considering a scooter like this..
@jamesoakes6922 ай бұрын
What's the purpose of disconnecting those plugs?
@RollOutPEV2 ай бұрын
Motors won't turn off while braking which is needed for certain manufacturing
@noobz50562 ай бұрын
Rollout PEV, God told me you already bought a new aftermarket controller for your scooter and also got other parts like throttle display and key lock switch with voltmeter. If you need help on wiring up the controller to the key lock switch here it is: The key lock switch should have three wires. The key lock/ignition wire from the controller goes to positive (red) wire coming from the key lock switch. The black wire from the controller goes to the black wire from the key lock switch. The green wire from the key lock switch goes to the positive wire from the controller. Use 5V line wires from the controller not the battery wires. It will put stress on the key lock switch and will soon get burnt if you connect to the battery wires. Just thought you might need some info. And God told me you bought the sinewave controller and not a BLDC controller. That's not good, cause the sinewave controller will put stress on the motors and will get bad over time. It won't last very long. BLDC controller would be better choice as they are safe on the motors. And expect that your motors go bad later (damaged by the Wolf King GTR controllers) so get a 60V 2800W motor or 72V 3500W motor from Aliexpress. Both are heavy-duty and can handle power and wattage better than the stock motors that come with these scooters.
@johnbeck42166 ай бұрын
I have a GTR and a emove Roadrunner Pro. I love them but they are both pieces of crap. my experience is similar to yours.
@cocoabiscuits6 ай бұрын
Damn. I dodged a bullet sounds like. Bought from voromotors and right out of the box it had problems. Was happy to eventually get a full refund. No problems with my Nami max. I went somewhere else. Voromotors was a nightmare for my first PEV experience
@scottg4296 ай бұрын
Do you have the first model or the newer model with the snap in battery? I think they worked out the bugs with the new model?
@Kaabosurron6 ай бұрын
What speaker model is that?
@RollOutPEV6 ай бұрын
Link is in the description 👍🏿
@xJesseJames33x6 ай бұрын
Man you’re in Philly !! Where do you ride I’m in delco looking for a group
@RollOutPEV6 ай бұрын
I live in delco but I ride in Philly mostly
@xJesseJames33x6 ай бұрын
Nice. Do you roll on the streets in delco the cops leave you alone ?
@RollOutPEV6 ай бұрын
@@xJesseJames33x I ride to work in Prospect Park all the time on MacDade Blvd no issues with the law
@RollOutPEV6 ай бұрын
t.me/+lgdvGJySQtYzZjUx Link to our Philly performance scooter group chat on telegram if you ever want to ride with us
@xJesseJames33x6 ай бұрын
@@RollOutPEV nice me either I live on Clifton no problems yet. Thanks for the info on this model I’ll keep a eye out
@Freedomgaming016 ай бұрын
That's terrific quality
@camilyameeks32592 ай бұрын
yea he lying my controller went out after 1600 miles and scooter would just simply cut off the tires dont lock up idk what he is talking about but after waiting 10mins it would cut on but cut back off after riding for a little if u stay in mode 2 u can get far i replaced the controller its working back perfect
@noobz50562 ай бұрын
The new controller replacement will break soon bro.
@noobz50562 ай бұрын
Oh and the problem you getting with intermittent cut-off and on on the motors is the sign of the motors start to go bad. It will get worse over time and quit working completely, 100%. They get murdered by the controllers. The new batch of controller replacement for the Wolf King GTR behaves a bit different. They don't take out the motors soon like the early model controller, but the controller itself will self-destruct (get burnt). Keep replacing that thing the motors will start to go bad because they still send shock to the motors to a lesser degree. Stay away from using the stock controllers. Find yourself an aftermarket controller to run your scooter.
@chachiarcola60124 ай бұрын
4:19 I have no idea why people talk up kaabo's GTR's there so ugly and shitty design I mean they have side illumination with a frame Infront of it.... i ride a dualtron ULTRA 2 and I swear it's never ever ever given me any dramas dualtron make the best scooters I've never liked kaabo crap imagine buying the wrong scooter and realising you should have bought a dualtron.... Thanks for this VID it's now proven to me how 💩 they really are .👍
@jamalfadesemall92756 ай бұрын
750 miles on my GTR, not a single problem, it sounds like you are a bit abusive the way you ride and you try and treat this like a dirt bike, it is not. Did you purchase this from Voro motors? Or did you get it from Ali Express?
@austingrant45926 ай бұрын
Same here I have 700 miles and it runs smoothly no problems at all I go off road sometimes but still great 👍
@trunorth49875 ай бұрын
It's an off-road scooter and the GTR it's supposed to handle real off-road terrain, or they might as well have just stuck to the GT. You should be able to get decent jumps, but nothing too crazy. If it can't handle decent jumps 5 and hard rugged trails then it's not worth the price tag.
@rippingj60175 ай бұрын
It's a scooter they are not made for any off road,the rotary head is made of diacast metal it will break in a instance
@worp67975 ай бұрын
@@austingrant4592did you buy from voro motors
@OregonCrow5 ай бұрын
bent both the brake handles? jesus
@RollOutPEV2 ай бұрын
It threw me off. I explained in the video
@TheMarkofJay5 ай бұрын
Mine come in on the 17th. You make me want to not even open it and get the inmotion RS
@donscott64315 ай бұрын
The RS also has motor issues. I would wait, as long as possible, and hope the newer batches have addressed this issue. And I, also have been burnt by VORO
@noobz50563 ай бұрын
Inmotion RS also has controller issues and take out the motors as well. From what God told me you used a 20A fast charger and killed the battery in a GTR and you are having the seller to warranty the battery. You cannot use fast charger, use 1.4A charger for reasonable battery life. 0.9A for near infinite battery life. That's right, you cannot use this scooter with that battery (LG M50) as an everyday workhorse. Need controller replaced with an aftermarket one, and battery needs to be custom-built with genuine Samsung 40T. With that you can safely charge at upto 12A without any degradation.
@noobz50563 ай бұрын
@@donscott6431 God told me that the Inmotion RS cannot iron out the controller problem so right now they are just replacing the controllers with another. And the motors are actually 48V 500 watt motor x 2. They are not 2000 watt. That motor will cost nothing for the supplier as it is super cheap. So the motors will be under constant stress when running 72~ 84V system. God told me that they will not release any new batch of controllers with fixes, unable. Kaabo will release new batch for their controller in the future and will not take out the motors but the controller will burn out before the motors start to go bad.
@RollOutPEV2 ай бұрын
The RS has controller issues too. Maybe even worse than the GTR
@donscott64312 ай бұрын
@@RollOutPEV not just controllers. An acquaintance of mine had to have the front motor replaced with less than 200 miles on it. Not to beat a dead horse, but for overall dependability and build, you can’t beat Dualtron. Highest specs? No. New pertinent innovations? Not really. If you wanna make your first scooter purchase your LAST, go Dualtron
@andreperry79955 ай бұрын
It was over price man. I bought the Toursor electric scooter from Amazon. The scooter came with 72v 40ah battery, security alarm, 14inch tires, both 5,000w motors, 2 charges, 12inch display screen, and with seat. I got 65 miles on a single charge. The top speed is 65mph. I rarely do the top speed. I like range better for me.
@trunorth49875 ай бұрын
How is the Tourson holding up ?
@andreperry79955 ай бұрын
@@trunorth4987 no complaints from me man. It is a good scooter.
@OregonCrow5 ай бұрын
Just looked that thing up, aids. Enjoy the ride while it lasts, that thing is 100% gonna shit on you and you'll have no way to fix it.
@cocoabiscuits3 ай бұрын
Based on the reviews not so wheel and the thing looks like it would break down within the first 3 weeks. Cheaply made and false advertisement from the looks of it based on reviews@@trunorth4987
@Seb905842 ай бұрын
Just remember the quality is shit, and much bigger chance that the battery will explode. And they probably don’t have any costumer support
@scottg4296 ай бұрын
What size are the axle nuts?
@jabbarwilson70126 ай бұрын
I know that speaker slaps 💪🏿 I have the same one. Also the Green W-KING. Nice video brotha thanks. GO BIRDS #FLINKO ❤💯 🦅🦅🦅🦅
@tonygarcia95965 ай бұрын
Try FOX shocks.
@LuvNWutIDoinАй бұрын
Steering dampers for Wolfking GTR. Do you think that installing a damper would even be necessary?
@donscott64315 ай бұрын
So sorry for you. I bought a brand new STORM from VORO and it came with a battery that wouldn’t charge. Called them the day of arrival, sent them videos upon request, tried to put a claim through insurance (they said that on a new scooter, VORO was libel), ect ect. Finally just bought a new 35 ah STORM UP battery with insulated ports from Minimotors USA. $1600. Problem solved. People… do your research before buying!!! Customer service cannot be understated
@worp67975 ай бұрын
So do you mean the voro service was good ?
@donscott64315 ай бұрын
@@worp6797 not for me, but it’s just the chance you take: I only do business with Minimotors USA, now. With ME, Minimotors has a perfect record. I bought a battery, steering damper, replacement front tire and wheel, 80 mm handlebar riser, replacement stem-clamp bolt and a fast charger with the insulated ports. OH, and a replacement battery cable. The tire/wheel and battery cable are just parts to have on hand, as well as a few sets of brake pads. They are more expensive than VORO but I’m 110% satisfied. They were, initially, out of the stem riser and called me explaining that it would be 4-6 weeks before they would have them back in stock. I forgot about it, then one day Cooper called me at home and asked if I would be home the following week, as the part had come in and he wanted to be sure I was going to be home before they sent it. THAT is Customer Service x 10!
@jamalfadesemall9275Ай бұрын
I owe this channels owner an apology. Weeks after I posted my comments. I got an error 2 code on my GTR which turned out to be a failed motor. Had a back and forth with Voro for a week and a half and they shipped a new motor which has an axel issue, and I can feel a vibrational wobble in the rear at speeds. poorly packaged and shipped motor was probably damaged in transit or they shipped out a refurb because it was under warranty. 8 months into ownership and I too have a step-down controller issue that causes all of the lights on the scooter to fail when the battery reaches 60%. This week I have had several error code 5 warnings (voltage shortage) mind you this is while the battery is fully charged at 100%. I commute to work, it's about a two and a half mile ride, when I arrived today and went to perform my normal routine of removing the battery and charging it while I work, I wasn't able to remove the battery as it seems to somehow be sealed into the deck and I can smell the faint odor of electrical fire near where the contacts are below the deck and on the battery. I fear that something has caused a fire and the two plastic covers on the contacts of the battery and the deck are fused together and this is causing the issue with not being able to get the battery out. I say all of that to say this, Kaabo is not bringing a sound product to market, and content creators are not really revealing most of the negatives with these scooters because they don't want to damage their relationships with these companies sending them freebies to create content with, don't bite the hand that feeds. I am happy this has happened because Roll Out's situation and mine are revealing the 800-pound gorilla in the room, regardless of how you treat this Wolf Range of Kaabo scooters they all seem to fail similarly where the components are concerned. At this point I am doing a complete 180 on my summary of Roll Outs issue with his scooter, I am having all of those same issues and I baby my scooter. 80% of my ride time is on sidewalks under 30 miles per hour on my commutes. This scooters component should not be failing in this fashion so abruptly. My previous scooter was a Varla Eagle One, I've ridden that thing home on a flat tire 5 miles in a deluge, no issues, put 4000 miles on it before the deck took on water causing the controllers to fry. I rode it to and from work 10 miles each way before it failed and only paid 1600 for it, spent 4200 USD on this one and so far we've had a 400 dollar motor replaced, going to need a 30 dollar stepdown controller, the battery is going to have to be replaced if I can even get it out, that's $1400 and I have only had this thing 8 months. Thats damned near 2 grand in replacement shit for something I have had for less than a year. You can tell there is a major issue with the Wolf King range of scooters because Voro is completely sold out of.... wait for it... Sine wave controllers and step down controllers. To anyone who may have made the decision to purchase a Kaabo scooter in the Wolf King range based on my previous comments, DISREGARD everything I typed. The Kaabo brand in my honest opinion is shit based on 8 months of owning one of their products. Varla is putting out a more reliable product in my honest opinion based on owning and operating both of their products and using theme in a commuter fashion. In closing, again I want to apologize to Roll Out for raking him over the coals and not knowing that I would soon experience all of the disappointment he has experienced almost ten fold. Can't wait to get on the horn with Voro CSR's on Monday, I spoke directly to Melvin about rear motor issue, I will not settle for speaking to anyone lower on the totem than him for this go round and I plan to get a brand-new scooter out of this one or we will seek strong council to sort it out in court. This is complete bullshit.
@xJesseJames33x6 ай бұрын
Is this a new model ? I havent had these problems thank god
@RollOutPEV6 ай бұрын
This is the newer GTR version not the older GT PRO
@xJesseJames33x6 ай бұрын
@@RollOutPEV I ment as far as they have the one with the older battery setup with the wire and the newer version with the snap in place
@Obnard026 ай бұрын
@@xJesseJames33x I have the GTR with the snap in battery not the foldy wire, also 700 miles and I have not had any problems so far. I feel bad for this guy lol.
@xJesseJames33x6 ай бұрын
@@Obnard02I’m only at 300 I’m scared as hell this is gonna happen 😂 I have the newer version as well. Fingers crossed 🤞
@scottg4296 ай бұрын
@@Obnard02no problems at all? I also have the newer version but the thought of wheels locking up scares me to death. Also what size are the axle nuts?
@ants9602 ай бұрын
As u send it back they probably just send it to another person
@dayronrodriguez64716 ай бұрын
What was that you keep disconnected
@RollOutPEV6 ай бұрын
Rear brake sensors
@fiansobg6 ай бұрын
@@RollOutPEV wheelie amateur?
@Avatar_andthe_Cat6 ай бұрын
Tip about your tires: FILL them bitches up with that auto-sealing goo or tire slime... I used maybe 4oz of sealant in each tire. maybe 8oz. I forgot the size of the bottle I bought but it was half and half. I've had the same set of tubeless tires on my scooter for about 1000 miles now without changing them. Tread is still great. I've had 4+ punctures causing complete flats. Was able to walk it home, fill it with air, give it some hours and its like new again. Each and every time. I can literally see the gouges and holes from where nails and what not dug into the tire causing them but are now plugged with the sealant. Yeah it adds a bunch of weight to the wheels, maybe a bit of uneven weight. But so negligible it's hardly noteworthy. And with the pro of never having to swap my tires I say its ENTIRELY worth it.
@RollOutPEV2 ай бұрын
Gotcha. Thank you
@jayy2419519 күн бұрын
Over 3k for this scooter. Their shouldnt be any problems fr. That must suck
@olivierrattelafreniere13266 ай бұрын
GOt 560 miles on my gtr (battery with cable ) and had zero issue with it ,I guess you are just unlucky sir : /
@cocoabiscuits6 ай бұрын
I was unlucky too. Right out of the box it was all bad. Sent it back to voromotors for full refund
@TheElectricScooterGuy5 ай бұрын
You should of got a dualtron I had the wolf warrior 11+ and they make them with all cheap bolts and screws wait till those black cheap screws start shearing off on you especially the 3 screws in the front underneath the deck it happened to me twice and I put stainless steel screws and they still sheared off and the bolt that holds the rear suspension in that's gonna break on you too almost everyone I know who owns a wolf warrior 11+ or a gt pro or a gtr nothing but problems why do u think a 65mph scooter only cost 3,999 and the GT Pro is only 3,400 why because there cheap crap u could of got a dualtron ultra 2 for that price and I can tell u the Dualtron ultra 2 is a way way better scooter u can't beat the quality and it does a legit 62mph
@noobz50563 ай бұрын
Ok here's the top speed chart for real true speed not fake speed reading: Body weight 200 lbs standing up with safety gear calm neutral weather Teverun Fighter Supreme - 51.x mph true speed Teverun Fighter Supreme Ultra - 53.5 mph true speed Teverun Fighter Supreme 7260R - 57.x mph true speed Dualtron Thunder 3 - 61.x mph true speed Dualtron Ultra 2 Upgrade - 63 mph true speed Dualtron X Limited - 62.x mph true speed Wolf King GTR - 52.x mph true speed Wolf King GT - 49.x mph true speed Teewing Mars XTR - 50.x mph true speed Teewing Mars XT - 48.x mph true speed Inmotion RS - 51.x mph true speed RoadRunner RX7 - 49.x mph true speed Nami Burn-E 2 Max - 50 mph true speed Nami Burn-E 3 Max - 51.x mph true speed Langfeite H1 - 50.x mph true speed Langfeite H2 - 46.x mph true speed Emove Roadster - 55.x mph true speed Slack Core 920R (batch release until End of May, 2023) - 80.x mph true speed Slack Core 920R (batch release starting June, 2023) - 97.x mph true speed Weped SST - 65.5~ 65.9 mph true speed Weped FS - 75 mph true speed
@TheElectricScooterGuy3 ай бұрын
@@noobz5056 yup I agree I have the Dualtron Ultra 2 and I get 63mph no problem it's def the most underrated e scooter out there and i love the way it rides but the top speed is incredible 👌
@RollOutPEV2 ай бұрын
First I just want to start by saying your channel is one of the reasons I got into E-scooters lol but I hear ya man. Dual tron is just too far behind In tech these days. I might sound crazy but the new Teewing XTR has caught my attention and I'm keeping an eye on how they developed the model over time.
@Justliketolearn5 ай бұрын
I have 300 miles on mine so far it's working good
@worp67975 ай бұрын
Where did you order it from
@evoquesquad20156 ай бұрын
from toronto canada. too much problems bro not looking good. buy a GT-3
@jamalfadesemall92756 ай бұрын
Just reviewed some of your videos and I can confirm, you are abusing this scooter, understand that advertisers and marketers have led you all to believe that these vehicles are all terrain, they are not, they are also not designed to run with highway traffic at 50+ mph daily. You appear to be a larger person as well, 200-230 lbs, and you are stressing this vehicle to the max with the way you ride, the power is there for range, not for smashing out in 5th gear or S mode constantly. I would suggest, changing the way you approach riding these vehicles. I am about to crest 800 miles on my GTR that I purchased in April of this year, not a single issue, still have half of the original brake pads left. That’s not a notch in the steering look at the cables, they are getting caught between the fork and the body of the scooter. Last but not least stop calling it Kaboooo the name of the brand is Kaabo, like hobo. It’s funny that Ginger on Wheels, Freshly Charged, Electric Scooter Academy(delivers DoorDash daily on a GTR) and Rider Guide have no issue with their GTR’S either, Andrew from Freshly Charged did blow a controller but it was due to aggressively pushing the scooter to its limits. The scooter is designed for commuting and gives you some power to get out of the way when you need it, most of you want it to be a dirt bike, scooter and Lamborghini at the same time, this is why you have so many issues. Stop showing off, beating up the vehicle and ride it with care and it works as intended. I get the feeling this was your first scooter.
@worp67975 ай бұрын
Thank you I feel more better about buying this also should I buy it from voro motors
@RulerOftheLAND5 ай бұрын
@@worp6797I was feeling the same as you and I just got more ne yesterday from Voro. But after reading this comment I feel really good because I am definitely not going to be riding it half as aggressive as OP does. I got it for the power to tackle hills easier and only to use extra umph when needed... Not all the time full throttle 5S
@worp67975 ай бұрын
@@RulerOftheLAND okay thank you I can't wait to get mine all it is is saving the money now 🤣
@bampythons51234 ай бұрын
I agree, hes one the only people I've seen with this many issues, beats the shit out of it and just expects the scooter to take it.
@ants9602 ай бұрын
I wanted to buy one but I'm doing my research I was under the impression the things it says it does can be done at any time and all the time if I wanted a cruiser I would be looking at something else
@frankramirez8627 күн бұрын
Well im sticking to my "Chinese" scooter not worth paying so much money for a piece of crap