Kamito must be a virgin because of his unrealistic body expectations [eng sub]

[@FriedTofu]

I love this conversation. The JP clip was trending for quite awhile when it came out. Also forgive me If I'm nitpicking, but I believe Kamito said "it hurts"「痛いよ」 instead of「見たいよ」at 5:24.

[@karakurich7029]

Thanks for leaving a comment! I thought it was 痛いよ initially but then referred to this video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpmQmKmJbN9_mpY) with the mind that "if a Japanese native speaker heard 見たいよ they must be right" :p I'm still not sure which is what he actually said as both would fit the context...

[@karakurich7029]

(Just went back and checked on the live chat and it seems that quite a few people took it as 痛い, and Qpi took it as 見たい!)

[@FriedTofu]

Ah I see. Appreciate you going out of your way to check!

[@senxiria]

I'm glad I'm not the only hearing this . I'm confused too 😂

[@ラグラ-o4q]

痛いよって言ってるよ

[@maikalu8426]

"People who judge others by their weight must be virgin" I am pretty sure, Newton will be agree with this New Psychologyical Law

[@RealJokerx7]

Well, Newton died a virgin. And the unit used to measure weight is newtons, so it makes sense.

[@xythiera7255]

No why . Everybody has its prefrences .

[@Irimu_]

I mean... weight does matter. People generally don't just ignore if someones fat or not. I'd say that's how it ought to be.

[@Cookiedible]

Unrealistic body standards tend to go away as you actually live with actual humans, that's what she meant

[@kuihtalem4740]

Hinano straight up destroying Kamito with FACTS

[@tokitsuukaze6158]

its time for kamito to hit the gym

[@karakurich7029]

For sure, he probably needs to build some muscles for his lanky ass body.

[@rockypuffle]

@@karakurich7029 LOL

[@chunta9196]

@@karakurich7029 LMAOO

[@HungTran-jo5vv]

@@karakurich7029 but Hinano likes skinny guys tho…

[@dion8723]

@@HungTran-jo5vv LMFAOOO🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣what?

[@cometto8243]

This is absolutely hillarious lol, Hinano bullied Kamito was great

[@chbavt]

lmfao is it weird that I think it's teetee when Hinano can be this savage with Kamito? Like calling out your friends on the weird stuff they say or think without having to filter is when you know you're good friends. ty for translating!

[@goku_dunker_420]

I feel like he got it reversed, guys think a chubby girl is what chubby really is, meanwhile girls think that what's not chubby is chubby

[@rockypuffle]

kamito got almost everything wrong lmao

[@naroide]

maybe it's different in every country/culture but I agree

[@m8onethousand]

that's what I thought. maybe it's that way in the west, and in Japan it's like he said. who knows.

[@samysa2812]

are u a man

[@Irimu_]

Pretty sure that's a western thing. In Japan girls need to be pretty thin

[@aldiy1707]

Pouring one out for kids who haven't hit 100 cm yet, beauty standards these days can't even let them have a gram of body weight.

[@Inor1]

Purely virgin statement for sure

[@tomnyamkun8]

I love how their conversation sounds like some random talk between high school boys, all the teasing, argument and unfiltered opinion is out on the menu. and how Kamito's chat just spam DT after this conversation XD

[@e.k.9633]

Kamito dug the hole and got buried by Gill, Hina and Qpi. 🤣

[@benkoskinen3871]

3:39 "I think guys who consider 50kg fat have probably never seen a woman's body in real life." Yeah generalizations like this are akin to girls who consider guys under 6ft short, it's just easy to think that because 6 and 50 are whole numbers and easy to think about off the top of your head.

[@EleosAnim]

the last part was just the cry of defeat lmao

[@hiroominase2184]

This is fun to watch but yeah I agree with both sides in this one. It really depends like if you are a girl whose 155 cm, on average you would probably weigh around 50-58 kg while if a male is 155cm, on average he could be at around 55-65kg. The thing is that the -100 of your height is really good until you reach around 170cm because you could be 170 but your weight is around 60kg and I still think that is still healthy.

[@kyle4563]

I’m 169 cm and my weight is about 62 kg. But I think it really depends. You can be like 80-90 kg, but if you have like huge muscles I wouldn’t really call that fat. It really depends on the body type.

[@kanavi2]

in my opinion it doesnt matter that much and its a no reliable meassure, muscles actually weights more than fat, if you are 170 you can weigh even up to 80KG without being fat and very muscular depending on your body type

[@comradeofthebalance3147]

@ponpon Please do not describe t great when there is no science to back up such hypothesis

[@SerRompalot]

*Sweats as someone who's 183cm and 61.5kg*

[@PerciusLive]

@@SerRompalot thank god as someone whose 189cm and 67.1kg... wait......

[@ashle9034]

Well Japanese tend to be on the skinnier side. But I agree height minus 100cm sounds pretty average in terms of weight. Everyone is built differently as human beings however and BMI is something more accurate to measure your healthy weight range rather than what the national average is.

[@ashle9034]

@ponpon I said more accurate, not exact. But yeah, if you want to go down to the bone (yeah I said it) then those things you mentioned are going to be the most accurate.

[@user-kj2yp2xu8p]

@ponpon yeah BMI isn't that accurate, I agree. It's simply a weight to height ratio so it fails to account for so many factors. The most accurate measurement would simply be body fat %, which is basically weight of fat / total body weight. For example, someone that is 200 lbs and 10% bodyfat means that they have 20 lbs of fat and 180 lbs of lean mass. But 10% is quite lean compared to the average person. Still, you get the idea.

[@LIMERAGE]

@@user-kj2yp2xu8p Even that isn't very accurate, especially for women who are very well endowed.

[@maxnibler6090]

@@LIMERAGE it ends up being quite a bit more accurate for men

[@user-kj2yp2xu8p]

@@LIMERAGE Can you elaborate? How is body fat percentage inaccurate? It simply describes how lean someone is

[@-Raylight]

*"Not **-virgin-** shaken up"* Kamito lied as naturally as he breathe xD 5:16 Hinano?! That's not the question you can ask so casually lol OreApo and Giru-kun so てぇてぇ 😂 I think Kamito has been corrupted by Japanese's society. Pretty sure it's ideal to have Height - Weight = 100

[@zbigbozbboy5245]

Eh is it only me who thin it 110

[@raikiro797]

me, who is 175cm and 65kgs: guess i'm the ideal human being then

[@imm101]

perfectly balanced as all things should be 🧐

[@devildante9]

Let's see, I'm 169 cm, minus 110 is 59 kilos. I'm actually 59 now (was 57 before), the math is perfect!

[@Just_Cameron]

I'm 180cm and 55kgs...I gotta get those extra kgs to achieve perfection

[@youdontknowmeidontknowyouu]

I love Kamito but HINANO, YOU TELL HIM YES

[@jazu6805]

lol sakamoto and friends is fun to watch

[@jellyyuyu8260]

1:48 😀 scarily my weight almost matches up if i calculate it like that

[@kyu3052]

mine is minus 120 😞😞

[@Yawnz2]

1:19 idk Kamito bro, i think he got that mixed up lol

[@blxckdreadful7419]

Well well well, in the same club 172cm and 50kg. I'm actually underweight so Kamito is really thin, since we have the same build

[@davidy22]

We can also conclude that the ideal weight for a 10 year old is -10kg

[@aouie1246]

He was getting there but I think he muddled up the numbers. Ideal body weight (in kg) = 0.9(Ht in cm - 100) So a 155cm person's IBW is 49.5kg but is still considered normal in weight if s/he is within 10% of that (44-54kg). Alternatively, we can use the person's BMI which is normal from 18.5 to 24.9 (22.9 for Asia Pacific) which would still make this person's normal range of weight at 45-59 kg (45-55 kg if Asian). Hope this helps, take care of your bodies :D

[@lopsidedanxiety4190]

the more i read into these comments the more i realize how underweight i am, i'm around 178cm and 44 kg and tbh it's been a similar ratio for essentially the past 5 years or so of my life and i never really realized how bad it is until now :/, a bit weird that i learnt this fact from a vtuber clip

[@Korota]

Kamito's bloodline is weak and will not survive the winter.

[@christa1138]

There is also a need to factor bone structure, because other people have big bones and others have very skinny bones so that would also affect weight. I just like how Hinano also pointed out that breasts are heavy. I am also happy that she thinks a 53-55 kg weight is normal for a 155 cm girl. Because any other girls would already think that is fat. I really love this clip! Thank you for the translation! ^_^

[@yuumahiroto3560]

if someone whether male or female were to say to me that they are 30 to 40 KG i would say go eat a sandwich or something cause my mind is screaming "ahhhhh what the heck you doing to your body???!!!"

[@MeganArsenal]

I’m 39kg and I eat a lot of food…all I do is eat tbh, so I don’t know why I’m not gaining any weight😭

[@みあ-t5r6u]

@@MeganArsenal me too 😭 but i slightly heavier than you 45 i eat a lot too sjsjjshshs

[@minminrei3085]

I'm around 36kg tho I'm 5ft. I don't gain a lot. (And I'm on the petite side) i do eat a lot tho

[@doggypi1532]

Isn't it the opposite though... A girl thinks they're chubby when they don't really look chubby to a guy? At least that what my friend think so lol~ Also kamito really is skinny!~

[@karakurich7029]

That's what I thought too! I reckon Kamito just said it based on his own preferences in women (= thin).

[@wu8183]

@@karakurich7029 that's the kinda idealized way of thinking, but let's be real, guys often do have an unrealistic expectation for women weight and funnily enough I think kamito was actually right in saying that because of how often guys do actually judge women for weight. which is even funnier he said that because of him saying what he thought ideal weight was for girls LMAO. in his defense tho, I think he's just misinformed rather than judging and probably maybe dated girls on the skinnier side

[@EroBotan]

that's what i think too, they often claim they become fat and to me they're still as sexy as usual.

[@thefurmidablecatlucky3]

that's because in Japan most people are pretty slim if not even skinny, 175cm tall and 75kg heavy is pretty normal honestly

[@karakurich7029]

Sub positioning messed up at 2:47, sorry >.

[@hasanmuttaqin464]

TIL that even using woman ideal body type i'd still be considered thin af

[@darklordremy5911]

5:25 same bro same

[@_baniraaisu6711]

175cm at 75kg can either mean they have gut hanging or they have body of a Greek god. Imagine you're at that height and you're 50kg at the leanest. If you gained 10kg of muscles you'll look so much muscular and amazing.

[@sil4344]

I'll be surprised if Kamito is actually a virgin with that face of his

[@Izandaia]

175 cm and 75 kg is 5'9" and 165 pounds, which I think is actually a bit on the slim side.

[@rc9702]

Kamito the virgin

[@karenfei3107]

Damn to fit his standard of minus 120 I would have to be 38 kilograms/84 lb. That's insane lol

[@davidy22]

10 year olds have it worse, gotta go into the negatives to hit ideal body weight

[@karenfei3107]

@@davidy22 true lol, you can't exist if youre under 120 cm

[@Cookiedible]

See, BMI isn't the ultimate indicator but it would have helped them a lot

[@meff841]

I get him tho. I’m 167cm and 47kgs and that’s around how most women in my family are, so my brain bugs out at the idea that “normal” for most people is 150something at 50kgs.

[@rigierish3807]

The problem is, being normal doesn't mean being healthy : if you follow the guidelines of professionals regarding your BMI, you're slightly underweight (as well as me, by the way, so it's not technically “unhealthy”, don't worry). Now, if you use the rule of the height in cm minus 100, you end up for almost every height at the end of the “healthy” category, which means minus 110 is actually a better way to situate yourself on a good weight/height balance. Now, if people thing being almost overweight is good or normal, so be it, but professionals, who actually worked on it, say otherwise, so a good approximation of a healthy weight would be using minus 110 and not 100. Personally, I've never heard of this rule but it seem to be a good approximation, so let's use it.

[@ChaChaaa]

But if you've seen a glimpse of Kamito's face, he's a true ikemen. You'll never doubt that he's not a virgin anymore with that kind of charm and personality. I personally think that he's dated girls before.

[@katsqi3668]

where have you seen a glimpse of his face if u don't mind me asking ^^?

[@ChaChaaa]

@@katsqi3668 he posted a selfie on his twitter account before, his nose and mouth were covered but I can say that he's handsome

[@katsqi3668]

saw the pictures already and wow his eyes are very attractive 😩 he’s so pretty

[@akeno1034]

@@katsqi3668 where did you find the picture?

[@fluffle6522]

@@katsqi3668 whereeeee

[@kanou7473]

If he is, as a great friend would do, Hinano can help change that 😈

[@renn9331]

Hinano is so savage 🤣💕

[@shinenchannel6081]

Gyaku da to omou wwwwww 1:22

[@Necroneer]

75 does sound heavy to me, dunno though, I'm pretty sure I'm around 61 but I'm a short person so that probably helps a lot. Guess it's a matter of height. 3:57 Cute. 5:17 Ow that hurt me.

[@govind.m86]

Kamito in shambles

[@kurskwunderkammer2311]

Another Amazing OREAPO series

[@DragonicFang]

Where have I seen an article or comment saying like the women's breast doesn't have that much weight in them or something?...... Damn.

[@ryabread9110]

In my country it's actually the opposite. Girls always consider themselves fat while guys would still consider them too skinny and would prefer girls to have some more meat.

[@Phoenix1024]

Yeah it doesn't all about weight its all about body shape

[@zekeuu]

same kamito, same.

[@milkenet]

oh yes hinano, say it!

[@misooooo]

This is quite a surprising to me as an Asian lol I know -110 is the ideal according to BMI but from where I’m from, -110 is not even considered skinny, just idk normal? (unless you’re really fit and your weight comes from muscle). Usually people here strive for -115 or -120

[@plumcorp.1024]

Just for people to know, their talking about height-110= # in kilograms, which is 2 pounds per kilo.

[@tomko_lep]

40kg at 155cm. Wtf is he dating, a sheet of paper?

[@thebeatbox124]

If women had the same standards as Kamito, 'Ideally' I'd be either 93kg or 103kg (height minus 110 and 100)

[@chainn768]

Bruh jp fans is so funny, i know most jp people is skinny, but 175 cm with 75k-80kg is normal in other country,because man have more muscle than women dont compared it to women bruh

[@XeroForever]

Wtf, I just did the calculations to Freedom units, 5'8 at 165 is a pretty skinny dude wtf. The skinniest I've ever been at 5'8 is 190 and that was like no carbs, chicken breast only type shit. 200 is generally a pretty healthy weight for me and I can only get there hitting the gym 4-5 days a week.

[@Yuki-cd9yi]

@3:57 douteikusa moment

[@ラズ-v4u]

155cm and 45kg is actually a p healthy weight but pretty dicky of him to be thinking 155cm and 55kg is fat

[@Starsalignnow]

Wow. I must be seriously underweight. No wonder i collapse all the time. I gotta work harder to eat more eh-

[@thedustwhispered]

get his ass, hinano 😂😂 i love kamito, but some grown men really don't know the first thing about women..

[@bbh_fairyland9172]

on the subject of weights, admin-san is super skinny

[@dion8723]

does kamito know what BMI is

[@7ayne.]

People under 100cm be like, I must possess no weight, and I must take in mass. (Negative mass) Edit: After looking at my description, it makes me feel like, people who is under 100 cm is a black hole? 😂😂

[@ElfireII]

My god hes so cute haha.

[@satorumybeloved]

Definitely DT lmaoo

[@winniethepooh3657]

Depends on how to build a body muscle.... You can have body weight more with muscle and still look average size...

[@aruhe6650]

This is a sensitive topic for americans

[@Xemphas]

Damn, he got fried so bad LMAO

[@968Yamii]

Poor kamito 😅

[@saito853]

Kamito literally has the same height and weight as me...

[@muhammadnaufalw1822]

Kamito "im not a virgin" kekw

[@NovaGN]

Personally I think anything under 43kg (94 lbs) for a 5 ft. person is like a waif. That's probably still healthy, but that's strict calorie counting and exercise coming into play going any lower

[@hese1422]

kamito gets none for sure cause🤭

[@farihin921]

So if I were younger and measured to be 95 cm, average weight would be -5 O_O

[@gellal1]

Interesting

[@PogMcDog]

I'm 193 cm and 135kg TT__TT I wish I was 93

[@jeongminyoun5388]

Height 150 weight 48 hummmm am i normal? 19years old

[@siriusdeluna3076]

Ngl despite how they look. Yes female boob are quite heavy for those on the bigger size. Quite a surprise for me when i discover that fact.

[@Kareszkoma]

They are right thou. A girl should be at least 60kg, if she doesn't do physical work or training. But as most girls are training nowadays, I would say 70-90kg wouldn't be a surprise, depending on how much muscle she has.

[@zikriflanery7030]

He speaking the truth BTW

[@looowkey5656]

Lmao my weight literally my height minus 110

[@arkhielr3252]

Kamito........ o7........

[@6Hikari6]

I want to see too..

[@dewaputra9251]

175 cm with 75kg is almost overweight. but 155cm with 55kg is normal tho

[@hajiku3575]

So what is the average Wright for 163cm?

[@penny9107]

Lmao destroyed 😂😂😂

[@wu8183]

alright, even tho I agree more with hinano, I feel bad that my guy kamito is getting slandered. I'm gonna attempt to speak otaku/idiot based on what was given in the translation and give him the benefit of the doubt. from what I see, im assuming kamito is genuinely asking and not making any declarative statements himself about someones weight. second, it is possible that he's been with girls/had partners that were on the skinner side and that's what's shaped his understanding or beliefs really. third, I guess it could be argued that he did say IDEAL weight and not healthy weight, and he's saying that apparently PEOPLE consider that the ideal and not him. also, the rule he talks about is called the broca index. basically, I feel like kamito is talking more about what he's heard rather than straight up calling people fat lmao Edit: oh and also kamito did say tho what a girl considers chubby is chubby and opposite for guys. so that leads me to believe that as well and think he's genuinely asking

[@karakurich7029]

You hit the nail on the head pretty much - this is all probably what he sees as the ideal weight based on his ideal type of girl (= really skinny). This is touched briefly on the continuation of this part of the stream. Working on the translation for the clip right now!

[@wu8183]

@@karakurich7029 ty for ur work!

[@nutella7162]

Yup pretty much all this! It's clearly he has no ill intentions, just a different understanding. The convo didn't even go into the details of race, age, sex, if someone is an athlete or not, bone structure, fat distribution etc. Not that it should've, just that there's more to it than the height/weight ratio.

[@rzt430]

i think this is bordering on kamito just trying to guess based on his own weight lol rather than his standards for girls but getting smashed to bits by savage hinano anyways

[@chrisbutorange]

Wait a seocnd. I'm 5'6'' (168cm) and I'm ~163 (~74kg). Is that too heavy for my weight? I mean i go to the gym and exercise frequently... Isn't 175cm at 75kg decently normal? Maybe not in Japan though now that I think about it...

[@karakurich7029]

You're probably fine and the only one who has the authority to tell you if you're heavy or not is a physician :) You exercise so it's muscle mass. No need to worry about weight if you look and feel healthy ^^

[@Lenskuy]

5.26 kamito says "itai yo" it means it hurts, Just some Correction. Correct me if im wrong

[@Lenskuy]

5:26

[@karakurich7029]

Someone brought up a similar correction. Actually, I’m gonna pin it so take a read of it:)

[@kyumazu1926]

Well is there even that many japanese women with natural big breast?

[@oxero7935]

Not gonna that's cute

[@annaelisabeth7397]

Hinano is ma girl, she be statin' faqs. Love her👏👏💐💜

[@griffca4814]

Tinder has showed me that I'm glad I'm gay and men really do have to settle.

[@karakurich7029]

But my mum tells me guys would be lucky to have me 😢

[@gmed26]

the -100 calculation is actually included in a formula for calculating the ideal body weight so he's not wrong lmao you have to subtract more if you are asian and have a small frame (minus 10% of (ht-100)). although i don't agree that opinions on what is chubby is divided by gender lmao and hinano is correct it really also depends on the body type and frame there are different factors that affect weight so yes. if kamito's weight is 175 minus 122 if i understood correctly, that's actually underweight lmao he should gain a bit more fat. for the ideal weight of a 155cm person, as a 155cm person, im like 41kg and im not skin and bones at all lmao. the ideal body weight is 49.5 or 50kg but i'd say 45kg is best or even 40kg??? is ok but considered underweight for bmi. 50kg is kinda chubby for me already

[@kgt8742]

calculating BMI doesn't exist in their ways XD

[@tristancoffin]

Hot take the average human is fat and not the standard you should use. I weigh 10 kilos over what I want (180ish cm 75kg I want 65kg) and I think of myself as fat.... I used to be 81kh

[@Kareszkoma]

Wait.. you can't just deduct a hundred from it. That's not how bodies work. By that logic every 2.2m guy should be 120kg, while there are a lot of broad man who are 120kg. Same for girls. A girl who does physical work easily 10-20kg heavier than a girl who doesn't. Fit and athletic girls can easily be 70-90kg, but if she is 190, than she should 90kg to begin with? That's a very very bad calculation.

[@karakurich7029]

And that's why I love Hinano for calling Kamito out on it :)

[@Kareszkoma]

@@karakurich7029 Absolutely! It was such a nice banter.

[@qonda7452]

They are totally wrong tho, weight should be based on height. So if you are 1.60 the healthy weight should be 40-50 kg. If you are 1.70 it should be 50-60 kg. So yeah, kamito is right in this one lol

[@karakurich7029]

Thanks for joining the discussion. I think we can all agree BMI is probably a better (but not the best, there are some important limitations) way to determine a healthy weight for height, rather than arbitrary weight ranges!

[@nutella7162]

Basing it only on height is not that accurate though. You'd think a 170cm middle aged woman and a 170cm teenage boy would have different "healthy weight ranges". I'm a 168cm tall woman in my early 20s and my healthy bmi range is apparently 55-70kg