Kansas City Confidential (1952) [Film Noir]

[@waweev1871]

For all the film noir fanatics, this is the best. The acting, plot always on point . Thanks for sharing

[@robert18shapiro]

This is a better telling of the tale than in RESEVOIR DOGS. I love the tension and grittiness of this b&w film masterpiece.

[@eugenerosenbaum3047]

Robert Shap

[@upstairs1307]

“A mysterious fellow (Preston Foster) contacts a trio of criminals (Jack Elam, Neville Brand, Lee Van Cleef) to help with a bank heist. The four wear masks and remain strangers to each other, planning to reunite in Mexico to divvy up the loot. Joe Rolfe (John Payne), the man they framed to take the heat, gets his charges dropped, and the police offer him a reward if he can help recover the cash. He agrees, and when one of the thieves meets his end, Rolfe assumes his identity to catch the crooks.”

[@kristofthibaud8491]

Excellent how the film turns when it becomes the Flower Delivery man's story. Holds up well 7 decades later!

[@ClassicGal]

I haven't seen many films starring John Payne besides on KZbin, but he was an underrated great actor imo. Same goes for Lee Van Cleef. He usually played the bad boy, which he played SO WELL (loved him, and his "swag"). Not to add Neville Brand was always his partner in crime, they made such a great pair. UGH. Thanks for sharing this Classic, it's genuinely one of my favorites on KZbin.

[@rorygreene7275]

Agree. Lee Van Cleef was a great actor.

[@DonFahquidmi]

Hey, Classic Gal, although your post regarding Kansas City Confidential is 7 years old, I thought it might interest you that almost all of the male actors were veterans of WWII. Quite often I read the Wikipedia article about the movies I watch as well as the bios of the actors. Veterans have a special place in my heart.

[@longfade]

LOVED this movie. I just picked it at random, and am delighted that I did. Thanks so much for posting.

[@cesarelombroso6735]

Excellent film and good acting. John Payne was underrated in his time. Lee Van Cleef as Tony Romano was a classic role.

[@thomaspemrich1441]

Good lighting, camera, and sound. Great characters. Believable

[@TheSaltydog07]

I missed this last night on TCM Noir Alley. Glad to see it. Wow 💙

[@jerrycasey1635]

Well written story, great characters, good action...Came across this movie on accident about 10 years ago and watched it at least 100 times..

[@TIOMKIN1]

This is one of my all time favorite Film Noir movie with one of my favorite actors John Payne. The movie has a great Cast, Story, Director and a Excellent Film Score by Paul Sawtell. Thank for the upload. Out.

[@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys]

This was a fine old movie and Love those old actors. Neville Brand was a decorated war vet and we all know Lee from the super spaghetti westerns. Jack was one of the more popular character actors with those googlie eyes. Thanks for the great show~!!!!

[@godfreecharlie]

Can't beat a movie with a cast of accomplished actors, good plot and script. All of that given good direction and photography. I just hate watching a good movie and trying to find another one just as good for the follow up. That's where a good 3 hour film would be nice. Unfortunately there isn't a big selection of those to pick from.

[@QualityModelRailroad]

read lots of the comments and i agree.....one of the best noirs with noir stars galore...the screenwriting was superb and the tension, the shear amount of sweat and used cigarette butts and tough guy one liners....it has it all....haven't watched this in years but very happy i returned to it....amazing what hollywood could do with great actors and great writing

[@strattuner]

all star cast and definitely worth the watch,John payne IS A VERY GOOD ACTOR,thanks for the upload

[@asullivan4047]

The3-co stars enhanced his performance-!!!🤗

[@harrywhite7883]

Wow the story and script of this movie is something. Very creative idea and plot. This is just a great cinematic masterpiece.

[@marywilliams9858]

Lee Van Cleef has great cheekbones!

[@dabdella1460]

Very good kept me watching close to see how things would pan out, great cast of actors

[@SwarthySkinnedOne]

I've watched this one for about 20x now. I guess that means I've liked it a lil.

[@pauldyckman7539]

I had forgotten how well done and entertaining this KCC is.I am thinking of John Payne in "Miracle on 34th st". Little Natalie Wood and is it Edmund Gwinn as Santa? Look at "Kansas C. C". compared to "Miracle" they are polar opposites. Actors who can play any character like Laughton, Spencer Tracy etc. These are the best actors.

[@johnfrank2114]

Okay it's a great thing for me to say that is great!

[@johnfrank2114]

@@pauldyckman7539 Do you want to meet me in Kansas City? Because I am gonna go to Kansas! You better be there!

[@michaeldanello3966]

I always liked Jack Elam. This was when his lazy eye hadn't become so obvious.. He also did some hilarious comedy later in his career, especially Support Your Local Sheriff with James Garner.

[@fluhhg2190]

Michael Danello 1st

[@carolecarle7921]

O wow...thanks for the "memory flogger" as the late great Garry Owens would say..."Support Your Local Sheriff" was outstanding...largely due to the amazing performance of Joan Hackett!

[@gallagherrutledge8063]

They really knew how to write a screenplay back then. Every modern movie is a cop with a bad attitude and worse marriage, a black chief who tells him he's off the case (which the cop ignores), then after a car chase through the fruit stand district, the cop rescues the girl, who hated him up until then, from the villain's lair, which goes up in pyrotechnic splendor. Ho hum.

[@nejm612]

You really know how to write a comment! 🎩 Yes, the dialogue is great! So is everything else, camera angles, etc

[@nejm612]

And the hats! And that police boss's suit with the sharp lapels 😵

[@vonjunzt4130]

'through the fruit stand district". LOL right on the money!

[@garyteague4480]

You left out the gay hero

[@hardworker5588]

you my friend will be getting a call from Hollywood in 5 minutes ... you are their new golden-boy screenwriter

[@thomasbroadwater2214]

My favorite line " thanks for...nuthin." I use it all the time.

[@aghostbro]

While the writing is sometimes as ham-fisted as John Payne's punches, I thoroughly enjoyed the story of the most hard-ass flower delivery man ever.

[@skcyclist]

I probably saw this when I was 9 years old in 1952. I like it more than ever now. Familiar cast of villains Jack Elam, Lee Van Cleef what's not to like?

[@bromisovalum8417]

Great movie, thanks for uploading

[@VanlifewithAlan]

Thank you - I am following your advice and I will watch these films next. Another element seems to be the amount of films taking place in San Francisco - I would say at least half seem to be there!

[@geezersinc]

Excellent! Thank you.

[@farizavianto4990]

Information: Kansas City Confidential is a Classic noir film. Developed and originally Published by Namco and it runs on System 2 arcade hardware in July 1991. The sound and music and voice from western electric recording is done with YM2151OPM and Namco C140 PCM. This game is ported only Japanese Super Famicom in October 1992.

[@johnrogan9420]

Moving trailers of this Era looked like cattle haulers.

[@mikeacton2203]

old angel eyes, the bad. Lee Van Cleef, Neville Brand played Al Capone on the untouchables

[@kenshiloh]

Jack Elam described his career like this: Who's Jack Elam? Get Jack Elam Get someone like Jack Elam Who's Jack Elam?

[@steveburrus9347]

yA I liker the scene in "Once Upon A Time in the West" in which Jack Elam has some problems with a fly on his nose and decides to use a gun to take care of it.

[@amirkhannoir3946]

The film noir - the greatest chapters in the history of cinema! Starting with the 1930 and 1955's film noir created by great directors and actors of high class! Which of the current actors can now replace Humphrey Bogart, Peter Lorre, and Edmond O' Brian ...? No one! There are no such persons, who could now mimic film noir. America, as most of these films belong to the film companies of the country, created a fashion, clothes, hats, cigars, whiskey, cars, sparkling night of advertising, casinos, restaurants, and so forth, just yet created ideal breeding ground for crime novels, which served the script for the black-and-white films. Prohibition has created a mafia and gangsters, in their turn became the heroes of many "black" films. The great director Alfred Hitchcock, Fritz Lang, John Huston, Robert Siodmak, Rudolph Mate, Billy Wilder and Otto Perminger, Raoul Walsh, Jean Negulesco, Edward Dmytryk, ........ they are not repeatable !!! See the film noir. About 200 of the immortal masterpieces of world cinema! Long live the film noir !!! My eternal love of film noir !!!

[@suziewonder9660]

AMIRKHAN NOIR And Edward G Robinson!!!

[@willieluncheonette]

i share your love of film noir. My 2 favs are Kiss Me Deadly and Touch of Evil. If you've never seen Lang's last film 1000 Eyes Of Dr, Mabuse, there's now a English subtitled version on youtube. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

[@marilaucher9989]

Don't forget British Noir. The actors were amazing. Barbara Stanwick and Fred McMurry were my fav Americans. There is a FilmNoir facebook page. Lots of Noirs and Noirettes there.

[@4nomorewaragain6]

AMIRKHAN NOIR Prohibition was brought in by first wave feminists. "Males" who helped the ladies were looked down upon and that had a lot to do with the popularity of gangsters as "real men".

[@JerryDay]

Check out the trio of baddies: Neville Brand, Lee Van Cleef, and Jack Elam. Wow!

[@gusbuckingham6663]

That is what I was just about to chime in with!

[@thecraziestcanuck]

Great upload 👌 Fantastic film with a great story and brilliant actors. Thx

[@thomahammer9581]

Interesting, but I just heard this film mentioned in a rerun MASH episode tonight. It was announced over the loud speaker that it would be playing in the mess tent that evening. It was in the episode where a Colonel being treated for a broken ankle had his favorite sidearm revolver stolen by Major Frank Burns and Radar was blamed.

[@LewdCustomer]

"Sorry I had to rough you up" - how many times have we all had to say that.

[@eldaddio9100]

The Great Lee Van Cleef from "Escape From New York" the first one not the POS sequels 🔥💥!!

[@johnfrank2114]

Yeah he was in Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns movies!

[@JEM133]

Awesome character. Love Lee Van Cleef, da man!

[@avvocato5543]

Good movie entertainment. John Payne playing a tough guy is shocking, but he does a good job. The three mugs - Neville Brand, Lee Van Clef, and Jack Elam - also good!

[@suckeggs999]

Super cool movie love B n W films thanks for posting.

[@MrBill2719]

Another John Payne noir to check out..."99 River Street" Also directed by Phil Karlson. I'd give this one a slight edge, but both really good.

[@hertzair1186]

…agreed, just watched 99 River Street recently….also a good noir

[@demetriusdion286]

If it's not in the Script, it's not on the Screen. In the beginning was the Word. The Screenplay starts the whole production process. The Screenplay is the most important Stage of film production. It should contain 80% of the movie, the rest is the contribution of the other production members, such as the Continuity girl, the Director of Photography, the Sound man, the Music Composer, the Film Director, and the last but not the least the Film Editor. Oh, I forgot about the Actors Write to inspire the other crew members. Enough said.

[@demetriusdion286]

@SRV. 123 , Dude, I know more about film in my little finger than you know in your whole body. Reading consists of comprehension too. All the experts know that without the Screenplay all these people would've been hired. It all starts with the script, without a script, what do you have? No Actors, no Cinematographer, no Soundman, no Set Designer, no Lighting man, no Special Effect man, no film Editor, etc. It all starts with the Script, if it's not on the page, it's not on the stage.

[@radbcc]

Wow, nice story and great casting... Reminds me of Taking Pelham 123...

[@VanlifewithAlan]

I watched Pitfall last night which was excellent. Gun Crazy is on youtube - although in Spanish - which I speak so I will watch that tonight. One thing I like about noir films is the lack of happy endings meaning that one never knows how they will turn out!

[@sclogse1]

Everyone is great in this very enjoyable tough film. What makes a noir great is that once you've seen it, and got over the nervous tension these films bring on...(who's gonna get it..) then when you watch again, you can just dig how much fun the film is to watch...and how much went into making it work. This is a perfect example. These guys are all perfect, and Lee Van Cleef (sp?) is particularly good in this... kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnmap5edbdJsg7s

[@yeahriight57]

Thank you for sharing 😄

[@kennethlarke7774]

Jack Elam, who did a lot of westerns in the 50's and 60's, TV and film.

[@carolecarle7921]

Hilariously spot on is the fact that "Elam" backwards spells "male", right?!

[@Cracktaculus]

Elam's 'Pete Harris' 'in this is the best acting in the film next to the main character.

[@MrBurninCross]

Gotta say, this stuff is what crime, mystery, drama, n' suspense is all about; and the women...!

[@jackgrattan3144]

Jack Elam, Neville Brand, and Lee Van Cleef. They had FACES then. To hell with the pretty boys. Probably Phil Karlson's best movie.

[@willieluncheonette]

even see The Shanghai Cobra, a Charlie Chan movie? Don't laugh. It's directed by Karlson. Watch the first scene---pure noir.

[@chicagofrank2010]

Please post more old movies like this.

[@kingstonnine2393]

Brilliant!

[@MrCurrican]

Nice classic. Great.

[@zoranstarcevic7529]

america made such good films in 50s 60s.70s after that those orig hollywood actors were the best

[@wadenye6895]

Very well written, acting was professional i like this film.

[@jimervin387]

Lots of suspense and drama there drama there. And that '46-'47 Mercury woody wagon wasn't bad either. I guess that in those days, a suspect didn't have the right to call a lawyer when the cops started roughing him up. But he recovered nicely.

[@songbirdy]

John Payne in a suit and hat is a beautiful sight!

[@VanlifewithAlan]

Yes, I saw Raw Deal as one of the first noirs in my recent wave. There is something I would like to recommend to you which is the British Get Carter from 1971 - not the 2000 remake with Sylvester Stallone. This was filmed in the area I grew up in and at the same time I grew up there. I think I have understood your taste which is why I am suggesting it!

[@johnrogan9420]

Michael Caine in "Der Adler ist Gelandet "...what an amazing actor.

[@VanlifewithAlan]

I watched Gun Crasy, Private Hell 36 but the best by far is Sudden Fear - Joan Crawford was absolutely brilliant. The other films were good too!!

[@e.scotttaylor2982]

a great thriller and fine acting from all the cast

[@paulmcginn5146]

i am enjoying this immensely. the cast is a 1

[@sergusbower1270]

Brilliant thank you So much

[@VanlifewithAlan]

Thank you - I am going to watch these films next. Unfortunately On Dangerous Ground is not on you tube but Pitfall is and I shall be watching that first. I am not really into westerns without Clint Eastwood but I shall certain give your suggestion a try!

[@stellablue9589]

Excellent movie!

[@VanlifewithAlan]

John Payne was the first person to recognise the potential of James Bond and in 1955 he took out an option on Moonraker. Moonraker was one of the first books in the series although the film was not released until 1979. He paid USD9,000 for the option which was a lot of money in those days but a fraction of what Moonraker eventually took. John died in 1989 aged 77 so I suppose he got to see Moonraker!

[@TIOMKIN1]

Good information. Thanks.

[@ralphcrisp2112]

But he let the option on Moonraker...expire in 1962...and lost all rights to it

[@manion1947]

These movies are so good. Le van cliff big don dadda from back in the day. Roughian

[@guillermojensen1332]

Nice movie. Love the oldies

[@ergbudster3333]

Jack Elam is in this movie. So is Preston Foster, Neville Brand, and Lee Van Cleef. Its like a summit of great second banana bad guys.

[@VanlifewithAlan]

I knew Lee Van Cleef was coming up so I was forewarned. The point is would I have recognised him had I not known and I don't think I would have!

[@steveburrus9347]

Well as someone who was born in 1952 [the yuear of this movie], my birthday was just yesterday let's see if I like this movie or not. I like all film noirs in general.

[@Papa-o33963]

Happy birthday Steve

[@steveburrus9347]

@@Papa-o33963 Thanx for that. I just hope that, being now 67, I have manhy more birthdays to come.

[@scallopohare9431]

Thank you.

[@paulstark6818]

That was great what a cast the sure look different in suites compared to western gear thank you for great story ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@rwindle100]

These guys sure do carry a lot of guns.

[@asullivan4047]

Interesting/informative/entertaining. Remember Paine/Brand/Cleef/Elam from 50 + years ago-!!!🤔. I venture to guess that all 4 are currently taking the eternal walk down Hollywood Boulevard-???🤔. Enjoyed viewing the automobiles/delivery vans/phones/boats/Telegram from that era🤗. Realistically portrayed citizens/criminals/law enforcement officials. Enjoyable Sunday afternoon movie. 😉.

[@queenjr.6521]

Love this movie 🎉

[@fawzialshalabi]

Walk by night is much better. This has some senthesis to diplace facts, especially flavoring love scenes.

[@Frank-ue6eg]

Ohhhhh shit - Jack Elam is in this one!! Whenever Elam shows up you know you're in for a wild fucking ride - he always played a whacked out fucking pscho killer on the loose. I'm guessing there will be some very crazy stuff happening in this one and whacked out Jack Elam will be at the crazy helm.

[@winstonpaul3398]

A Great Classic Movie

[@16fanlakers19]

Really a good movie. Thanks for the upload. I wouldn't have been surprised to see Clint Eastwood in this flick.

[@flaviacastagnola4859]

Hello! Does anyone can tell me if this movie is in public domain (royalty free)? Thank you!!

[@VanlifewithAlan]

Sometimes it is difficult to quantify what the word disappointed means. It is a personal experience!

[@christorpher84]

Beautiful actress Coleen Gray

[@VanlifewithAlan]

I was thinking of you recently but could not remember where we had our exchange. I came across a really brilliant film recently, very much film noir but it is British and from 1961 so a bit out of location and period. It is called Victim and apparently was instrumental in the law on homosexuality being changed. Really exciting film - see it if you get the chance!

[@bullitt7544]

Top Shelf Movie from you TCM Film Noir ****

[@VanlifewithAlan]

I just saw Witness to Murder with Barbara Stanwyck - really exciting. I am surprised some remake has not been made of that although as a rule the remakes are worse - take that 'updated' version of The Postman Always Rings Twice for example. I thought it awful compared to the original!

[@johnrogan9420]

Van Cleef was a real life hero of WW2.

[@buschovski1]

Raw Deals good yeah. Some more good ones are Scarlet Street, the hitchhiker, Quicksand,(w/ Mickey Rooney. And hes really good in it.) Detour, DOA, The Big Combo, Cry of the City(with Richard Conte) awesome movie. Oh and check out Kiss of Death. With Richard Widmark and Victor Mature. Awesome movie.

[@hertzair1186]

Im in downtown Kansas City right now, watching this….

[@humble41011]

John Payne was hot. Old time beefcake. Those bad guys really worked him over and looked like they enjoyed it.

[@XyzXyz-mm9vq]

Owszem, niektóre polskie filmy z lat 50-60-tych w pewnym sensie przypominają gatunek "Film Noir". Przykładem może być "Ostatni Kurs", "Pociąg", "Złote koło", "Zbrodniarz który ukradł zbrodnię", "Dwaj panowie "N", "Nóż w wodzie", itp. Wszystkie p/ż wymienione to nic innego jak Polska Klasyka,

[@pfflyers1]

A lot of holes in the ending, but overall an excellent flick

[@boiledcrap]

53:59 HOLY CRAP IT'S LEE VAN CLEEF!!!!

[@stevenrichards3699]

mint!

[@VanlifewithAlan]

Yes, you have made a good point. I think it got a bit slow towards the end, however I see that I wrote on my facebook group that I thought it was a good film. So it was good but obviously I was expecting better! I have been watching a lot of noirs recently of which there are plenty on you tube! Very enjoyable! The only one I did not like was the Saint Louis Bank Robbery which was awful!

[@zivlevi246]

Great fill, quite unique

[@zivlevi246]

No l am not Ziv l am Cathy Lofts

[@russellhurst3041]

its amazing how much John Payne looks like Kevin Spacey, and he to play later in L A confidential, in this film there is a tomoso, and in L A confidential there is a Rolo tomosi coincidence or a stretch?

[@Broadsmore]

Did you know that he and Audie Murphy were good friends. Or the story about him and Muphy in a bar in Idyllwild I think it was. Someplace near Banning? Anyway him and Murphy were in a bar when three guys thought they could pick on Jack Elam... look up the rest for yourself. It's a great story. Including another one about this guy who tried to rob him. And the guy was a GIANT.

[@frankmulcahy8286]

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[@Frank-ue6eg]

Wow - at about 13:00 the scene features a cop dispatcher referring to the previously "scened" armed robbery as a 11-7. 11-7 is code for a prowler - not armed robbery. The screen-writers should have known that 11 codes pertain to less serious crimes and issues. a 211 is and always was the radio code for armed robbery in progress.

[@kenshiloh]

Can anyone think of a better mystery movie about a flower delivery guy? Great movie, but the ending cracks me up (SPOILER ALERT): Friend tells daughter, who does not seem to be very sad about her father's recent demise, "I feel the loss as keenly as you do." Um huh. They used to be really close, but let's end the movie on a happy note!

[@michgingras]

nice movie but i will wait for the 4k version

[@StevenTorrey]

A taut drama both as a physiological thriller and crime thriller. Rivals "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" --the acting here was low key rather than the overacted "Treasure of the Sierra Madre." Great movie.

[@ergbudster3333]

Badgers? We don't need no steeeeeenkin' badgers! Yeah, I know. Somebody said Canada is full of badgers. Ha ha! So that's what I replied. Anyhow, good ol' Bogey was one of the greatest scenery-chewers ever! A great ol' wonderful hambone. Him and the mexican are the best parts. Only the best actors know how to overact and get away with it.

[@robertcherry1369]

Great action crime movie

[@MrTrackman100]

Gee, a Happy Ending!

[@moejuggler6033]

Love, love, love it, but how can you leave it here on KZbin without being DMCA'd. I posted a SUPER rare noir, The Verdict 1946, the other day and it was taken down within 2 days.

[@jonarbuckle5701]

+Jeremy McKinley This movie's in the public domain. The Verdict's probably still under copyright

[@daisyflowers9334]

+jon arbuckle It's amazing, some of the movies, that are in the public domain. This one for example, is a classic Film Noir, and one wouldn't think it would be. You know, a lot of People probably don't realize, that a lot of the movies, on Tuner Classic Movies, are in the Public Domain, and that is probably how Ted Turner launched this old movie channel. because he had a goldmine of public domain classic old movies,to pick from, and put in his movie lineup. Who know's, of course, but it sounds plausible to me!.. :-)

[@CaptainDooDoo-ans]

ask the copyright owner if you can post it, they might very well be happy to let you.