Karl Marx

Chapter Twenty-seven from Book Three, Part Two of Bertrand Russell's "The History Of Western Philosophy" (1945).

[@whalercumming9911]

Even as a critic Russell still respects Marx and his impact on the world and though I find Marx too technical to be enjoyable I still notice when people criticize him without really knowing his work - and I'd say that's mostly all the time in this era of flatline brain function

[@BobDingus-bh3pd]

Well his philosophy validates the bloody collectivization of property without any scientific evidence. So he is still kind of a POS.

[@Maceta444]

If you want a comprehensive summary and/or introduction to Marxism you should read Thomas Sowell's book "Marxism: philosophy and economics". Best explaination of Marxism by a mile.

[@actualideas8078]

Sowell was a marxist (he just pretends to be a capitalist)

[@Mrchair-bk5ns]

@@actualideas8078 Wait. Thomas Sowell said he was a marxist until he started working in the government where he saw the government managers in his office working for their own interest instead of the people. Thus, he became disillusioned with marxism. Are you trolling? or Is he really pretending or still has a marxist heart in his work? Can you please elaborate? I am curious/

[@tedgrant2]

Socialism or fascism, to a wage earner may seem to be be better than a mixed economic system. When implemented by the state, however, they tend to lose their appeal for many people. Heavy police presence is required in order to suppress any radical opinions. And there is no point in having more that one political party.

[@tedgrant2]

Footnote:- I live in a quiet cul-de-sac and in the last 20 years only seen one police car.

[@actualideas8078]

Fascism is a mixed economy

[@danieljliverslxxxix1164]

Fascism is the exact polar opposite of Socialism.

[@danieljliverslxxxix1164]

@@actualideas8078 Fascism is capitalism's natural conclusion.

[@tedgrant2]

@@danieljliverslxxxix1164 But only in a dialectical sense.

[@kennethfoster3913]

I had to rewind and listen again when Russell complains that as a philosopher, Marx "is too practical" and overly focused on man as opposed to the universe. What a weird criticism. Why prefer centuries of circular debate over the existence of God to a useful theory of how society has, and is, progressing?

[@comradelupe6976]

@Pete Skepsis clearly you also haven't read much Marx... I thought it was very unfortunate that Russell didn't go into detail with marxist system. He does elsewhere, but never critically. What is the most unfortunate aspect is, I admire Russell in all other cases.

[@michaelcrum5831]

Paid agent.

[@comradelupe6976]

@@michaelcrum5831 I wish.

[@MatthewsPersonal]

@@michaelcrum5831 fucking sad that you think some random guy is a paid agent. I hope you've gotten help, mate.

[@kenmoretoast]

@@michaelcrum5831 You got me. I'm paid to comment on philosophy audiobooks.

[@hyperduality2838]

Marxism and the British Empire are both based upon the time dependent Hegelian dialectic, problem, reaction, solution. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis -- the generalized or time independent Hegelian dialectic. Hegel's cat:- Alive (thesis, being) is dual to not alive (anti-thesis, non being) -- Schrodinger's cat. Creation, synthesis or becoming is the result of the duality of the time independent Hegelian dialectic. God (thesis) is dual to Christ consciousness (anti-thesis) creates the holy spirit. Male (thesis) is dual to female (anti-thesis) creates or synthesizes children!

[@danieljliverslxxxix1164]

That's not how Hegelian dialectics work.

[@hyperduality2838]

@@danieljliverslxxxix1164 Enlighten me!

[@danieljliverslxxxix1164]

@@hyperduality2838 Thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, wasn’t developed by Hegel. Hegel’s concept of dialectics was that everything moves towards the same end goal, and what we think of as being “time” or history, is just the process which it moves through. Source: read Hegel.

[@hyperduality2838]

@@danieljliverslxxxix1164 Teleology. Immanuel Kant talks about teleology. You need to read Kant in order to understand Hegel. Teleological physics (syntropy) is dual to non-teleological physics (entropy). Teleology = target tracking. I am well aware that the time dependent Hegelian dialectic was developed by other people. Being is dual to non-being creates becoming -- Plato. Hegel et al. pinched it from Plato who got it from Socrates, the Socratic method or dialectic argument. Absolute truth is dual to relative truth -- Hume's fork. Absolute time (Galileo) is dual to relative time (Einstein) -- time duality. There are perfect or ideal states within physics:- The velocity of light is the same and equal for all observers, it conforms to principle of objective democracy -- a target or goal. Energy is duality, duality is energy. Teleology is not encouraged in physics departments, but philosophy confirms that teleology is very real. We remember the past and predict (syntropy) the future -- time duality. Space is dual to time -- Einstein. Synthetic a priori knowledge, knowledge is dual to according to Kant. Space/time is a "A priori" according to Kant. Would you like to expand on what you have said about Hegel?

[@danieljliverslxxxix1164]

@@hyperduality2838 What does any of this have to do with Marxism? You’re sound like a crazy person.

[@hyperduality2838]

Feudalism is dual to capitalism leads to or creates, synthesizes socialism! Thesis is dual to anti-thesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic.

[@danieljliverslxxxix1164]

Capitalism eventually leads back to feudalism as production becomes more and more streamlined, upward mobility becomes impossible for those not born to already well of families, and corporations that merge to form an oligarchical plutocracy.

[@hyperduality2838]

@@danieljliverslxxxix1164 Tyranny. "The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many" -- Anti-Spock. Concepts are dual to percepts -- the mind duality of Immanuel Kant. Randomness (entropy) is dual to order (syntropy, predictability). There is a 4th law of thermodynamics which you may not be aware of. Immanuel Kant had a "mind duality" and this has not been acknowledged by the scientific community, this means everyone has a thought or mind duality. The conservation of duality (energy) will be known as the 5th law of thermodynamics, energy is duality, duality is energy. Gravitation is equivalent or dual to acceleration -- Einstein's happiest thought, the principle of equivalence (duality). Energy is dual to mass -- Einstein. Dark energy is dual to dark matter. Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy, gravitational energy is dual. Apples fall to the ground because they are conserving duality. Action is dual to reaction -- Sir Isaac Newton. Space is dual to time -- Einstein. Electro is dual to magnetic -- Maxwell's equations. Positive charge is dual to negative charge -- electric fields. North poles are dual to south poles -- magnetic fields. Electro-magnetic energy is therefore dual -- waves are dual to particles -- quantum duality. There is a pattern of duality hardwired into the physics & philosophy and also mathematics. "Always two there are" -- Yoda.

[@danieljliverslxxxix1164]

@@hyperduality2838 You sound like an idiot.

[@hyperduality2838]

@@danieljliverslxxxix1164 I have just told you there is a 4th law of thermodynamics and you insult me! There is a time independent Hegelian dialectic!-- Duality.

[@danieljliverslxxxix1164]

@@hyperduality2838 I call you an idiot because you say idiotic things. If you want me to cease calling you an idiot then cease saying idiotic things. Hegelian dialectics encompasses time as expressed through history, i.e. causal relations. Maybe you should, I don’t know, read Hegel.