Kanae and Kuzuha once had a BIG FIGHT [English Sub]

Kanae and Kuzuha talking about the big fight they had.
Original stream:
• くろのわ｜年末くろのわーる！告知もあるよ！【...
Kanae's channel:
/ @kanae
Kuzuha's channel:
/ @kuzuha
ChroNoiR's channel:
/ @chronoir
#Nijisanji #Kanae #Kuzuha

[@fannijisanji8650]

2:51 It says "ChroNoir" but it's actually "ChroNoiR". Sorry.

[@zzz-r3j]

It's okay dude. It's only one capital letter, no sweat. Thank you for your translation and your hard work!

[@nonsensicalabyss]

What the previous commenter said. We always appreciate your hard work!

[@球体関節人形]

You won't get away with a measly "sorry"

[@Necroneer]

It's fine! No biggy

[@nemuiro15]

bruh. U doing us a big favor, 1 or 2 mistakes is FINEEEEEEEE edit : that aint even a mistake what am i saying.

[@kzushii]

tags: enemies to friends to lovers, slow burn, fluff, 80k

[@koii4907]

man is it knkz or kzkn i want to know. also are they the only characters or is there a thirdwheel? does the thirdwheel find a lover too? will everyone in that fic be happy? if so send link 👉🏼👈🏼

[@Emkito]

@@koii4907 def knkz

[@horriblekellible]

@@Emkito even now I'm still conflicted LOL

[@chariot9285]

you can kind of sense kuzuha's reluctance but i think kanae danced around the topic really well (if not exaggerating a bit lol)

[@nekuchan900]

Yeah i feel he was nervous Kanae'd say too much or something lol

[@kanaerotto4668]

probably he feels bad about it and kanae is like one of the biggest factor of kuzuha's character development from this shy introvert. maybe he doesnt want antis to twist thing up and said kuzuha is ungrateful.

[@natalia-fm]

@@kanaerotto4668 i just got into this vtuber community, and i always get confused when people talk about “character development”, i mean, was that supposed to mean like his personal development? Or like all those stuff are just fictional? Like i know it’s not, thats why i get confused

[@kanaerotto4668]

@@natalia-fm HAHAHH no worries they're 2.5d so it's kinda confusing🤣 i think it's both personal and fictional. But Kuzuha was very shy being back then when he just joined Nijisanji, he was afraid of collabing with other vtubers because of his infamous past life(his real self before being vtuber) and he was also branded as an introvert. There was also an offline event in Nijisanji where the vtubers met in real life, many said Kuzuha is very shy and even Alice(Nijisanji livers) said Kuzuha became a wall LMAO. But back in those days, Kanae approached him warmly, and Kuzuha started to open up himself, that's why there are many fanarts of Kanae proudly witnessing Kuzuha having many friends over the past year when it's only him in the beginning.

[@Denturess]

@@kanaerotto4668 what was kuzuha’s infamous past life? Was he doing smth bad?

[@xx-ph5ml]

IDK about you guys but when boys have a fist fight usually the next day they become best friends, this happened a lot during my high school. So if you want to upgrade your friendship just have a fist fight.

[@dinozero2]

Can confirm though in my case it not a fist fight more like a debate.

[@k1r4exe]

nah

[@Necroneer]

And laugh about it in the future XD

[@meleemastermaa1449]

To upgrade my friendship I play either Gears of War horde mode and/or Call of Duty Zombies with my friends.

[@atari5177]

Yeah sometimessss.. If you already know the person you fight to...?

[@kanaerotto4668]

idk i imagine kanae is this calm person who rarely show emotion(explains why he said he rarely got into fight) so that would surprise kuzuha if he got mad and kuzuha is this sensitive little bean he would sulk and kanae will feel bad and would be the one who gives in first then they would make up lol my imagination. on serious note, actually according to my friend when boys fight it means that they are really close. both kanae and kuzuha got each other back. from their twitcasting when kuzuha said he can't imagine a future without kanae and kanae said he already knows how much kuzuha likes him, i know that they are bros for life.

[@chrisboelens2640]

not sure where your friend got that from but anyone can really happen to get into a fight or argument with anyone lol, it doesn't really imply too much regarding their relationship. How you resolve it says a lot more about it rather than getting into one. Anyone can have disagreements, guy or woman, knowing eachother for a day or for years. But how you end up resuming afterwards is what differentiates people

[@RayRahu]

When we guys fight, it's because we take the other guy seriously or want to be taken seriously. Sometimes, too seriously, making a bigger deal of smaller things; but in the end, it helps us understand each other. At least, that's how it's been for me and mine.

[@chrisboelens2640]

@@RayRahu It's different for everyone, can't really make a generalisation like "for guys" or "for women", there's not much inherent difference since everyone has their own ways. Toxic masculinity does affect it a little though.

[@RayRahu]

@@chrisboelens2640 You can though, because men and women tend to behave in certain ways. Nothing is wrong with recognizing a pattern. Also, miss me with that "toxic masculinity" garbage.

[@chrisboelens2640]

@@RayRahuSure, but saying "when we men fight it's cause we want to be taken seriously" is the dumbest generalisation ever. There's a billion reasons someone could end up in a fight, I've never fought someone over something as dumb as that though. It's someting that could be easily solved if people were taught to communicate more, but men are taught not to talk about their feelings. Hence the toxic masculinity. If you think it's normal for you to have to fight someone to be taken seriously or get a point across, you have some fucked up relationships.

[@486693]

Something changed within him, THATS IT GUYS, THEY HAVE GOTTEN THEIR PERSONA

[@docturbright495]

*persona 4 vibes*

[@horriblekellible]

i will reach out to the truth-

[@wawan8759]

You'll never see it coming

[@asurashi2413]

*show me your true form*

[@sophie2406]

They spoke about this fight recently during their ChroNoiR day Twitcasting too! Sounds weird but I'm really glad they had this fight where they talked out their feelings which led to them really becoming close. I'm only a viewer but you can really feel the depth of their friendship when you watch them together and I live for it.

[@fannijisanji8650]

Dammit. I regret not checking twitcast.

[@nonsensicalabyss]

@@fannijisanji8650 the full archives are still on blibli lol. Kanae didnt archive the first part due to technical problems but blibli has everything!

[@sophie2406]

@@fannijisanji8650 All the VoDs are still available on Kanae's Twitcasting account, first part too, he just needed to open it up for viewing which he did thankfully! Here's a clip of where they spoke about it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHKTe3l-f92Drc0 They streamed for practically the entire day so it'd be difficult to find it in the VoDs unless someone made a note of the timestamps

[@fannijisanji8650]

Thanks!

[@fannijisanji8650]

Thanks!

[@milesedgeworth132]

I watch Hololive for the girls, but I really cannot stay away from Nijisanji boys. They're so entertaining especially ChroNoir. Kanaes always so chill and mysterious, but then you have Kuzuha who seems to put 110% of energy into everything. Kuzuha sounds so genuine it's hilarious. These guys were born to be entertainers.

[@NESSAStrawberry]

They just so damned wholesome with each other--

[@Necroneer]

I like how they respect that fight as one of the foundations of their everlasting relationship till now.

[@mrsw2pwr]

recently, my best friend and I had a fight that completely changed our relationship. I was very depressed by this, but this clip gave me hope that our relationship can become good again just like in this ChroNoiR situation, if I'll try to fix everything. Kuzuha and Kanae are incredible! thank you for the translation, it's right in time :)

[@allise8370]

I wish you good luck!!

[@slowhand_dnp2104]

Don't worry as long as you confront each other directly your relationship will be back in no time 😂 I know it because I've had a fight with my besties, two different person. One person one time, the other one 2 times. We even crying and stopped talking for 1-2 days but in the end the problems solved by itself 😂 The key is, silent is not an answer. Explain the problem, tell them how you feel. If the two of you are really best friends, i'm sure 100% he/she will open up to you 👍

[@edaislife6012]

@@allise8370 you Jill I

[@bombom1157]

did it?

[@riverel]

the thing with kanae just cutting ties with ppl he hates (and those he doesnt want to fight for) is so relatable to me. even from the fight itself, i can see their worth to me, so im glad these two were able to work it out^^

[@nonsensicalabyss]

Ahh yeah i remember they talked about this during their anniv stream too hslkskd the fact that they overcame it and ended up being closer than ever proves that their friendship is a real one 😫💖

[@katsu558]

People are saying that when men have fist fights it improves their relationship with each other. I find it funny because with women it's the complete opposite, and it's like a 1% chance we are still friends after we lay hands on each other.

[@pathetic2399]

Men and women are different lol News at 11.

[@hellscythe-dono3628]

My man's out here maxing out his S link

[@Soilderith]

maybe I should go into a fistfight

[@-Raylight]

I'd like to imagine they're fighting because of some rules in a game, like Yugioh xD That's just how usually boys work, they fight, fist-fight, and then become best friend lol Girls usually don't talk to each other when they're fighting, and the grudge could be forever. I'm jealous of them xD

[@Kim-fi5nf]

I'm a girl and i gotta agree with that. they hold grudges for things like talking to their bfs because I've known the bf since elementary and wanted to talk about games. she doesn't even want to listen to what I'm saying and it's been a year .-.

[@TheHetaliafan123]

Yeah I’m a girl and a desperately just wanna forget and move on from fights like that, but I literally can’t shake that feeling.

[@anemo8862]

are you actually a girl?

[@Kim-fi5nf]

Windra Nandhitya what kind of question is that... I mean I’ve said that I’m a girl 🤷🏻‍♀️ it’s up to you whether or not to believe it

[@anemo8862]

​@@Kim-fi5nf oh sry, I forgot to mention Raylight. Not you.

[@user-zh5vo8db2e]

imagine being so close with each other you only fight once (1) and it ends up making you two even closer

[@pafait]

man, they have such a wonderful friendship.

[@zee-ee7ue]

big てえてえ energy, I'm glad that they sorted things out and resulted to being as they are now, I really love them both! thank you for your hard work!! sometimes I kinda envy them, I wish I could be as close to someone like that lol

[@Momochan144528]

I know how depressing and hurt it is to fight with a friend. But that fight really changes how close or far you could be with that person. So actually when I was watching these two, I could tell that they had a fight before or else they wouldn't have this balanced friendship between them. They both are comfortable and fond of each other while also having this personal space to respectfully given to each other.

[@ShanaNakazawa]

They remind me when my best friend and I got into a huge fight. We lived several cities apart so it was through chat and I didn't talk to her for what felt like a whole month. Turns out it was just three days LOL. I ended up apologizing first through a long voice message and we patched things up and promised to be better. We've never had anything like that again. I think it's important between best friends to have a fight to truly understand each other more and strengthen the foundation of the relationship.

[@eve_ch_]

Thank you so much for this!!! I've been badly waiting for a translation of this certain clip qvq Bless you!

[@caramelsonn2696]

Is it normal that my friends and I have never been in a big fight, like a serious one, and we've been friends for 5-6 years? Our relationship surely isn't surface level because we basically know every stink and flaws we have lmao. We bathed together, slept together, respect each others' space and time, and support each other. It just bothers me that usually, a fight is what strengthens a relationship yet we haven't been in one all these years. I mean, bickering, yes, but not a serious one.

[@irawri5403]

Why are you bothered by that? I personally think it's fine to not have ever had a big fight with a friend. There shouldn't be a fight if there is no reason to is there? And especially if both sides are respectful, open, supporting, and both care about each other a lot :3 Just depends on each person and how they deal with differences I guess.

[@zeddy2284]

BRO DONT WORRY i actually used 2 wish i would have a big fight with my friends because ive had best friends for years and we've never ever been mad enough to argue or hurt each other and i thought i was missing out and we weren't actually best friends because we didn't have those passionate anime fights lol i dont think fighting is required in close relationships

[@logicallychaotic9139]

you do not need to have a big fight if you have good communication. so that just means yall are great at communicating and/or addressing things before they can explode. good job to your friend group.

[@JustARandomWeeb.]

Huh, this reminds me of myself. I had a fist fight with someone who always bullied me when i was in junior highschool. After that we became good friend until now, but not as close as this dynamic duo tho

[@herman6837]

Yoo, the exact same thing happened to me too, i was bullied by 2 people in elementary school, had a fist fight that ended up with wounds. After that fight, the 3 of us also became good friends. Although we dont live close to each other anymore, sometime when we have time, we will go on a vacation together with some other friends

[@kj6053]

I just got bullied harder

[@zeddy2284]

@@kj6053 pog

[@lishasubs6726]

I love how everyone in the chat is just like "TeeTee/ てぇてぇ" XD

[@nomore3937]

A fight wont make a friend close actually,its depend on the person. Some may wont talk to them anymore and some try to fix it which make them more closer and understanding each other. Just saying from an experience -3-

[@Cerita__Dunia]

Yeah. The important is how we deal with the fight not the fight itself.

[@marketware4136]

I love the gay, friend-ish, energy they have between them. They’re so honest to each other sometimes it’s gay.

[@polarisu7317]

How is this gay? It’s just bro being bros

[@marketware4136]

Polarisu I guess my definition of gay includes two men being very open to each other-but friends also do that. Between the two energy, they emit more of the “friends” energy than the gay one, so I see them more as best friends, not gay friends...if that’s what you’re concerned about.

[@marketware4136]

Basically, they’re wholesome and I love it.

[@TheHetaliafan123]

Brassal Reme I don’t think their issue was if they really are gay, I think their issue was that you’re projecting a sexuality onto them because they’re being open with eachother. Men can and should be able to show their feelings and have deeper connections with other men without having it be seen as ”feminine” and having their sexuality speculated on. And gay men are not all typically feminine, which is also a stereotype that benefits no one.

[@marketware4136]

Kabedonut Alright, understandable.

[@blaqstar]

ngl, back then i had a huge fight with my childhood friend and it was so freaking intense if i were going in with wrong kind of mindset would definitely end his life. fast forward 10 years later both of us still friends, still drink and drunk together, still do stupid shit together but we do it without disrespecting each other boundaries. even now when we both reminiscing about what happen, we both forgot the details that lead to that fight

[@yumiya2536]

Ahh, yes. 0 dislikes. *PERFECTION*

[@thanglongnguyenvu3815]

Imagine if they actually fought seriously over sth absolutely stupid

[@halfelven152]

means they are very close

[@TheGlowingPlayers]

this applied for me and my bestfriend lol,,, i avoided my bff like the plague for a while but then i felt bad and we decided to talk things through and say sorry. and now we're still friends ahaha it's been years

[@The_Real_D1zzy]

I can agree to this. Me and my friends fight everyday on Discord lol

[@lostdestroyer8400]

ChroNoiR

[@Iggarashi]

Me my friends occasionally exchange fist then after a few hours we're cool again as if nothing ever happened.

[@strawberrymilkdarling7279]

I just had a fight with my best friend. I'm kind of sad she gets mad at me for worrying for her.

[@TheAmubis]

I don't know how I feel about this, but it's not about I got quarrel with my close partner at college. We argued and fought often but usually just get it over the next day. But he recently got a gf, and rarely shows up to Univ again. Spends almost 24/7 with gf. I'm not that sad, but feeling kinda left behind.

[@xiaorei_]

LMAO I had a fight with my best friend 3 months ago, we fistfighting until my cheek feels like stinging and swollen purple-ish. But 3 week after he punched me in face and i punched him on his face as well. He came to my house, he's trembling when saying “I'm sorry, i shouldn't do that.” . And yes, we still being a bestfriend even more close after that fight lololol

[@KC-qb9hr]

Does this mean that the fight would have been in October 2018 or October 2019? The original clip is from December 2019, so I’m assuming they fought in October 2019…Did they spend a whole year trying to tolerate each other before exploding? I can’t imagine either of them fighting after just a few months of meeting…I know this happened a long time ago, but I somehow just found out about this 😂

[@hinataamane3042]

Their friendship was so good.. If boys having a fight, that means that they friendship was strong.. When the girls fight, either they still being friend but not really close or they hold grudge forever.. Its rare for Girls fight turn into a friendship... But for me.. It neither one.. Because i am a girl.. And the person i fight was a boy.. 😂😂 basically the fight start when i was joking in a bad time.. He yell at me infront of our friends and i was in a verge of crying and yell back at him.. We yelling at each other until he was about to throw a punch to me and at the same time i am too (even though i am a girl) 😂😂 luckily at that time our friends hold us apart and told us to cool down... We sat down at a table.. 8 of us.. At that time i was crying and doesn't want to look at him.. For a few hours we doesn't talk to each other.. The moment we about to go home.. He tap me on my shoulder and said.. " I'm sorry. " with just that words i smile and reply with the same words. He said that for once he really felt like a real bad person because he was about to punch me.. At that time he can't settle down with his anger because i keep yelling at him too😂😂 we've being friend for 4 years at that time.. And now it's been 8 years of our friendship.. And i haven't been in any fight with my friends after that..

[@angelalovesroberu6458]

It’d be hot to see kanae get mad 😳😳😳

[@shootingstar7208]

Are these two official couple...I'm new to vtubera soooo....yeah i need answers!

[@thanglongnguyenvu3815]

They're not lol.

[@Cornholio8787]

ok but when is their coming out story?

[@doggypi1532]

Could it be about the kanae Mic?~

[@fad5018]

im new to this fandom what does ChroNoir means?

[@Cerita__Dunia]

Chro is pronounced Kuro which means Black=黒 and NoiR=Black (in France) they both loves the color Black.. sooo

[@alucard002x]

Wait a minute that wasn't a fight it was gay sex.

[@ksiyaskid]

Bet it was about a girl.

[@fatema8923]

wait i am new so like are they a couple ? i am sorry if i assumed wrong

[@akashikarma7283]

No they're best friend

[@fatema8923]

@@akashikarma7283 oh sorry its my bsf said they were dating