I also feel that you are never too old to write, I am in my 40's and I am loving it!
@rphomemovies3 жыл бұрын
I'm 65. I wrote in my teens and then focused on raising a family and am just getting going again!
@Amy_Mi64 жыл бұрын
"I don't really write anything down or plan anything" 😂😂😂 . . . Me too, Kate. Me. Too.
@xatiter4 жыл бұрын
You are a regular eh?
@delanceydays4 жыл бұрын
The writing every day myth has been my biggest obstacle as a new writer! It’s a sure fire way to burn myself out, and it’s taken me so long to figure out WHY I was struggling to write every day, day in, day out in the midst of part time work and full time school! So awesome to hear you guys bust this myth!
@geniusgameram91004 жыл бұрын
I am going through it and came to the conclusion of just getting rid of it
@delanceydays4 жыл бұрын
@Dad Songs Right! It's a balance... sometimes, discipline IS key. If you only wait to write when your creative planets align perfectly... well yeah, not good. But on the flip side, forcing yourself, to the point where all creativity dries up isn't ideal either. I guess the idea is to know yourself, and know what you need on a case by case basis! :D
@bartandaelus3594 жыл бұрын
Personally I found the only reason I actually finished my book was because I was doing 1000+ words a day. I think that comes down to a number of factors though. I'm working on an epic fantasy on the same kind of scale as ASOIAF or LOTR so I have an enormous word count pushing 200k. To get through that it takes a certain measure of dedication. I needed to just commit to getting the ideas I had down on paper and fortunately I have a fairly clear goal of what happens and where it's going. Setting a daily goal gave me more incentive to keep going and not give up.
@delanceydays4 жыл бұрын
@@bartandaelus359 that's awesome!! Yeah it depends on the context - but that's awesome that you were able to give the project exactly what it needed. And it was a choice that benefitted you!
@u2hezy3 жыл бұрын
I do try to keep myself at a daily goal. But the reason I do it is very personal....If I personally don't write every day I lose contact with my WIP. Some days I write crap, done days I write gold. But I do manage to get something down to work with. I'm of the mind there are no wasted words... writing something, anything, gets me thinking about my project and developing the idea. However that is me personally, that in no way means I'm more of a writer than anyone else.
@liamurati14 жыл бұрын
"People went through wars and stuff, they weren't writers, they weren't' spending their days Making PINTEREST BOARDS FOR THEIR "WIP. Something happen that made them NEED TO WRITE THE STORY" Amen Katie!
@delanceydays4 жыл бұрын
omg my favorite part of the whole episode! YES
@liamurati14 жыл бұрын
@@delanceydays totally agree with you LOL!
@jemimawillis314 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, the last tip means a lot to me as a teenager I always feel like I'm so under qualified to share my writing or even to write sometimes. Thank you for motivating me and keeping me sane!
@maxwrigley68854 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than a half-hour writing lecture
@kennedypatton78744 жыл бұрын
This is actual writing advice I heard from authors: 1. For feminist story your female must have man related problems 2. For an adventure/war story you must kill off a main character in order to be realistic or it will upset readers to see all characters survive in the end. (war is understandable)
@billyalarie9294 жыл бұрын
This is WILD o_o
@JennsCreativityCorner4 жыл бұрын
My 2 cents: killing off a character is so tricky. Killing my 1st character is still gut-wrenching every time I read that scene lol. My MC needed a close character to go. It has a purpose and they were never set up as a sacrificial lamb. They had a great part in book 1, died in 2nd. Readers want it to be real, some crave happier endings than others. No one wants the guy that had 2 lines to die because we don't care enough.
@varrickace4653 жыл бұрын
2. Sounds like GRRM said this
@LetitiaViolet8 ай бұрын
The killing of a character is mostly so you don't end up with a Twilight situation where there was a huge buildup to a battle scene, and then they just didn't fight. They solved it with words basically. The one side character that died is mostly just annoying and unfair. The reader wants to feel like the happy ending is earned, regardless of the genre. You don't necessarily need to kill them but make them go through something at least internally to get to the ending.
@xatiter4 жыл бұрын
1st myth: _"You have to be good at writing to be a good writer."_ Me: *Just kill me now.* Timestamps: 1:18: You have to be good at righting to be a good writer 3:47 You need a unique plot. 8:23 You need to write daily (true if you have black/ asian parents🙋♂️) 11:28 You need a likeable character 12:47 You need a detailed outline ( Is she drunk, or....) 21:54: You have to satisfy your reader 23:43 Youre too young Idk why Im doing this at 4Am, but youre welcome. Gn, sleep tight, dont let the horrific Wattpad fanfictions bite❤️
@captainpinky83074 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your effort.
@xatiter4 жыл бұрын
@@captainpinky8307 Glad _someone_ actually appreciates me an all I do **fake ass **_"sniff sniff"_*
@nahomededeya72864 жыл бұрын
The part where you said your protagonists shouldn't be likable really made sense. Sherlock Holmes, very true. Even The Joker, Mafia's,...etc are examples too.
@gracethe_violinist4 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful, thanks. I've been feeling disqualified lately. Btw, both of your shirts are adorable and I loved that you mentioned Marvel and Downtown Abbey ( I like those films, obviously lol).
@dielizzy-ts2rv Жыл бұрын
I love your videos and thank you for debunking those myths! I feel validated as a newbe writer
@spacewhales21184 жыл бұрын
Or never too old to write and publish. I’m only going to be turning 30 but still I’ve only just begun. But hey I sincerely found what I want to do with my life and it’s making tremendous improvements in every aspect and it feels great!
@JennsCreativityCorner4 жыл бұрын
Love it. I discovered my love for writing at 35 :)
@sharoncastle21774 жыл бұрын
Hey Kate and Abbie, what do I do while I'm letting my book sit? Like can I outline other book?
@KAEmmons4 жыл бұрын
you should do whatever would feel good for YOU. If you want to outline another book, go for it. There are no rules to art. Let your heart speak. :) Thank you for being here in the community
@sharoncastle21774 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much kate! I love watching your videos, they make my day!
@billyalarie9294 жыл бұрын
For my money, I’m always of the mind of fathoming another story. The next one, the next one.... Real life is simply too dismal to not at least constantly create my own Worlds, EVEN WHILE ITS TRUE that my writing tends toward dismal storytelling; it’s at least more in our control than the world as we know it.
@jeanshelbybooks4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been writing thinning “I love this... but I don’t know if it’s any good.” Thank you for all of these myths!
@rachaelbirch9303 Жыл бұрын
I relate to your way of writing Kate! I am somewhere in the middle as well. Not really one or the other. Even when I plot, I change it up occasionally mid write!
@BreeEvans Жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes! I read so many books that have genres i like but dont make me feel anything, whereas there are books that i dont even like the genre but they make me feel something and i love them
@elealion14696 ай бұрын
Agh, the outline!!! I literally put off writing for 2 decades, because when I went to my teacher asking for writing advice or resources, the only information she gave me was to "create a plan". I guess she meant an outline, but having been 13 years old, and experience with just a 1-dimentional planning, like to-do lists, I could not imagine cramping my ideas into one "to-do list". At that time I could not imagine that the teacher could be wrong, and I had no other idea where to look for information (times without internet in my country). I have decided then and there that writing books is not for me. I mean, how am I supposed to know how my book is going to end from the get-go? Not to mention, that teacher made it sound more like a chore and another assignment than something to be actually enjoyed. Then, 20 years later, I find Brendan Sanderson's writing classes and I am ready to give it another shot.
@michael_stanley7 ай бұрын
good job ladies - very helpful
@JimmieHammel3 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with only writing when you feel like it. If I only write when I feel like it, I'll spend all my time playing video games. I spent 5 years "not feeling like it" after my last book. So now I spend at least 15 minutes every day writing. It keeps my story fresh and alive in my mind. And when I "feel like it" I write for a couple hours and I don't spend the first half hour rereading and trying to remember where I left off because I haven't sat down to work for weeks.
@ryanhollist39506 ай бұрын
On the idea of "satisfying your reader": there was a TV show some years ago that I loved the first season of. However, I was so satisfied with how that season ended that I've never cared to go watch any more. Continuing on with the characters feels like it would ruin the perfect ending I already got from the writers and performers.
@ironwarrior5384 жыл бұрын
Keep these podcasts coming.
@klaraleavesley3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just became an official teen, (which was kinda shocking for my friends cuz they thought I already was one cuz I act like it!) and myth number 7 hit me hard! I kinda blanked out when Abbie said it cuz I was like, "Can they see into my soul?????" Thanks a bunch guys. You rockk!
@mubashirfarooqi64014 жыл бұрын
What if people tell me I am good but I think I am not? Also how do I connect with masses to get reviews?
@Maria-wm1mk4 жыл бұрын
Omg, i enjoy this! SUBSCRIBED!!!!
@jacindaellison33634 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, yes Abbie! Please do a case study on Sherlock! Plus, CJ Ellis from The Best of Enemies is another good example of unlikable "likeable" characters.
@marleymarss4 жыл бұрын
I never understood this idea/advice that you have to write everyday. When I first heard about it, it irked (as I've been writing stories every since I could remember to form sentences) me as it didn't make sense to why I'll have to write when I might get stuck. Getting stuck then would cause frustration and possibly not me willing to write. Like you guys, I'll write when I'll feel it or when a scene nags at me that causes me to write with excitement and exploration when writing (depends on the story though as like you Kate, I'll see these visualizations over and over constantly in my head, even when I'm not writing). There have been elementary school kids who have published their children's books and even chapter books, so yeah, anyone can really write and publish at any age.
@bartandaelus3594 жыл бұрын
Personally I find it incredibly important to my process to write (nearly) every day. It helps me keep up the momentum and I find if I stop the scene will feel really odd when I return to it. I find it helps give me structure to my day as well. I also find it easier to finish a project by fixing the mistakes I've made in an edit than just staring at a blank page I didn't write on because I didn't feel like it.
@bfeu4 жыл бұрын
Love this!
@ostatecrew74585 ай бұрын
Finishing my first novel at 52. I write for 4 hours every Saturday and Sunday morning due to having a sin in sports and a demanding career. I took a weekend off after finishing my first draft.
@petrajorova34074 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s important to be good at writing if i have great stories to tell ❤️ Everything comes with time Btw love your podcasts💕
@ComicPower Жыл бұрын
I love the channel and the advice you guys give. That their is not one way to do this
@KAEmmons Жыл бұрын
We're so glad it's encouraging! Thank you for being here, friend 🙏
@zenebornman79174 жыл бұрын
I do the outline method that Kate does. Because I have an idea of one special thing about a character that's internal conflict and then I work on that. Usually I get an exciting plot idea on the way and then I just make a few plot point notes and everything in between I write out of the blue like a panser and I change the plot points a bit sometimes too. And I like live the story almost as if it's in my own life. And I feel everything the characters feel as I like write scenes down that come up in my head. Like a plotter. Then I write the story like that. A total Hybrid. 😂 💖💕👍
@dawnpoint4 жыл бұрын
I dare contest that the unique plot of Tenet blew me away. But I like the characters too. But the plot was really cool I thought.
@georginakosi5411 Жыл бұрын
What aesthetics is the best (your opinions)? My story ideas (the MC's aesthetics): adventurecore, bloomcore, cyberpunk, fantasy/suspense or summer
@RavenMadd94 жыл бұрын
thank you
@TaniasWritingRealm4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I don't write everyday. It's unrealistic to put that kind of pressure on yourself. That doesn't mean you aren't a writer.
@apriljon1270 Жыл бұрын
Flip side of number 7… too old? That’s how I’m feeling.
@billyalarie9294 жыл бұрын
22:35 yeah but breaking bad tho
@hafsaali4207 Жыл бұрын
yeah I think I believe that I am too young, too unexperienced to let the world see my work.
@ClefairyFairySnowflake4 жыл бұрын
I really love this podcast! You two are amazing!!! Keep up the great work!
@JennsCreativityCorner4 жыл бұрын
I finished nanowrimo 2020 in 10 days. But I loathe the advice to write every day!
@Amy_Mi64 жыл бұрын
The ONE day I leave my phone at home for morning drop-off 😜
@billyalarie9294 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how much I agree with this first one that you guys offer.... how many writers are out there making money because they know that accessible writing is the thing that will get people to buy? (I mean to be fair, how many writers are making a living, period, from their writing?) Not to say that there aren’t still writers who enjoy writing beautiful prose, and not to say that there aren’t people who enjoy reading that sort of thing. But it definitely stands to reason that people vastly tend to prefer clear prose, almost workman prose. Frankly, stylists get very little respect in todays market, in comparison to those who just get the story out there. I don’t really see your Edith Whartons or your Toni Morrisons or anything like that in the current spring of new writers. Patrick rothfuss is the closest we have, particularly for the new crop of fantasy writers, anyway. And, well... Rothfuss. 😬
@bartandaelus3594 жыл бұрын
Rothfuss's editor recently said they haven't heard from him in 3 years.
@kathleenschwab46453 жыл бұрын
I think Alix Harrow (10,000 Doors of January) and Katherine Arden (Bear and Nightingale) both have beautiful prose.
@christianknickerbocker6043 жыл бұрын
I think the myth about having to write an original plot is very common. I don't know how many times I've had people advice me to just think of a way to tweak classic stories to make them my own. If you can come with a good tweak that's great but what hasn't been done at this point? I think 600k plus books get published every year at this point... really all you can rely on is your characters, forget about trying to find something new under the sun.
@HotRodTypewriter4 жыл бұрын
You guys are cool. Are you looking for a bass player? I’d totally join your band.
@donovanmedieval Жыл бұрын
What about being too old to publish your first book?
@j.a.abele3333 жыл бұрын
Hallmark movies all have the same type of plot but it's the characters who make it unique... you know how it ends but you watch it anyway...
@isaacriggs46565 ай бұрын
Someone can objectively be a good writer. In my opinion the people that can't see that are too immature to be unbiased enough to look at writing objectively.
@h.k.37042 жыл бұрын
I dont agree with the: Characters dont have to be "likable". I strongly advise this though. Because Ive read books and seen films where the mc has internal conflict goes throughout a transformation and changes for the better in the end but they... Arent likable. And... I dont mean to be harsh but I'll take 100 days of sunlight as an example because its closer to you: Tessa is very generic. I cant name a thing special or likable in her personality. Sure she has this thing of being "super-tidy" and being overcomplicated about certain stuff but it isnt that special or particularly likable. While Weston is full of quirks and likable traits that keeps you engaged like "waiting 5 sec to talk" or "asking about everything" "not thinking before speaking" are things that make him way more likable than Tessa simply because they were more emphasized throughout the book.
@TohruTatiteshi4 жыл бұрын
I don't think forcing myself to write every day is a good idea - writing is my hobby, not my job... For professional writers, it can work, but not for us, who write only because we enjoy it.
@amesd33384 жыл бұрын
First comment???
@MalachiFrazee2224 жыл бұрын
Oops. I'm a plot person and I don't like most of the MCU because of the same plot reason.
@Gaywatch4 жыл бұрын
The ability to write prose absolutely matters, but the definition of 'good' is much broader and more fundamental than many new writers realize. Craft is necessary, style is subjective. (In case anyone heard that first myth and thought "yay I don't have to care about prose at all anymore.'')
@storiesandtaps85103 жыл бұрын
Two of my sisters and I are trying to guess: Who is older? 😊🤔
@isaacriggs46565 ай бұрын
Making Pinterest boards makes you a writer? Remind me to never read anything you've ever written. I can't stand this procrastinative nonsense.
@sidneyburke10464 жыл бұрын
U R never 2 young. Well im 2 months old and publishing my book 1B3. 😂🤣
@Gaywatch4 жыл бұрын
"Write when you're inspired" can be unrealistic advice for the many writers who rarely feel 'inspired.' For most people, inspiration doesn't finish books, sitting down and doing the work does. Not that writing every day is realistic either, but there's a balance between writing when you feel like it and having the diligence to sit down and do it anyway. Professional writers don't have the luxury of relying on inspiration most of the time, and of that's where a writer wants to be they should get used to it now.