Karen Read Trial Day 16 Summary

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Emily D. Baker Quick Bits

Emily D. Baker Quick Bits

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@Steve-YT383
@Steve-YT383 4 ай бұрын
Runkle's babysitting us this morning. See you this afternoon!!
@SaltyOwlAlmanac
@SaltyOwlAlmanac 4 ай бұрын
The prosecution spending this much of their case cleaning up bad facts for all of the potential witnesses feels so frustrating.
@Always_Thinking
@Always_Thinking 4 ай бұрын
It feels like almost every prosecution witness has turned into a witness for the defense 🤔🤔
@DyslecticAttack
@DyslecticAttack 4 ай бұрын
At this point they've spend more time defending the Albert family than actually proving matters concerning John's death. And they haven't even done a great job at that....
@astrialindah2773
@astrialindah2773 4 ай бұрын
I think it's because he has so little actual evidence against Karen .. he knows the defense is pointing fingers at these others and so he's busy scrambling trying to help them cover their BS and their behinds🤣🤣 if the defense can show that there's no way their client did this but that these others were involved the jury will have to let Karen be not guilty! And this is exactly what the prosecution is fighting against.
@Steve-YT383
@Steve-YT383 4 ай бұрын
The Babysitter with benefits comment kinda makes me understand why Karen would react that way in Aruba.
@barbaral743
@barbaral743 4 ай бұрын
Lost track of how old JO's kids are. Was KR watching them while JO was getting hammered until 3 am? Edited to add: I was talking about the Aruba incident, not the night Officer O'Keefe died.
@DyslecticAttack
@DyslecticAttack 4 ай бұрын
​@@barbaral743 no, she wasn't supposed to stay in Canton that night according to the defense counsel. And the boy was at a friends house, and the girl was home. The girl also iirc is an early teen.
@mxnjones
@mxnjones 4 ай бұрын
@@DyslecticAttackI think the girl was 12 or 13 at the time. Kind of young to be left home alone overnight, maybe?
@spod414
@spod414 4 ай бұрын
@@barbaral743getting hammered until 3am in Aruba?.. Yes!
@spod414
@spod414 4 ай бұрын
The niece wouldn't have been left alone overnight on the fateful evening, KR went to the house after she dropped OJO at the "house party" which I believe wasn't expected to go on all night so he would have returned to his own house himself too .. again, the niece wouldn't have been left by herself overnight.
@JB-hp4dx
@JB-hp4dx 4 ай бұрын
Another good recap. It disturbs me how often people will bring up a couples arguments, inferring they had a bad relationship. Occasional arguments are part of a normal relationship.
@lilolmecj
@lilolmecj 4 ай бұрын
Every couple does, but I have never screamed across a hotel lobby at my husband or boyfriend. These people are very dramatic! I think these two families went out of their way to prove to Karen that she was an outsider. I experienced that when I met my husband. It took thirty five years to feel accepted into that group! But they were a lot nicer overall. Eda Sullivan, I’m not sure about that girl.
@cindz4618
@cindz4618 4 ай бұрын
These people are supposed to be adults and yet the gossip and backstabbing is 10x worse than any teenager. Toxic. Im waiting for the experts...
@jediping
@jediping 4 ай бұрын
So was their drinking!
@francescawilliams8177
@francescawilliams8177 4 ай бұрын
I don’t have friends like this and I’d be embarrassed if I did. Too old for that rubbish
@BlackStump172
@BlackStump172 4 ай бұрын
@@francescawilliams8177 Same here as my friends are decent , caring people who do not booze and sleep around .
@900108Chale
@900108Chale 4 ай бұрын
There is a saying in Mexico: Small town? Huge Gossip! (Meaning more like quarrels). Classic small town or close community attitude where even smaller groups have no other hobbies than observe and criticize their neighbors, families and friends. Betcha whatever this Group has even bigger issues with another group in that hood/town/community. Which may be the ones Colin was sending h ok a threats to. That’s how it goes.
@jediping
@jediping 4 ай бұрын
@@900108Chale Except the people Colin was beefing with were from another town. Also I still soooo disagree with calling Canton a small town. My brother lives in a small town of 600ish people. He would laugh at anybody calling Canton a small town. Yes, there are connections, largely around having children the same age. The defense is making a lot out of the fact that most of the people together that evening knew each other, even though of course they did, that’s how they all got invited. Yes, there are other connections, and Proctor should NEVER have been the one to investigate this case (or any other one IMO based on how badly he handled this one) but I wish people would stop with the “small town” stuff. ONE of the EMTs had a connection to the family, and she’s not the only one that heard KR say something about hitting JO. Again, there’s doubt here, but I find the term “small town” so misleading that I think it is raising doubt about stuff that it shouldn’t.
@littleirishgirl
@littleirishgirl 4 ай бұрын
Glorified babysitter was disgusting....said EVERYTHING about them...not Karen...jealous much??? Thanks EDB!!🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
@jediping
@jediping 4 ай бұрын
And Karen wasn’t jealous of his relationships with Laura and Kerri and Jen and … ? And if John did truly see her that way, as reported by a close friend, would that not piss Karen off? I get that it’s clear there’s no love lost here. It could be as you seem to think, that these were all a bunch of jealous hags all out to get John for themselves, even if they were all married or in other relationships. But it could also be that they felt Karen wasn’t good for John and didn’t warm to her because of that. Women aren’t all walking balls of jealousy and possessiveness. Some are, sure. But my sis, for example, has no problem with her husband not only maintaining friendships with other women but even giving one of them some of their money to help her through a rough patch. In the case of Karen and alll these other women, I’m more inclined to believe the majority than the minority. But I don’t think we have proof enough either way.
@francescawilliams8177
@francescawilliams8177 4 ай бұрын
It would also mean Karen was good with the children hence if John didn’t love her he kept her. They said she was aweful.
@kevinshort2230
@kevinshort2230 4 ай бұрын
We are still in the prosecutions phase of the case, and so far I don't see how there is not reasonable doubt in this case.
@Caroline.722
@Caroline.722 4 ай бұрын
Seems like Jen Mc has clamped down on John’s family - I’m sure she has been in their ear this whole time. I’m curious if they are starting to doubt what a “good friend” the McCabes were to John. Just like Jen attached herself to Carrie after John was found.
@marnis7415
@marnis7415 4 ай бұрын
My new favorite term: “…amorous butt dial…”
@rikkilleen3169
@rikkilleen3169 4 ай бұрын
It's why I keep my phone on vibrate.
@mxnjones
@mxnjones 4 ай бұрын
I missed a good chunk of day 16; this day was spicy! It reinforces my ideas that Jen McCabe is a mean girl and these folks were hella clique-y. Jen’s testimony was turning this into the Real Housewives of Canton! 🤦🏾 Keri Roberts’ testimony was raw and real and made things make so much more sense to me. I empathize with the Sullivan sisters a lot! I think I would have responded similarly to Marietta in such an encounter with Karen! Unrelated, hearing the name Marietta (the name of the younger Sullivan sister) so many times makes me smile. She shares a first name with one of my favorite professors from undergrad, who helped me through some rough times back then and is still one of my favorite humans now. I think I’ll give her a call soon. 😀
@pjhaze
@pjhaze 4 ай бұрын
She thinks someone writing about her online is harassment. People protesting at the courthouse with a sign saying “hos long until justice “ is not harassment. Sorry.
@astrialindah2773
@astrialindah2773 4 ай бұрын
Did people really do that outside the court? 🤣🤣🤣
@obish4476
@obish4476 4 ай бұрын
no doubt she’s being harassed. but her being harassed was not the issue at hand in THIS trial. this is about the deceased victim. it was disrespectful as hell of her to make it about her when someone is dead
@BlackStump172
@BlackStump172 4 ай бұрын
@@astrialindah2773 Oh yes they did and do .
@spod414
@spod414 4 ай бұрын
@@obish4476 she certainly revealed her true character/personality at that point then didn't she?! 🤭.. The alleged harassment is due to her and her family's suspicious behaviour and involvement in the death of a Boston police officer! 🤷🏽... I believe that if they weren't involved then they wouldn't feel the need to tell numerous lies and delete information from their phones, or get rid of their phones completely 🤷🏽 🤥🤥🤥 That in itself is fishy 🤔
@obish4476
@obish4476 4 ай бұрын
@@spod414 i personally don’t care why she and her family are being harassed - i don’t think there should be harassment at all. i also think a lot of it is fishy. i want to hear phone data experts testify. right now i have a lot of reasonable doubt, and we haven’t even made it to the defense case in chief
@accentcolour
@accentcolour 4 ай бұрын
I felt so bad for KR when everyone was insinuating that she was being used. While these people were happy to smile in her face all throughout her relationship with John. I keep asking why are we here?
@spod414
@spod414 4 ай бұрын
I must say...I've got to commend Karens self control during this trial because I know if it was me sat there, I don't think I'd be able to refrain from shouting You Lying Bastards ! 🤭 ...
@spod414
@spod414 4 ай бұрын
It shows just how classy she is .. in my opinion😊
@rebella8898
@rebella8898 4 ай бұрын
Same!!
@ruprect8858
@ruprect8858 4 ай бұрын
When things go on for years you learn self control. Behaving like that hurts you in the end so you learn to keep a lid on it, or just get plain tuckered out.
@Somero5115
@Somero5115 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. When people have lived under harsh conditions they aren’t gonna suddenly snap right when people are on their side. If anything that may cause a breakdown of happy/relief crying cause one is now being seen and heard
@francescawilliams8177
@francescawilliams8177 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be able to hide my facial expressions either .
@starrywizdom
@starrywizdom 4 ай бұрын
This is like a freaking soap opera. I keep reminding myself that John O'Keefe is a real guy, apparently a kind, devoted & responsible guy, & now he's dead. SMH.
@stellaallbright4750
@stellaallbright4750 4 ай бұрын
After hearing Carey Roberts testimony, it's not surprising KR couldn't remember what happened after the bar, Jen was gaslighting the shite out of her, early in the morning, as she was going through immense trauma!! 💔
@littleirishgirl
@littleirishgirl 4 ай бұрын
hos long til federal indictments??? 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
@georgieeve2026
@georgieeve2026 4 ай бұрын
😂
@spod414
@spod414 4 ай бұрын
8:27 i wonder if Carries attitude towards Karen in the court room has anything to do with Jen McCabe and all that she has been chatting about since it happened 🤷🏽.. JM might have poisoned Carrie against KR with all the rumours 🤔
@heatheraulen9867
@heatheraulen9867 4 ай бұрын
Poor John. He was surrounded by loss. 😢
@goosejail
@goosejail 4 ай бұрын
He really seemed like a good guy. It's a shame he got mixed up with the wrong people. He and his family deserve better than this investigation.
@Daniel_Capital
@Daniel_Capital 4 ай бұрын
John didn’t just happen to be around “the wrong people.” I know people who worked with him, he was every bit the equal of those involved. That’s not to in any way insinuate he deserved to die, his passing was tragic and sad but believe me, he was far from an angel. And the people around him was no accident
@angyeliz
@angyeliz 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the quick bits trial updates as being at work it’s hard for me to do a long live.
@AmberGraves80
@AmberGraves80 4 ай бұрын
Lord, this is like Mean Girls meets Law & Crime. The one thing I am able to parce from this is John was a really good person about I am sad that the world lost someone like him.
@UrsulaPowers
@UrsulaPowers 4 ай бұрын
Nailed the description!
@astrialindah2773
@astrialindah2773 4 ай бұрын
It sounds like he was a bit of a player and didn't treat his girlfriends that well 🧐
@tekarock
@tekarock 4 ай бұрын
I only watch you Emily about this case. You are just the best!! Thanks for your great work! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@JustSomeDude2161
@JustSomeDude2161 4 ай бұрын
Ian Runkle is filling in this morning. Check him out!
@cleopatra444
@cleopatra444 4 ай бұрын
⁠looks like im subbed to Runkle because y all recommended him , but i never get his notiffications 😩 im more likely to watch stuff if i get the notiffications , and ihave them on for his channel ! 👀 who knows! i ll check him out this morning til Emily takes over 👍🏼 thanks!
@JillsinTorry
@JillsinTorry 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this but I'm going to have to wait for replay tonight. Watching from Aberdeen, Scotland so I'm still working. 😢
@Creature_of_Knight
@Creature_of_Knight 4 ай бұрын
When I owned a flip phone, butt dials did occasionally happen. However, years back, eventually my family and I all switched to touch screen phones. I genuinely cannot remember a Single butt dial happening after we made that switch. It just doesn't make any sense!!!
@jediping
@jediping 4 ай бұрын
I get them from my mom periodically, because she doesn’t always lock the screen before putting the phone in her purse. But not multiple times in a row. I do wonder if it could be Siri-triggered calls, but I assume that that would be clear at least in Jen McCabe’s case on the the extraction. One of my frustrations with things is that there is plenty of legit doubt in this case, but when the defense tried to make much out of nothing (like the horsing around at the bar) it makes me question how big a deal the other things really are.
@albatros386
@albatros386 4 ай бұрын
I butt dial calls numerous times sometimes when my phone is in the pocket and my dad butt dials to me all the time. Whats suspicious is how many butt dials from several ppl we have on the same day I believe?
@jediping
@jediping 4 ай бұрын
@@albatros386 Yeah, as Emily said, it's not just one instance, or even one person doing it multiple times, but two people claiming butt dials, Bryan Albert's phone being "upgraded" right before he was going to be told to preserve it, stuff like that. One instance of something like that would have me thinking "Eh, just a weird coincidence," but the more there is, the more it adds up to reasonable doubt, even if I don't necessarily buy into some sort of conspiracy.
@albatros386
@albatros386 4 ай бұрын
@@jediping true, and the fact that it is in fact a very tight close knit community, involving a very prominent police officer, member of local “elite” squad. Why not just to admit there were phone calls to John O Keefe from Jen’s phone? Say smth about deleted search, maybe her phone was available for other ppl to use at that time. The rejection hurts more than
@justforcomments9524
@justforcomments9524 4 ай бұрын
Brian and Brian's phones out there just calling each other with no human interference! Rise of the Machines!
@goosejail
@goosejail 4 ай бұрын
If I were Jen & I had seen them pull up at 34 Fairview & then leave without coming in, I would be asking Karen where she and John went *after they left. Questions that would've made sense to ask: Where did you go after the Waterfall? What do you remember after you got home? Did you guys have a fight? Is it possible he went to a friend's house after you fell asleep? Is his car there? Did he walk to a friend's house to cool down & then maybe fall asleep there? It makes no sense that Jen would insist on going to 34 Fairview when, by her own testimony, she never saw John get out of the car or enter the house. So, why would he be there? And for the record, I fully believe Kerry's version that Jen was the one who put going to 34 Fairview out there and Karen, in her panic, latched onto that. Kerry even said they *both were insisting on going there but Kerry made them go to John's house first to check there.
@saramcdonalds427
@saramcdonalds427 4 ай бұрын
THIS. WENCH DROPPED JOHN OFF AT THAT HOUSE AND MOST LIKELY HAD RELATIONS WITH ANOTHER GUY OR LADY THATS WHY JOHN WAS GOING TO WRITE HER OFF SHE AINT NOTHING BUT A LIAR AND A CHEATER DROP HIM OFF SO SHE CANT GET BACK IN THE STREETS YOU REALLY THINK SHE WENT STRAIGHT HOME GOT IN THE BED
@VioletPaynekiller
@VioletPaynekiller 4 ай бұрын
i was so lost with no trial yesterday hahaha
@Dr3adPir8Rbrt5
@Dr3adPir8Rbrt5 4 ай бұрын
I think the cross of the sisters was important when the defense pointed out that within days of JO’s death, Proctor had tracked down the sisters for an interview… 🤔
@jediping
@jediping 4 ай бұрын
I mean, there’s every chance Kaylee told them about the argument, if not John’s brother and/or sister-in-law. “Has he had any arguments recently?” would be a common question to ask of those who knew the victim.
@LGraham-uj3eb
@LGraham-uj3eb 4 ай бұрын
That felt more important than their actual testamony.
@spod414
@spod414 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Emily and the Baker Team/Mods 💕 Really appreciate your hard work! 😊
@karenbourque3492
@karenbourque3492 4 ай бұрын
I love the way you laid out everyone testimony, love your channel 💖.
@TeresaAnnAskew
@TeresaAnnAskew 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Emily 💜for covering Karen Reeds case much appreciated free Karen Read💞💞
@SweetStephee
@SweetStephee 4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ So ready for today. But I'm really ready for ALL the tea. I'm so confused now...need all the dots to connect 😂
@how_about_naw
@how_about_naw 4 ай бұрын
"Amorous butt dial" 🤣
@l-train7876
@l-train7876 4 ай бұрын
Who was claiming the amorous butt-dial? I don’t remember.
@reneewood8221
@reneewood8221 4 ай бұрын
It was very easy to listen to kerry roberts' testimony. It made the mccabes testimony look like story time😂. Whatever cover up might exist(im still so on the fence and flip flop daily) kerry had nothing to do with it.
@astrialindah2773
@astrialindah2773 4 ай бұрын
The girl is very good at fooling people...🙄
@SJ101x
@SJ101x 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for editing up these recaps. I just don't have enough time to watch the lives at the moment. Also 100% reasonable doubt...
@doninis1354
@doninis1354 4 ай бұрын
I am stil waiting for the As of CW ... and I agree totaly one butt dial or coincedence would not make me questioning the hole story...but the nombers and weard answering is odd and makes me think there is another story to it.
@phylliskelly7910
@phylliskelly7910 4 ай бұрын
Keeping up with some lives when I can and catch up with the Replay Crew. So much fuckery going on in MA. Love your channel Emily thanks for your commentary, community & cursey words 💚 ☘️🇮🇪
@stephaniemowrey5257
@stephaniemowrey5257 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update Emily 💜
@courtneycarpenter9621
@courtneycarpenter9621 4 ай бұрын
Emily, what is your take on the strategy behind getting all of this personal testimony in before they put experts (cell phone, coroner) on the stand? Why doesn’t the prosecution want the more technical stuff in first so they can tie other witness testimony to that later on? If I were a juror, I would have a hard time knowing what to think about what any of these people say without that background evidence.
@sherylrae
@sherylrae 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. 💜
@brendarobson322
@brendarobson322 4 ай бұрын
Of course she made thst Google search her hubby works in IT. She is a disgrace as a person thankyou so much ❤
@KVerstegen
@KVerstegen 4 ай бұрын
It's another spicy day ahead.
@christinegreen3974
@christinegreen3974 4 ай бұрын
This is a giant high school clique. John was sort-of in the clique but not family. Karen Reed was not part of the clique so she got the blame when something bad went down. It seems to me she was the only adult dealing with a bunch of teen mob want to bes IMO. I can't believe these people have children and high level jobs. I think Karen Reed's demeanor in this trial mirrors her demeanor in all of this in general.
@dramallama6811
@dramallama6811 4 ай бұрын
Can we just hot tub time machine to Bri Bri’s Cross Examination? I'm not sure I can sit through “”what if any” Lolly calls a direct exam 😖
@nicoleloves9483
@nicoleloves9483 4 ай бұрын
I love the quick bits! I always fall asleep before the stream ends😂
@fleck36
@fleck36 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the summary 😊❤
@alithorstad6206
@alithorstad6206 4 ай бұрын
First like!! It's gonna be a great day. Thanks Emily and crew for all you do.
@spearshaker7974
@spearshaker7974 4 ай бұрын
Life after death gets a little weirder when u think about watching your own trail watching all your idiot friends try and cover their butts i imagine a lot of fist shaking.
@HappyNana436
@HappyNana436 4 ай бұрын
My sociopath meter is going off
@kandi6605
@kandi6605 4 ай бұрын
It seems to me, that the prosecution needs a reason why Ms Reed would run over Mr O'Keefe. Since everyone at the bar said they weren't fighting and seemed fine, they need to give a reason without proof there was a fight. So with the vacation incident happening just a short time ago where he "kissed" another woman (though that fight was also blown out of proportion), they are trying to imply that with Mrs Macabe giving directions using Bella's house as a landmark, that it caused a fight between Mr O'Keefe and Ms. Reed. Ms Reed then ran him over in a jealous rage. Obviously there is no witness to it, but that is what they want you to think. That is why it is mentioned a lot, and also why the Macabes kept saying they were wondering if they fought and thats why they left and didn't go in the house, and also why they testified that they used the same landmark, Bella's house, on the way to look for Mr O'Keefe. I believe both women in the car said it was mentioned about 2 exes, a dance instructor and Bella's mom, though Mrs. Roberts said the dance instructor was like 10 years ago. Mrs Macabe said Ms Reed got upset at the mention of Bella's mom and said something about did he sleep with her or go to her house. I can't remember exactly. I just feel they are hoping the jury will make that logical leap because to have intent to commit the action of unaliving a person the why is important. Juries also like to have a why, but no one can testify to a fight on that night. So why would she intentionally commit the act if they were having a good time?
@spod414
@spod414 4 ай бұрын
Matt said he was the one told Jen to tell Karen that she was at the house party when Karen rang first thing in the morning when Matt said he also said to tell her shut up else she'll wake the neighbours
@maireadeire5529
@maireadeire5529 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for today's Fireworks 🎉 Watching from Ireland 🇮🇪
@clmoore1492
@clmoore1492 4 ай бұрын
As much as I love watching trial with you I'm not going to wait until 230p when trial starts at 9am on the BIGGEST day of testimony in this case to watch with you. Sorry about your schedule but today is too important.
@wonder5487
@wonder5487 4 ай бұрын
I'm watching Runkle of the Bailey, He's streaming until EDB is back
@lollylolly8186
@lollylolly8186 4 ай бұрын
Runkle of the Bailey is taking over til EDB gets online.
@beverleymoore8
@beverleymoore8 4 ай бұрын
What about what Higgins says regarding the snow plow? He kept talking about the plow for no reason… He could have very easily knocked over John with the plow, moved him, and taken off without many people knowing.
@Carol-nz1ld
@Carol-nz1ld 4 ай бұрын
Do you think Carrie saw JMs testimony after she was released? Saw jm throwing her under the bus?
@goosejail
@goosejail 4 ай бұрын
I would bet she's at least heard about it by now.
@l-train7876
@l-train7876 4 ай бұрын
Of course she’s seen it.
@nicoleblad1163
@nicoleblad1163 4 ай бұрын
Are there any videos of John actually leaving the bar and who he left with???
@allyfox5900
@allyfox5900 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how johns family feel about the police investigation now?
@Kevin-if6vp
@Kevin-if6vp 4 ай бұрын
Cant believe 500 butt dials so cant believe anyone harrassed them
@donna.207
@donna.207 4 ай бұрын
There should have been a death claim agst the Albert's HOwner's Insurance since he died on their property. (Lawyer and former pi adjuster)
@saraw112
@saraw112 4 ай бұрын
I’m convinced there is reasonable doubt because of Jenny mccabe’s google search and the calls around that time. Definitely fishy behavior and Karen should be acquitted.
@MrShnier
@MrShnier 4 ай бұрын
I can see what the prosecution was trying to do on day 16. Paint the picture that Karen is a control freak, paranoid about every girl around John and that (my speculation) their hypothesis is, is that Karen killed John because maybe he wanted to break up with her, she caught him cheating when they were all drinking. I just don't really understand the timeline still and why Karen left the bar and then went to Johns house if she was going to go home anyway?
@jills9373
@jills9373 4 ай бұрын
She spent a lot of time there, and his niece was too young to be left alone overnight.
@MrShnier
@MrShnier 4 ай бұрын
@@jills9373 But then why did she drive to the Alberts? It still doesn't explain it
@saramcdonalds427
@saramcdonalds427 4 ай бұрын
NO HE CAUGHT HER CHEATING AND I bet SHE WENT AN CHEATED THAT SAME NIGHT SHE KILLED HIM IM SICK GOING HOME YEAH RIGHT GOING SOMEWHERE LAY UP IN WHEN THEY FIND HER SIDE DUDE OR LADY THE CASE WILL BE SOLVED THEY NEVER SAY NOTHING ABOUT THAT SIDE OF THE CASE THE OTHER MEN OR Maybe WOMEN KAREN READ IS GAY
@jills9373
@jills9373 4 ай бұрын
@MrShnier bc he wanted to go over there and party more. All were drunk. I think a fight broke out, and John fell and hit his head. Maybe they could've saved, but but instead threw him out like trash to die and framed the Canton outsider for it
@neryskkiran1820
@neryskkiran1820 4 ай бұрын
@@saramcdonalds427 You ARE jen McCabe, right?
@jillprince9647
@jillprince9647 4 ай бұрын
I find it all suspect. I do not trust anyone in this group of friends.
@JustMe-sj2oe
@JustMe-sj2oe 4 ай бұрын
Just a thought - was Jen's sister questioned if she saw John's body when she went into the house house that morning and/or if Jen saw the body when she went out to see Karen the next morning? Please correct me if I am wrong?
@debshipman4697
@debshipman4697 4 ай бұрын
Excessive Alcohol makes some people say & do some really stupid things.
@TheHighlandMedium
@TheHighlandMedium 4 ай бұрын
Will be waiting for the GOAT 💜
@andiesmonster
@andiesmonster 4 ай бұрын
Here from the app!
@philcapernaros7815
@philcapernaros7815 4 ай бұрын
I'm curious, is there any independant devidence that Read dropped him off at Fairview that night? We have eyewitness testimony from people in the house, most of whome only reference a black SUV, but Read didn't remember it initially. Is it possible that she did leave him at the Waterfall?
@ruprect8858
@ruprect8858 4 ай бұрын
I am confused as to why she was sms’ing him if she didn’t know who it was.
@notme2day
@notme2day 4 ай бұрын
When alcohol is on board, emotion tend to run really high. People will say things and or do things they don't really mean. When they sober up, many are horrified over their actions the next day, apologize and try to make amends. At least, that's what most responsible adults tend to do. Sometimes people only overindulge on vacation or at a special party. Doesn't mean they get sloppy all the time.
@janeeyre5909
@janeeyre5909 4 ай бұрын
Almost too confusing to recap, but you did a great job here Emily!
@zekrk504
@zekrk504 4 ай бұрын
Great bits Emily....prosecution has done so much that means nothing.....We'll see, Thanks Darlin'
@nickiabbott5060
@nickiabbott5060 4 ай бұрын
I will always feel sympathy for anyone who is harassed.....and, Yessss, Emily, I’m hearing you Now agreeing with this....(makes me feel smahhht ! ) (RI accent...is like half a Boston one....we/they don’t like to verbalize the letter “R”.....rather charming, I think ! (I’m from NY.....and love to notice local nuanced accents.....(like, nobody can ever do a real-sounding JFK.....ever did....and so Why not Start with a Bostonian actor ? Hint to casting directors....)
@Mindyobiz-fy7ef
@Mindyobiz-fy7ef 4 ай бұрын
Get more rest!!!
@angyeliz
@angyeliz 4 ай бұрын
Do you think defense’s staff scour KZbin for opinions to change or add to their defense questions or used in the closing statements? 🤔
@rebella8898
@rebella8898 4 ай бұрын
I think she is innocent. I hope she gets acquitted.
@GothBoyUK
@GothBoyUK 4 ай бұрын
The whole thing where the sister said "I've known John for years, he's like a brother" (I'm paraphrasing) initially made me say 'Girl, that means nothing - ever heard of Soon Yi?'. A lot of people have used the 'he's like a brother/father/family to me, I never would' defense before when someone is suspicious of a relationship - even I have. I'm not saying there was anything between the sister and John, just commenting on the 'defence' used. And yes, dear reader, I was tupping him on the sly. 😂
@itocanas2986
@itocanas2986 4 ай бұрын
Hey is today's live stream start later today?
@bettybudzinski6602
@bettybudzinski6602 4 ай бұрын
How police destroy phone for new phones not only one but alot
@wonder5487
@wonder5487 4 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if Karen talked to Jen before Carrie or vice versa on the phone that morning.
@jackeeB
@jackeeB 4 ай бұрын
JM is a nasty, nasty woman that, IMO is just out to stick it to KR. Everything about her makes my skin crawl. The last two witnesses were a waste of time when the best witness would've been the cell data expert. I'm sick of Lolly and his meandering. Bring the experts and let's get to the meat of the case.
@900108Chale
@900108Chale 4 ай бұрын
So then… did Karen even got to 34 Fairview? I’m starting to doubt that also now…
@daedalus6796
@daedalus6796 4 ай бұрын
Harassment is not cool. Some of the alleged stuff is horrifying. If anything, they only support the idea that "Karen Read must be guilty because so-and-so is harassing others and supports her." So good job there, I guess.
@jediping
@jediping 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it does nothing but make everything worse. Like, it makes me question are these witnesses hostile to the defense because they are lying or because they consider the defense to be an active part of the year of harassment they have been facing.
@Presumedhostile
@Presumedhostile 4 ай бұрын
Bring on Higgins!
@Jorge_Fimbres
@Jorge_Fimbres 4 ай бұрын
I’m on Karen side on this one. Based on the evidence so far.
@christinas.1827
@christinas.1827 4 ай бұрын
So far, on day 16, we know that dog has been rehomed. The house has been rehomed. The phone has been rehomed and the New Girl. Karen that came to town is Ben on the mean. Girls list in the high school is what we know so far. In my opinion, Karen Reid right now. As of it where it stands. I don't believe she did it.
@l-train7876
@l-train7876 4 ай бұрын
What?
@elizabethbrogna3565
@elizabethbrogna3565 4 ай бұрын
Hey Emily from Boston, Diet Pepsi. Nice weather.
@persia888
@persia888 4 ай бұрын
Even if Karen said I hit him x 3 it sounds like she would have said it as a distraught question rather than a confession. I think she is not guilty and will be found not guilty.
@LisaArcher-wq5mn
@LisaArcher-wq5mn 4 ай бұрын
Sure
@LelahWells
@LelahWells 4 ай бұрын
Hi!
@bri1188
@bri1188 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the prosecution is butchering this. Who ever killed the guys probably did it on accident. If it was Karen, it was not premeditated because as far as we know, she had no motive to kill him. Instead of going after her for accidentally hitting him, they made this huge mess because most of the witnesses are unlikeable and frankly some are lying. To me, it seems like the defense is doing a better job because of how unreliable and awful some of these witnesses are. it mostly likely was Karen, probably accidentally and she might not have even realized she did it. But man, Jen Mcabe seems so guilty. Like she has no motive but everything she does makes me feel like she’s guilty. That family is just so unlikable and unreliable that they make themselves look super guilty. Now if she really did google the how long can you live in the snow, that really changes things because it lends to the idea that she knew he was out there. And if she knew, why wouldn’t she call the police? Why wouldn’t she get help? But why would the Mcabe’s kill him?
@dawnryan8311
@dawnryan8311 4 ай бұрын
Hello chat....❤
@Lakelife67
@Lakelife67 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t the EMT say that Karen was saying “I hit him “
@UrsulaPowers
@UrsulaPowers 4 ай бұрын
Petty!
@50kittykat
@50kittykat 4 ай бұрын
I hope after, Karen gets a lot of therapy.
@rebeccaaustralia6448
@rebeccaaustralia6448 4 ай бұрын
McCabeast!
@robinwarren2024
@robinwarren2024 4 ай бұрын
With benefits...
@bettybudzinski6602
@bettybudzinski6602 4 ай бұрын
How judge hasn't thrown out case to save face of the courts and prosecutor's all in America care more about this case than all Trump's cases combined
@cor-z8m
@cor-z8m 4 ай бұрын
Why would she go back to get him if she “knew” she run him over?
@saramcdonalds427
@saramcdonalds427 4 ай бұрын
GOT TO PLAY IT OFF LIKE SHE KNEW SHE WASNT GOING STRAIGHT HOME TO GET IN THE BED THAT WAS JUST ANOTHER EXCUSE TO GET FROM UNDER HIM TO GO DO WHAT SHE REALLY WANT WITH WHO SHE WANT TO DO IT WITH
@trevorseath7267
@trevorseath7267 4 ай бұрын
Laura Sullivan and her child have suffered so much. And yet she was called by the prosecution to testify that John was annoyed and frustrated with his girlfriend on a vacation over a misunderstanding. Really? Nearly feels like harassment!
@williamp6800
@williamp6800 4 ай бұрын
It was her younger sister.
@TinaBommarito-kh5mi
@TinaBommarito-kh5mi 4 ай бұрын
💜💜💜
@noraoconnor1895
@noraoconnor1895 4 ай бұрын
If its true that karen reed asked herbto google that why did she want that unless that she knew when she hit him.!! Jen mccabe was there driving her car so it had to be karen reed.!!
@waldinabeltran582
@waldinabeltran582 4 ай бұрын
😢😢😢😢
@Dougn57
@Dougn57 4 ай бұрын
lol
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