Kagaribi 8 Losers Quarters - Abadango (Meta Knight) Vs. ProtoBanham (Lucina, Min Min) SSBU Ultimate

[@nicstead3820]

Japan is crazy. Abadango (who hasn’t been super relevant) 3-0’ing arguably a top 3 player in the world with a character considered mid tier at best against a character widely considered top tier. Literally anything can happen any set which is what makes smash great.

[@Quake2815]

Tiers are who has the best matchups, not necessarily the best characters.

[@austinroccaro2219]

It just shows that Japan’s players are all on the same level while in Mexico the cream rises to the top. Mexico>>>japan.

[@georgesbouchet7430]

Abadango is kind of a bracket demon for ProtoBanham. They are familiar with each other playstyle iIrc. Plus, Meta Knight is not an easy matchup for Lucina and Min Min (I can confirm this as a Lucina main and an occasional Min Min player)

[@shavingrabbid]

Abadango was still the best Japanese player for a long time, he just wasn't entering things due to the embargo of having play tested the game.

[@voodooedits785]

Proto isn’t top 3

[@PuppetMasterIX]

For years, they laid dormant... But now THE ABADONGERS *RISE AGAIN* ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

[@nekosaiyajin8529]

Bro that emoji and the word "abadongers" are killing me

[@Donkne]

I remember rooting for Aba back in Smash 4 when he played Mewtwo and Pac-man, good to see him back and dominating!

[@rossfreeman808]

He played MK back then too

[@coolguyc4sey]

@@rossfreeman808 one of the reasons that character got nerfed

[@fupalover]

Proto wasn't lying when he said Japan have figured out Minmin. Minmin basically did nothing this whole tournament.

[@spinx6100]

Yeah for real, and his Lucina isn't as good as his Min Min most of the time, but since Japan has figured the counterplay against Min Min its almost better for him to stick to Lucina

[@fupalover]

@@lokks2130 He used all Lucina once he got sent to losers. Then Minmin 1 game vs Umeki and 1 game vs Aba.

[@voodooedits785]

@@lokks2130 he used lucina to get into losers top 8

[@janswhatsupdoc]

They figured her out faster than Leo did lmao

[@Simon-hs7ik]

Like min min missed to 8 at every Japanese major except 1 lol

[@gabrielnunez8504]

Abadango’s meta knight and now Leo’s joker! The saviors of ult are here

[@rmlgaming2091]

Bruh don't compare the mid tier breakout you're seeing here with a top-3 character return to the meta to beat other top-3 characters. Joker isn't saving anyone :|

[@EmptyHand49]

@@rmlgaming2091 He's not talking about tiers, he's talking about entertaining games

[@mtrebtreboschi5722]

And now Leo's meta knight!

[@gard8053]

This was the best and craziest set of this whole tournament!

[@WibbleWobbl]

A 3-0 wash was really the best set...? Yikes.

[@bryqi2229]

@@WibbleWobbl When an underdog is pimp slapping one of the best Ultimate players currently with a character that has not been anywhere near the meta, it’s pretty crazy.

[@Sancnea]

@@bryqi2229 To be fair, Abadango isn't the underdog in this particular matchup. I believe he's now 7-0 on Proto.

[@gard8053]

@@WibbleWobbl Wash? Man, both players are awesome. Abadango beating a player like Proto 3-0 was amazing in itself.

[@bryqi2229]

@@Sancnea He’s still an underdog in the match though because he hasn’t ‘proven’ himself like Proto has. He’s still whooping his ass 3-0, 0-to-death, 3 stock, etc. with a character that is used less than arguably any other character in the roster.

[@megasalexander5196]

Now this is hype and fun to watch, great set!!

[@defscanvas7633]

My king abadango and his mk is BACK

[@thekingbradable]

Bruh 30 seconds in and I’m already hype. Abadango is crazy lol

[@ukleleviln]

*Proto gets hit with an up air* Abadango: So you have chosen death?

[@randomguy1118]

I wonder if Leo can win in Japan as Leo and the others always have home advantage with the crowd on their side against these Japanese players

[@shrimppasta4345]

I think he would win tourneys but not as consistent as he does here. Japan the most competitive region

[@voodooedits785]

There’s no point in going to Japan with Covid cases rising

[@aether222A]

@@shrimppasta4345 universally, sure but in smash ultimate statistically America stays ahead because of a willingness to abuse mechanics where most Asian players have a tendency to play the game “as intended.”

[@elshaddollworld3941]

maybe if he uses joker more alongside byleth i can see leo doing it, but i see him having more trouble with their top players

[@Meroknight]

I think Leo in Japan would be similar to America. He would win some majors, and would have 2nd places here and there. I don't think Leo feels that the crowd is at his side except in Mexico.

[@brioche496]

I never thought I’d find myself rooting hard for a meta knight. Abadango was my favorite sm4sh pro player, glad to see him back and in loud fashion as well. Would love to see him up against Leo again at full power.

[@eunit08]

Meta Knight and Abadango getting the recognition they deserve!!!

[@_127N]

The best MK is Back. Y'all better learn the Matchup

[@beaviskpoptwicejihyo4711]

Abadango the hero we needed :)

[@booon15]

I think meta knight is extremely underrated character: multiple jumps, small hit box, great grab, up air combo kind of guarantee, excellent movement, great edge guarding capability, etc.

[@gogomiguelito]

and a disjoint

[@koolaidmanplz]

Abadango was Shmoooovin! MK looks GREAT in his hands lol

[@ぺちひろ]

読み合い回った3戦目で3タテカッコ良すぎるだんご

[@pempendayo]

まじわかるだんご

[@harukakyo8442]

Abadango's MetaKnight... Can't wait to see him in USA

[@plabcentral630]

Aba is crazy. Porto is a great player and it looked like he had no idea what to do.

[@moist_soup7215]

Dude I’ve been looking for a good reason to pick up meta knight because I’ve had a pocket mk for a while and I’ve been playing two low tiers for a while. This gives such inspiration to play him and practice cuz proto hardly even hit him with ladders or bridges to death and it was just pure neutral interactions. Such a beautiful display of this character

[@kyallon1213]

1. Meta knight v min min looks AWFUL for min min 2. Abadango going through the whole cast trying to find a main into making his best run by returning to his og (brawl and early ult) main is kinda poetic

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

I'm just realizing that characters who can stay in the air are the best matchup against Min Min. So the Pits, Meta Knight, Ridley, King Dedede, Jigglypuff and Sora look like hard counters because besides neutral air she has no way of properly covering above herself.

[@retierashia]

I love watching Abadango

[@kombard8007]

Even Proto cannot win Japanese tournaments on a consistent basis. There is no doubt that the level in Japan is the highest in the world.

[@Sancnea]

I feel like people saying this think Proto is some almighty demon because he beat MKLeo. While that's an amazing feat, it's not hard to compare Proto to ESAM. Did you all just forget that the same Proto lost to Fatality and Maister at Summit?

[@Sancnea]

@@Saint_Laurent1 Considering the fact that he had to start from Loser's bracket as a result, I call bs.

[@Sancnea]

@@Saint_Laurent1 If he truly wanted to sandbag, he wouldn't have even showed his Min Min until bracket. It's ok to accept that a player has great wins and not so great losses at the same time.

[@Sancnea]

@@Saint_Laurent1 Then please explain to me so that I too can understand.

[@Sancnea]

@@Saint_Laurent1 Explain to me why anyone would willingly place themselves in losers bracket? If anyone truly wanted to make themselves look weak, they'd still barely win enough matches to make it to winners and then lose from there or make the games close or something similar. It's ok to sandbag in friendlies, but not during actual tournament sets. Actually watching those sets should tell you that Proto was actually trying, but hey, I guess you really want to believe that he never could've actually lose to Fatality and Maister. Claiming Proto lost both of those matches on purpose is outrageous because it 1) Disregards all the work the other players put into beating him 2) Discredits him as a player cause you're basically telling everyone that he's not capable of winning against good players on equal terms (I absolutely do think he's capable of beating every player there). Did proto even confirm this or are you just making it all up? Cuz all of this just sends the wrong message at the end of the day.

[@billrodz1]

damn offstage looks brutal in this matchup for lucina

[@leondorado1439]

Dude, freakin' love Meta Knight

[@claytonmessinger6794]

The smash community upon seeing this "low-tier" character win 2nd at a major Japanese tournament: 👁👁

[@echospace7347]

What low tier

[@honathan2135]

@@echospace7347 meta Knight

[@TheLogBerry]

Good to see that Abadango is still godlike

[@TheKoopaBros]

Abadango is a LEGEND. I love the return of Metaknight. 😍

[@Vani-iy6sm]

メタナイト使うようになってから4戦4勝なんだよね.....

[@voodooedits785]

Mkleo take notes

[@tonytony3685]

TODs kept saying 3-0, 3-0 in the end...... no it was a 3-0 3 stock!!!!

[@andy764]

Hat off to Japanese players, the set is a great surprise to show how much potential a character can be in Smash 👍

[@jjk5693]

Isnt every smash character strong equally?

[@dami1970]

@@jjk5693 not at all

[@abich3857]

海外でも愛されてるやんあばだんご！

[@doge8153]

Watching the broken dlc get dismantled was so satisfying

[@fupalover]

TODs in Smash are more hype than any other fighting game.

[@Adam_U]

@@Sh1v3rIZAE Smash is a fighting game whether you like it or not lol

[@jannomeeuwessen4886]

@@Adam_U Amen

[@fupalover]

@@Sh1v3rIZAE Funny how a non fight game was the biggest game at the last in person EVO 🤔

[@zannax351]

@@Sh1v3rIZAE sakurai's prototype version of smash 64 was literally called "dragon king: the fighting game" and he got the idea for smash after playing kof and wanting to make a fighting game more accessible to newcomers, it is definitely a fighting game.

[@infernomaster1030]

@@Sh1v3rIZAE smash is a fighting game. They’re not dancing are they?

[@protonjones54]

Protoban: (Lucina 2/3 games) Editor: hmmm... Min Min thumbnail

[@VideoGameOwnage123]

The Abadango EMMM KAAY!

[@BlakeQuakeBeats]

I hope MKLeo sees this

[@Meroknight]

He was watching live lmao.

[@GameRock06]

Love watching min min getting destroyed

[@GoharioFTW]

Bro really just picked Min Min into metaknight. Comfort pick or not, got dam bro. That's tough

[@ringoyuri9387]

Abadango is back!!!!!

[@xxwallzxx4509]

Abadango chose a sleeper character. One of MKleos complaints about Meta Knight is that he has short TRex arms. But Meta Knight is actually strong. He has some great links and can still be played at a high level. Decisions and skill.

[@zer0luink]

This makes me want to play metaknight

[@outlaw3572]

Abadango played out of his mind with the ledge guards

[@_127N]

That's where MK shines.

[@f-gamer7880]

Whats your code?

[@Sargeofj00]

Oh look, people are realizing minmin has real flaws that make her nothing more than a counterpick char. Shocking

[@TheWallaBoy]

The chairs they were sitting in must not have been comfortable yall saw how they got up after the first round

[@sourcesymbiosismetamorphis2228]

Damn he moves so smooth that I get brawl PTSD....

[@ZlayfersShitpostBot]

Such an amazing set

[@kstixx7575]

Holy shh Japan meta is something else

[@muneebahmad2474]

Mexico>>>

[@Emiliasooo]

Imagine him with Brawl Meta Knight

[@josejaramillo3717]

no mames que putiza le dio Abandango a Protobanham ya lo quiero ver pelear contra MK Leo

[@afngalaxy7743]

Abadango makes meta knight look like he was in brawl lmao

[@NonRandomUser]

Abadongers raised.

[@dadaddy5308]

Min min has been downloaded

[@TheSignPainter500]

RAISE YOUR ABADONGERS

[@ojutay8375]

Proto got matchup checked hard. He barely punished Dimensional Cape. Tried edgeguarding MK which isn't smart unless you have multiple jumps to recover or a projectile. He also doesn't have a lot of laggy moves other than his specials so you have to be really patient

[@_127N]

I feel Like He was comfortable with Min Min and lost His faith in his Lucina.

[@letsmakeit110]

He was shielding DC at kill% because he was scared of Dimensional Cape attack, which is legitimate. That's why he was only getting grabs

[@keaton3258]

Proto has fought MK before, Abadangos too because he's been playing him for awhile. Japan isn't really that inexperienced with the MK MU. The reason people are afraid to punish Dcape is because you have to hard call it out or else you eat the sword version, which often times you're by the ledge which can end up killing you early

[@peppy619]

Min min is to the USA what olimar is to Europe: an opponent they still have to figure out

[@Latino_Burrito]

This is I kid you not the very first competitive meta knight I’ve seen for the passed 3 years ultimate has been out. I never thought I’d see one and tbh I didn’t think they existed, probably wasn’t looking hard enough but I never bothered if I’m being honest😂 IM EXTREMELY happy with what I saw though that was awesome a meta knight at this level is hype AF

[@claytonmessinger6794]

Check out Bonk! for his mk, he's CRAZY af

[@thundercharged1]

There's also Yei's Meta Knight, he best Maister with him back in 2020

[@山田竹吉]

ルキナはふわふわしてて即死入りやすいし麺は復帰弱いしメタナイトは復帰も阻止も強いしでバナムさんの手持ちにメタナイト刺さってるんだよな

[@rafaelnadal4836]

ルキナメタナイトは5分やで

[@nightarcher55]

KNOW HIS POWER

[@EmptyHand49]

Every time I hear someone scream Abandango I play the John Cena music in my head

[@みっつ-q4d]

back.

[@juniperrodley9843]

WELCOME TO BRAWL

[@kaitoshibata1749]

No offense to Proto, I'm sure he's a chill guy but God damn he really chose 2 of the most boring characters on the roster to main. Only missing Palutena and he's got the whole trio. Good shit from Aba. Inspiration to all Meta Knight mains. Keep up the good work.

[@07XJuvi]

Abadango is playing again? 😮

[@Stefanfreshhprince]

Night is back

[@gianz2066]

I thought meta knight always goes into free fall after he uses side B at 13:29? But It looks like aba could return after side B usage?

[@eugenio3048]

I think that it's because he landed the hit, so it didn't count. I think there are more moves like that, where if you DON'T Land it, you SD. But if you DO land it, you can continue to attack :)

[@j.prt.979]

He used f-air not side b. And no, MK still dies if he lands side b.

[@gianz2066]

@@j.prt.979 Oh I see now. Thanks

[@_127N]

@@eugenio3048 It was a Fair. Side B does indeed kill Metaknight offstage. He goes into freefall after His Side B unlike Captain Falcon for example.

[@TTG_JG]

I feel bad that my watch time, like and comment all go to the uploader. Wish it could've all gone to Abadango for this performance. Regardless thanks for the upload.

[@okWishFull]

LETS GOOOOO

[@xanander4693]

Fun fact meta knight is -1 for minmin 👀

[@marcof.5492]

Abadango the japanese GOAT 🐐

[@bienbenuto]

Smash ultimate is so balanced... You can't win with only one or two characters, that's something Leo saw and did what he needed, and that's the results... Leo winning in his region and proto... Well... I don't see here the 3rd world's best player. I know smash factor 9 doesn't compares to a super major, but Leo did what the true best only can do: make the crowd go crazy with the joker's return... Leo has taken latam, Us, canada, europe and japan, he has shown why he is the Best, this is not a lie that everyone want to beat him, practice to make true combos to his characters more than annyone and Leo still making top 3 in the most majors and super majors he enters. Simply the very Best.

[@zigaudrey]

Bridge/Ladder combo are overrated but this MK is entertaining. Along with Rufio, he mixes up depending on situation than to MK special and five jumps. He exploits what MK is able to do.

[@nordaemonn84]

How are true kill combos at 15-30% on pretty much the entire roster overrated? If anything it's the opposite.

[@biledox5576]

@@nordaemonn84 first, they're very hard, second, they're not true with di

[@zigaudrey]

@@nordaemonn84 The reason why I found RUFIO combo overrated is because many MK mains rely on this and it becomes predictable to the point that Dash Attack and Down Trow is the start of losing stock. He is more than that. It's from this fact alone that MK is placed lower tier. That's how the Metagame is: they are expecting a play style than exploiting what others things a character is able to do.

[@nordaemonn84]

@@biledox5576 You're correct about the difficulty. Your other statement is a common misconception, but entirely incorrect. You can only DI when sent into tumble, and neither MK's Uair or Dair causes tumble until past his combo window. You can SDI during hitstun, but with practice MK can still consistently follow up. ..suggesting ProtoBanham doesn't know how to DI properly is frankly hilarious 🤣

[@nordaemonn84]

@@zigaudrey I'd say that's more of a player problem than the combos being overrated, but I totally get your point. An MK that just fishes for DA's and grabs will swiftly get demolished by anyone competent. A proficent MK should be using other moves that you can follow up with dash or dthrow, or baiting the opponent into making punishable mistakes. If you're Dair camping, throw in a fastfall cancel to make it look like you're landing, and bait out a move. Condition them to shield your approach with properly spaced aerials, then go for a tomahawk grab. Your F-smash is one of, if not the best bait move in the game to purposefully whiff with. So yeah. IMO the combos aren't overrated, but I'm right there with you. Baddies with no neutral will never get the chance to land them on anyone with a brain, and the rest of his kit is just as important, if not more so.

[@tristanconn11]

that footstool was 100% on accident.. he was just exhausting all his jumps to avoid lucina but got one anyways

[@OmfgItsSteven]

Abadango is awesome

[@Simon-hs7ik]

Leo needs to return the mk to beat proto

[@xanander4693]

Tbf mkleo’s characters either go even or lose to Min Min. Except Rob

[@echospace7347]

@@xanander4693 Rob is a bag off ass vs min min most the time

[@JohnDoe-id5ih]

@@lokks2130 chill

[@theincredibleillmo9385]

Just remember that Metafy used to be the MKLeo’s Joker back in the days of Smash 4. Just saying… if he tries to touch this character once again, you are done guys.

[@echospace7347]

Metafy lmao

[@thekingbradable]

Ice man Proto acting he never seen that stage list in his life down 0-2 lol

[@sclark615]

:28 "Smash 4 Meta Knight"

[@stomorevs]

MKLeo watching this?!

[@CastafioreOnYoutube]

Commentary on the last stock lmfao

[@deidaranohits]

The amount of "likes" and "oh my Gods" and *giggles* from the one commentator was so distracting. Stick to commentating about the match and not fangirling over the players

[@_127N]

Commentators be Like "What is this Ball with Wings and a sword omg I have never Seen him before"

[@deidaranohits]

@@_127N I know. Just talk about their moves. (Also, as a Min Min player, I'm already acutely aware of how bad a matchup it is for her)

[@gintaro_smash]

let's go abadango!

[@aGRRaeio]

Min Min getting destroyed lately, glad to see it tbh

[@JackOLanter]

Santa Maria Madre de Dios!

[@marcof.5492]

Someone show this video to Leo

[@Meroknight]

Leo was watching live lol.

[@Sancnea]

@@Meroknight How do you know?

[@Meroknight]

@@Sancnea Because I watched the match on Hbox's stream, and L4st was there and said "Leo is watching it with me". L4st said "Leo has no plans to play MK". That's how I know.

[@Sancnea]

@@Meroknight Ah ok!! Yeah that makes sense.

[@Meroknight]

@@Sancnea Yeah, if you go to Hbox's twitch, the title of the past broadcast is: "$5,000 MELEE TOURNEY! MANG0 WORLD TOUR SOUTHEAST RUN!". Around the minute 12:13:12 and onward.

[@Punkin_Star]

DAmn, Abadango still playing Brawl.

[@jayzwrld_]

That MK vs minmin matchup did not look fun

[@kingaboninetails1461]

These Japan players are just Built Different lol

[@wizedome678]

DANGO

[@gmnhkdm]

revenge of abadango

[@Ella-to5vi]

Guarantee mkleo is about to start using MK vs the ugly minmin matchups

[@Ella-to5vi]

Calling it here ty.dmnd

[@josephtpg7329]

He picked the Joker against Dabuz, seems like that’ll be his go to for counterpicking Min Min.

[@jesusalejandrogarciagamez3243]

Take notes Mkleo.

[@ChrisM-vz4pe]

The King doesn’t need to take notes because his Joker alone can take out Proto’s Minmin smh…

[@juniperrodley9843]

Leo blitzed Proto's Lucina, literally took two stocks before getting hit at all

[@Meroknight]

I think Leo knows his joker would obliterate Banham's Min min. He stated that day that his joker was extremely rusty. But now it isn't.

[@Sancnea]

@@Meroknight You're making stuff up. His Joker wasn't rusty that day and he even proved it in the crew battle at Double Down. The dude was exhausted and chose the easier character to play in that moment as a hail mary (ROB btw) and it almost worked too. He said on stream (after double down) that Joker against Min Min is pretty hard too and was not as easy as he made it look at LTC. If you look through Pink Fresh's analysis of the Smash Factor set, you'll find that Dabuz wasn't doing what he needed to do to make that matchup hard for Joker.

[@Meroknight]

​@@Sancnea Not making anything up, I'm literally basing myself on what Leo said. He used it only in crews in DD precisely because it was rusty. I don't think Leo cares about crews as much as singles. And clearly Proto didn't either because he went Lucina instead of Min min. And given the fact that Leo's team was in high disadvantage when it was his turn to play, he had to use a character with a huge comeback factor. And yeah, his rusty joker obliterated Proto's Lucina, imagine that. He said his joker was rusty dusty on stream as well, plenty of times. But he trained his joker with cosmos days before Smash Factor, that is why he was confident in using it in grands against dabuz. His matches with cosmos are now on youtube. I think what happened is he got annoyed at people telling him to play joker against min min, so he gave people what they wanted, and in the process he would take notes. Dabuz's min min is not as good as Proto's, but it's still really good and serves as preparation against Proto. I think people forget how good Dabuz's Min min is.

[@nightarcher55]

Mk Leo gonna pick up meta knight to beat min min

[@brexs364]

Yoooooo smash 4 noises

[@mocast3407]

The Japan competition is just different

[@Eichro]

Abadango got tired of waiting for MKLeo to make his namesake look like a top tier again and decided to do it himself

[@Juan-zs6jt]

MK doesn't stand for Meta Knight. It is for his brother's shop.

[@Meroknight]

Yep, "MkLeo" has nothing to do with Meta Knight. It's "Monster Kingdom", his bros business.

[@Eichro]

are you kidding me, guy started with metaknight and his tag's MKLeo and the MK does not stand for Meta Knight?? dang i had no idea what are the chances

[@4everover]

abadango meta knight