Quietism in Metaethics / interview with Andrew Sepielli

[@blankname5177]

Keep bringing more guest. I love to see you discussing stuff with other philosopher. This (So far) was a really good conversation. Thanks for doing this

[@vicchung]

This guy teaches at my school!

[@joshuabrecka6012]

Me too!

[@pawarranger]

@@joshuabrecka6012 you also teach at his school?

[@joshuabrecka6012]

@@pawarranger oh no lol. My comment was badly put. I meant Andrew Sepuelli teaches at the University of Toronto and that's the school I attend (as does Victor C apparently). I dont teach philosophy yet.

[@pawarranger]

@@joshuabrecka6012 haha no worries, was just pulling your leg.

[@TheDiko32]

Great conversation!

[@ericb9804]

I sympathize with Andrew's attempt to reconcile what he calls "pragmatism" with traditional moral realism, but it just seems like he is trying to eat his representationalist cake and eat it too. I'd rather see him attempt this reconciliation without recourse to realist terminology. I don't see how he can be a "pragmatist" and yet also appeal to "objectivity." I don't see how he can be a "quietist" and yet also declare the existence of an "independent realm of autonomous ethical truths" (58:00). As Kane points out, (32:40), seems to clearly be "bringing metaphysics back to pragmatism," thus making it no longer "pragmatism." At the end of the day, like all those who appeal to "stance independence oughts," he just laments that people are not always trustworthy and sometimes need to be controlled. And yet the only justification for that control can come from other people, who, conveniently, we don't want to control.

[@inoculatedcity]

Epic shirt Kane

[@orangereplyer]

This is fantastic, thank you.

[@eotenas]

1:45:25

[@dionysianapollomarx]

Awesome

[@ericb9804]

Ultimately Kane is right (1:01:38) - moral realists are a bunch of dorks. Coolness is the most important norm.

[@bokramubokramu8834]

Good shit. More.

[@notadane]

Increase playback speed to at least 1.25. Thank me later.

[@squatch545]

Please tell me you're not growing out your neckbeard again? lol

[@KaneB]

No, I've just been too lazy to shave

[@justus4684]

@@KaneB The return of the neck beard - the lazy-illusion

[@krispy256]

First