Kanchanjunga Express Accident Lesson-126

[@parthasarathi3034]

नमेस्ते sir। आप का विवरण बहुत बढ़िया है। इस एक्सीडेंट के बाद हमारे बीच में काफी चर्चा हो रही है।पर क्लैरिटी कोई नही दे रहा even CLI and TI । आप के इस वीडियो के माध्यम से पूरी तरह पिक्चर साफ हुवा।इस के लिए अप को कोटि कोटि प्रणाम। इसी तरह पिछले दुखद घटनाओं के बारे में भी चर्चा करे। थैंक्यू सर 🙏🙏

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Ok 👍 Thank you so much 😊

[@SATISHKUMAR-oi2pt]

Thank you sir Jankari dene ke liye

[@shravanjsr3554]

Thanq sir

[@Rockstar0121]

Thank you sir.. I am goods train manager PAU/NED/SCR (ntpc new joining). All doubts are clear.....

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@Amirkhan-Railway-LDCE]

Please be continue Sir for more & more videos

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Sure 👍

[@Rajkumarsingh..]

Sir you are our best teacher Thankyou sir

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@williammanual8681]

Thank you so much.. Very well explained.. For ur valuable time.

[@dasarirambabu9925]

Thank you very much Sir, you clearly explained never a situation arises to issue T/A 912 to LP alone or in isolation. i.e. it would be issued along with other documents only. Never alone. The ambiguity is cleared. Thank you once again Sir, I expect from you more videos regarding G&SR.

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Thank you ☺️ Definitely I love to do something useful for you all always 😊

[@shaikbabajan2310]

Good Morning, Sir. Thank you very much Sir. Sir, Loco pilot not signed the T/A912 .

[@UdayKumar-rj1om]

Sir, jab kanchanjanga ko T/A912 diya gaya tha to vah ON signal par kyu ruka ?? Please bataye sir...

[@khursheednashimvlogs7192]

If starter fails in auto section...and it is not the last stop signal .... authority kya milega?

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

T/369 (3b)

[@mdalauddinansari4334]

Sir T/A 912 ke bare me g& SR me detail kaha deya hua hai?

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

GR/SR 9.12

[@vilasavhad3984]

Thank you sir

[@dharmendrachoubey4751]

thanks sir for good information.

[@rakeshchoudhary-pq6bl]

Thank you sir

[@VikashKumar-r7t]

thank you Sir

[@shaktimaanh1153]

Sir , if only Adv. starter is failed in auto-signalling then what should be the authority?

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

T/369(3b)+CO

[@SWARUPKRPAUL]

Sir if T/D912 given then 1st train speed 25kmph and next train speed normal in this condition locopilot stop his train below automatic and semi automatic signal and hold 1min or 2 min?

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

No need to stop 😊

[@infocentre9786]

Thank you sir

[@Trainmanager431]

Question arises if plct would have been given then??

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Then we have to follow only one train at a time in the Block section

[@pankajpathak222]

Nicely explained. Please study more accidents and make more videos explaining rules and regulations which should have been followed.

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Ok 👍

[@avinashyadav531]

Watch at 1.5x

[@nayak9489]

Sir booked speed, normal speed or MPS me kya difference hai

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Aajkal sabzi same hot hai, log normal speed/MPS bolts hain, purine time mein, alag tha

[@mdalauddinansari4334]

Sir agar plct ke sath T/A 912 miltaa hai to keya usme next block staion ke home signal ko v on me pass karne ke ley mention keya ja sakta hai.

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

No, Never 😊

[@SantoshSingh-bz9mg]

Thank u sir

[@pappuyadav5924]

GOOD MORNING SIR

[@maheshgaikwad963]

Thank you sir

[@rupalisarkar7093]

Actually the automatic block system is installing New in N.F.Railway

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Ok 👍 That may be one reason 😮

[@ayodhyapal7864]

Sir, Thanks for suggestions...

[@10091966able]

Thank you very much, sir for the clear information regarding the latest accident

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@studytrick6471]

Thank u sir i always wait for ur videos

[@SantoshKumarMeena-pk1ms]

दस मिनट कि बात को 45 मिनट में 🤌 सब पढ़े भी है और जानते भी हैं बस थोड़ा रिमांड ही तो.... बाकी मानवीय भूल का कोई नहीं रोक सकता 😮

[@nileshdeore1287]

Sahi hai

[@ashramstars9096]

Thank u sir

[@DISTANCEBETWEEN-bn1qd]

Good morning sir

[@NenuNadesham-yg3sv]

Sir, reason of accident not explained. The rear SM will permit the train on receiving LC from ahead station with PN. In this situation of occupied section how he got line clear, and allowed another train into block section. Some thing is behind the scenes.

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Automatic Area means we can send more than one train in the Block Section 😊

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

SM should have suspended the Automatic working in case of Signalling failure and give T/D 912 with C.O. Or If trains are going without Authority then they will stop on all the Failed Signals (Red light) and proceed further with Speed Restriction 15/10 KMPH

[@bkumar3265]

Very nice and useful information sir Your 1/14 Alp Batch

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Thank You

[@SantoshMishra-un2mk]

Thank you so much sir jee for updating 🙏

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@nageshwarkumar2847]

Very important information sir.

[@basavaiahl6943]

Excellent sir

[@sibasethy49]

Thank you Sir 🙏🙏🙏

[@sandeepksnf]

Thank U for uploading sir❤❤❤❤❤

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@venkatarajeshvurrakula3130]

​@@mangalaprasadojha5328 aap railway me instructor hai kya sir ji , bahut achaa tareeka hai padhane ka bahut bahut dhanyavad aapko🙏

[@sandeepksnf]

@@mangalaprasadojha5328 Thank u sir

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

@@venkatarajeshvurrakula3130 Yes

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

@@venkatarajeshvurrakula3130 Yes 👍

[@ChandanKumar-oo2fr]

As-16 ka explanation sir

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

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[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

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[@vidyasagaruchula6545]

Very clear explanation. My doubt cleared after knowing NFER speed restriction 25/10 for all trains .

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@dharmendrachoubey4751]

atomatic section में single line working in double line के समय कौन सा फॉर्म दिया जाएगा?? please update me

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

T/D 602+T/A 912

[@dharmendrachoubey4751]

@@mangalaprasadojha5328 thanks sir aapka video bhut acha rhta hai easily shmgh me aa jata hai.

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

@@dharmendrachoubey4751 Thank you 😊

[@RakeshSingh-qg4zo]

Thanks sir

[@ravikumar-tu9bm]

Thanks sir

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@pradeepkumarmahto9449]

Thank u sir 🙏

[@zion08vijay]

Good morning sir

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Good morning 😊

[@mdalauddinansari4334]

Sir kitni trains ko TA 912 deya gaya tha?

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

05:50 hrs se 08:45 hours tak sabhi gadi ko 😊

[@basabhazra-w8m]

Thank you Sir. Very useful video Sir.

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Yes 👍

[@mdalauddinansari4334]

Keya kanchanjunga ke lp ko v T/A912 deya gaya tha?

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Yes

[@manishkushwaha9582]

Yes

[@PremjeetKumar-m1w]

25/10 इस लिए दिया गया है कि इधर foggi वेदर रहता है जो कि scr में कम रहता है

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Ok 👍

[@samsar785]

Can you pass 3km stretch with 9 level crossing at say 70kmph even if there is no speed restrictions???

[@SonuGupta-bu1gd]

Yes it can even go upto what the sectional speed is

[@bashisthkumarsharma322]

Thanks sir

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@udaypratap7644]

Thanku sir and continue this 🙏

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Sure 👍

[@mdalauddinansari4334]

Keya kanchan junga train hime signal pet khari thi?

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Automatic signal per hi ruki thi.

[@btanaya14]

We hv never felt bored during your teaching...

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Thank you

[@Amirkhan-Railway-LDCE]

Thanks Sir

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@bhawani3918]

सर जी.... इसमें यह भी तो जरूरी है कि जब T/A 912 स्टेशन मास्टर/ DY SS के द्वारा LP को,अकेले दिया गया तो LP को भी तो इस बात के लिए बोलना चाहिए था ना, कि यह ओथोरेटी नियमानुसार अकेले नही दिया जाता है ❓ वहां पर उस दिन जितने भी गाड़ी के LP को,अकेले यानी सिर्फ T/A 912 दिया गया और LP द्वारा उस ओथोरेटी को लेकर वहां से प्रस्थान किया, तो क्या LP के द्वारा भी नियमों का उलंघन नही हुआ ❓ क्या LP को भी GR&SR का जानकारी नही थी ❓ क्या SM/DYSS के द्वारा कोई भी सही ग़लत ओथोरेटी दिया जाएगा और LP उसे लेकर और सही मानकर गाड़ी लेकर प्रस्थान कर जायेंगे ❓ तो क्या यह नियमानुसार सही होगा ❓ B.Paswan Train Manager Mail Express SER Ranchi DIVISION (Hatia)

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

आपकी बात सही है, LP की भी ज़िम्मेदारी होती है😊

[@ashujanghel4809]

To train manager bhi to sbhi gadi me rahe honge jinko authority Mila hoga.... ya information Mila hoga authority Milne ka....to koi bhi train manager LP ko ye niyam kyn ni btaye???....LP ke uper turnt ungli uthate ho...train manager ko bhi sbhi authority ke bare me knowledge hona chaiye..... Train manager piche bus arrival departure likhne or signal exchange krne ke liye ni hota h.... Ap mail ke train manager h par ek bhi line me train manager ki glti ni btaye.... Ungli hmesa LP ke uper hi kyn uthti h????

[@RANJEETKUMAR-nk2kg]

Train maneger ka koy jimmedari nahi hai n

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

@@ashujanghel4809 बिल्कुल सही बात 👍

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

@@RANJEETKUMAR-nk2kg 😀

[@d.kmeena4553]

Very good sir

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Thank you ☺️

[@MDiwakar207]

Thanks sir ..

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 🤗

[@laxmipinninti-r3f]

Sir, plz clarify why 13174 Exp stop at Auto signal even they got authority to pass at On position. Thank you sir for your valuable information, so many cleared with your vedio.

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

LP was following normal procedure to pass Automatic Signal at on, By stopping 1 min/2 min day/night

[@laxmipinninti-r3f]

Thank you, plz reply in CBT MCQ conducted by NAIR for Group B , the answers will be taken as per GR or SR.

[@luckylucky6754]

Thanks

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

U are welcome 🤗

[@SMRajat]

As per amendment slip 49 in NFR, after automatic signal failure S&T dept will declare that it will be prolonged failure and Train will move in line clear like absolute block system....Now let me clear one thing in between signal failure time and prolonged failure declaration by S & T dept how train movement will be done????

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Very good question asked by you, Thanks for that 😊 Now the answer is before declaring prolonged failure, let the trains go without giving any authority. LP will stop on the defective signal for 1 min by day or 2 min by night and proceed further cautiously not exceeding 15 KMPH during day when view is clear & 10 KMPH when view is not clear or night time, (Rule-Passing Automatic Signal at on). If we give T/A 912 to LP, there is 💯 percent chance of Accident like this. And in G&SR, nowhere rule is available to give T/A 912 alone. Further any Signal (Automatic/Manual) when fails, it will show only Red Light (Stop Aspect)

[@anupdatta84]

​@@mangalaprasadojha5328 Sir can you please explain SR 9.01/1 of amendment slip 49 in NFR?

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

@@anupdatta84 Ok I will make video on this Amendment 👍

[@anupdatta84]

@@mangalaprasadojha5328 Sir this is one liner SR, where asked to issue T/A 912 when Automatic/Semi Automatic/Manual signal failed

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

@@anupdatta84 OK I have written here SR 9.01/1 given below:- "Amendment Slip No.49 to G&SR book, 2004 edition of of N.F. Railway dated 10/11/2023 Item no. 1 -Add the following as SR 9.01/1 on page no. 240: SR 9.01/1: Operating form No. T/A 912 is the Authority to pass Automatic /Semi- Automatic/Manually Operated/ Gate stop signal ni defective." iI is telling the name of the Authority T/A 912. But it is creating confusion and due to this confusion SM has given single Authority T/A 912. Now imagine the problem of this Authority when given alone - LP will go with normal speed, because there is no speed restriction in the Authority. If any preceding train stops due to any problem like Hot Axle/Hot Box or ACP or any other reason, but the following train will come with normal speed and may collide with the train moving ahead. Due to this reason we discuss in the class that this Authority T/A 912 should not be given alone. Either do not give any Authority and Trains will proceed observing "Rules of Passing Automatic Signals At On" or suspend Automating Working and follow SR 9.12/1 of AS 49 of NFR dated 10-11-2023 (i.e. using T/D 912, C.O. 25/10 KMPH and only one train in the Block Section at a time) But I agree strongly with you that this rule "SR 9.01/!" is not very clear and Administration should clearly mention that it will not be given in isolation (alone). In G&SR at so many places confusing rules are there and require clarity. While teaching at ZRTI/Hyderabad we as Instructor take it our responsibility to clarify the rules and clear the doubts of our Trainees in the interest of Safety. Same we expect from other ZRTIs also. Thank you so much for your interest. I took time to discuss with you and feel happy about it.

[@sanjaykumarprasad7788]

बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद सर आपकी बातें ज्ञानवर्धक लगी , दुर्घटना का कुछ कारण मानसिक दबाव भी होता है जिसमें abnormal condition में भी गाड़ियों का जल्दी चलाने का दबाव रहता है

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

आप ठीक कह रहे हैं 😊 धन्यवाद 😊

[@MUKESHKUMAR-xf3xq]

आपका जितना भी वीडियो है,सब ज्ञानवर्धक है।खुशी होती है जब आपका वीडियो देश के हर कोने पर देखा जाता है और ऐसे वक्त में तो सब आपका ही विडीयो देख रहा है। आपका वीडियो बरौनी क्रू लाबी में चल रहा था।

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

Thank you ☺️

[@nirmalgharami4167]

Thank you sir, verey nice

[@mangalaprasadojha5328]

You are welcome 😊