Beastars' BIGGEST Mystery (Beastars Lore)

[@archeduardo]

It's not a mystery. It's a downright "the author forgot" moment. Like Rokume, the imagination chimeras, the gang that was after Melon, Sebun's entire plotline, melon's dad, dogs being bred to rule the world, and so on.

[@Alondro77]

Yep. It's the simplest explanation that's usually the correct one. It's why the best authors outline their core story before they write a single page of actual narrative. It's just too easy to lose track of things. And it is a shame Rokume was forgotten. She was fascinating in just that brief appearance. Having a more bestial group of animals, like snakes, lurking in the shadows of the world would've been really interesting to explore. And given how impossibly huge she was, perhaps THEY could've been the 'divinities' moving things in the world. She would've been the initial introduction to them, given how she clearly was studying Legoshi and even suggested he was something special, which easily could've been worked into a concept that serpents were the ones 'slithering' behind the scenes and keeping the peace by choosing those who exhibited the right traits.

[@edgarcross4721]

This is why the beastars finale is so damn frustrating

[@flybiguns1013]

Why didn’t they just let the dad stop melon from trying to kill himself and let the dad help better melon.

[@sunflower8227]

gosh so many unexplored things, my favorites are the imagination chimeras, Sebun's plotline and dogs being bred thing...

[@badumba5511]

And the author forced all these problems to be "Melon's fault", so they got resolved pretty lazy. I doupt that whole segregation thing and dogs being dictators had anything to do with melon in the first place. How did this dude influence politics when all he did was fock around in the back alley market? And what was the point reintroducing Riz again? All I liked after the Melon plot was Bill raising that little chick and if Louis + Juno will be canon.

[@rem3762]

whale really said Ocean man Take me by the hand Lead me to the land That you understand

[@Blu_Moon_VA]

**starfish thesis intensifies**

[@GalekC]

Yair Yair Days

[@foreveruseless1292]

@@GalekC Yair Yair days indeed

[@Necrodermis]

I thought the whale really said: Holy diver You've been down too long in the midnight sea Oh what's becoming of me

[@Carbon-cringe-human]

yare yare daze

[@giggling_stars]

Am i the only one who hasn't read the manga but still watches all the videos

[@KamuiMiracle]

I know a lot of people who do and I keep that in mind haha. Even though I have a spoiler warning, I still know people watch after so I still format the video to inform people who haven’t read the manga so they can still follow along with the video and don’t care about spoilers :D

[@giggling_stars]

@@KamuiMiracle i can say that your videos are just informative enough where i don't get confused, but just spoiler-free enough where I can still enjoy the manga. Well done good sir 👏👏

[@ImaginaryBadger]

@@giggling_stars yo if you want to read the manga but don't want to *read* it, you should watch our dubs! (patrick is in 2 or 3 of them)

[@Moodles-]

Nope!

[@KamuiMiracle]

@@Moodles- why not? I totally recommend Project Cherryton, they make amazing dubs

[@honeydragon5238]

My headcannon for how the whale ended the war is that the land animals couldn't understand him but were terrified of him because of his size and took it as an warning from the see animals.

[@AquaticLotus7552]

Personally I see it like what would happen if aliens made first contact towards the end of WW1, the sudden Introduction of a whole new species alongside a whole new culture just made everyone forget about the fact that they were in a war to begin with. All the while, not really answering the core questions that arose with the war, leading to the society we see in the series.

[@spinosaurusstriker]

Imagine 2 nations at the edge of killing each other and then chuthulu appears, says bla bla blac then disappears

[@elitemple6722]

my guess about the "world" is that its just like a mini Pangaea instead of the continents like we have or something like that and Beastars takes place in a city on that continent or smthn

[@jhm3346]

So one singular land mass where for some reason instead of having multiple cities, they have 1 massive city. For some reason I’m getting judge dread’s mega city 1 which if I remember right is ridiculously massive.

[@GreebleClown]

@@jhm3346 Or multiple cities, but this one is the biggest and the capital.

[@cashel4437]

This was my thought too! The rest of the world being water also would make a lot of sense as our two big groups are land and water animals (besides carnivores and herbivores lol)

[@jonquilgemstone]

@@GreebleClown Yeah. Reading the manga, I just got the vibe this story was centered on the one city bc that was the setting, esp. since Paru seemed more focused on other elements and getting us zoomed in on the characters and ambience. Keep in mind the chapter where the headmaster attended a meeting with reps from other important high schools. So we know Cherryton is far from the only school, despite being the only school talked about.

[@ZombiedWolf]

Beastars as a whole is the definition of wasted potential. I love it but damn, so much shit doesn't make sense. Not sure why Paru felt the need to rush everything at the end.

[@shastaweston]

nah That reward goes to Game of thrones season 8

[@ZombiedWolf]

@@shastaweston Yea probably. But I never watched GoT so i can't relate.

[@antonioklaic4839]

@@ZombiedWolf tbh Beastars was the most enjoyable for me early on and during slice of life moments. I didn't care much about it becoming a battle shonen. I did like the Lion Yakuza with Louis though.

[@ZombiedWolf]

@@antonioklaic4839 It really was. I really enjoyed the independence ark, but it just went down hill so fast after that, unfortunately.

[@foreveruseless1292]

@@antonioklaic4839 I loved the slice of life part as well as it diving deep into the psychological aspects of living in an animal society, that's what drew me in. It's kind of a shame it became a bit Shounen-ey later on, I'm quite tired of Shounen tbh

[@ixiahj]

I think the manga just had a lot of naturally over looked inconsistencies. Simple things like when the the Shishigumi killed the lights during the festival to kidnap Haru, nobody used the flash light from their cell phones. At first I thought cell phones didn't exist but it turns out, they're everywhere. Also I recently learned deer (and sheep) are actually not strictly herbivores. They actually eat meat in the wild. They're even known as bone eaters.

[@rowanheart8122]

Also giraffes eat birds!

[@KoeSeer]

probably Beastars were made as a social commentary about racism, dicrimination, and how the strong should use the power to help people, not to harm them. Then, after the whole Legosi vs Riz, everything became weird. It's like Paru didn't expect the manga is exploding in popularity and she can't just "nope I'm done" because of contract and encouraged by editor to make new chapters. That's why the world building is super weak and depends on the reader to accept whatever she said in the lore.

[@D3niz3n]

A lot of "herbivores" would eat meat when given the chance tbh, not even talking about omnivores and how they're handled.

[@Bruh-fy1jk]

@@D3niz3n yeah like it doesnt make sense that eating meat kills Louis slowly. I get that he is utterly disgusted, even I was disgusted and horrified after seeing the meat market in Beastars, but that whole thing about poisining him? Doesnt make sense

[@hassanalkhalaf1115]

@@Bruh-fy1jk he was poisoned??

[@shaneyzamora2525]

Fish Meat!? This whole thing could have been solved with Fish Meat!?

[@Alondro77]

But then some carnivore are allergic to fish, and so it all begins again! RAR!! NOM!!! ;D

[@zilaslaursen4392]

Oh my god sushi

[@leepoppop5523]

True

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Prejudice is over, praise be sushi and red lobster

[@holyfairydragon2361]

Madagascar?

[@michaelp3609]

A fucking flying T-Rex that is the single greatest thing

[@venumbra1177]

Aside from the confusing evolutionary aspects, symbolically it would make sense for dinosaurs to be held in such high regard in the beastars universe. Seeing as there were dinosaurs with all kinds of diets, they could symbolize the unification of carnivores and herbivores is a sense

[@np9946]

This is why I wish that Paru creates a sequel to Beastars to build the world after the end of the turf war , show the adult lives of the main characters and their kids and answer the questions we have.

[@emulatorisland7417]

Yeah, so their kids are the main protagonists now. Lol, cursed thought but I thought like an small albino wolf would be the daughter and a tall rabbet with "wolf-ish" color palette on him. Man... I hope Paru won't abandon Beastars even after Complex is done... I just wanna see more of the world :/ Fingers crossed she creates "Beastars Part 2", where it expands and offers more complicated "riz" issues (not carbon-copy of just "I caught you! Now we fight" but like the ideologies about eating meat and stuff like that) or just hell, be a slice-of life manga alltogether with just some tiny tad bit action.

[@itskevinjustkevin]

@@emulatorisland7417 more so "Beatstars - R" (the R is for revolution) basically the hybrid revolution as I call it (think of it as a mix of stonewall meets civil rights movement meets Woodstock) , Basically your run of the mill culture revolution with a little bit of violent uprisings. To say the least the kids will be seeing these hard times through to "bring the world revolution"

[@emulatorisland7417]

@@itskevinjustkevin Damn, that's an awesome idea.

[@LenOnTheDoor0000]

Who knows. Maybe in the future she might give us something like that. But there is certainly no denying that Beastars truly is something fantastic and she deserves praise for all the good stuff that went in it.

[@Diortelon]

Naah, forget continuations- we need straight up answers for things thown out during the main plot! A series of tiying up spin-offs would be best, at least to try and make a cohesive story for once.

[@lluc_riberax1038]

The thing that made me so angry that was left unsolved was Juno being Adler and Pina being the other protagonist AND I'M SO PISSED THAT IT WAS LEFT UNSOLVED

[@nightdog4183]

Wdym it was left unsolved ? I think this wasn't important. (I could be wrong.)

[@lluc_riberax1038]

@@nightdog4183 like yeah it wasn't that important but they said: "We're gonna do the Adler play but this time Adler will be Juno and that's a bit controversial because she's a carnivore" and they never said anything more about the play.

[@nightdog4183]

@@lluc_riberax1038 And we didn't even saw that play ? (I don't remember.)

[@lluc_riberax1038]

@@nightdog4183 No, they said they would do it and it would be controversial but they never did the play.

[@iamsemjaza]

"You can just eat us," Whale said. "Dude, the sea creatures are crazy. Let's not fight anymore." "Right, my carnivore friend. Those guys are freaks. Let's not be like them!"

[@nemanjastanimirovic155]

I am actually very surprised that with how the beastars universe is portrayed so realistically, you tried to explain sentient animals with evolution. I honestly thought that everyone would immediately jump to the conclusion that they were artificially made.

[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

That's true.I think Jack's story really takes us on that path.

[@Alondro77]

Ehhhhhh.... ehhhhhhh.... sorry to say, it wouldn't work this way AT ALL. I'm a developmental geneticist, and there's no way in hell the "Beastars" world could form naturally. First and foremost, cross-species fertility is TOTAL BS between radically-diverged species. Evolution is RANDOM. It involved not simply point mutations, but huge frameshifts and translocations, and duplications in the genome. For instance, a Komodo dragon and wolf could NEVER have a child. EVER. Not only is their basic reproductive biology absurdly incompatible, but their chromosomal number and centromeric arrangement is so different that not even a zygote could form. The chromosomes would never align and even if you directly injected the haploid genome of the sperm of one into the ovum of the other, the resulting cell would swiftly die. And yes, this sort of thing has been experimentally tested and verified multiple times. Even species that are closely related rarely can have offspring, any the results are often sterile, such as with mules. Basically, an artificial origin is the only way the "Beastars" world could ever take place. Natural evolution could never lead to it. The odds of such outrageously convergent evolution simultaneously is staggeringly impossible to achieve. I put it at lower than the odds of winning every lottery on Earth with just one ticket purchased for each.

[@nemanjastanimirovic155]

@@Alondro77 Just one question. Why did you start your comment as if you disagreed and then agreed with what we had to say. I don't mind, it just confused the hell out of me. Also the fact that they all evolved sentence at approximately the exact same time, all evolved the same body type and the same means of vocalisation, takes your odds and adds a few dozen zeros for good measure. Also your profile pic is amazing. Edit number 2: you fed big cats therefore I have subed.

[@Alondro77]

@@nemanjastanimirovic155 I thought the comment was saying that evolution WOULD explain the "Beastars" world, not that it didn't, and in fact proves it can't be natural.

[@nemanjastanimirovic155]

Now the only question is how did this happen So essentially what de fuh did humanity do

[@adriannaranjo4397]

Just kinda feels like they kept adding stuff that seemed cool with no real plan to pay it off and ended up just leaving it "ambiguous"

[@Alondro77]

Yeah, that sums it up. People forget that this is FICTION, and therefore if things don't add up it's because the writing just fell apart. It's pointless trying to put the pieces together when the author left out too many to ever make a complete picture. How many stories, movies, and TV shows have just DIED because the writing turned to crap in the end? Need I bring up "Game of Thrones" season 8 AGAIN? ;D

[@scarlettsandiego778]

I think Beastars dealed with Black Alley Market too lightly. I doubt that every carnivore who visited this place easily accepted the fact that it was going to get closed for good. Especially those who made money there. There would have been protests and etc. There still would appear some other meat market.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

I think the Japanese-inspired culture had something to do with it. Japanese society strongly discouraged confrontation or conflict, from a young age many Japanese are taught to stay in their lane, don't complain, and conform. They have a saying "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down", so while many may protest the closure of the Black Market, unless they unified they may all individually feel too helpless to decide each on their own they will protest or complain.

[@FestorFreak]

Yo, HUGE props to whoever voiced the herbivore at 9:05. He really sold the distress in that character. That was excellent.

[@airborne_productions2485]

Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed my performance! But seriously, all the credit should go to the voice directors and the man himself for letting me be apart of this.

[@johnny2x47]

I love Beastars and everything about the manga,it's just Paru suffers from the same mistake that Masashi Kishimoto delt with when writing Naruto he was to ambitious establishing a whole lot of characters with interesting motives and well developed personalities it's just there not developed enough for us the audience to really invest and actually care for the characters

[@PlanetZoidstar]

That and introducing way too many characters, more than she could comfortably develop. She created Pina largely out of the desire to add some levity to the second arc, which took focus away from other characters that could have used the fleshing out. No plot-relevant character should be created on a whim just because. And in regards to that arc *Season 2 SPOILERS* I think making Riz the killer was a mistake. He was a non-entity in Season 1, so there was no way for the audience to guess who the killer was until he revealed himself. That and Legosi susses out it's him offscreen. Like somehow Bill learned Louis came from the black market. He just knows for no reason we are shown. Alot of major events aren't shown happening in real-time and alot of important characters (like Haru and Juno) get shoved into the background when Paru doesn't know how to properly work them into the arc she's writing. I feel her biggest weakness, as you pointed out, was being too ambitious for the story she wanted to tell. She had great ideas, concepts and characters, but she got carried away adding in more characters and not making the most of the cast she had set up in Season 1.

[@johnny2x47]

@@PlanetZoidstar I feel like Paru Herself had a lot more creative ideas in store but was bogged down by the studio who was behind the manga and wanted to get the ball rolling faster instead fixing plot threads that were completely dropped next arc, characters that seem like they would be intersting don't get nearly enough screen time,the fight scenes are lack lustered at most and doesn't have much impact at all,and a lot of death fake outs like a lot fake outs.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@johnny2x47 If that's true then it really sucks. I could believe it being the case because Paru is an amazing writer when she's not being held back. Hopefully the anime can fix the mistakes of the manga now they have the complete story and can adapt the story without the constraint of not knowing how it's going to turn out (like when an anime catches up to the manga) I'm only up to Volume 10 of the manga (when Juno has her meeting with Haru and they talk at the Garden club) and so far it really bugged me what a non-entity Haru has been in the Murderer Arc. Given how important she was in the Meteor Festival Arc I was really disappointed how minor her appearances in the Murderer arc were. I know why Legosi is avoiding her but it felt contrived he didn't try to tell her WHAT he was doing. Or why he needed "to protect her from a distance." That and how quickly Juno gave up on trying to become the next Beastar....Because she acknowledged Haru was cute and she couldn't compete with that? It seems out of character that Juno would throw in the towel so easily when she's so popular, clever and charismatic and she already scored the Adler role without really trying. And she was a favourite to be considered in the running for the Beastar position. What it took Louis 3 years to achieve she managed in only 1, if that.

[@johnny2x47]

@@PlanetZoidstar I agree with Kamui on The great Carnivore and Herbivore war it could've been fleshed out and given a lot more details on which country is fighting who? And the way war ended was by far one of the most asinine most rushed way of how to end a war.A fish sausage like WUT????

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@johnny2x47 And even before that I don't see how the Herbivores even had a chance or thought they could hope to win when they can be dismembered ACCIDENTALLY by a Carnivore who gets a little too rough. Remember when Legosi punched Louis back in the first arc? Going by that logic he should have been instantly killed if Legosi punched him hard enough to send him flying.

[@TDIdialgagirl]

Kamui: [Deep thoughts and intense research on manga lore] Paru: hehe big whale go bbrrr

[@josefvs8855]

I had a ton of fun working on this project and being the voice of Jack! This was my first official project as an audio engineer and I look forward to bring the best I can with the rest of Studio Miracle!

[@nightdog4183]

You did a good job ! :D

[@hiimnormal6285]

You did very good! You exactly captured Jack's energy and sounded like how I imagined to sound like!

[@nightdog4183]

@@hiimnormal6285 Yeah ! This voice fits him.

[@SonicHaXD]

Great theories! Really like how much you tried to explain all these loose ends. I didn't know how much of a problem it is for not knowing whether BEASTARS has country's or not (kinda reminded me of BNA) Also, 5:30 was a super funny joke. Glad you're enjoying AoT XD

[@marieitami9363]

Yeah I was wondering about the country thing too

[@nightdog4183]

Isn't BNA happening in Japan ? This means it has everything we have now. (Except AnimaCity of course, if we had that, it would be really cool.)

[@Nobody-qo7vh]

@@nightdog4183 Last time I checked it was just flatout stated that BNA jus takes place in a version of our world where the beastmen evolved alongside humans. Eventually something happened and they all started appearing more in society. In other words BNA just takes place in Japan, other countries most probably still exist and Anima City is best described as a city state.

[@nightdog4183]

@@Nobody-qo7vh That's what i was saying in my last comment. Edit: Tbh i would love to live in Anima City.

[@Nobody-qo7vh]

@@nightdog4183 Ah my apologies

[@Criegrrunov]

The biggest mystery for me is.... Is the whole Beastars world just that one unnamed city? Like, the ending kinda pissed me off because its so absurd and only makes sense if the whole planet was just one city.

[@Criegrrunov]

@Furrsian • Anthro If it is, it must be a mega continent with the size of just one city, so I highly doubt it.

[@spiderdude2099]

5:15 It’s actually really common in manga and anime to refer to “japan” or whatever japan-like country the story takes place in as “the world”. It’s assumed that what happens in “japan” is all that matters. Even if other countries are established, they....kinda don’t care if the other countries still have conflict, the country that “matters” had its problems solved. Even in my hero academia, there’s a sense that UA and the stuff happening in japan is all that really matters. The movie and some parts of the show reference America and other countries but there’s this sense that like.....”who cares what’s happening over there? Japan and UA am I right?”

[@jilliancrawford7577]

Something else I found baffling is that nobody in the Beastars universe didn't try to make some kind of neutralizer or anti-venom for the poisonous/venomous animals. In my opinion, they have equal if not greater potential for biological warfare and tension than carnivores as a whole because of this.

[@arivibin3318]

SENPAI RETURNED HOLY SHIT WAY TO LONG

[@KamuiMiracle]

Im happy to finally be back, sorry for the long absence

[@arivibin3318]

@@KamuiMiracle dude this wait was worth it, just focus on school assuming if your still in it lol. KZbin is a passion job, you don't have to feel obligated to work to much

[@ChrisJones-rd4wb]

@@KamuiMiracle I just wanted to mention that the sea creatures are heavily influenced by the daoist tradition, and the traditional Japanese take on life and death.

[@anthonyrios2311]

I wonder if the Beastars world is in a singular continent like in One Punch Man.

[@kraziiXIII]

The irony of my enjoyment of these videos is that I have never read Beastars or watched the anime and have absolutely no interest in doing so, but these videos are so well executed and delved into that I always tune in to them. Absolutely wonderful editing, voiceacting, and analysis.

[@MonsterGaming-fz4fs]

18:25, no no. It's not certain birds and it's not "theorised". Birds all logically share common ancestry, and they are all dinosaurs, merely the modern descendants of them.

[@isabellawood2494]

Can you do an episode on the part where jack tries to commit suicide, he buys onions that are bad for dogs and stuff. And I haven’t seen anyone dig into that. I mean. Well. Talk about it.

[@KamuiMiracle]

I actually already did that and you can watch it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoq2ipZuarKLo6c

[@Alondro77]

He'd have to eat a lot on onions. There are a lot more poisonous things for dogs... like chocolate. Dogs cannot metabolize the theobromine. Buuuuut... in that world, Jack is an engineered species... kinda odd that they left in the vegetable vulnerabilities if they were trying to make species that would be able to live among herbivores more easily. Eh, just another little continuity problem. It's why ya gotta talk to biologists when you're writing about biology.

[@alexwattley7198]

Amazing job explaining the lore my guy. Also, I was not aware that Beastars was originally supposed to end after the murder solution arc, still glad it didn't though. Also, HELLA excited to see the Riz video. It might be one of my favorites.

[@Alondro77]

That does explain why it felt so different after that. Had to scramble for new storylines and worldbuilding that wasn't pre-planned. That feels about right.

[@mechanicobra]

As rushed as the ties to the lore and especially their involvement in the story are, the Sea Society really is fascinating. Fish are the oldest known vertebrates so making them and the aquatic animals that live alongside them wise beyond the world of land animals really does make for a neat idea.

[@GuyNamedOlaf]

Kamui: "what do YOU think cook boss?" me: "hold the frick up"

[@mray4784]

Jesus is a flying T-Rex? That's the coolest thing I have ever hear XD

[@therealdamancy]

When the whale appeared, both side ended the war because they thought the whale was some sort of god (due to his sizes,), not because of the fish meat. This can be proven as Legosi thought Jack's story about the history of the war was pure fiction. They didn't take the fish meat because they didn't know seaspeak at that point and couldn't communicate.

[@fostersbar391]

The whale was basically Shanks from One piece stopping the war lol

[@Alondro77]

Now I want to see a fan image of the whale dressed as Shanks...

[@nadillasakinah950]

I haven’t read the manga on this part yet but in my fanfic, Cetaceans and sharks can go on land They need something like aquatic headphones on their gills to breathe while the Cetaceans can breathe the air just fine They can walk on their caudal fins like that shark from My Gym Partner’s a Monkey That’s how I see it

[@Alondro77]

Uhm... *facepalm* No... just, no. No. Not even going to bother explaining the anatomical and physiological wrongness of everything you just wrote.

[@craycraywolf6726]

@@Alondro77 Dude it's a fictional world and they're trying to be creative. Chill.

[@Steriorgon]

I honestly dread the season 3 anime coming because even with getting rid of the filler the ending was so bad. It's really unfixable unless studio orange has the permission and listen to us and just change the ending entirely. I think the ending of beastars is that they accept meat eating as a natural thing then the "oh they forgot to eat fish me" like what? What was the point of louis saying "carnivores need to eat me" that was so stupid. Even if paru was being rushed she should of taken a break when the second arc was finished and work on another thing because she needed time to figure the last arc out. Even if she works on something different that isnt good ATLEAST it wouldnt soil the beastars franchise.

[@ZombiedWolf]

The current ending is honestly really unsalvageable. It needs HEAVY reworking if not just entirely scrapped entirely for something different. I really hope the anime is allowed to change something about it cause damn.

[@MackMyWorld]

@@ZombiedWolf obviously we would need Paru's permission and if she truly cares she would say "yes your allowed to change so many thing from the ending and battle." This is actually really frustrating how she just dumped everything down the drain even if she was being rushed.

[@ZombiedWolf]

@@MackMyWorld it really is frustrating yes. Question though. Was Paru herself rushed by her publisher or something or did she rush herself cause she just wanted to be done. This video says the manga was supposed to end after the Murder Mystery ark, but obviously it didn't. So I guess i'm wondering how much control she really had of the length of her manga

[@MackMyWorld]

@@ZombiedWolf she should of just taken a break first by atleast working on something else like beast complex but she didnt until after the series was over? That's pretty sus

[@MackMyWorld]

@@ZombiedWolf it really just feels like paru doesnt acknowledge us because she doesnt say anything about the ending taht everyone was critisizing about. i dont believe there's something that's holding paru back from telling us since beastars is already over.

[@luciencartervo5356]

Whilst I understand the compromise of the meaning of sublime beastar, I believe the “one and only sublime beastar” may be a situation of him being the only one who is still alive.

[@azel7056]

In all honesty the term “world” could just be clarified as a place such as Japan and Italy can be clarified as 2 completely different “worlds” because of their culture and so on. Also I apologize if my explanation isn’t to “put together” but I do hope you at least understand what I’m getting at

[@itskevinjustkevin]

Whale said "So long and thanks for all the fish" ( What a Galaxy brained pop culture reference)

[@tasdevil9476]

Tbh I thought Beastars was going to have another manga to clear up the lore along with getting a look at how the characters are holding up

[@nightdog4183]

I hope at least Beast Complex will answer these questions, i doubt that though.

[@Logan_Zimmerman]

@@nightdog4183 spoiler alert it doesn’t. Well it does but not by much.

[@noahturiaf4030]

well most mangaka's in japan have about 1 week to make 1 chapter of their manga and i think since paru was both the artist and the writer she was extremely rushed either way she did a good job!

[@kingced741]

How about this Pangea Ultima still exist but the Metor caused a significant rise in sea levels. Any remaining dinosaurs evolve into carnivores and Herbivours(when it comes to skin it goes slime,carapace, smoth/squishy skin,Scales,Reptilian Hides then splits into Fur first and after that Feathers. Animals evolve into way crazier shit anyway so a semi inteligent species of dinosaur going that route wouldn't surprise me) So this Ultra-Mega metrotroplis(giant city) that covers most of the remaining Super land mass. So thats how I viewed it, as Legosi didn't explore most of the City. Because when the back ally market was stopped it was the biggest one on the remaining Landmass. The smaller ones that smuggled other meats from morges and allowed animals that couldn't exist in the main ones warm climate needed to exist put into circulation before they caused a genocide in Northern regions. This is event probably caused the more strict laws against carnivores, also why more small northern species aren't as present or are rarer than southern animals. This is why the whale said there society wasn't too advanced.(honestly the whale and multiple back ally markets are more theories but I just viewed that whole world thing like that. They are terrestrial animals after all)

[@LJXrot]

The voice acting for the war chap is amazing, I love it

[@KamuiMiracle]

Exactly Airborne is an amazing VA

[@viktorberzinsky4781]

I think Paru is a mad genius, but that she inherited her fathers nuttiness and probably started with one story in mind and then changed part way through to something else, then changed her mind several other times. But let us not forget, this is the daughter of the guy who wrote Grappler Baki, a notoriously WTF fighting manga which while awesome, plays really fast and loose with the rules of human biology and physics to make the story and the fights go where the mangaka wants it to. The Itagaki family itself as a whole is likely composed of mad geniuses.

[@giboi03]

To be honest, I don't think what the whale said back then was about fish meat, and more so just appearing out of nowhere and spooking all the animals with words of wisdom

[@ZeroTheOtter]

I know im majorly late but... are you telling me the entire conflict of Beastars could have been solved with Sushi?

[@Artcrazyotaku]

Yes’nt

[@tophfan]

in beast complex, there are animals that comes to city from countryside so it means it is not only one city probably

[@HashSlinginSlasher94]

Paused @ 9:00. My guess is carnivores lose and compromise with a peace agreement where herbivores scroo them over. So basically the treaty of versailles kinda...

[@shinatermin6782]

Yes looks like im first, also thank you for letting me have a cameo in the video! It was an honor!

[@KamuiMiracle]

I was glad to have you :D

[@serpentinewolf7085]

I actually agree with the ocean creature of life and death. Makes sense.

[@spiderdude2099]

19:18 I think one reason for this is that Japan is REALLY behind the rest of the world when it comes to meat substitutes. The term “vegetarian” and “vegan” are STILL new concepts even in 2021. The beastars universe sets up that carnivores are fed high protein diets to get their nutrients like with tofu, edemame, and eggs, but I think the western concept of “imitation meat” that is just as good as the real thing hasn’t translated overseas yet. Most Japanese people don’t believe or know that there are some meat substitutes that are good enough to fool meat eaters palates. I think that’s the reason why in beastars, that’s why no substitute has been developed. IRL japan isn’t aware of such things.

[@SayNoToDemocide1]

1:36 I think that the events of Beastars started in 2017, as that Legoshi was 17 at the start of the series, and his date of birth is listed as 4-11-00. 4:24 The building to the left looks to me like the Colosseum of Rome, Italy.

[@ericxoring7105]

3:33 - Zootopia reference history right here. Is anybody ask a question where’s the omnivores? (Don’t even ask the humans are omnivores. Some animals are also omnivores too you know like Melon.)

[@OneSpikeyGuy]

There are omnivores in Beastar. They are generally put with carnivores

[@ericxoring7105]

@@OneSpikeyGuy Ohhhh... Beastars logic.

[@OneSpikeyGuy]

@@ericxoring7105 It makes sense. A bear is an omnivore. Remember that. So are foxes. And maned wolves.

[@Alondro77]

Racoons, foxes, skunks... heck, most bears are omnivores. Rodents are omnivores too, and sometimes cannibalistic. Even horses can eat meat. It's why I always end up finding most fictional animal worlds unsatisfying in the end. They usually break things down into a bland pred vs prey duality, and leave out so much of the wiggle room that exists in the reality of animal life.

[@shinyagumon7015]

Maybe the Meteor that killed the dinosaurs had some kind radiation that made the animals evolve into intelligent bipedal creatures.

[@Zazelpire]

Beastars excels at chatacter driven conflicts and I think "lore" has become so overrated in story telling these days. Everyone wants massive, complex lore and world building but IMO the beastars world works *better* when we dont really understand it entirly. It feels completely foreign and alien to us so it's easier to suspend our disbelief and get invested in their unique conflicts.

[@foxtrotnine]

I think thats what the author was trying to do. Trying to cram as much lore in as possible, but rushing it and causing it to be very confusing.

[@everforward5561]

If you don't want lore in your story, don't start adding lore in the first place.

[@Alondro77]

Yep. I've often said that trying to explain the inexplicable is the worst mistake a fiction writer can make. And that's simply because many things in fiction WILL NOT WORK IN REALITY AT ALL. So, going overboard just ends up forcing the reality of the implausibility down the readers' throats. They end up being yanked out of the all-too-critical 'willing suspension of disbelief' when the writer is desperately flailing "NO NO!!! MY 7-HEADED UNICORN DRAGON ELF THAT CAN MAKE THINGS BURST INTO FLAMES BY SINGING OPERA IS TOTALLY PLAUSIBLE AND HERE'S WHY!!" "One Punch Man" and "Mob Psycho 100" never make that mistake, and so even at their most insane, we don't doubt any of it within the framing of the narrative, because the narrative never demands we ask the question of how the hell any of it works.

[@blitzkriegdragon013]

If you’re interested in character driven lore in this world, I’d recommend reading Beast Complex.

[@spinosaurusstriker]

Eccept the little scraps the author guves are very contradicting and flat out dumb, so there is no way to defend it here.

[@kittydaii]

I never really got interested in the Beastars lore, but if you put it up, I guess I'll see it lol Greetings from Mexico :]

[@kittydaii]

@Allison Wyrick yeah! Exactly :D

[@loulou9237]

Yayyyy lore timee ! Beastars lore is kinda confusiing yet still enjoyablee x) Great work as always patrick its awesome to hear all your ideas and the team did amazing like usual !!! Continuez comme ça !!!

[@mr.lafitte336]

Well, i guess Paru really took from her father about world building.

[@rougestarlight4308]

I don't know shit about Baki, what happened?

[@mr.lafitte336]

Well, let's just say that he introduced a lots of powerfull characters and then they turn into shit after a while just to introduce another new powerfull character.

[@MrPF]

@@mr.lafitte336 at least she didn't go the route of "anyone that isn't Japanese is not only weak but only exists to be beaten by the Japanese characters"

[@bluetheblue4179]

Maybe this is the only place in the world that carnivores and herbivores actually live in harmony, and not like a bunch of savages? Maybe there was only one group of life animals and nature animals who managed to compromise, while all the others continued living like the actual nature we know about. It could be that the reason why they don't have much contact with the savage animals is that, like Japan, the country where Beastars takes place is located on an island. But that's just a theory. 👀👀

[@sapphirewingthefurrycritic985]

I think in Zootopia (if you just paid attention to the background) the predators ate fish meat as a substitute for eating prey animals for their diets. It appears that only mammals are sentient and capable of creating a civilization since those are the only creatures we see, no birds or reptiles walking around like how Judy and Nick do. In one of the scenes in the arctic part of the city, we see that there is a shop marked Fish market so that is probably what the predators eat. I think that the Disney animators did the best they could and I know that they could have gone farther but they had a limited amount of time compared to the Beastars story. They were able to establish how the city was able support so many animals and played with the scale for everything from mice to giraffes and how technology would work for them. At least in the Bojack Horseman universe, they made it clear that animals still eat each other and no one bats an eye over it and there are farms with chickens (there was an episode dedicated to it). I have seen a hawk or falcon carry away a mouse person in one episode, a whale eating a bunch of krill and so on. And yeah it's messed up that in that world they made a distinction that some animals are bred to be food and others are allowed to be regular people but they at least talked about how that universe worked.

[@kingkurok3149]

It's possible that the world of beastars could very well be one of those realities where the continents either never split, or started out a several landmasses before slowly coming fusing together They could basically be living on a modern day pangea with this city basically being one of it's main capital I mean it's fiction it doesn't have to be 1 to 1 identical to our world But this theory does make the most sense

[@Veprem]

So... how sacrilegious would the Jurassic Park films be in this universe?

[@bussinmcbussin4964]

Loved the voice acting again. Keep up the good work

[@DwightRWiley]

She is definitely the daughter of the man who made Baki

[@A.S._Trunks]

Like father like daughter 😅

[@electabuzzboss]

I think it wasn't just the taste of meat but also the instinct to hunt that created the back alley market. Remember when Legosi had that bigger wolf(his instincts to hunt) telling him to eat haru? I think this forces them to eat regular meat and not just any substitute that is similar to meat. Think about domestic cats even though they are well treated with "man made meat" they will still hunt and eat prey even though they don't need it. It's just their nature telling them to eat.

[@hodgepodgebuhgodge3739]

I think somebody went back in time and stepped on a butterfly and changed evolution as we know it.

[@_marshP]

I feel like "fish being a whole other thing to *tackle* " was a fishing pun but it feels to obscure to be a pun

[@PokemonMaster4742]

Someone on the writing team watched Madagascar and thought "mmm sushi"

[@kaijunasan4497]

Still awaiting for him in the anime !!

[@khana3618]

Sounds like they're living in Pangea. That would explain everything being in one place, because the continents wouldn't have split. Also makes sense because if they came from the dinosaurs, that means they probably didn't have that crazy history of all of them dying and the continents separating (allowing for the beastars universe).

[@WobblesandBean]

19:10 Dude, we can't even do that FOR OURSELVES, creatures who don't go into blood frenzies like the predators. So no, obviously they can't, either.

[@pearvoz]

LET'S GO PAT IS BACK BABY! CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH THIS!

[@KamuiMiracle]

I’M EXCITED FOR YOU TO SEE IT!!

[@Jujstmeh]

The story gets confusing at the end simply because the end is just bad and rushed as hell. It's just simple as that.

[@paleoberd]

18:25 birds ARE dinosaurs, thats a fact, they are the last living dinosaurs

[@davidlz830]

No they're not? Birds evolved from bird like dinosaurs but are probably as close to dinosaurs as they are to us.

[@1faithchick7]

The reason the author probably made dinosaurs the common ancestor: "I just think they're neat!"

[@robertchamp2268]

It could be a continent spanning city, it’s not a true city it’s probably separated into quadrants but it could work. An example of something this would like Ravinca from magic the gathering, but it’s a world spanning city for them. But basically a similar concept here.

[@Tha22god]

Grade A voice acting 💯

[@seasnek7024]

0:03 sadly, so much was unanswered...

[@Carryoutpie]

The world may never have changed from Pangea, hence only one country/continent.

[@Artcrazyotaku]

Actually that is a fire theory 🔥🔥🔥

[@caydentjiptowihardjo7297]

so many damn aot references. i’m proud

[@laurel8233]

Hi Patrick, I just want you to know that I've really been enjoying these videos. Even though I'm not done with the manga, you have interesting, well-informed opinions about the lore and the characters. Also glad that you're back making videos. :)

[@seryivera2322]

The carnivores surely felt guilty when the offer of millions of fish willing to die yo satisfy them. And that way, herbivores would see that the war is pointless because the carnivores don't want yo kill... Buuuuuut, HOW IS EVERY CARNIVORE THINKING THE SAME?!

[@shywilliams1719]

"they believe that life and death are beautiful-" *gets a horror ad*

[@chisaten]

Hm, finding this makes me want to stick to just watching the Netflix series. It is much more simple with not knowing this backstory.

[@hanselfinn8946]

So animal like, seal, sea lion, whale, dolphin, Shark, wallruss, sea turtle or maybe just sea mammal have higher int than fish

[@Inspectornills]

Im hoping they elaborate more of the world in the Beast Complex manga since Paru started it back up again

[@Storm0719]

GIANT WHALE

[@metallicsnake.]

I think the dogs cover the fish thing up so they could stay in power and when the wale saw this. He waited for earth animals to overcome this. To reoffier fist meat and there should be one last ark where they take down the dogs

[@deisabri5800]

In Beast complex chapter 10 and 8 other towns are mentioned. They are numbered districts with specific inhabitants. District 0 is only for perfect Albino/white animals and everything there is completely white. The inhabitants fear the outside and having pigmentation makes one a outsider. District 17 is described as a dangerous place that looks like a warzone. A place where herbivores do not go. We know from chapter 8 that the same police force is active in all districts. And it's perceived as a death sentence, for a herbivore, to be sent there.

[@zombieguy4444]

This editing and video format remind me of a mix between Grand Line Review and Swagkage I like it a lot

[@joshjacob1530]

7:52 yes.

[@ellianoblett7770]

Maybe in this world the tectonic plates never shifted. So the world is all one land still

[@eriksieurin334]

Yeah, much as I love Beastars, most of the lore is what TV Tropes call a "Voodoo Shark", an explanation of something like a plot hole that only makes things worse. I do like the dog conspiracy, because of two things: First, the obvious reason is an attempt to explain why breeds of dogs or even dogs at all exist in this world without humans. I can appreciate that. Second, its a cute variant of an old cliché. Usually, when you attempt to create a super-race by genetics of whatever it is to create super-soldiers, but dogs seem more like super-bureaucrats (social and smart). It doesn't go anywhere, but it's fun.

[@DamiesEvilTwin]

Also I am so supremely curious about all the prehistoric megafauna that may have existed, especially the sea life. Aaaand as for why they refused the fish sausage, probably moral superiority complex. "No, we are above eating the intelligent!"

[@pete4416]

I swear that face at 0:53 makes my day better every time XD

[@ElCrisEquisDe]

13:59 "Throughout Heaven and Earth I alone am the Sublime Beastar."

[@acm3047]

I think beast stars manga should have kept going to flesh out more the ending but beast complex might fill in the holes that beast star miss and the anime has changed some stuff in the manga we get a better ending than the manga

[@BigBass63]

18:43 Maybe it's because the characters have senses that would immediately tell the difference, damn even we can feel the difference between real and fake meat.

[@crimsonspiral6334]

All of the countrys we know could be all combined in a super continent so it would all be one country