Kalkbrenner, Friedrich piano concerto No. 1 in d minor op. 61

Friedrich Wilhelm Kalkbrenner (1785-1849)
Piano concerto No. 1 in d minor op. 61 (1823)
Movement 1 : Allegro maestoso
Movement 2 : Adagio di molto
Movement 3 : Rondo vivace

[@danholmes4707]

Some commenters on here (no names) seem to think that this is derivative, copying Chopin. Well this concerto was composed seven years before Chopin's two, and Chopin dedicated his first concerto to Kalkbrenner. So who derived what from whom exactly?

[@domenecgonzalezdelarubia3402]

Sin duda la deuda de Chopin con autores como Hummel y Kalkbrenner es muy grande y poco reconocida. Pero Chopin sí era un gran pianista y un hombre agradecido por eso admiró a estos dos autores muchísimo y recomendó sus enseñanzas. Es importante recalcar que las orquestaciones de Hummel y Kalkbrenner son mucho más sutiles que las del propio Chopin No doubt Chopin's debt with authors like Hummel and Kalkbrenner is very large and little recognized. But Chopin himself was a great pianist and a grateful man so admired these two authors very much and recommended his teachings. Importantly orchestrations Hummel and Kalkbrenner are much more subtle than the own Chopin

[@Bruce88keys]

So what, Chopin is the greatest harmonist/melodist of all time

[@Populous3Tutorials]

haha u took the day to comment everyone on this video, im laughing as i read comments and see u burn everyone lul

[@kenbusch2139]

I believe that composer's name is spelled "Schubert".

[@MaestroTJS]

"Chopin is the greatest harmonist/melodist of all time." Very debatable.

[@hstanekovic]

While reading "A life and times Fryderyk Chopin", I drop by here to listen to some music of Kalkbrenner and I'm very, very positively surprised. Wonderful music!

[@halduncolak4553]

0:00 Allegro maestoso 13:16 Adagio di molto 20:29 Rondo vivace

[@keremugurlu7158]

Teşekkürler

[@zeynepy]

@@keremugurlu7158 vay be

[@sircurich.curich3532]

Danke schon

[@LukeFaulkner]

Love coming across gems like these through youtube. Great time to be a student of music!

[@paulgreen9792]

It certainly takes a conscious effort to listen to these piano concertos by the lesser known composers without prejudice. Most of us have become somewhat jaded in our outlook because we have been thoroughly persuaded by the excellence of “The Masters.” So must we be wiling to hear and receive these pieces on their own merit and respect the gift and talent of those who have, evidently, sincerely applied themselves to cultivate their unique gifts. With that being said; it is certainly to our credit to open our minds and hearts and enjoy the joy of creativity expressed by those who(in many cases) were contemporaries of the more celebrated geniuses we rightly love and admire. PWG

[@DenXDuman]

Based indeed!

[@GIOIS01]

brillantezza, spirito, varietà tematica, varietà armonica, figurazioni ritmiche di ogni tipo... cosa si può volere di più da un concerto romantico-classico!

[@sousafan100]

a marvelous work by the unfamilir kalkbrenner - his mastery of the instrument and composition is evident in the score - he should be judged on his own merits - comparisons to other composers is absurd - close the eyes and open the mind (and the ears) - thanks hv

[@Amourtendresse]

Magnifique, quel plaisir, l'Adagio c'est de la dentelle ! Et le Rondo vivace, idem. J'ai adoré ❣️🎶❤️ 🎶

[@paulryan7552]

Kalkbrenner has always been one of my favourite composers, its a shame people dont take more of his works into their repertoire. I would love to see more chamber music and concertos of Kalkbrenners on youtube.

[@paulryan7552]

my music teacher played one of his works in class and since then I had been obsessed with his music. Something about it just makes me feel great.

[@steinwaygrande3971]

From his music teacher

[@biomuseum6645]

@@paulryan7552 ikr, he’s a pioneer on the virtuouso age of piano, a precursor to Liszt and Chopin, and a good one

[@mitchelllazore8433]

@@biomuseum6645 he’s so incredibly far from Liszt and Chopin listen to his opus 80 preludes I forgot any content of the piece after 2 minutes

[@biomuseum6645]

@@mitchelllazore8433 those things are on a crappy digital piano, it’s not fair to compare it to an actual one

One simply can't hear this piece enough!

[@Schubertd960]

While it's known that Chopin was greatly influenced by Kalkbrenner still crazy how easily you can map so many sections of this to Chopin's works; like the passage from 11:06 is easily recognizable in Chopin's F minor concerto

[@DressedForDrowning]

I can also hear a bit of Beethoven's 5th piano concerto ...

[@brungilda9082]

Этот концерт похож больше на первый концерт Шопена. Лирическая главная партия в миноре, а разработка начинается, как и у Шопена, с мажорного проведения главной партии. (У Шопена в до мажоре.) И патетическое октавное вступление тоже, как у Шопена. Конечно, Шопен был под сильным влиянием этого автора. 😊 Единственное, что их отличает, это то, что у этого автора начало чисто польское, но дальше - все австрийское, вплоть до разработки. А у Шопена все польское. :)

[@jeglop]

The crossed out score in the beginning nearly gave me a heart attack thinking my phone screen cracked. 😂 Chopin played this to friends during summer vacations when he was 14 y.o., he wrote in a letter to his family about it.

[@markus7894]

All comments go about the composer, however, the pianist is doing a fantastic job!

[@Mazurking]

I agree, amazing playing.

[@nederlander7237]

"The best pianist in Europe. The only one I am not worthy to tie his shoes of" "A giant who crushes all Herzes and Czernys underneath his feet, including myself" - Chopin in a letter to his friend Tytus Woyciechowski.

[@yisroelkaplan5398]

kakbrenner wanted chopin to study with him for 3 years, chopin refused and eventually graduated from his obssesion of kalkbrenner (at least to some extent)

[@klop4228]

Doesn't necessarily make him a better composer. Or a worse one, to be fair.

[@PianoScoreVids]

23:30 So simple and yet so beautiful, just great

[@steinwaygrande3971]

This is amazing . Why on earth has this piano concerto never been played by todays great pianists. Would be in awe if Valentina Lisitsa were to get her hands on this. There is a lot of Chopin and Hummel in this wonderful concerto. There is also an element of the Irish composer John Field in this as well.

[@Bruce88keys]

Rubbish, there is a good reason why this shit is a dust collector.

[@steinwaygrande3971]

Am not concerned with your stupidity !

[@Bruce88keys]

because you too absorbed in your own!

[@steinwaygrande9736]

Bruce Stoller is an arse hole and obviously show his total stupidity by his banal comment - if you can call it a comment.

[@franniepack]

The reason why there is a lot of "Chopin" is because Kalkbrenner was Chopin's teacher.

[@lantis323f]

L'ultimo movimento è qualcosa di sublime!

[@larryhagemann5548]

I'm exhausted just watching the score. Wonderful.

[@АлександрЯрков-ш2з]

Bravo grandiose genial concerto super music

[@federicoroll]

In my opinion, that's in full romantic period 1800-1850. Hummel, Kalkbrenner, Chopin and other composers from that ages are envolved in a circle of similar structures,phrases and emotions. It's seems chopin, it seems others; by the way, each one give to his compositions and at least to us, in ours days, the privilege of a true experience to reach our souls. I love chopin concertos, I know every single note of them, and when I listen other composers from that ages and reminds me Chopin, I only can smile. Chopin itself in his letters wrote a lot of his work, he hope that can satisfy his public; a true sense of modesty. ( sorry for my english,I'm italian)

[@Bruce88keys]

No one did it better than Chopin

[@wendyu.tinkle6767]

Stop trolling.

[@JohannesC-c9k]

I love this concerto.

[@tigrecontrotigre2011]

Louis Moreau Gottschalk: "In 1844, then very young, I gave in Paris a soirée to which all the illustrious pianists of the period were invited, among others Kalkbrenner. I played Chopin’s concerto in E Minor, Thalberg's Fantasia on Semiramide, and a fantasia by Liszt. The next day I went to thank Kalkbrenner for having come to hear me. This attention softened a little the generally sour disposition of the old pianist, who did not forgive the new school for knowing something; he took my hand and said with the air of majestic condescension: The style is good, as for the rest there is nothing astonishing; you are my grandchild (alluding to Stamaty, who was his pupil), but for god's sake, who advised you to play such music. Chopin! I hardly pardon you; but Liszt and Thalberg, what rhapsodies! Why did you not play one of my pieces? They are beautiful, please everybody and are classical".

[@dehemorg2]

le dernier mouvement révèle la joie, la gaieté...c'est merveilleux

[@yolandaaedo2108yolalla]

Alegra el Alma escuchar estos conciertos. Gracie..

[@Walterec1]

Thankfully I know nothing about music which allows me to enjoy it, this piece in particular. I feel rather sorry for the highly educated musicologists who do not seem to be able to enjoy any of it.

[@MartinBlack]

Walterec1 well said!

[@catherineanstett9708]

Very very well said !

[@moritzlaurer8392]

what do you mean with that?

[@moritzlaurer8392]

+maestoso-allegro I am one of these nit picky guys, and I have to say, this concerto is nothing special, nothing original, nothing that's really worth mentioning when talking about masterpieces. However it's still nice and enjoyable.

[@Uragaan1]

+maestoso-allegro This is all very subjective, but this concerto really is just boring and doesn't seem like it has much to say. Mendelssohn's piano concerto no.1, while not having as much depth as say Beethoven's concertos, is at the very least enjoyable to listen to. It has a high energy opening that is second to none and extremely beautiful lyrical moments scattered throughout the first and second movement. The Kalkbrenner concerto seems to be a compilation of all the piano techniques without any interesting musical ideas

[@robertyw2882]

I love the simplicity of the composition and musicality of this performance ; very nice.

[@dirkmannekens]

Wat een prachtig concerto is dat toch ! 🙏

[@hervinbalfour9244]

This sounds like it could easily belong to Chopin's concerto catalogue. It's beautiful!

[@cubanm81]

First time I hear this concerto, I love it.

[@abeljarazoveiras4849]

Excelente obra , expresiva , romántica, una belleza de composición. Buenos Aires

[@mmusic6198]

Thanks so much for sharing this magnificent, beautiful music! I personally love this concerto and I would be happy to learn more about this composer. Thanks again!

[@daniloberaldo570]

I found this piece again after more than 3 or 4 years. I love this kind of virtuosity, this inspire me. It's an great answer for my feelings, among anothers.

[@HAEngel-cr5gp]

Thank you, HenriVieuxtemps, for sharing this with all of us. Chopin considered Maestro Kalkbrenner - "The best pianist of his time." This piece is wonderful. Kalkbrenner was a great Pianist, but not as great a composer as Chopin. During his life, Kalkbrenner experienced great loss, sadness, and other difficulties. Such was the case for dear Chopin, however, Chopin's heart, spirit, and soul was richer and more sensitive. Thus, more lyrical, tender, and human. Yet, in so many of Chopin's writings, we see Chopin's greatest talent and character- his humility. Chopin wrote of Kalkbrenner: "I am not worthy to even tie his shoelaces." Remarkable -no? Thank you again, HenriVieuxtemps.

[@johnwallace7721]

Touching moments of sensitive lyricism surrounded by a great deal of hollow virtuosity.

[@affreuxjojo2423]

Very well said. I agree wholeheartedly.

[@jimwinchester339]

I was kind of waiting for somebody else to say it. That's why I kept myself to "Wow - difficult!" above. But I have to agree.

[@tepmich]

One of the greatest examples of nobility and understanding kind condescension !!! Tepper Michael.

[@harrylevy5935]

Thoroughly enjoyed listening to this concerto. Beautifully played and as good as any other classical piece that I have listened to.

[@sergeitretiakov5293]

Одна из моих любимых композици.

[@vladimirguluta6504]

Intelligent classical composer ! Beautiful concerto.

[@tepmich]

Eines der größten Beispiele für Adel und Verständnis der Herablassung !!! Tepper Michael.

[@pianorandi]

This is wonderful music, in it’s own right. It could have been more known…Anyway, I’m happy to have discovered it.

[@teunvandesteeg7836]

It is so well-played and so clean in the right sense of the word, I enjoyed it!

[@jeanaprea8216]

excellent concerto joli morceau a ecouter tres souvant!

[@ДастанИбрагим-б8ь]

06:48 - 08:15 My favourite fragment 😍

[@НадеждаРачковская-т6щ]

Как жаль, что эта чудесная музыка почти забыта и не исполняется. Благодарность моя исполнителям этого чуда. Хочется ещё слушать музыку прошлого, редко исполняемую и незаслуженно забытую.

[@nrg_warrior45]

Правда Один из лучших концертов для фортепиано по моему мнению. Интересный факт: Это пьеса было вдохновлена концертом Шопэна, что можно и услышать

[@pianorandi]

@@nrg_warrior45It was composed years before Chopins concertos.

[@herrbrucvald6376]

Chopin E-minor concerto much? This concerto is very beautiful and a masterpiece of sorts. I don't care what others think, so be it... One can see how Kalkbrenner has taken the proto-Romanticism of the Mozart/Beethoven school and pushed it further to suit his own ends... He deserves credit.

[@ZKLofiTone]

Great pianist great performance great composer

[@stuartmclaren2402]

Have you heard the zHoward Shelley and Tasmanian SO recording. I think it is a better recording but Hyperion do not allow their recordings to be placed on You Tube. Also Shelley has recorded the other 3 concerti.

[@luffy-xe2il]

É notório os traços da influência de hummel nesse concerto, simplesmente divino

[@marcjdumont]

Wow, the adagio is absurdly amazing! Utterly transcendentally peaceful.

[@theopaopa1]

buenisimo. desconocia a este compositor ... gracias !

[@nimrodshefer3649]

absolutely amazing concerto

[@Jojotonks]

The Lord preserve us from music snobs, particularly when they use bad language. I for one am very glad this highly enjoyable concerto has been preserved whatever the "judgement of history" may decree, and however "musically poor" it is in the eyes (ears?) of someone with a degree in piano performance. I am glad there are some open-minded people who also enjoy it. I have just discovered this composer through the sort-of-autobiography (La Musica è Pericolosa) of Nicola Piovani, a brilliant pianist and composer of the music for the film "Life is Beautiful" and many other Italian films. A music-lover since his teens when a present of the Goldberg Variations set him off on his musical journey, he values all kinds of music, from Yael Naim, through Verdi to Bach. As he says "There's a time to listen in silence to Bach and a time to dance a samba". Emphatically NOT a music snob. I was a music snob 50 years ago. Thank God I've grown out of it.

A brilliant underestimated composer, one of my favorite pieces.

[@adalbertogomesdossantos4545]

Muito lindo demais esse concerto! Achei vibrante e alegre!

[@中野萌華]

I've never known about him. Sounds like he is a well-known in many ways😄 I really liked this.

[@anniegrice2425]

I hope all of those critics on here can play this... doubt it..... !! and I personally enjoy it, and that is what music is about, how it affects the individual. I would say that this music speaks, and that is all that is important.......

[@VFomalhaut]

thanks for sharing this music dude!

[@19464288]

Brillante, intenso, coinvolgente.

[@PauloCesarMaiadeAguiar]

Amazing Dear Many thanks for to share this dear Fantastic

[@adalbertogomesdossantos4545]

Brilhante! Que concerto maravilhoso!

[@robertoverby7643]

That was amazing to hear and crazy to try to follow as it moved along!

[@jeromechristophe2795]

Beautifull, stunning, amazing !

[@adalbertogomesdossantos4545]

Realmente está entre as mais lindas composições pra piano!

[@ZKLofiTone]

00:02 Movement 1 : Allegro maestoso 13:18 Movement 2 : Adagio di molto 20:30 Movement 3 : Rondo vivace

[@mrsnegy6001]

All these professional comments.. I am here to listen and enjoy. Beautiful concerto, period.

[@antonczerny]

He disfrutado muchísimo el segundo movimiento. :+)

[@massimo5526]

DIVINO !

[@Walterec1]

A year later and I still like it. Perhaps I should seek some counseling.

[@johnniejohn-jack7610]

Why ruin a good thing ? Mental Health is over-rated!

[@thomaspetrie1854]

There might e a medication for this condition you have! I've suffered from it since I was five years old! So far, NOTHING has helped--I still love classical music and yes, this piece too--simply awesome!

[@andrews582]

I don't want to be cured of this "condition."

[@ahmetfarukdai4662]

Howard Shelley (piano), Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra, Howard Shelley (conductor)

[@yowzephyr]

You are saying who is performing this work here, correct? Or are you recommending some other performance?

[@peterjg67]

Obscurity awaits for those who don't have a snappy memorable name.

[@danielhornby5581]

Indeed. Some of the writing in this is absolutely glorious, particularly for the piano. You would argue that the orchestral writing, whilst not especially ambitious, is superior to Chopin’s as well. But, I guess history chooses its canon for whatever reason.

[@milton3204]

You two are such contrarians. "Snappy memorable name, history chooses its canon for whatever reason." You two are actually going to pretend Chopin's ouvre isn't superior to Kalkbrenner's. Lmao

[@r0mmm]

His name in german translated means "chalkburner"

[@brungilda9082]

​@@danielhornby5581к сожалению, у Шопена, при всей гениальности первого фортепианного концерта, очень плохая оркестровка. 😢 Времени все не хватает переделать. 😂 А так хочется! Особенно коду первой части первого фортепианного концерта. Ну, зачем он там заставил тянуть основную тему одинокий кларнет? Я все время задают этим вопросом. Но вот, подумав, потом поняла, зачем он так написал. Дело в том, что первый концерт Шопен посвятил одной певице, в которую влюбился. И вот это кода с одиноким кларнетом, звучит, как вопрос к своей возлюбленной. Я это понимаю именно так. Как тонкий намёк. Но переписать оркестррвку все равно хочется! Возлюбленная, конечно, главнее, но кода должна все-таки достойно звучать. 😂

[@patrizialauraf]

ottimamente eseguito...un esempio pieno del pianismo e della sonorità romantica...e colmo di pathos

[@snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454]

Thanks for uploading!

[@andreecasman7210]

J'aime beaucoup et c'est une découverte pour moi.

[@TheJujunick]

Beautiful!

[@ngelgun]

dear musiclovers, please think that, when Kalkbrenner composed this concerto, Chopin , might be a baby inhis mothre's arms.. so please try not to compare each other =D

[@manuelbes]

Stop talking about Chopin here, the comment section is full of that, we have nothing else to say, try to remember this more as Kalkbrenner. This was Chopin's inspiration for his concerto op *21* , if you want the real Chopin, go after op 50, it's much more interesting here. Anyway, this must be a good concerto if Chopin took inspiration from it.

[@harald144]

He wrote tremendous amounts of music, and sadly almost nothing has survived.. He considered himself to be "The last classical composer" and on the same height as Beethoven and Haydn

[@아트라이프-g1b]

Beautiful shape of sound, this piece shows what piano can do over other instruments.

[@mindstudies8370]

This is a perfectly charming piece. Not a masterpiece, but an accomplished effort, well beyond an amateur standard.

[@MedievalRichard]

Wonderful.

[@farrelpermadi5471]

First time I can see you upload Piano Piece

[@miguelmendizabalcontreras9771]

Gracias por siempre abuela.

[@magbag70]

Well, some parts are better than others but it's an interesting work and helps contextualize the development of romantic piano concert

[@alexcarracini6168]

Bella esecuzione di un concerto di K., che fu insegnante di Chopin e grazie per la partitura, preziosa per seguirlo. ♡

[@jarthurpaxton9223]

Dees iz zah gveatest composition yoo have nevah herd ov!

[@gregorypalmer5403]

We can quibble about this and that but it remains that we should remember, purchase , and play more of Kalkbrenner's music. He had some genuine things to say in his music. And he was extremely important in his day so the well educated person will listen to his music to put him and more famous others in true context.

[@CziffraTheThird]

Why do people constantly compare this magnificent man (Whom I just discovered a couple days ago who is just originally astonishing) to Chopin? Yeah sure there are similarities between all composers but like I said, this is original stuff and its euphoric relating to this Parisians virtuosic and salon(ic) style. and to top things off, this man was well before Chopin's time besides the overlap of the composers years. So it makes no sense to compare this man to Chopin but the other way around, no?

[@dman9dman]

+CziffraTheThird There Is the style of the composer,and there is the style of that period. This bickering is pointless

[@CziffraTheThird]

Дмитрий Фамилиев And my friend I say this: you know what, I completely and utterly agree with you! And you make a great point, despite the influences of the composer(s), the ultimate mannerisms of the period is whats most potent. But then again, each composer, as in the titling word itself, does create and innovate new pathways to euphoria if you are picking up what I'm laying down.

[@dman9dman]

CziffraTheThird Innovation is not an end in itself, but only the result of the creative search for means of expressing the feelings of the author. That's why we with the same pleasure as listening to Bach, Buxtehude,Monteverdi or Mozart, and traditional in all senses Hummel.

[@ciadd2935]

i like it, pretty romantic! THANK YOU.

[@originaltempoofthelisztetu9194]

Criminally under-played concerto.

[@TonyKnutsson]

Incredible pianist!

[@guygelinas8712]

very good piano Concerto

[@plto4ka71]

amazing concert, good for performers

[@torsten-eil-klavier]

great, great, great !!!!!!!!!!

[@faustocarboni6084]

gracias a los comentarios pude redescubrir este compositor, impresionado¡ desde Buenos Aires

[@GeertVercruysse]

do I hear Chopin piano Concerto No.1...WOW great performence as well...enjoyed each moment of it...

[@brungilda9082]

Первая часть главная партия и ее звучаеие в разработке в мажоре - вообще, как под копирку! 😊

[@yolainesene1768]

Merci beaucoup ! Thank you very much

[@JanCarlComposer]

Lord in heaven - what a piece!

[@zanexiao7892]

Beautiful

[@themusicalcorner4086]

very nice!

[@ChrisBreemer]

Never mind if Chopin's and (maybe) Mendelssohn's concerti are better. This may not be great and original music but it is well written and very enjoyable in its own right.

[@ChrisBreemer]

+John Davies I would not go that far. Chopin's concerti stand head and shoulders above anything else composed by his contemporaries. But there is much lovely music by lesser gods, too. We are spoilt for choice !

[@dinulipati]

Chris Breemer: I often wonder what makes a composition "better" than others? In your examples, I also like Chopin and Mendelssohn better, but that is a matter of taste - for which, as the saying goes, there is no accounting. I am now listening to Kalbrenner's concert, and I fully agree with your opinion. It was enjoyable three years ago; well, it may remain so threehundred years more. - A shame we won't be able to verify this! :-) .-

[@gspaulsson]

Recalling that Chopin's concertos were early works meant to show off his virtuosity and make a career, that he hadn't made his name yet, and that Kalkbrenner and Hummel were what at that time he aspired to be. His more mature work left them in the dust.

[@klop4228]

@@dinulipati Well, there's compositional technique, which I can't say too much on, but I do know that Chopin's concerti (and I'm sorry for saying this) are lacking in orchestration and interaction between soloist and orchestra. Sure, it's taste that tells you which you care about more, but there are techniques which, when employed, make some pieces objectively better than others. Which is why we keep going back to Bach when so many random youtubers write fugues.

[@dinulipati]

@@klop4228 Lacking in orchestration? No comment. My knowledge of the art of composition is zero, and i am unable to distinguish a 're' from a 'fa', so I limit myself to enjoy listening to the outcome. Moreover, good camera work shows some marvelous interactions between soloists, conductors and orchestra on youtube . .-

[@popnocturne7909]

Gorgeous piano writing; though he never shapes a truly memorable melody.