I'm sorry, but love is not obsession, love is not controlling; most of all, love is not abusive. Love is letting go when s/he doesn't want to be with you anymore. Sometimes, love can be the hardest thing in the world to walk away from.
@josiefarnam91552 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this... While I'm not a religious person, I absolutely love and agree with "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
@peggymetzger91972 жыл бұрын
Exactement 👍 Kiss from France
@peanutbutterpancakes72 жыл бұрын
This also should be applied to other areas in life, not just romance. Like for example, psycho toxic family members that you cut off but they just won't let you live.
@babyboyz1002 жыл бұрын
Yes! Plus they were never an actual couple. He did his own thing and she did hers. So she loved him more than Joe who took her in and cared for her and Javi who took on her and Isaac and married her! She is crazy if she thinks that's love. Or its a very one sided love.
@janicemurray232 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, in my case, especially if you are in love with a narcissist, and I was. I think it’s the other way round with Kayle, it’s seriously scary to observe, on television and on social media.
@compka932 жыл бұрын
I do not believe Chris is the only man she loves. Chris is the only man she can not control and does not want her on a steady basis.
@janebaker49122 жыл бұрын
😵✨
@lalandrav60852 жыл бұрын
I’m saying … so she just married someone from JUST liking them🤦🏽♀️😂
@melissaclemons96532 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why Kail says she won’t date someone with kids when she has 4 by 3 different men. I think that’s hypocritical. I have 2 kids by 1 man and I only want to date men with kids because they understand the sacrifice and responsibility.
@Amanda_6272 жыл бұрын
She’d be stuck with the mother being someone like her. Imagine all the pettiness
@heatherwarden26892 жыл бұрын
@@Amanda_627 yes And obviously because kail is the Queen of everything
@kindasavvy45662 жыл бұрын
No responsible level-headed father would want to date kail anyways so I think she’s got nothing to worry about.
@justinejustice_league18572 жыл бұрын
Blended families are a wonderful thing when the adults are mature and working as a solid unit, unfortunately that is never going to be Kail. She likes to keep alot of drama going amongst groups and I find it odd that she's only found love in a man who had nothing to offer himself or her family. Being with a person who has kids from a previous relationship works when they understand respect and is comfortable with setting those necessary boundaries. They are capable of making your life easier and bring those necessities to the table. If one can't accomplish these things there will always be problems and contention.
@faithbustos6112 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to.. I have a daughter.. I would never date someone with kids. just how anyone is entitled to not even look my way because I have a daughter. it’s personal decision. i have plenty of reasons why I would never date a man with kids.
@MR-xd1wg2 жыл бұрын
She’s not a catch, she just got money. Humble yourself Kail.
@justinebailey53332 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@bridykes99862 жыл бұрын
100 percent
@janebaker49122 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️
@toriyt27142 жыл бұрын
Honestly Kail and Chris derailed both each other’s lives.
@Erin___M2 жыл бұрын
🎯
@LadyNightsong2 жыл бұрын
Wait, she's got four of her own yet won't date a man w/ kids?! Here's the thing, a man who is in her $1-2mil income bracket is probably going to be dating younger, more attractive, no kids, no drama, available to travel, etc. I'd never shame a woman for her preferences, but I think Kail's a bit delusional LOL
@alos.h2562 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Someone educated who has a career and their own shit may not want to date a divorce woman with multiple baby daddies.
@kenneyp.94562 жыл бұрын
Men with money always date younger and they definitely not dating women with kids
@comment53982 жыл бұрын
Please omit the probably lol Everything else is spot on.
@okletstalk13722 жыл бұрын
Right look at Nikki M
@desireesanchez-hinojos95322 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. But i know why. She’s so self centered that she’d be in competition with a mans kids. So im kinda glad she’s not into a man with kids.
@honestea8632 жыл бұрын
Vee is truly a saint 😂 never in a million years would I ever put up with kails bs let alone befriend her
@cherrygirl642 жыл бұрын
Our confusion about Chris being the love of her life is because Kail doesn't know what love really is. She can keep SAYING it but does she ever say WHY? No and if she mentioned that he has nothing, lives in grandmas attic and is abusive well then we can understand how Kail sees love. Her father was never present so her reliving that with Chris thinking she can fix the past is psych 101. Kail needs a new therapist because this is basic self growth.
@alyssahamlett2 жыл бұрын
Preach!!! I Def agree she wants Chris so bad cause he doesn't want her..daddy issues 101
@bmad86912 жыл бұрын
When you have kids you learn what love really is. But I think she just has kids to control these men and get their money.
@AbsoluteMdot2 жыл бұрын
That Narcissist Kail got served Karma on a silver platter! You cannot do people dirty and expect to live a happy life
@leege42572 жыл бұрын
I think it made her feel powerful to have everything on a deadbeat
@elizabethr6312 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment this!!
@janebaker49122 жыл бұрын
Yes! Exactly
@hermionehp11002 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong that I'm waiting for Bri to announce she's pregnant with Chris' daughter?
@yup_im_tiff2 жыл бұрын
I’d be here for it 😂😂😂
@daniellew56842 жыл бұрын
Nope not at all
@kesh77112 жыл бұрын
OMG that would be a brilliant storyline & give the show some excitement
@justinebailey53332 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆😆
@homework19922 жыл бұрын
The way I just SCREAMED!!! Oh wee, she’d be SICK!!!
@audriimckenzie56712 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny how people bash Chris and talk about how KAIL CAN DO BETTER WHEN KAIL ISNT A PRIZE HERSELF!! She has deep personal issues with herself that she needs to get in order to be happy with other people. SHE IS WHAT SHE ATTRACTS!! Pure miserableness!! Nobody should be getting put on a HIGH HORSE because both of them make horrible decisions.
@vee34972 жыл бұрын
Not anywhere near a prize! Lol its crazy how she never takes accountability for the dumb decisions she makes and instead blames Chris lol or Lauren and don't get me started on how she is obsessed with trying to prove something to Brianna lol
@bellaxoxo52712 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why Kail is so upsest with him is because he did not chase her unlike Javi did. She met her match with him. Sometimes u want what you can't have or keep!
@yup_im_tiff2 жыл бұрын
Never thought of it like that. Good point
@valjv51912 жыл бұрын
exactly!!! i was gonna comment almost the same thing!
@brooke31402 жыл бұрын
She wants him because he doesnt want her. She likes the "challenge". She thrives off crazy
@lisawhitt7882 жыл бұрын
Yea Joe upgraded with vee she's pretty
@kaytea15032 жыл бұрын
The sad thing for Kail, is I truly don’t think she’s experienced real love apart from her children. Even then, children can not fill the void this girl will always have deep down.
@queenmanda042 жыл бұрын
I think she’s obsessed with him cause he wasn’t interested in her like she was with him. Just like she was with Jo, hating on Vee for the longest and then finally got over him by being with Javi. Javi was always into her so she wasn’t interested
@kesh77112 жыл бұрын
Kail lies, I don't believe what she spews. Which man with or without money would want to be with a woman who's controlling, abusive, hypocritical & a known cheater ? She treated Javi & Joe so pathetically & Chris is her Karma nobody forced her to have 2 kids with a man who clearly never wanted her, you can't buy love.
@bellaxoxo52712 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think it's weird that Vee is on a podcast with Kail even after Kail beefs with her husband and talks shit? It couldn't be me jus sayin🤷♀️
@Amanda_6272 жыл бұрын
I think she’s just securing money for her family
@alos.h2562 жыл бұрын
I have always thought it's a bit weird. Sometimes I can't even stand Vee when she kisses kails ass too much.
@CarolinaGomez-bo6ur2 жыл бұрын
I think she only does it for the $. At the end of the day, she knows she has to keep the peace & have some sort of relationship with her because of Isaac so might as well make $ too.
@bellaxoxo52712 жыл бұрын
I dunno I jus figure it would be too much stress & cause problems in her household w/Joe. Kails always talking disrespectful on him. Is the money worth that? For me I couldn't do it. I wouldn't even want Kail the girl who is so disrespectful to my husband be my boss nor would I want to work with her. Vee could start her own channel and make some $$$? She don't need Kail & her drama
@zebramilktea2 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious that Chris was her “one that ran away”. Girl would literally combust if she couldn’t talk about this man.
@vee34972 жыл бұрын
Say he RAN! Lol 😂😂
@crystalthesocialworker2 жыл бұрын
It’s unrealistic for Kail with 4 kids by 3 dudes, to think a man with no kids is gonna date her.. if they do they will never take her seriously.
@canadianmom94042 жыл бұрын
Omg lol listening to her say she loves him and then runs a train on him online sounds like an emotionally abusive relationship
@bridykes99862 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's normal haha
@kimberlypaul36562 жыл бұрын
Should any spouse love their partner without any conditions? Because if my spouse switched it up and changed his values that would matter. A lot.
@CarolinaGomez-bo6ur2 жыл бұрын
I use to think my love was unconditionally, but after some thought I guess not lmao 😂 cause I too would feel some type of way if my husband switched up.
@comment53982 жыл бұрын
She wants him and loves him because he treats her like crap. Look at how the other guys treated her compared to him. Joe's family took her in and Javi joined the military with thoughts of helping her family out with his benefits. She like many chics like her are damaged. She'll eat you alive if she senses weak heart or what normal people see as kind. She lacked a father figure growing up and this leads to falling for guys like this. He is a predator also that chooses chics like this. I feel this karma for how she treated her exes.
@mallorilesseski86762 жыл бұрын
Very well said, I think they didn’t “need her”. They could take care of themselves and I think she secretly loved that Chris didn’t have everything so she had to take care of him. It gave her power because she grew up with nothing and relying on other people to take care of her. Also my theory as to why she has so many babies. I pray for her future daughter/son in laws
@comment53982 жыл бұрын
@@mallorilesseski8676 Thank you. I agree with your assessment also. I think that makes alot of sense. I could easily see her having another child by him or another guy like him.
@LadyNightsong2 жыл бұрын
Javi was mostly a good guy. I think she really pushed him away when she went to college. Yeah maybe he wasn't "exciting" all the time but he really stepped up and tried to be a good father to his stepson and to this day, they are close. She screwed up-never gonna find a guy like that again with 4 kids in tow😂
@lamikaeubanks45182 жыл бұрын
Why does she continue to embarrass Isaac like this 🤦🏾♀️.
@TrishaCyrus2 жыл бұрын
I just don’t get why he bothered to go to college when he didn’t intend on ever working.
@kaylao.33262 жыл бұрын
Kail really has a thing for Hispanic dudes I see
@yup_im_tiff2 жыл бұрын
All different types as long as their Hispanic 😂😂😂
@myabushnes92162 жыл бұрын
Chris is black, so there’s that. Your racism is showing
@Brvnda2 жыл бұрын
@@myabushnes9216 chris is definitely afro-latino & how is that statement racist? loool
@josiefarnam91552 жыл бұрын
She wanted him because she can hold so much power over him. In her mind, this person, who has nothing, couldn't possibly l leave her. He would be so grateful for all the money and clout she has that he wouldn't DARE leave her. She's with Chris thinking that he couldn't want to leave her because she has everything he doesn't have. She might have had options but someone who is smart and had things going on for them... Well, they can't be as easily manipulative and they aren't going to NEED her like she thought Chris did
@Mrsh3n12 жыл бұрын
Grace 😂 I love your channel!!! It means so much to me!!! The whole R part got me crackin up n the middle of the night folding all these clothes!!! Wish I caught the live! I need to be a channel member!
@bkidwill74232 жыл бұрын
I have 4 kids , and WILL NEVER date a man with children if my husband and I God forbid divorce. BECAUSE OF BABY MOMMAS LIKE HER . Women in my age range are still immature and spiteful with their BD and I can not and will not deal with the drama. I'll be alone. And raise my kids.
@myabushnes92162 жыл бұрын
You real low talking about big standards girl, stay in your 4 kid lane
@bkidwill74232 жыл бұрын
@@myabushnes9216 now poeple can't have standards 😂 lawd. That's why people stay getting played. Just like I don't want people with kids same goes for others. They can steer clear of me and mines.
@justpeachy08022 жыл бұрын
Can confirm. I've been with my S.O for 10 years now and it's STILL a sh*t show with his baby mama that he divorced like 15 years ago 😪 0/10. Would not recommend.
@amandamartin89792 жыл бұрын
Are kail and amber seeing the same therapist cause they both need refunds
@user-pt9dy2rd7m2 жыл бұрын
She doesn't want a man with kids because because she thinks all bd love their bms and she has jealously issue so at least shes being self aware and I'm sure there's one man who would want to date her but definitely not no millionaire
@heatherwarden26892 жыл бұрын
Yeah She thinks everyone is like her Not everyone has narcissistic petty jealousy issues kailyn
@kimberlyroller222 жыл бұрын
Grace, I need a shirt that says "I digress!"
@JLM4982 жыл бұрын
Haha yes!!
@cratcliff88202 жыл бұрын
I feel like if Chris actually treated her well, she would’ve sabataged the relationship, left him, and claimed she never loved him. She didn’t love him, she loved the idea of him.
@hcrescenzo22 жыл бұрын
" and where did that get her...sorry that's rude" 😂😂🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️ GRACCCCCE!!!!
@GraceReport2 жыл бұрын
All that privilege just to end up living in her sisters shadow on a trashy teen pregnancy show 😂😂😭😭😂😩
@hcrescenzo22 жыл бұрын
@@GraceReport you are not lying!!! 💯
@neibaretolaza2 жыл бұрын
Who Is worse lol Tristan Thomson or Chris Lopez 😂😂😂
@amyjernigan88502 жыл бұрын
Did she really say I don't date people with kids but she expects a guy to date her and she has kids? Wtf? Double standard?
@RomanzRage2 жыл бұрын
Dating a scrub???? Baby we done moved far pass dating after 2 babies 🤣
@allishaw__2 жыл бұрын
Chris posted on his Instagram a couple months back (like April) where he said he & Briana recorded an episode of his podcast… however it didn’t get released due to the lawsuit or Kail stopped it from being released.
@yup_im_tiff2 жыл бұрын
I like to see their lives but at this point they not living the same life/live style of actual teen moms.
@dinnahenna41632 жыл бұрын
Every time she says this Chris now he can continue to act a fool
@okletstalk13722 жыл бұрын
because SHE wants all the control, that's way she wanted a men that doesn't have anything
@tonyahenry51982 жыл бұрын
He don’t even take care of his kids , what do you love about him 🤷🏽♀️ he’s a bum
@rebeccajensen19912 жыл бұрын
Her elbow in the pics hahahahah
@HollywoodDeliPodcast2 жыл бұрын
I believe Chris would of stayed out the lawsuit if she wasn’t slandering him.
@cewe20032 жыл бұрын
I am laughing so hard over Grace’s ‘R’ voice as she reads the website. This is classic! Lmao.
@GraceReport2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@thoughtprocess29182 жыл бұрын
I would never watch a Kail live, however I love yours ❤️
@vee34972 жыл бұрын
Kail aka the Queen of Cap
@esotericjp2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think Kail should have been born a dusty crusty man. They way she approaches dating reminds me of the many men I’ve met with multiple kids who wanted to pursue me because I had none. Like… sir, you want a girlfriend with no kids. If it happens it happens but, don’t go scouting to make someone new a baby mother. Also, I grew up in the same area as Cheyenne, and I can tell based off where she’s from, she ain’t no damn classy lmao.
@peanutbutterpancakes72 жыл бұрын
Cheyenne is far from classy.
@janebaker49122 жыл бұрын
Oh god! If you have no kids. Do. Not. Date. A . Guy with kids! I did it and it aged me ten years!!!
@angelanojellybeans64812 жыл бұрын
None of them with her. There's her answer as it relates to her sex scale
@Erin___M2 жыл бұрын
😩😩🤣🤣 Exactly!
@hcrescenzo22 жыл бұрын
"R's" biography sounds like a fairytale lol
@GraceReport2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@PS-ob7uw2 жыл бұрын
She not in love just obsessed. he's the only one who didn't follow behind her. She had to chase him. It's cause she couldn't turn him down the way she did the other two.
@daniellegrasso87822 жыл бұрын
I think kail and Chris had a very toxic, abusive relationship. We all know someone like this. A woman who puts up with this toxicity because they believe they love the man or want it to work so badly. Kail is not different than any other woman in this situation. We can be disappointed that she put herself in this situation but I also have compassion for her. I'm glad she is in therapy and it isn't up to us to judge how her therapy is working or not.
@CS-pi5oc2 жыл бұрын
This is the deal…one sided love. You have to redirect that love. It’s the same as pouring your adoration on a rotted stump. Kail acts foolish, rinses and repeats.
@GraceReport2 жыл бұрын
💯
@nicolejanine32092 жыл бұрын
Messy people like being messy that’s what bri and Chris are messy and they do it better than kail
@anniel91262 жыл бұрын
Unemployed men have the best **** ! They have lots of energy from sitting around
@alyssahamlett2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@colleen12192 жыл бұрын
We are all here because we enjoy Grace’s channel. However if she said she to us. I’m gong to have my past partners on to rate me. I would think she was losing it. Genuinely think kail’s grip on reality is getting weaker. It’s tremendously sad. I don’t know if she would even acknowledge that something mentally is going on with her.
@raquellambropoulos2792 жыл бұрын
Kail thinks a single man with no kids is going to find her irresistible with her army at home ? Also knowing the entire relationship with her will be picked apart on social media and the show ? She better take what she can get .
@jhamp2442 жыл бұрын
If she ever gets Chris, she will dump him.
@natalyynataliee29872 жыл бұрын
Grace you are amazing with each and every one of your recaps! I'm always cacklinggg!😂 And when you asked if we caught Lauren's elbow in one of Javi's stories for Thanksgiving I passed away lmao love you so much!🥰💛💛💛
@mindylopez31632 жыл бұрын
Any man without a job or house are bout to show up at kail door 🤣
@yup_im_tiff2 жыл бұрын
Right who goes on a date without asking a few questions to find out if they’re datable 1st
@reyp.freeman5302 жыл бұрын
Kail and chris is like khloe and tristan that shit isnt it .
@reds10132 жыл бұрын
That’s utter bs . My husband has no money or house and I love him more than life we’ve been together for well over 20 years and are still crazy about each other
@BluntSpeaker2 жыл бұрын
Bs. She was married & still messes with her ex husband years after divorce. Plus Chris is horrible
@BleuEye2 жыл бұрын
Kail has no shame or self-awareness to carry on like this for a man who’s never wanted her when she’s always had all those kids at home who do!
@sweetheart46822 жыл бұрын
Towards the Ending of the video I couldn’t stop laughing 😂.
@catherinehanson11062 жыл бұрын
& sucks that she outsources to other countries for CHEAPER prices/product instead of creating jobs in her country...she could give the unemployed or homeless a position
@savannahweinstein1112 жыл бұрын
The “would she let that go” when Amber said she is the start of the franchise 😂😂
@alyssahamlett2 жыл бұрын
Why r they forever trying to keep this dead show going
@traceyalobo1232 жыл бұрын
Out of all your baby daddy the one that don’t want you And never took you serious is the one you love
@dellawatson16692 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how R can do all of these things without a university education.
@danyelpickett21912 жыл бұрын
She also continues to say that so he will continue to come back to her.
@tammydistefano81782 жыл бұрын
Did you ever think that MTV ruined these girls lives?? Yes they have money from the show! But how healthy can it be that filming at 16 yrs old? These were troubled girls from the start that should of had supportive care for mental health from their efff up family trauma!!!! MTV literally raised them
@somethingyouforgot64432 жыл бұрын
Or lack there of😂
@EyeofSekhmet2 жыл бұрын
Brianna has such low self-esteem, that she thinks that, everytime she steals someone else's boyfriend or husband, that she is somehow winning at life...😐
@baditudexo16572 жыл бұрын
I can tell Vee was SO uncomfortable lol kail sounded desperate af
@MaraJadeSkky2 жыл бұрын
Of course Leah's new boo got his shades on😂 gotta plug his swag
@nicolerice88812 жыл бұрын
I saw Kaitlyn is part of the preview so I don’t think those legs belong to her, I believe it’s KAIL. How much you wanna bet it’s her.
@anitawilson10532 жыл бұрын
I've said it once, I'll say it again... R Kyle? What's that? 🤔
@midnightmisfitskellyg.51702 жыл бұрын
Kail a man doesn't wanna be chased a man wants to be the hunter.
@ashleyg69762 жыл бұрын
It is kinda weird Amber makes a living off being a deadbeat parent
@saracotto33142 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about a show called unexpected!!
@chris-tinav48522 жыл бұрын
It’s pathetic at this point… she needs to get over it
@ss844152 жыл бұрын
That blog. Omfg lol
@MszEveryShot2 жыл бұрын
*GRACE* I know this is late by 2 months but I just seen it... can you find someone who got this epispde of her podcast!? Pasted-Teen Mom Kailyn Lowry recorded & DELETED heated podcast episode with Vee Rivera after she slammed co-host's husband Jo. KAILYN Lowry and Vee Rivera DELETED their last Baby Mamas No Drama podcast episode as they claimed it turned into a "therapy" session and shouldn't be shared with the public.Oct 26, 2021
@yup_im_tiff2 жыл бұрын
Leah ex husband isn’t going to like that black boyfriend
@myabushnes92162 жыл бұрын
Nope not her other baby dad, they racist as hell
@crystalvalenzuela20832 жыл бұрын
How can I sign up for exclusive videos ?
@chillichew57122 жыл бұрын
I am so beyond confused when Amber goes around claiming that it's because of her that everyone has this show and this money. There were four girls it wasn't just Amber she really needs to just get over herself
@delanoerin87992 жыл бұрын
Oh no! Not Kail simping over Chris 😭😭😭
@amyjernigan88502 жыл бұрын
I can't stand Jade. All that money she spent on her body instead of her daughter
@samanthasapato1232 жыл бұрын
Why does R feel the need to step on others to make herself feel big?
@kjl18912 жыл бұрын
I hate seeing black women who are educated and have money date and marry down. But because it’s Kail idc lol
@thisismyinferno2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Erin___M2 жыл бұрын
😩🤣🤣
@samanthamae46312 жыл бұрын
Not only do they allow them to all get together and seem to be okay with booze... they ENCOURAGE IT. -_-
@alejandrajimenez75342 жыл бұрын
she doesnt date men with kids? but she has 4?
@myabushnes92162 жыл бұрын
And 3 baby daddies
@KMA8232 жыл бұрын
Cheyenne’s podcast has TOO many commercials 😵💫
@lalandrav60852 жыл бұрын
So she was in love with the only man that didn’t want her??😂
@saracotto33142 жыл бұрын
Sooo much drama there
@billik1322 жыл бұрын
Maybe Bre wanted one of those cute baby BOYS 😇😇😇 or just practicing ??
Max drama = bring bk janelle 😳can’t say everyone if there’s no drama from new eason
@saracotto33142 жыл бұрын
* mrs Eason
@scottishsloth39812 жыл бұрын
Only ecause she would want him back wouldn't be news if they got back but don't go back with her Chris she's a mess
@abbybrown6382 жыл бұрын
Maybe she should have gone to college... even in community College they teach you a piece of writing has to have a point and supporting details. If I'm looking for a financial planner I don't care when they walked first or if they can walk at all for that matter.
@abbybrown6382 жыл бұрын
@@carol-annesomerville7880 I was talking about Cheyenne sister.
@MR-xd1wg2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you’re so cute Grace, the way you paused a bit saying “what o assumed was pillow talk” 😂😂😅😅