Panasonic Lumix S9: It's Compact, Full Frame and Brilliant...if you can overcome these things.

[@ohwhoaitzjoe]

This episode brings back the DR nostalgia for some reason.

[@emricquito5107]

Asia hits different.

[@ikoyDaPnoy]

Where's Alamby?! lol jk.

[@SMGJohn]

I agree, something happens with these two when they are back in familiar territory (Yes I know HK is not exactly like Japan) Their UK videos are, I must say, they lack the energy and the characteristic chaotic nature these two have when they did DR in the olden days. Kind of surprised they did not move to Taiwan which is far more familiar to HK, share a lot of the same laws and while does not speak Canton as much its still culturally similar.

[@alexandrfedorov4565]

UK feels depressing, HK/Japan are much more vibrant and lively.

[@NickSale-q6y]

Only difference is their interaction, I think back then it was funnier when Lok was the stoic guy while Kai is outrageous and play tricks on Lok.

[@fadiheterjag]

My main gripe with this camera is that it’s made with a lot of compromises all for the sake of making it full frame (because KZbinrs love that), while it could have been a M43 camera with a lot fewer compromises such as a hell of a lot of compact lenses already there for it, a mechanical shutter and even room for an evf. A bit of a missed opportunity to make a really cool M43 camera in my opinion…

[@wakeywarrior]

M43 is dead. G9 mkII sold poorly.

[@fadiheterjag]

@@wakeywarrior I don’t have sales numbers but from an outcome perspective there is nothing wrong with M43, it’s just that KZbinrs have been harping on about full frame so much that everyone now thinks that you need full frame above everything else, even if it comes at the expense of actually useful shit you want to have in your camera 🤷‍♂️

[@wakeywarrior]

@@fadiheterjag I’ve had many cameras, including a G9. But full frame offers many serious advantages - mainly that image quality and low light performance. I think we’ve seen the last of full size M34, now it will be used in cheaper compacts only. APSC is a significant step up over M43 and makes more sense and I think that will remain the ‘budget’ ‘proper camera’ sensor for a while.

[@fadiheterjag]

@@wakeywarrior "Cheaper compact" is exactly what the S9 is, is it not?

[@wakeywarrior]

@@fadiheterjag I mean as in a $300 -$500 camera. The S9 is hugely expensive for most people. The M43 will be in those much cheaper cameras.

[@ComUnSas]

Released with an f8 26mm lens to take advantage of its full frame to generate some super dreamy bokeh 😅. Stick something longer and faster on it and discover that full frame lenses are a lot harder to shrink than camera bodies. This is a camera for people who dont know what they want and are willing to pay top dollar for it

[@replaygoplay7919]

The release of the lumixts9 really shows who has integrity and whosya shill on KZbin

[@Centauri27]

"to generate some super dreamy bokeh"--with the f/8 pancake? I assume you had your tongue firmly planted in your cheek here... (complete with an eye roll) 😉

[@krishnakumarr9619]

26mm f8 was made just for getting product shots of the s9 with a pancake lens.

[@MPD90]

True tbh. The lens makes no sense, no point going FF just to put F8 glass in front of it.

[@VoltLover00]

Who tf is that lens for?

[@GungKrisna12]

Meanwhile both Canon and Nikon managed to make f/2.8 auto-focusing pancakes

[@christophmuller3511]

@@GungKrisna12autofocusing and with an aperture.

[@spacelord1913]

lol ikr, it don't even got a filter thread

[@Skux720]

26mm f/8 is a joke when both Canon and Nikon have f/2.8 pancake lenses

[@stalman]

Yeah this is a miss. Sigma is picking up their slack

[@MPD90]

Not only f/8, it's only manual focus...!

[@donflamingo795]

Even Chinese manufacturers make 2.8 compact lenses.

[@ubacow7109]

i mean it is free, im sure there will b various versions of the same lens as well

[@MPD90]

@@ubacow7109 it’s not free. It has a price for separate purchase and is priced in if buying the camera with the lens..

[@beyondthecutworldwide1]

"Happy go lucky IG folks that likes hanging by cliff edges" dude, Kai's writing still at his best. Jokes aside, I want one now.

[@SMGJohn]

Why? And what for do you want one?

[@beyondthecutworldwide1]

@@SMGJohn Dual iso, full frame, always in my pocket, capable of 4:2:2 recording? For my work it would be fantastic. I often shoot random plate for VFX. Carrying a R5 at all time is not realistic, but having that S9 in my backpack would be lovely

[@SMGJohn]

@@beyondthecutworldwide1 Fair enough, I suppose for quick shoots like that its more than capable.

[@oetproductions8101]

Hanging by a cliff edge and edging rn

[@beyondthecutworldwide1]

@@SMGJohn also, it screams a little less "mug me"

[@shogoth]

Ha, one more memory. I remember when I needed 4k, and GX80 just came out... It was very well priced, but I wasn't really happy about this modern Leica like design... But comparing to this atrocity, GX80 is beautiful!

[@vermis8344]

No evf, no mechanical shutter, no hot shoe, etc etc... Yup, it's definitely a tiktoker-tier camera.

[@VoltLover00]

Such a dumb camera

[@fotografalexandernikolis]

And complete lack of grip, which makes no sense on a camera with protruding lenses anyway.

[@Thefuror38500]

This could be a really great camera for landscape astrophotography. Since you basically just need a sensor and a screen, all the rest is useless. If the internal software is not doing too many modifications to the raw files, obviously.

[@griegomas]

The lack of a shutter will create banding in tiktoker-relevant scenarios - there are already reports of it.

[@traveldopes]

@@VoltLover00get an A1

[@Ottointtl]

Panasonic has recognized the market that everyone else has missed. The need for a blue, green, red or black FF interchangeable lens mirrorless camera that does not have a viewfinder. Kudos Panasonic, kudos.

[@sauzefilms]

ohh and dont forget, vloggers LOVE slow f8 pancake lenses with manual focus capabilities. Panny boi is truly the camera company of all time. love the sarcasm tho lol.

[@9billiondogs]

mmmmmm i love a camera with no viewfinder, no ability to use flash and an f8 manual focus lens combo so i can only shoot in bright conditions where I have to heavily squint to get focus using only the screen 😍

[@Ferunetto]

You copy and paste this comment in all Panasonic S9 videos?

[@Ottointtl]

@@Ferunetto is that a question. You can't figure it out?

[@replaygoplay7919]

ah yes a ff with horrible battery life ,no evf and recording limits🤡

[@Gremlack13]

That pancake lens being a f8 is insane. There are many pancake lenses for various brands that are 1.8. 2.8, and otherwise. F8 is unacceptable.

[@MPD90]

1.8 pancake full frame reference model please?

[@SMGJohn]

@@MPD90 Stop being such a lazy toss and look it up.

[@borderlands6606]

@@MPD90 Nikon made a 50mm f1.8 Series E pancake lens.

[@albert_gyorgy]

​@@borderlands6606 That's an SLR lens with a much larger flange distance. I doubt it would be possible to make for mirrorless cameras with decent image quality at least.

[@borderlands6606]

@@albert_gyorgy I was under the impression that decreased flange distance of mirrorless cameras made lenses more compact, not less. The Fuji X100 series has an aperture of f2 in aps-c, and m43 has a 1.7 lens. I fail to see why Panasonic cannot make a compact, high quality short focal distance lens with a f3.5 aperture, but it would cost more than the budget f8.

[@TimHunold]

Bokeh Bros are now the Lut Nuts

[@veivoli]

@TimHunold Is that what he said? I'm a wee bit hard of hearing (long story involving a rifle), bit I could have sworn they said "LUT sluts"... 🙂📷 Note: Camera emoji *without* a flash!!

[@kennyadvocat]

Sad they didn't make a new M43 camera instead.

[@albert_gyorgy]

This really should've been a M43 camera

[@anothorestes]

It's like a leica for people who don't like photography

[@9billiondogs]

or video with all those recording limits

[@Malick333]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Opulentvlog]

😂

[@Coup0705]

Big mistake without the viewfinder. The main marketing for Fuji xv100 series was the retro style of taking photos.

[@TomCalton]

I can confirm, my pants remain dry. Which is a shame because I packed my wipe clean boxers for the trip in anticipation. Nevermind. At least it was great meeting you guys in Japan 👋🏻

[@DS-cf1zc]

For the audience its meant to be there for - this looks like a lovely bit of kit. However, add an EVF, and a fixed lens, perhaps even the mechanical shutter - and you have something to compete with the Fuji x100 series, and I would suggest a replacement for the Leica CL/X series.

[@VoltLover00]

X100 and Leica cameras are trash. They pale in comparison to an A7C

[@DS-cf1zc]

@@VoltLover00 I see it differently, probably like many, I have used Sony cameras, and have no love them - they are soulless, and yes they give decent results, but so does a Leica, Nikon, Fuji or Canon. They are certainly not trash when you look at award winning images worldwide.

[@jazzechos1372]

I have been watching Kai and Loc since their days way back in Hong Kong when it was Kai, Loc and Alamby @ DigitalRev...Kai and Loc still produce the most informative videos that are completely unbiased. Yes I do agree that Kai is starting to adopt a Chinese dad style of walking.

[@demasrusli]

So awesome meeting you in Osaka! Always a great and entertaining video 😀

[@CartyCantDance]

This looks great for the next generation of photographers who are used to phone shooting without EVF. Anyone who has established their style of shooting already clearly doesn’t need this camera, but it looks like a lot of fun. I have 2 s5ii’s don’t think I’ll “upgrade”

[@PavSZ]

such a good and entertaining review! It was good to see you both in person again

[@julianlopez85]

omg i remember you guys from digital rev years ago, i bought the fuji xm1 way back after watching your video in HK. I stopped watching the channel after you guys left. Funny i saw your video suddenly on my feed and the two of you are back together again. Really glad you guys kept it going.

[@MrQwertypoiuyty]

I bought this camera 3 weeks back as a backup camera to my A7R IV, as I was sold to its small and light form factor. People told me that I just wasted my money as I can buy the A7C II instead since I can use the same lens of my A7R IV. But I just want a light FF CAMERA (sorry X100VI) and try another ecosystem. Long story short: it didn't disappoint. The light, small form factor made it really enjoyable to it bring everyday, with a small bag. And during the weekends, I carry both cameras - with the A7R IV and its lens mainstay Tamron 20-40mm, and the S9 with the 90mm 2.8 Sigma. This combination resulted to an unbelievable light load of 1.8kg only, and that's carrying two FF cameras with the best lightweight zoom and prime lenses in the market. The fun side of this is that I don't have to change lenses which I find to be an inconvenient hassle all the time when I shoot exclusively with A7R IV. Gone are the days of carrying a 3.5 kg load of 1 DSLR camera and 2 lenses! I also do think that my combo is much lighter than a Canon R5 and the equivalent lenses that I use for my cameras. It is also worth mentioning that the colors of the S9's SOOC Jpeg shots are much better than the Sony (Standard mode).

[@niallmacleod1024]

Thank you for an objective opinion.

[@David-u2b5p]

Wow 1.8 kg I would never even carry anything over 700g. My fuji x-e2 with fujjinon 35mm1.4 lens is 560gram.

[@owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss]

The rolling shutter is really the Achilles heel of this thing. Compact full frame cameras like this are the dream but there are very few solid options. If this had a global shutter or a mechanical shutter, it would be so much easier to recommend but it seems like there's heavy rolling shutter even on relatively slow movement. Lack of a hotshoe is insane given how bad the internal mic is and they seem to be targeting this to vloggers. Hotshoe mics could've mitigated the poor microphone issue for vlogging but now people have to use external mics.

[@MPD90]

TBH as with every compact FF camera, I just wonder what's the point? If size isn't an issue, go FF. If size is an issue, don't go FF. There's zero point getting a FF just to put F8 glass in front of it, and similarly there's no benefit to 'compact' FF if you put a whopping great lens on the front. Personally I just don't get trying to blend FF + compact, the trade offs are always high, that's just physics.

[@albert_gyorgy]

​@@MPD90Exactly, FF lenses will always be big and that defeats the whole purpose of making a small camera by itself. An APS-C or a Four Thirds sensor would be more than enough for a camera like this, just like how Sony does it. In this case I feel like it being FF is actually a disadvantage rather than an advantage.

[@LOTOVIII]

It has a mic port, a cold shoe can still be used to mount an external mic...

[@GeekyNerdyTechy]

Great stuff, Kai! Well done.

[@SMGJohn]

Panasonic would be wise to quite franky take this camera back and do a few modifications, hotshoe added, headphone jack added, a better integrated mic like Sony does, I am not sure how much more could be done to fix the limited rec time they would need an entirely different sensor or turn it into a 6 megapixel sensor with pixel binning like A7s3 does. They should also make accessories like a hotshoe mounted EVF, hotshoe mounted mic, maybe they could add the headphone jack via USB-C adapter like Fuji. They definitely should not release this as is, its gonna be a flop. The F8 pancake is also just an insult, there plenty of F2.8 that are like 80 - 100g but are same size as this, so it makes no sense for Panasonic to do an F8.

[@rakuuun4582]

the only problem is the lack of good quality L mount pancake lens

[@justyjust]

Got that right F8 that’s a joke might be good for day time street photography

[@LOTOVIII]

Panasonic is developing some new ones apparently

[@UP209D]

Chinese lenses company will be saviors for this camera, they gonna release a lot of small and lightweight lenses, so I really have faith in this category.

[@GuernB2]

The Sigma Contemporary 45mm prime seems like a perfect fit for this, much better than the silly new pancake lens.

[@sammy_sam_leonardo]

I’m going to be honest, those sample LUTs look horrendous 😂

[@grahamhobson2875]

Hooray , I am not the only one who saw this! The colour was dreadful...

[@Snapkyoto]

Oh you were in kyoto. I wish I could have bumped into you. I shoot in all those locations you visited. If I look carefully I think I am in one of your scenes. Wow.

[@ThirdLens]

Which scene.

[@NotoriousEDC]

f/8 is wild. Who’s making these decisions?

[@iam.neekeeteen]

have you heard "f/8 and be there"? so now you did

[@BrendonKPadjasek]

@@iam.neekeeteenhahah true. Street photography cameras usually have a viewfinder though 😂

[@MPD90]

@@iam.neekeeteen Yea but no. It makes zero sense to lug around FF just to put F8 glass in front of it.

[@VoltLover00]

Bean counters, it probably costs $10 to manufacture

[@griegomas]

It looks good in product shots - that is likely a very big part of why it exists

[@calvinjeremy]

The fact that you almost forgot mentioning the open gate, is obviously showing that you don't really get the idea of whom this camera's for. Maybe too focus on being sarcastic about this camera, lack of this and that, and miss the whole point that this camera is meant for social media =)

[@calvinjeremy]

Too much sarcasm in one video. I get it that this is your style, but for the people like me who tries to get some real life experience, (knowing that you were invited by LUMIX) i was expecting to get at least a descent information, turns out, I was wrong LoL.

[@SteveHartmanVideos]

The main reason I went with the Ricoh GR III was simply the compact size, the way the lens has built in cover and folds flat when you turn it off. It fits in your jeans pocket, so it fits in any pocket. The other big reason was image quality. The GRIII might not have the best UI or quality buttons and dials, but it makes up for that by simply being so tiny with a lens. If i ever need a longer lens, then I’ll break out another camera but for 98% of the time, I just want simply snaps of high quality that i can fit in my pocket. As soon as you start putting a zoom lens, microphone and all that, you’ve lost the entire point of the “compact” camera and might as well get something like the LUMIX GH5 which is slightly bigger, but “does it all”

[@Kevon420]

Hopefully Panasonic release the Lumix S7 or something later on that is actually the camera people want: a similar compact body design, a good proper offset EVF (think the Leica Q2 or CL or Fuji XPro/XE, or even Sony α7C), an actual mechanical shutter, and a full-on hotshoe that takes flashes and digital mics. This camera isn't bad per se but it doesn't quite feel like it belongs anywhere either.

[@LilaWolken1987]

they should have instead put out the S1 II - S1R II - S1H II. the only reason the S5 was a banger over the others was, it had the superior autofocus. they just need to put it into the other cameras.

[@jonagreyphoto]

For context, on release: - Nov, 2012 USD$2099 Canon 6D - Nov, 2016 USD$1400 Sony a6500 (aps-c) - Feb, 2020 USD $1199 Fuji x100v (aps-c + fixed lens,~10min 4k30 recording limit) Adjust the S9 for inflation in relation to those years^ and it’s a freakin’ steal for the features.

[@davidbolduc828]

Electronic seem to be the best deal now. Food, insurance and housing have all gone up tremendously in the U.S.

[@TimHunold]

Not the Sigma FP killer we wanted

[@emricquito5107]

Love your hair Kai show more of it!

[@ScottEdwards]

Great video Kai and so good to meet you last week too! 😎

[@brocktonbensch1356]

Was very happy to see Locke just appear!

[@stephenfox5133]

This is bonkers. Set aside the 1-2 stop image quality improvement FF gives you over m43, and a m43 cam would trounce it. It’s utter madness. M43 is smaller, better IBIS, smaller lenses, add in viewfinder (gm5) and flash. It all adds up to a vastly better travel package. And it would be cheaper. GX85? GX9? Why would you choose marginally better image quality with all the drawbacks it adds..🙈. Lord. I sure hope this cameras existence doesn’t prevent the LUT feature coming to m43 cameras.

[@kkobayashi1]

It’s 2 stops difference, and that’s not exactly marginal. F/2.8 on FF is equivalent to F/1.4 on M43. F/1.4 on FF is equivalent to F/0.7 on M43 which I don’t think even exists.

[@Centauri27]

@@kkobayashi1 If you really need the bokeh of a f/1.4 FF, then m4/3 clearly isn't for you. But with the f/8 pancake, m4/3 can easily trounce the S9 by two stops with an f/2 prime.

[@kkobayashi1]

@@Centauri27 I never said anything about bokeh so I don't know what you mean. If you're just saying the F/8 pancake is stupid then I agree.

[@Centauri27]

@@kkobayashi1 I just kind of assumed that. Because when you say "f/1.4 on FF is equivalent to f/0.7 om m43", people usual mean bokeh ability. That's because, exposure-wise, an f/1.4 on M43 is the same as f/1.4 on FF.

[@kkobayashi1]

@@Centauri27 That's because the ISO scale is defined that way. But in reality, ISO 100 on M43 is equivalent to ISO 400 on FF in terms of image quality (signal to noise ratio) assuming the same number of pixels and same read noise per pixel.

[@masterche1980]

I have a smartphone for mobile photography every day. Has Panasonic decided to compete with smartphones? We wish him good luck, he will need it.

[@ohwhoaitzjoe]

Would love it as a secondary camera but the price point is a bit too high. Hopefully this kicks off a huge influx of compact cameras for all lens mounts, not just the l-mount. Competition breeds innovation and lower prices so I’m excited for the future.

[@Wistbacka]

In my eyes, this camera is best suited for video camera rigs. You get all the important video things from the S5ii without the extra bulk that is not needed for video. But it falls short as a point and shoot without an EVF and lack of dedicated buttons and dials, and it's not very ergonomic to hand hold in front of yourself due to lack of grip. I wish Panasonic made an update to the smallest m4/3 camera. They still have that, but that one is old. Need a modern one with their new AF and ibis. That also "fixes" the issue of the fact that this requires full frame lenses - which are all biiiigggg

[@griegomas]

15 minute record limit is a huge handicap in that scenario

[@Wistbacka]

@@griegomas Wait... I missed that; does have a 15 minute cap???? What?!? This was aimed at vloggers, right?

[@griegomas]

This is aimed at people who buy x100s, seemingly without understanding most of why they buy x100s

[@Schykle]

Never seen your channel before until now but I love the vibe and really enjoyed this video! New subscriber and also love that you highlighted the playback button issue during shooting!

[@lensboi1229]

This camera seems just absolutely hobbled , and at $1500, it seems absurd. The biggest issue here is the lack of a mechanical shutter coupled with a slow readout sensor. First, it only shoots 12 bit RAW, so DR is going to be closer to APS-C cameras than most full frame bodies. Second, the camera can’t even shoot with a flash. Third, indoors you will often get severe banding due to artificial lights (even with their flicker matching). Fourth, the rolling shutter is bad enough that you can’t shoot action. So it’s $1500 but just not really usable for any serious photographic work that isn’t outdoors.

[@LOTOVIII]

If only global shutter technology was more widespread...maybe a mark ii will have a global shutter, hotshoe, and a headphone port

[@787UrbanApparel]

I ❤ Lumix !!! ... Since 2006 I been using Lumix and still rocks .

[@pauldby1479]

I expect big discounts on this coming soon

[@StrangelyIronic]

As someone that uses an fp L as a side camera just for stills, most of the "issues" with the S9 aren't really issues for me. I prefer e-shutter and rarely put the EVF module or whatever on the fp, so this is just a better fp for me in most situations (fp, not fp L since I can't use APS-C mode and still have around 25mp). My main cameras are MFT; when I work I'm carrying an OM-5 with a 75mm f1.8 or 45mm f1.2 on for portraits that I focus on and a Pen F with a 15mm f1.7 or 20mm f1.4 for wider shots if I need something quick (those would be FF equiv field of views: 150mm, 90mm, 30mm, and 40mm for the few that don't know). I really wish the S9 would have just been a GX10 with the G9.ii sensor package and processor. I'd even be fine with a G100.ii, G110, or whatever that would have been a GH7/G9.ii Jr that fixed the few design issues with the G100 that took it from a great camera to pointless (lack of IBIS being one of them). Panasonic opting to go with the FF sensor package here kind of shows they're finished with more budget/cheaper MFT offerings. The G9.ii really comes across as their last way to testing the waters to see if it's worth releasing photo centric MFT cameras while just using the same R&D they're already doing for the GH7 put into a modified S5.ii shell. It didn't really sell well for that, people bought it as a better GH6. I might be wrong, they may release another MFT photo camera, but I highly doubt it since the G7 is still being sold. They're doing what OM-Sushi is doing, milking what they have for all it's worth before shutting it down to leave high-end video for MFT with the GH line, and that's about it. Shame, I have a G9 in my bag with a 12-40 f2.8 or 12-100mm f4 after giving away my EM1.iii to my work partner. I was hoping that the stars would align, and I would get a GX8 mark ii to replace it and possibly take over as my main body in general. Design wise, this is just an obese GM1. Imagine if they actually released a GM10 as the replacement for the G100 fiasco that was basically just a GM5 with a flip screen and as much of a G9.ii or GH7 spec wise they could fit in the body, losing the 1/500 mechanical shutter and everything else like the S9 to get the new MFT sensor package with IBIS.

[@TopshelfJunior]

I was gonna say, when the FX3 or the Sigma FP, or other cameras...came out without an EVF, there wasnt this much uproar about it lol. I wonder why lol.

[@Dubsys]

That gives some great quality out of such a small camera, I'm sure it's well out of my price range though

[@Democratiser]

I just couldn’t stop looking at the leopard print hat!!! 😂

[@carolinadreamer6689]

Kai & Loc O.G. of camera reviews

[@bradl2636]

Accountants can finally be content creators

[@benokanruzgar8863]

So they made a full frame GM1 ?

[@RodCine]

Bruh this guy is funny. He actually about to make his own channel go 1 mil soon. wow

[@jroak]

On first glance It's a full frame interchangeable lens mobile sharing device. However if one has a favorite fixed focal length or an adapted manual lenses, tempers their accessory expectation, and accepts the limitations (or the limitations are irrelevant) it's a boring, sensible set-up.

[@ZXH88]

It would be a X100v killer with an EVF

[@kangchem]

this is my first time i heard Kai call it "Lumix"

[@VinceWatches]

Panasonic wants to fight against Fuji x100 and Leica Q3 with a similar design. But without viewfinder I do not see this camera marketed towards experienced photographers but more to content newcomers.excellent vidéo as always

[@bradl2636]

Why would you want to bake in a look and not preserve the option to make adjustments later?

[@donald5378]

The G100D OLED is surprisingly good - if it was built into the S9 then I would have bought the S9 for use with small voigtländer M lenses, but happy for now sticking to m43 with fast compact lenses like 9/1.7, 15/1.7, 20/1.7, 25/1.4.

[@oetproductions8101]

I hope I will live to see the day where they release a small full frame camera with an electronic shutter. The sigma fp was almost amazing.

[@Wistbacka]

They needed to make a modern day Lumix GM1 successor. Not this. If they aim it for vloggers, m4/3 is much better than full frame. Panasonic! Give us GM1 mkii with modern IBIS and AF from the latest G9 and a small EVF, and if not a grip-bump in the front, at least a grippy material.

[@atthelord]

Kai, You've got a great watch collection- so what gear would you recommend to shoot watches? A video on watch photography would be amazing and very much appreciated.

[@the_wiki9408]

Very sad they kind of ruined all the appeal of this camera by not launching it with a real pancake lens. If there was something like a 30mm f2.5 pancake to go along with it, I think it is almost as popular as X100.

[@henrytong8707]

I love my Lumix S-LUT.

[@jr8440]

so this is leicas new CL Camera. people would go nuts

[@gobgobcachoo]

Doubt leica would ship a camera that's bad at being a camera, this is a cine box that needs a cage and a rig.

[@rambr0vids]

Kai's back!

[@yvesleroy5740]

What a weird camera 😂 No EVF and those lenses ...

[@VoicesofMusic]

I predict that Panasonic will definitely discover 8K within 50 years. My prediction.

[@pancholini]

I was gonna buy the Panasonic S9 when I heard rumors about the release, then I saw all the youtubers "reviewing" the camera and I said: "no, thank you."

[@OKuusava]

And againg, is it the best to put the cameras biggest roll to mode-changing? What about the likes of LX100? And I'd like to know are you seeing much on the screen if sun is shining?

[@ComUnSas]

Oo-er, sixteen hundred sheets for a brick-shaped camera that will be a pain to use in bright light and with rubbish flash capability but which does come with a fashionably coloured skin. Can we get one in lemon colour?

[@ComUnSas]

My bad, eighteen hundred sheets if you want a lens on it, outstanding

[@nAcolz]

It comes in black too, flash is of course rubbish, as is most built in flashes. The price for a full frame seems adequate

[@ComUnSas]

@@nAcolz It lacks a mechanical shutter. That's what limits its flash capabilities. This is not a camera designed for stills/ enthusiast photographers. It's for social media content producers as alternative to their iphone (but without the crutch of computational features). It was designed to meet a marketing spec. It had to be full-frame to justify the target price, rather than the other way round

[@rudermanphoto]

You can buy an S5ii with a 20-60 on sale atm for less money then this body only, I don't understand why you'd buy this unless it was so much cheaper then the S5ii and even then you lose so much of the benefits of the S5ii it just doesn't make any sense, only if size is somehow that important to you that you're willing to sacrifice so many QOL things? That 26mm f8 lens is a joke too.

[@Max-mh5yo]

You always a have little "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" Style. 😊💕

[@clubsobri]

Cool camera. I was just in Kyoto two weeks ago, shooting most of those same places. 😊

[@benarchuleta]

I have an Lumix S5 II X and although I don't love it, it does work well. But in regards to the S9, no thank you, I will stick with my Sony A7C.

[@-grey]

Smaller than fuji, better AF than fuji, better IBIS than fuji, more colour profile customisation than fuji, full frame and for only $100 more than the X-T50. Now is the time to get away from the less for more back order oblivion fujifilm pricing model. 👌

[@iggytse]

I would have preferred a successor to the gx9 so I can use smaller lens. Panasonic seems to have borrowed the Canon cripple hammer to make this S9. This should have been the full frame interchangeable version of the Fuji X100VI. Better off getting a Nikon Zf if you want a cool looking full frame.

[@mr-w4812]

unless it's significantly cheaper than the A7C ii, not sure why most wouldn't go for the Sony.

[@johnnybrabus2967]

A hotshoe to provide an evf option would have done the trick

[@sturmgold]

Next time fixed F16 please, we embrace the darkness! And about the compact size, remember the RX1 series :D that was a nice one even though it was a fixed lens system!

[@znhatgan8782]

Imagine this was a gx9 successor with the g9ii sensor and video function.

[@bdssoaz]

5:11 Jordan's face...🤣

[@gordon3988]

Chris’s follows…perfect hair!

[@traintrambus]

To me the camera is ok ie. a full frame Ricoh etc but with no lenses with only a promise for future compact lenses. Most L Mount lenses will be overwhelming for such a small camera body. This makes it pointless to own if you want a small light full frame camera. Sadly I think it’s a joke camera being sold before it’s been fully designed. My advise is not to buy until the small zoom lens is developed. To me the 26mm fixed aperture f8 lens is a joke that other camera lenses companies sell for £60 not the Panasonic £199, although in the USA are offering it for free. I like Panasonic camera having owned the G7, G80 and the G9 all fine examples of their skills. To me it’s it’s a normal sized spade with an eight foot handle. The video is fine and enjoyable to watch as normal but the camera is disappointing.

[@kierenkd]

Great review - spot on about launching with a series of small F2.8 lenses. 28mm / 50-55mm and maybe a slightly larger 100m - not unlike the Nikon Series E (1980's) size.

[@misterabroad123]

Great video. Does the S9 allow shutter speed changes by angle like the S5?

[@akyerit]

This is the first camera release that legitimately angers me lol!! It's got some great qualities of the s5ii but so heavily crippled that it can't quite be used for anything!! The lack of a mechanical shutter was the first thing that really pissed me off for real!! Because I saw the leaked photos, and immediately thought, is this finally the camera I've been waiting for?? But not even close.. In fact the x100vii is a WAY more versatile and better overall camera than this confused offering from panasonic. No good sound, no flash capabilities, no indoor photo capabilities, no evf, rolling shutter, banding, etc. etc. etc. Feels like a camera that would have been released 5 or so years ago. Can you tell how angry I am about this camera yet?? This makes me feel very negatively towards Panasonic, and I've been a fan of theirs LONG before the full frame L mount alliance days.

[@akyerit]

This camera also makes the Sony Zve-1 THAT much more appealing now lol! The Zve-1 is a much more refined, thought out, and simply better version of what they were trying to do with this. Huge swing and a miss frustratingly, and I can only hope they learn from this blunder to make a a mk.ii and what this should have been

[@MrShawngrenier]

Amazing camera, but a 15 minute record limit? That's absolutely insane.

[@VoltLover00]

It's a garbage camera compared to an A7C

[@LOTOVIII]

Multiple reviews have said no overheating with back to back 6k opengate clips, maybe they will open it up with software updates

[@kilianhrkm]

Indeed, then what's the point of this entire camera.

[@gordon3988]

Now if you had the green you would have liked it more! Great video!

[@who2999]

I'm generally a pretty big fan of Panasonic cameras but I feel like I'd go with a S5 2 or even an S5 1 if saving money and slap a pancake lens on it long before I'd go this route. The S5 isn't that big/heavy of a camera.

[@naga2015kk]

35mm f2.8 lens for this camera would be great.....

[@bradl2636]

The S9 is not for serious photographers or content creators. It’s clear now the market belongs to Sony, Fuji and Nikon.

[@UselessHobbyLtd]

Nikons been killing it lately. Iced to use their DSLR’s, I might actually switch back

[@HeikoBertram]

It could have been a Leica q with interchangeable lenses if they had sticked with the GX-9 lay-out. A big missed chance.

[@HeikoBertram]

If only the buttons were ther and the option to vit an external evf I would have been happy

[@oregonduc]

ZV-E1 challenger but taking away hot shoe is a negative for photography. But they do have a platform they can build on now.

[@shogoth]

26mm lens f8...

[@RohamBroccoli]

Really struggling to understand why this camera was made, for whom🤔

[@ComUnSas]

And ... yet, YT reviews I've seen so far range from generally OK to 'almost perfect'

[@LOTOVIII]

Video focused content creators...and people like myself that want a compact full frame for travel with those sweet built in luts

[@jmanhuntley]

The Lumix has always been a.great go to 👍

[@pl2061]

Curious at what countdown was on the Tsūtenkaku tower @15:07?

[@federicodecuadro5672]

I wish Olympus would take this concept mix it with the Fuji X100, ditch interchangeable lenses, IBIS, maybe even the screen and give us a digital Olympus XA. Make it a really pocketable FF camera for serious photographers to throw it in your backpack or for traveling light. Like an X100 but FF and smaller