This is also a much better system for newer players who just don't have the resources saved up over years, you will be able to progressively upgrade your accessories as you go and find you can more progressive improvement in AP rather than get big jumps, will be able to see more progress gradually which I think will help with player retention.
@CrasherrPM2 ай бұрын
yes, horizontal progress is way better than vertical shit, i prefer a lot to farm for 1 day, buy 2k crons, click my thing, fail, and do the same thing next day over and over again until i get it, this is so much better than farming for like 1 week, to click something with higher chance, and if you fail you just lost 1 week of hard work in 10 seconds, and you have the illusion that is not that hard to go, like a pen debo with 15% chance, so you feel very unlucky, if you click something like a bs that is 6% chance, you are much more receptive to failure because you expect it to fail because of the very low chance
@Kizen.Ай бұрын
@@CrasherrPM except the accessory cant downgrade, and it has a higher chance on average per each upgrade until it reaches similar ap to pen debo
@zedecoАй бұрын
@@Kizen. is that a bad thing?
@Kizen.Ай бұрын
@@zedeco no. it means that its just always better than debo for 99.99999% of players at 99.99999999% of the time
@KoreanGeorgeАй бұрын
im glad that accessories wont fucking explode now
@TheCnfАй бұрын
I think this is great news. Progression is now much clearer and much easier with choices and goals to set, it's no longer the riddle it used to be. Only thing left is to salvage and work on reviving the PvP content next. Positive mindset and copium is our ally for now!
@Not_AyfeАй бұрын
Getting excited just listening to you talk about the Karazads, cant wait 🔥
@XTGAMEZ009Ай бұрын
I like the idea of 200 bsr while grinding.. PA should do more of this fun mechs on more grind spots
@BiceptimusPrimeАй бұрын
Yep! Its such a small thing, but i really love it. Hope they do more like that!
@Tsunami-Ай бұрын
This is completely amazing, can’t wait! PS: thank you so much for giving PA credit where it’s due!
@Lethmyr_2 ай бұрын
Actually big changes. I am hyped.
@AndicusАй бұрын
Wow this was such a breath of fresh air. The light at the end of this horrible doom tunnel. I'm excited for this, I've been stuck on Deboreka accessories not because it's difficult but because grinding for silver to snipe outfits off the market was so.. SOOO demotivating. I felt like there was no progression so I just couldn't bring myself to grind, it felt like _work_ . But this karazad system gives me hope, I'm actually excited. And I'm glad/surprised to see how they're handling the crystals on the karazads.
@cowpie1916Ай бұрын
editor working extra hard this week bless you
@BiceptimusPrimeАй бұрын
Thank you :>
@sirvere4840Ай бұрын
im liking this update, so is the play to sell tet debo's and just make base Karazad or keep the tet debo and convert?
@BiceptimusPrimeАй бұрын
For me, id keep the tets. The "profit" after tax is too slim for my liking, as i also have terrible enhancing RNG. But i would 100% NOT buy tets to convert. Selling and enhancing from base should be better tho, but again, i feel the margins are too slim after tax.
@sirvere4840Ай бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime thank you for another great answer. dude you and i seem to have to same rng... negative 😆 ok i'll keep them and convert over. keep up the amazing content also could we get a small video guide on the reforge stones. i see ALOT of people asking about them. seems there is a lack knowledge.
@gregofc35292 ай бұрын
I love this, I want more endgame items to require items that are farmed in multiple different spots
@JubunnaАй бұрын
I don't think Essence of dawn's price will stay 100m, the primordial stone market for NA has literally 100k + stones sitting on the cm on lowest price
@BiceptimusPrimeАй бұрын
Yeah dont think it will either. Its also why Choice used 75mil in the spreadsheet as a more realistic estimate.
@TiMEbeatsNoW2 ай бұрын
Only problem I see with the old Pen accessories, is that in the long term I believe that no one will ever chase pen just because of the effort needed and stacks needed. 10x value is losely equiavlent to having 10% enhance rates, but that requires a 200 stack to achieve. With kazarad also requiring the use of 200+ stacks after V, I don't think anyone would be willing to pop a 200 stack just for 10x more value when tets only need 100 stacks, or 50 despairs, to get. I think it should have been a higher value to justify using a 200 stock just for essences.
@TheQste2 ай бұрын
How is that a problem exactly? Old gear dies in bdo after sometime. Mark of shadowns and witches earing. Giath helm - all super dead items that used to be BIS. I see zero problem with this
@CrasherrPM2 ай бұрын
i don't think that's true, a lot of people don't enhance and have hoards and hoards of fs (like my self, i have 35 150fs because i literally don't click anything), going for pen yellow acessorys can be pretty good profit depending on the new essence price, but i do agree going for tet x10 is easier, but what the problem with that? people that already have the pen can melt it to get essences, and no one will never need them pen
@Valkeaa2 ай бұрын
As always thank you for the tldr
@BiceptimusPrime2 ай бұрын
aint nothing quick around these parts!
@notlacF2 ай бұрын
Huge
@BiceptimusPrime2 ай бұрын
its uuuge!
@OneOutMillion2 ай бұрын
How many weeks until market saturated with Essences?
@adriantay71012 ай бұрын
I have 3 PEN debo and 2 tet debo rings and 1 PEN vaha. I am wondering when would be a good time to convert it to karazad because of the debo set bonus. I am thinking of changing only 2 pen debo to karazad first. I am also wondering if i should upgrade another tet debo earring and convert to pen karazad. Another question is I am unsure which one has more value - 1) raw tapping to PEN debo ring and then convert to NOV Karazad 2) convert tet debo ring to PEN karazad and then upgrade 3) save up to buy pen debo ring
@hichemslimani3409Ай бұрын
If you have failstack go karazad ring If you have patience wait 2-3mounth maybe pen debo will drop to 150-180b (better way to go straight Nov) Nothing is clear now just wait and see RNG new acc and real average cost to NOV and prices debo during 2mounth then you can know what must to do
@adriantay7101Ай бұрын
@@hichemslimani3409 would you convert all 3 pen debo to karazad? 2 tet debo ring also convert to karazad?
@hichemslimani3409Ай бұрын
@@adriantay7101 if you have failstack to make ring karazad to Nov yes if not just wait and see if pen debo will drop to 200b
@hichemslimani3409Ай бұрын
@@adriantay7101 average cost to make Nov is 158b when you buy cron from costume and 208b when you buy from vendor and Nov karazad require (200+230+260+280+300 failstack) it still not accurate due to RNG luck
@jaxzianАй бұрын
now im conflicted should i sell my tet debos and go base to oct on karazad or just convert them to pen for the guarantee
@BiceptimusPrimeАй бұрын
With tax, its hardly worth the risk of selling. Im keeping my 2 tets personally. But its def not worth buying TETs to convert to pen, but selling and getting taxed, it makes the difference alot smaller (altho, technically still worth), so just a bit of bad rng and you might lose abit.
@jaxzianАй бұрын
@BiceptimusPrime k that was what i was thinking, so imma just convert them. And ill melt my two jetina for the others and just go base to pen/oct.
@nerfwizardwhen9195Ай бұрын
BIG W for the NEW players and the Veterans, even BIGGER L for those inbetween with TET deboes. This whole thing feels like i wasted months converting from my old accs to TET deboes, just for them to go half the value overnight, i expect them to go min listed by the time this update hits. TET deboes should've exchanged to HEX, if we look at silver value, just like they done to PENs to NOV instead of oct. I feel scammed.
@hichemslimani3409Ай бұрын
Exactly bro feel the same and hate the game loss all motivation before that update was grinding 5-7 hours a day now I grind only 1h After this update release will decide if I keep waste time in this game
@morallycorruptmaleficentti11942 ай бұрын
Hell yeah...my pen vaha just gained some of its worth back LETSGO. Im going to miss the gamba though ngl A lot of my joy in the game came from hitting pen accessories and selling them. Since the market crashed its been a little less fun but has pushed me to grind stuff i didnt think id like and ended up making 200b in 3 weeks from grinding everyday like a mad man lol Im glad they included new players also in the new grind areas with 270ap bc i was worried only geared players like myself 780gs would be able to take advantage of it. I can definitely see these areas being contested like stars end back in the days which i loved btw.
@JtwasLuckАй бұрын
So I will have a use for this deboreka belt I got as a season enjoyer
@awesomelegend3569Ай бұрын
Do the new crystals break apon death?
@BiceptimusPrimeАй бұрын
No!
@runahrk2306Ай бұрын
nop
@Isco2209Ай бұрын
5 karazad 1 pen bde or 6 karazad for pve ap monkey wise?
@BiceptimusPrimeАй бұрын
Would depend on the enhancement level of the karazad, but eventually kara wins out cus it gets the 4ap crystal bonus. Havnt looked at the exact numbers yet and brackets so cant give the specific enhancement level on the earring to be better.
@Isco2209Ай бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime thanks bro ur the best
@Dreadspark_2 ай бұрын
The flying donkey too? 😢
@BiceptimusPrime2 ай бұрын
One day :(
@alhot112 ай бұрын
Finally TLDR I was waiting for this I joined at half of the stream couldn't understand anything and Got confused Thanks a lot Sonny 😀☺️👌🏼
@MrJML18Ай бұрын
what exactly is costing memory fragments? accessories dont consume mf right?
@BiceptimusPrimeАй бұрын
They are changing how accessories work with the Karazad. They will now work exactly like armors and weapons. No longer blowing up, and if you Cron they dont downgrade. They will also lose 20 Durability on fails, like weapons/armors, so you will need to repair them with mem frags.
@MrJML18Ай бұрын
@@BiceptimusPrime oooh, i was paying attention to the downgrade thing, but i was thinking "it will only consume MORE chrone stones" but okey, now i get it! Thanks! I got 500k mf in my storage, i guess ill wait til the price goes up to 5-7 miljon each :D
@runahrk2306Ай бұрын
@@MrJML18 max price for memes is 5M but they might not reach that price depending of your region
@NoProtect2 ай бұрын
-25 sheet ap is insane
@BiceptimusPrime2 ай бұрын
Well, if you put on a Cadry now instead of a PEN Debo, you lose 24 sheet for 20dp. With this its 25 sheet for 25dp. Its a better trade off. But yes, its a huge cost cus of the brackets.
@Flanktank22 ай бұрын
No tet debos listed on MP yesterday. Today multiple of each slot listed. 🤣
@rongyiliu52482 ай бұрын
Based on choice's chart. Either pen debo or from 0. Tet debo is dumb option
@hirotakasugi48912 ай бұрын
@@rongyiliu5248it’s most likely the people who were working on pen debo and haven’t succeeded yet so they posting it. I mean im sure there’s a few of them who were hoarding tet devos
@cain7925Ай бұрын
wrong move to buy tet debo
@CrasherrPM2 ай бұрын
Very good changes to the game, i heard A LOT of players that enjoyed the pen BS journey, Tri fallen god, and tilted and quited on debo rng fiesta, is just much more frustrating to click something with a 30b hammer that you need to grind 1 entire week to get, just to fail, i don't care if "matemathically speaking will be easier to get tet-pen debo than pen-oct karazard", is just better to have that dopamine of clicking and trying to progress every day instead of just playing the game grinding for months to buy something, or losing an entire week of farm everytime you try to enhance yourself if you fail
@CyberSyntek2 ай бұрын
"We just need the content". This is the big one. Haha. This stuff is all "fine" if there is a reason for having them. But the order of things has been insane. Remove most of the reason to grind for gear > add new harder gear??? > ... hopefully content. :D .. perhaps that should have been reverse order to lessen the blow.
@CyberneticArgumentCreatorАй бұрын
This would be awesome if there were still a reason to progress and play the game. Which there isn't, because they killed organic full gear PvP as a way to protect shared public resources like grind spots.
@ViciousVis2 ай бұрын
Super hyped. I have 4 pen debos and 2 jetinas (i be raw tappin). Gonna have full nov by end of day lmao
@DrSwazz2 ай бұрын
This is why uncapped is dead
@ViciousVis2 ай бұрын
@@DrSwazz because ppl have more gear than you and the ones at the bottom complain? I agree.
@zedecoАй бұрын
@@DrSwazz what is stopping you from going pvp on arsha?
@bobthebuilder3609Ай бұрын
Cuz literally noone play on that server?@@zedeco
@DrSwazzАй бұрын
@@ViciousVis Gear gap is widening for no reason. Gotta be intellectually challenged to not see the problem here 🤷♂
@quintyss1290Ай бұрын
I like it when PA fights for BDO dominance ^_^.
@BiceptimusPrimeАй бұрын
Competition is the best thing ever for us the consumers! :>
@cain7925Ай бұрын
good work son
@janmika4245Ай бұрын
We need a failstacking guide
@IKGAOPUMUILSLAANАй бұрын
What makes this update good? There's no actual content this matters for. I just have 5x TET Debo set and apparently exchanging these for PEN Karazad is a bad deal as well compared to enhancing from base... just great
@VtojeCАй бұрын
You can't even go to hard mode bosses effectively without pen debos or grind effectively on endgame spots. You'll never even try Doluns T2. If you think Karazad is a bad take you haven't even watched the video or you're delusional and too lazy to progress.
@hichemslimani3409Ай бұрын
Am in same boat I got discourage from this game it must be exchange atleast to hex due to cost they always make thing worse but maybe good lesson to leave game early before big waste later
@reaudimills7947Ай бұрын
Feels like an L for console players again... we don't have PEN accessories sitting around nor outfits sold on the market as much. You want outfits, you mainly have to open your walet and let PA have their way until you get tired.
@skitlers80592 ай бұрын
i am ready!
@modernlegend_gaming2 ай бұрын
The amount of high end fail stacks you will need from going from pen to nov per accessory is criminally high!!! vs using 1 250+ stack on a much higher chance to succeed that others used for there Pen debo thats going to be converted into nov seems total bs and a scam.... this feels like godyr vs Blackstar all over again i really dont know if converting ur tet debo is a good idea 4 200+ stacks per accessory thats 20 super high end fails stacks just for nov.... vs 6 that others used.... idk man 200 plus stacks are not easy or cheap to make id rather blow up tet debos and skip this trap
@VtojeCАй бұрын
Are you stupid or something?
@YourKrazyKingАй бұрын
W
@KINGhotaru112 ай бұрын
Ayee let's go
@Avoidthevoidx2 ай бұрын
PA: Does not do shit. Doomers: G a M e D e D ! ! PA: Does something good for once. Doomers: W h A t I s T h I s F o R ?
@Jenisiz72 ай бұрын
Doomers know what it's for, Cron sales.
@Avoidthevoidx2 ай бұрын
@@Jenisiz7 it's not called "cron desert" for nothing
@Jenisiz72 ай бұрын
@@Avoidthevoidx 100%, if they really wanted to fix things for a better direction, would've made it possible to "upgrade" pen yellows outside of debos. So you grind and collect mats to turn an Ogre ring in to a DeadGod Ogre Ring, with comparable, but different stats then debo. Diff effect to allow diversity. Instead you now gotta enhance yellows just to melt...for other accessories. Just a fuck ton of crons needed now... Edit: Like Fake said, PA first Player Second. Instead of saying what's best for the health of the game, PA said how can we trick ppl in to spending more money under the guise we're listening to feedback...
@Avoidthevoidx2 ай бұрын
@@Jenisiz7 yes absolutely, debo accessories really killed progression. everyone knows this whether you're on PA side or the "Doomers" debo accessories are already the best (AP wise) and the set effect is just the nail in the coffin. Even so i still want to love BDO, so im hoping that these new karazad with their modifiable addons will answer for the lack of build diversity. but to be honest. it's already looking quite costly.
@hichemslimani3409Ай бұрын
That’s not fair it’s must be tet debo > hex karazad due to current price tet debo (some cost them 50b+ on enhancing it) it’s time to leave game at first lose before losing more after 1years or 2years of waste times PA don’t respect your times and it’s time to enjoy your fking life
@bobthebuilder3609Ай бұрын
HUUUGE now i can grind 0.6 percent FASTER THAN BEFORE huuuuuge change
@m_sedziwojАй бұрын
best thing is that they do not downgrade with crons. I think they should not downgrade without crons, but too much to ask. But it would be much better game, if enhancing would not put you back in your power.
@0.7pАй бұрын
More costume preorders that never fill and vendor crons. EVEN MORE CIRCLES WOOOOOO
@OriginalHDMIАй бұрын
Hahahahaha. Bro hyped up for cron grind. Get the gear for literally no content. 😂
@dc0he11Ай бұрын
Brainlet glue eating pve players just want dopamine hits from hitting a target dummy. Sad they found this mmo instead of a Chinese mmo where u do exactly that. 20k to 9k players in 1 months XD pvp is for sure a minority in this game!
@cttc132Ай бұрын
Too me they need to come out gear set and more bulit In the game new thing too do also new gear set for accessories and stop putting same accessories in the game we already have in the game makes new content to makes gs and pvp content too
@zupremo91412 ай бұрын
This update should have been after a good big update, like a huge class rework or a well received huge PVP balancing content. It feels like they are just trying to milk the game before it dies to me, this is a really bad move for PA.
@квхтне2 ай бұрын
no
@zupremo91412 ай бұрын
@@квхтне I personally like the update, but this is the worst time for them to farm costume cron money.
@cain7925Ай бұрын
must be blue followers 😂😂
@квхтнеАй бұрын
@@zupremo9141 the game is actually balanced. They need to fix the evasión builds, because after all this changes the unique viable tank are the shield classes. With that ando some minor corrections theres no need to change nothing because they can ruin it all. Demostraited in allmost cases.
@квхтнеАй бұрын
@@zupremo9141 btw yo hablo español, espero haberme expresado bien 🗿
@sniiper30Ай бұрын
LoL
@jpacampara21Ай бұрын
going to force everyone now to buy crons and gamble uninstalled
@scolamiero282 ай бұрын
earrings are about to be a 1T silver sink for 1 AP 🤣🤣🤣
@Seroskill36Ай бұрын
This change is a horrible cash grab and nothing more. U don’t need gear in an game with no PvP and capped PvE. Another cron sink is insane. There just milking the game anymore
@Seriksy2 ай бұрын
This is good and all, but the gear doesn't matter. That's what PA don't understand. There is no fun getting better gear just to run around the same circle a tad faster
@ciktore35142 ай бұрын
well bdo isnt for you then lets be real.
@The412Devil2 ай бұрын
Been the same game for 7 years
@Seriksy2 ай бұрын
@@ciktore3514 I've been playing since 2017. A lot of things have improved, but I miss having gear options. It was fun grinding when I could swap over to a higher spot to get other things once my gear got better. Elvia Atoraxxion etc. Putting in the hours meant something. Now it doesn't anymore, because there is so little worthwhile pve content to do
@yotsuyu95242 ай бұрын
They just added content for 330+ AP (Hard mode bosses) along with 2 750GS grindzones. When they add even higher requirements in Everfrost or Demon Lands, you will still be here crying "buut geear didn't metter back then".. What you people don't understand is that not everyone joined this game with the intention to farm gearlet noobs who can't fight back.
@rongyiliu52482 ай бұрын
Sorry, adding grinding zone? Did I miss anything? You call recycled dehkia new grinding zone? Lmao@@yotsuyu9524
@gsb90832 ай бұрын
getting all this gear for what? no more single sided decs, cant hunt people, no node wars. this game has became pointless now. and iv played for 7 years
@KINGhotaru112 ай бұрын
They are creating content, let them cook 😅, and they put out a dev stream recently apologizing n laying out future plans
@ExiledVessel2 ай бұрын
90% of the game has always been pve and enhancing. They don't make money off of pvp.
@nicolasflores47862 ай бұрын
Go play fornite kid. This Game is for grinders
@TTV_FlashStep2 ай бұрын
@@nicolasflores4786you sound ridiculous lmao then what are you even grinding for
@akaJAMILA2 ай бұрын
More gear to afk in BA with
@jameschester4242Ай бұрын
Game is trash doesn't matter it's a dead game
@VtojeCАй бұрын
Then don't play. Nobody will miss players like you.
@DiabloVbdoАй бұрын
Let this game die
@AllexiosАй бұрын
So Karazad Accessories Before of sove sub weapon Wtf :/ So much rush For things , they dont know what they doing ... Pls BDO Players Log in To the game kekw... "Come back To the Game Players "
@AbradolfLincler2 ай бұрын
hmmm what a mess.. basically if you were op before.. now you're... twice as busted xD just free ap all around if you're already PEN everything... and if you're not .. lmao you exist? hf everyone
@KINGhotaru112 ай бұрын
Ur hard work isn't being negated and rewarded, and allowing new players to reach there easily is the whole point. Would u rather they scrub all the work and time people put in their gear n allow everyone to get BiS gear? If things are given freely or easily, people don't work for it.. 😅
@schonfeld5158Ай бұрын
@@KINGhotaru11 i think what he meant is that people on full pen debo are getting upgraded to IX which gives them 7 more ap so if u were 355 ap u're turning 362ap for free while anyone below stays the same
@cain7925Ай бұрын
just say u want free stuff 😂😂
@schonfeld5158Ай бұрын
@@cain7925 haha who doesn't
@janeway7953Ай бұрын
You need to remember the cost and chance at success is not as good as it will be after the changes ,,,,,and it's also not fair to greatly disadvantage people who spent months and months to get V debo. We had them blow up on fail, difficulty getting bases, the astronomical cost and hungers to get the higher fail stacks needed, no +1 gained on the fail stack on failure, we had degradation backwards on failure even after paying to cron and let's not talk about the insane cron amounts needed. Our progress was grind a week for hours and hours each day and then attempt and fail and lose it all. PLUS no anvil for guaranteed success. I think it's entitled tbh to disregard the pain and cost of all that because you feel you are missing out on something you never even had to earn. Its took me over a year of grinding to get V debo. It wont cost others that however after these changes come through. And that's a GREAT change because i wouldn't wish what I went through on anyone
@ExiledVessel2 ай бұрын
Accessory crystals means more crystal slots required means more pearl shop. No thanks, put the crystal in the accessory, not a tab you profit from. Pvpers with dr, evasion and accuracy builds = $.
@zedecoАй бұрын
the slots are available when you equip the accessories, pearl shop is not involved
@cain7925Ай бұрын
noob
@XTGAMEZ009Ай бұрын
Oh no I can't read...
@ExiledVesselАй бұрын
@@zedeco Crystal slots are also available when you reform the hearts on weapons, where do the crystals you put in those slots go? it's the crystal inventory screen. Unless it doesn't work like all the other crystals then keep it out of the crystal screen to avoid misunderstanding on a game with p2w in that inventory.
@krispykrreme2 ай бұрын
I personally quit but I respect your dedication sir 🫡 keep doing what you love. ❤️