Can You REALLY Tell a $2000 Difference?! (Canon RF 50mm 1.8 vs 1.2)

[@brent.cowley]

For anyone who has some of the budget RF f1.8 primes, I think one of the key things is to shoot it at around f2.2-2.5 if you want to get better sharpness and contrast while still retaining a good amount of background separation. This is especially true when shooting against bright lights.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@2darki]

What if I use the prime with APSC? Do i just leave it at 1.8?

[@Tckt4life]

Totally agree as well as there is no this or envy greenish outline on a body thinking f2.5-3.5 gets rid of it for me

[@ernstgouws8099]

Agree. I rarely shoot on 1.8 or 2 as its too soft.

[@brent.cowley]

@@2darki I think you may still have issues with sharpness/contrast in certain situations. Overall you can still get some nice results though!

[@kolorbrown]

This is the content we're looking for, unbiased,, straight froward and honest. Thanks

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks!

[@andrewelder2739]

One other thought about the Nifty Fifty (RF 50mm f/1.8) is that it also solves the travel question you asked some weeks back. Not only is this MUCH less of an investment to worry about losing or dropping, but it's also MUCH lighter and more compact to carry around, but still gives you VASTLY better shots than you could take with your phone. The 35mm could also be a great solution, depending on your focal preference. Both are versatile and give great results and FANTASTIC value!

[@ZayasRaymond1]

I travel with the nifty fifty, the 1.2 is only for paid work. Taking no chances. Saw a few people lose their whole set ups recently.

[@jofromWI]

I’d sure rather replace 159 versus 2000. Travel with that 1.8

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@CarloPiana]

I've just bought the 1.8 second hand. Superb.

[@andrewelder2739]

@@CarloPiana it's a budget banger for sure!

[@jasonwrites9186]

As Katelyn pointed out - if you can't afford the fancy version of any lens...don't stress about it. You can certainly grow your business with a 1.8 or a 2.8 or even a kit lens, really. Don't go into debt buying gear. Work on being a better photographer, on how to create a sustainable business, how to appeal to your market, etc, etc, rather than the quick dopamine payoff of gear acquisition. I'm just entering year 3 as a wedding photographer, and while my business has grown quite a bit, I still pay cash for everything - well, I put it on my CC, but I pay it off in its entirety. ;) A nice rule to consider if you're not sure if you can afford a product is whether you can buy it twice; if you can't buy it twice, then it might be worth holding off so you're not riding the line all day, every day. Because you never know when something might suddenly break and you'll be glad you have some cash to help cover the unexpected costs of running a biz.

[@KatelynJames]

Great tips, thanks for sharing!

[@magiccarpetrider4594]

I’m a 45 yr corporate and advertising pro. Buy the best gear and raise your rates. You don’t want to be the cheap guy with inappropriate gear that hinders your work. Being a photographer is about making great images- success will follow. I only looked for work for the first 3 months of my career, the rest was repeat and referrals. If you’re always marketing, you aren’t putting the work first. If your work is low-light or available light, or you need the isolation of fast glass, you should buy fast glass-the right tool etc., and your tools shouldn’t hinder your vision. If someone is paying for your best, bring it. That said, the 1.8 version is a good lens at f4. The 1.2 lens is made to shoot at 1.2-2.0. At f4, buy either. I own both, and many 50mm for different rendering. I prefer to manual focus a Zeiss (or Leica) than any AF Canon. I’d recommend getting a used Milvus 1.4 and adapting- it’s optically better, lighter and ⅓ the cost on the used mkt.

[@goodlawyer1813]

The 1.8 will always get the job done. Having a red ring on your lens (L Series) just communicates that you like nice things but it doesn't make your portraits $2000 better. :-)

[@RexB96]

The RF glass from Canon is honestly so sharp and they have fantastic autofocus. I have the RF 35 f1.8 and the RF 85 F2 and paired with my R6, the results are often sharper than even some of their older EF L lenses. You really can't go wrong with RF glass, even on the budget end.

[@KatelynJames]

Love it!

[@four-kings]

because r6 only have 20mega pixel

[@renatocustodio1000]

It's true but the 35 is way sharper than the 50.

[@ming-artoflight2761]

@@four-kings😂 „only“…you can print big enough

[@giancarloarrobarodriguez5291]

I have a RP that doesn’t have Sensor Shift in body like your R6.. is that make much difference in the final shoot or could be same.

[@SoJesusChristMusic]

I own both and I’m glad someone finally compared the two…clear plastic vs L-Series Glass

[@xodius80]

L lenses do bring presence, I find it important because it makes my clients feel secure that my prices are justified just looking at the hardware, it might be shallow, but is very relevant

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@melissakeranen705]

The 1.8 was a huge upgrade from my kit lenses... and I am by NO means a professional photographer, even though I would love to be some day... But I have noticed that the 1.8 doesn't quite give the crispness that I yearn for, but it has been an excellent addition for me, and has really helped me feel more confident! Thank you for this comparison. I really appreciated it!

[@KatelynJames]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching and good luck on your photography journey!!

[@kellih4237]

So happy to listen to this video. I'm shooting with an R5 and the 50 mm 1.8 and have been so happy with the images I'm getting during family sessions. I can't afford the money for the 1.2 right now and my clients have been super happy with their images as well. This made my day!

[@KatelynJames]

As long as your clients are happy, that's all that matters! Glad to hear you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!

[@zambination11]

2:32 It's not all metal. It has a poly-carbonate body, a metal mount, and some metal parts inside 3:40 The EF version has also a metal mount Nice video. ☺

[@set3777]

3:40 The EF f1.8 STM version has also a metal mount. The older EF f1.8 "non-STM" version did NOT have a metal mount.

[@zambination11]

​@@set3777 Yeap, but she compares it to the EF STM version. So the Canon 50mm f1.8 II you mention is irrelevant

[@set3777]

​@@zambination11 OP must have gotten rid of her EF 50mm f1.8 II and bought the 50mm f1.2 USM instead many years ago so from her memory the EF version of 50mm f1.8 had a plastic mount. It is NOT irrelevant. The Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II was the "nifty fifty" for 15 years 1990-2015 and sold the most so much so that many KZbinRS even called it the "plastic fantastic". The EF 50mm 1.8 (let's called it mk 1) had a metal mount but was only produced for 3 years (1987-1990) and is rare. And the EF 50mm f1.8 STM version only appeared since 2015 by which time many professionals have gotten the metal mount EF 50mm f1.4 or the metal mount EF 50mm f1.2 or the metal mount 50mm f1.0 instead of that "plastic fantastic".

[@zambination11]

​@@set3777 You are totally right, but she doesn't mention the "old" version but rather clearly the EF version. So because she reviews the Canon RF 50mm f/1.8 STM, for me its common sense that she compares it to the Canon EF 50mm f1.8 STM is selling at moment.

[@erik1836]

I really like the fact you are concerned about someone over extending themselves financially. The advice you gave is solid gold. My firm rule is I NEVER buy anything that isn't going to appreciate in value on time. A house would qualify a camera, a lens, a car? Absolutely not. Better to work harder, save up and then own it. As you so aptly pointed out, having the less expensive lens is not going to hurt one's ability to produce an acceptable product. And besides, we both know, that most clients could never, will never, be as picky as are we. They will naturally know that we are doing our best we can die them and love us for caring about them the way we do. Your daughter and nephew are incredibly cute! Incidentally.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for sharing Erik!

[@erik1836]

@@KatelynJames You are very welcome Katelyn. I have a question though I am hoping you can help me out with. I am going to buy the new Sony a7R V in about 6 months after all the as yet undiscovered bugs are exterminated! I want to buy a good, high quality lens for it. One that will produce excellent closeups, median range (portraits) and handle landscapes serviceably but not particularly high priority. My work revolves around my taking images I shoot, putting them through the arcane processes I have figured out and producing digital images that bear little actual resemblance to their progenitor photos, but which sell as giclee prints on canvas for about a thousand or so. This likely will be the last actual "real" camera I will invest in as, let's face it, the quality the Sony a7R V yields? Who really needs more? Yes, some my dear! I am sure - that that is so - but not, yours truly. I can take a 13 megapixal RAW image right now, shot with my phone and turn it into a 24 x 36 inch print file that at 16 bits and 300 DPI is around 600 MB that's amazing and tack sharp. So, I think I will maybe be able, with the Sony a7R V, to somehow muddle through! If you have a suggestion for a really good lens, even if expensive, I would welcome very much your help and counsel. Thank you in advance!

[@louisverduzco851]

Hey my car is worth more than I bought it for brand new (2008 Honda S2000). There are some exceptions 😉

[@vocefuoricampo1234]

So much fun to see you taking pictures of the kids having fun! I completely lost focus on testing the lenses and had to review everything! Much better than those very serious technical reviews

[@loganz]

I have L lenses and the cheaper RF lenses. I switch to the cheaper RF 50, 35, 24 for candid time. It really saves on the weight and fatigue for those few hours.. and less intimidating to guests.

[@KatelynJames]

Great idea!

[@zayanything3124]

I had a wedding a weekend from August until October 1st and found the RF 50 1.2 for $500 less than retail on eBay and decided to purchase as sort of a long term rental and I’d sell it once the wedding season was over. It’s fall mini and senior session season and I still can’t let it go. It never leaves my camera. I often debate whether it’s worth it, as it’s sometimes too sharp for some of my clients, but I still love it.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@TonyGrant.]

I find that reducing clarity in Adobe camera RAW can soften skin and subtly reduce detail. It also softens highlights.

[@magiccarpetrider4594]

@@TonyGrant.duplicate the layer, mask the background and blur the one underneath, then lower the opacity of the upper layer.

[@roboHare73]

R5 has given my old EF 50 f1.2 a new lease of life. Fast autofocus and now nails focus 100% of the time. Less digitally crisp as the newer RF glass but still a beautifully sharp portrait lens.

[@KatelynJames]

Love it!

[@OhhhhhhhBugger]

For people who ACTUALLY want and honest idea of what these 2 lenses really are: The F1.2 lens is FAR superior, in every way. It isn't just sharpness, it is color rendering and everything else. Yes, it is worth it. If you can't afford it, the 1.8 is just ok. But for nit-picks like me, the 1.2 beats everything else.....

[@Tzunami07]

Part of the Arguments IS to justify the costs, professionals Always Look for roi.

[@OhhhhhhhBugger]

@@Tzunami07 ROI is one thing, and artistic vision and the creative process are a totally different thing. Pros need to consider the final product, and THAT will contribute to their returns. Of course though, customers are the final and true judge.

[@ivanjasper6772]

Solid advice. I would like to see a similar comparison between an ef 1.2 and an Rf 1.2

[@KatelynJames]

We made a video comparing the EF and RF versions! Here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/enfNeqakapemitE

[@thayes21364]

I was actually going to ask this because I trust her judgment over most. I have an EF 85 1.2 but can’t afford the Rf yet and would love the truth.

[@cjm8160]

@@thayes21364 the RF 85 f1.2 is faster than the EF version. If you are only shooting subjects that stay perfectly still then the EF version is fine, but if you know your subject is going to be moving around get the RF

[@southbridgeforestHOA]

@@cjm8160 or just learn photography and use a faster shutter speed would be a lot chepaer and smarter

[@brookscurran]

@@southbridgeforestHOA faster shutter speeds don't compensate for slow focus on the ef version....

[@andreimicle]

The 50 1.8 is only sharp in the dead center, and I’ve seen this with multiple copies, hence the decision not to waste the money on this lens. Getting the eyes in focus is a must most of the time especially if you print the photos.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@daemon1143]

For me, the nifty 50 is a great lens for the price and a lot of pros have made a lot of money shots with them over the years. The main benefit of the f1.2 is the edge to edge sharpness, where the f1.8 clarity drops off on the edges noticeably. Personally, I'd prefer to spend the money on the f1.2 85 or the f1.8 135, and take the nifty fifty over the f1.2.

[@andrewelder2739]

YES!! When I switched to the Canon R6 this past June, I bought this exact 'trifecta' of budget lenses: the 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm (all together for

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@breannamedek9186]

Which one is your favorite out of all? I’m really torn on spending the extra money up front just so I don’t regret not going all in…

[@andrewelder2739]

@@breannamedek9186 sorry for the late reply, didn't get a notification on this. It really has to depend on what you do most. If events and groups, the 35mm is probably best for flexibility, and can still do decent if you need to move close for individual shots. The 85mm is GREAT if you mostly do headshots and portraits, but will struggle with anything wider or with more than 1 or 2 people. The 50mm is the best all-rounder, and if I could only have one it would be that.

[@mickeyjetpur7998]

Oh my gosh! I bought this wonderful 1.8 refurbished for $79!! I just got it delivered and tried it out. It is amazing and if you are a hiker this is a no brainer. It is sooooo light! And it’s superb! Hiking is gonna be fun again. And I don’t have to lug a heavy lens around. I have the Canon R6 mkll and this combo is amazing! Best $79 I ever spent on photography.

[@Peter-bx7ip]

That Canon Holiday sale was beautiful

[@alanm.6096]

The ultimate question: will your target market notice the difference? In the vast majority of cases, absolutely not. If you need the 1.2....rent it. Better for cash flow.

[@CaptainJack63]

😊When I bought my R5 I was pretty much tapped out. I bought the Control Ring EF-RF adapter for $199 and used my EF 50 f1.8 (note the are two versions of the EF 50mm f1.8. One has a plastic mount and the newer one has a metal mount which is the version I have). I slapped on my 50 and when shooting to learn all the functions of the R5. I was able to purchase the $3,000 dollar Canon RF 28-70 f2 on B&H credit card and its what I'm using now. 🤗 That said, I still love 🥰using my Nifty Fifty (aka 50mm f1.8) when I go out street shooting. The idea is, it's lighter weight and I get more candid shots because I don't have my huge 28-70 that makes people a bit nervous. The adapter makes the lens a bit longer which I kind of like because I can use the length to rest my camera on my hand. I also prefer the control ring near the back like film camera lenses did. I really wanted to just buy the RF version of the 50 but decided my current adapted EF works fantastic. Something that's a little interesting. 🧐My EF 50mm has a starting focusing point of 0.35m/1.1ft. Whereas my 28-70mm starts at 0.39m/1.28ft. Now that's splitting hairs but the Nifty Fifty is slightly ahead for starting focus point. I have a hand full of filters for my EF 50 which are very affordable. I have a basic UV filter not that I need UV as the sensor doesn't care about UV light like the old film days, but it makes it easier to clean. I don't get any dust or dirt on the inner sides of the lens. Just a simple wipe of the filter and it's spotless. Since the filter is cheap, I don't even use the lens cap because if you are like me, you keep losing them. I like to call my UV filter my Glass Lens Cap. It's always on and ready to go. I also have a CPL, and two ND fiters to go with it. I didn't buy the expensive Canon petal-type lens hood which I think petal-types are pointless. I went with JJC LH-68 cylindrical lens hood. It does a way better job because it blocks out more light from the sides. Even though it's plastic, there are metal parts for the button for removal from the lens. You can even reverse it to make it more compact for storage. Like my freaking front pocket! 🤓So how good is the Nifty Fifty? Yes its a little softer if you are pixel peeping. There is a slightly a little more color aberration but that's a easy fix in post if needed. My 28-70 also has the same issue just not as pronounced. So could I shoot an wedding with the Nifty Fifty? Absolutly! With the power of the new R series bodies the nifty fivty is a good choice for a first lens. Even when you start building your collection of L-series lenses, the 50mm f1.8 still has its uses. Even had I had a collection of L lenses, I still would run out and buy the Nifty Fifty. Its really that good! Light weight, fast, and affordable which makes it a no brainer. 🚫🧠 🤗

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@TonyGrant.]

I have the RF 50 1.8 for low light shooting (and the 85mm 1.4L IS as well). I had the EF 50 1.8 for my DSLR but you still had a bottom shutter limit - if I was real careful I could get down to 1/8th HH and get reasonably sharp images. Although the RF 50 1.8 is unstabilised the IBIS makes a big difference - I can comfortably shoot at 1/8th with it on my R7 - and lower if I have to. To me the 50mm 1.8 is a much better lens on an R series camera than it was on a DSLR.

[@Leberkasbepi]

I had the 50mm 1.8 first and it was ok for this price. But what i really hated was the dust inside the lens. I tried always to keep my equipment clean and dust free, but the 50 got after few weeks always dust inside. That alone is a big reason, why i use only L lenses in the future. But for beginner, is the cheaper 50mm great.

[@nothingsacred8684]

Admittedly, I just bought the 1.8 50mm lens, its my second lens ever. My first lens was the kit one, the 24-105mm f4-7.5 zoom lens and I have to say, the 50mm is BLOWING ME AWAY! I'm so excited!

[@bangsmash]

That second will turn into a third, fourth, fifth…… 😂

[@brianode11]

I own the R6 and the RF 35 1.8, 50 1.8, and 85 2. I’m not a huge fan of the 85 for some reason. I adapt the EF 135 2 when I want the magic look for portraits. The RF 50 1.8 is a great lens that gets tons of use on my R6. Would highly recommend it, not even because of the cost.

[@KatelynJames]

Interesting about the 85mm! I am so impressed with the 50mm 1.8!

[@brianode11]

@@KatelynJames From what I remember about the EF 85 1.8, I used to enjoy that lens back in the day. But the RF 85 2 just doesn’t seem to render with that “it” factor. Maybe I haven’t spent enough time using it? I usually reach for the 50/135 combo.

[@brianode11]

@@KatelynJames Have you had the chance to test out the RF 85 f2? I’d be curious to see what you think.

[@TonyGrant.]

I have the 85mm 1.4L and it's amazing. I don't know if it's as sharp as the RF 85 f2 but it is pretty sharp. I got it for my DSLR because it's image stabilised. Now I'm using it on an R7 it's very accurate and wide open it murders the background nicely. think it would be pretty damn good on an R6.

[@WanderAroundTown]

i love how calm your voice and video are, thank you for this!

[@goldfries]

Nice comparison, though you should consider that the f/1.2 is stopped own to f/1.8 - while it's very good at f/1.2 it would have some image improvement at f/1.8 and that's a little over 1-stop difference. 50mm f/1.8 however you used it at f/1.8 - it's already a cheap lens, and usually they don't perform their best at widest. Stopping down 1 or 2 stops (to f/2.8 - f/4 range) could make a lot of difference in the image quality. Your conclusion however is correct. I build my photography career with the EF 50mm f/1.8 and EF 50mm f/1.4 and they're not issue to me as I photograph stills and often stop down to f/5.6 - f/8 range. Those EF lenses are far inferior compared to RF glass, and that EF 50mm f/1.8 was so annoying as it hunts too often.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@erinjackson9457]

I spent the majority of my first year and a half in business on my ef 50 1.8 and I love it! I just got the Sigma 28-70 2.8 this summer and am in heaven lol. I’m very happy with these two (I have a 70-300 4.0 that I hardly ever use unless personally for landscape) and will probably save for another year or two to get the 70-200 🥰

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@65bucksmedia]

By far my favorite video explaining the difference between two different classes of lenses. Thank you!

[@ro3843]

I really respect the honesty, practicality and reasonableness of your advice. I think it's spot on!

[@KatelynJames]

I appreciate that!

[@tap6943]

I have just realized that ever since I bought these non-L RF lens, I have not touching my L lens as they are too large, heavy in comparison. I think L lens are properly reserved for professional work that required very large print size. Anything else, these lens are more than capable. Clients would be equally happy with the results from both L and non-L RF

[@caribgen]

I have just gotten mine and did a shoot with it .I am very happy with it .

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@davidroberts5535]

The AF on the 1.8 is pretty loud. But you’re right, if you never used a 1.2 you don’t know what you’re missing. If I had the cash to spend, I’d go for the 85mm 1.2 instead.

[@KatelynJames]

I do LOVE my 85mm 1.2! That comes down to personal preference and what you shoot primarily.

[@MarcS4R]

i am honestly considering getting the 1.8 , and i already have the 1.2. Main reasons are weight and I heard great things about it . if i want the best clarity i use my GFX

[@TheArtofKAS]

Definitely will recommend especially if you can get it for under $160.

[@KatelynJames]

If size and weight are a big factor for you then the 1.8 is a great option for those circumstances!

[@ShikLam666]

In my humble opinion, pretty much any reputable lens is a good lens. It is the person behind the lens which counts. I started as an amateur photographer when I was 15, then became a professional camera equipments sales only for the pro for many years. I am in my 60’s now, looking back at the industry things had changed a great deal, but the one thing never change is quality of the equipment and the skill of the photographer is the utmost important factors if you want to produce a good photo. But always remember it is the creator not the equipment comes first.

[@bobhadland2554]

True well said.

[@fakkerdakker]

I do like my nifty 50 and have captured some beautiful shots with it. I've taken the plunge and ordered the 1.2 (be here on Monday). I'm really excited to see what it can do. The nifty 50 is very prone to soft photos and I feel lucky when I get a good one. I found that the best way to get more sharp pictures than less with the nifty 50 is to stop down to 2.8 and set your shutter to a min of 1/100s (1/250s is the sweet spot on my lens). But Katelyn is spot on with her assessment on it. Make sure you have one in your bag and test your creativity and skill with it. It is a great investment for the RF cameras.

[@KatelynJames]

Enjoy it! You’re going to love the 1.2, it’s amazing!

[@TonyGrant.]

Are you using that on a mirrorless or a DSLR?

[@fakkerdakker]

@@TonyGrant. My R6.

[@ameetkini8554]

Awesome comparison video! I've used the Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 with my R6 and the results are incredible-way better than with my DSLR. Probably because mirrorless cameras need no lens calibration, and focusing was perfect!

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@locsbcn]

Exactly. No more autofocus problems.

[@TonyGrant.]

I'm using the EF 85mm 1.4L on my R7 and it's very nice. I got the RF 50 1.8 recently but have only done some snaps with it so far but the focus seems spot on. Although I can say that the EF 85 1.4 is way sharper.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@jimjimgl3]

I use Canon lenses on my R5 and also Zeiss Planar and Zeiss Milvus. I was shooting at a advertising agency's studio recently and it was overhead food. I went from the 24-105 Canon to the 50mm Macro Zeiss and when the image with the Zeiss lens change popped up on the screen my assistant said "Dude. That is insane". He meant, specifically, how sharp and in focus the Zeiss lens felt compared to the R5. I don't mind a bit of softness to a lens but usually on commercial jobs clients want everything sharp and everything in focus. The more expensive lenses tend to bring that to the table.

[@KatelynJames]

Of course! For commercial jobs you’d want the best of the best! But for the cost this lens surprised me!

[@defyingtheodds1987]

I just Sold my EF USM 50 f/1.2. But I do have my 85 f/2. STM macro, and ordered the 50 f/1.8 right now. Refurbished for only $130 from canon. Most clients, if not all with the exception of product photography cannot tell the difference.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@RicCederholm]

I wish Canon would allow third-party manufacturers to produce RF lenses. I picked up a used Sigma 50 1.4 Art EF mount lens for my R6 and it is amazing. And it cost me slightly over $500.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@DustinBairdsolo]

I’m kind of more blown away by the even exposure inside of your house to the outside. This video looks amazing. Great work on the whole thing!

[@tylerherrinton]

Gotta love the 16 stops of dynamic range on the C70!

[@DustinBairdsolo]

@@tylerherrinton funny thing! I was typing this as she showed the picture of the video rig. I have that same set up. The c70 and rs2. Such a great camera!

[@KatelynJames]

Thank you so much!

[@jwanger142]

Ya their video set up for KZbin is insane. Probably more accessible when it can be a write off for a business.

[@tylerherrinton]

@@jwanger142 I use all my own equipment for KZbin filming! Technically a write off for my own business I suppose but isn't all equipment a write off?

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

I WANT the 50mm 1.2, but I settled for the 50mm 1.8, since I only do photography as a side hustle and a hobby. Also, having a family with two kids and lots of bills to pay, I really can’t justify the 2000$ difference. This still does not kill my WANT for the lens, but videos like this show how far one can come with a cheaper lens.

[@erikjuarezdk2367]

You can definitely use the 1.8 for professional use. Been doing professional social media work for brands, even with the EF version of the 1.8. And "worse" lenses than that. It's ALL about your professional level, not if you can or can't use it. The first year of shooting, my lens for 95% of the video work I did, was a cheap 10-18mm f 3.5-.5.6 efs lense on a Canon 80d.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@jaybarr9860]

I use the 1.2 for weddings and 1.8 for travel! Super easy to throw in my purse and grab some shots!

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for sharing!

[@mzimmerman12]

Thanks for the honest review. I just got back into my camera stuff and purchased the RP full framed Canon. My subjects have all grown up, got married without grand kids for now. I have a 1/2 dozen or so EF lenses (non L) and two EF L lenses (17-40) and (70-200). I really don't want to jump right into expensive RF lenses at this point in my life, yet anyways. My subjects will be interior design like kitchens and baths (which I do for a living). Thinking the EF L 17-40 should work for now. What are your thoughts for that type of photography? Sometimes I just couldn't get back far enough with the C-sized sensors which is why I decided on the full framed RP' I will probably use the photos for website, etc. I also like to hike/back pack and the smallness of the RP was attractive to me (especially with that little RF50 you just demoed) I enjoy taking nice landscapes but maybe not at the expense of all that weight (and liability $$$) in the back country. Love to know your recommendations if you have the time. (Subscribed)

[@skyscraperfan]

It might also depend on your camera resolution and if you like bokeh. Personally I always stop down enough to make sure that the whole face from note tip to ears is in focus. Will you still see a difference if you stop down both lenses to f/4?

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@joeguetzloff4465]

Katelyn, I am about to switch / upgrade to a Canon RF camera. I currently have a T6s and use the 50mm f1.8 EF lens for portraits and astrophotography. It gets TINY pinpoint super sharp stars and it's fast enough to soak up tons of nebula gasses (especially with Ha filter inserted). My question for you is: Is the RF version just as good / comparable to the EF version? And should I just invest in the EF-RF adapter and use my old EF lens on my RF camera?

[@deeweeuavp]

As a beginner - Canon 850D with 18/55 & 55/250 lens by Canon. They suit my needs alongside my drone footage. It's a hobby not my main source of income. Decent ... Thanks Katelyn

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@Hodenkat]

To me, there is a fairly big difference in sharpness. Is it worth $2K more? If you are a professional, absolutely. If you have that much spare cash... sure. I can't see spending that much for a prime lens but knock your socks off if you can. I have the RF 50 /1.8 on my R7 and think it's wonderful for the hobby purposes I use it for (1.6X crop so it equals an 80mm)

[@KatelynJames]

Agreed!

[@rainandshinedesignco.7541]

I just recently bought the RF 50 1.8 to use as my travel lens and I love how small and compact it is.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for sharing!

[@jimcookimages]

Nice. Shot with the 1.8 for a hot minute last year, similar results. The size/weight is one of its advantages, especially one-handed eg street work etc.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@ckjjclan]

If you don’t crop too much, what size can you print your r6 files (I assume you shoot raw)? Thank you, love the channel.

[@KatelynJames]

I have printed over 16x20 and it has been fine

[@jenniferweinman5530]

Having shot with both of these in less than ideal lighting, I can say the 1.2 wins hands down for speed and focus in darker settings or receptions. The RF 1.8 reeeeeeeally struggles in dappled light, receptions with DJ lights, etc. I think the minimum focus distance is also not as good. I'm a big fan of the 50 in general, but the bokeh and look of the 1.2 is so much dreamier, so I'm sticking with that.

[@KatelynJames]

Love it Jennifer!

[@FreddyBoyBoy]

Thank you, this was very educational and exactly was I was looing for. I'm new to this channel, got to say your video, lights and audio is outstanding! what microphones are you using?

[@KatelynJames]

Glad it was helpful! That would be a ty question haha

[@TheArtofKAS]

Ooooo... Can't get enough of these comparisons. They're all so fun to work with and The feel and images made by them are just 👏🏿👌

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks so much!

[@maitland1007]

Thanks for that. It was really helpful. For me, another big decision factor besides the price is the weight. I hate lugging huge heavy lenses, so if something light and plastic works decently, that's a big plus.

[@reginaldwalton]

I'm not a full-time professional photographers (or part time pro for that matter), but I do make money with my gear and I've NEVER (not one time) had a client ask me what gear I use, let alone the lens or aperture value of a lens; they just want their pics to look good. The only time I get asked what type of gear I use, is when I'm applying to be a second shooter for an event. I think all the gear talk mostly comes from us semi-pro/hobbyist/enthusiasts folk. And yes I do have L glass, but didn't start out with it.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@DT0me7624]

As a new photographer starting my business, the RF 50mm 1.8f lens is tiny but works great for me until I can afford higher quality. It also works well with my beginner Canon EOS RP, and I’m sure it’ll work well with the next camera body.

[@KatelynJames]

That's a great way to approach lenses when you're first starting out!

[@n0w3lly90]

Most f1.8 standard 50mm lenses are very sharp stellar performers and useful for a range of applications. Because they are light they give better balance, and less fatigue holding your kit. So in terms of bang for your buck, they should be in your kit bag. An f/1.2 50mm is far more expensive because it has far more exotic and more expensive optical glass within (and it is glass), magnesium and other alloys in the construction, and, they are produced in far smaller volumes, meaning the unit costs are much higher

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@n0w3lly90]

@@KatelynJames no worries... excellent video 😊

[@itsferm28]

THANKS! I'm trying to get into photography and sometimes the pricing for some of these lenses just make me feel that I will need to turn away from this. I knew there was going to be a difference but as you said, it can get the job done. Thanks for your insights, I do appreciate professionals making things a bit easier for begginers. hoping to watch more videos like this!

[@KatelynJames]

Happy to help!

[@gnnadi1]

Ok, you are about the best I have listened to. You got me hooked with you clarifying in first 3 mins. One of the best comparisons so far in the Tube👏

[@KatelynJames]

Awesome, thank you! Thanks for watching!

[@michaelescalera9909]

I’d rather get a 35-50-85mm 1.8 and a 70-300 2.8 for a grand total of 2k instead of dropping it all on 1 lense knowing that I can literally do everything good instead of being amazing at 1 thing

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@chrislognshot]

yes there is. since background get more bury out or blown out from 1.2 to 1.8 and 1.2 is faster glass

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@huguesfd]

Hi Katelyn, thank you for this very straight-to-the-point video about the RF 50 / 1.8 lens. I am planning on getting this lens very soon. I really appreciate the simplicity you put in sharing your personal and budget-wise thoughts from a professional point of you. It makes me want to ask you a question; based on your long experience as a photographer, where do you put your limit in terms of sacrifice between a very sharp image (pixel-wise) and a very nice photo (moment)? What I am trying to say in fact is how do you establish the limit between these two when it comes to sending your final work to the client. I know it might be very suggestive but as I am at the dawn of a professional career, I would like to know from your long experience what pleased more your clients (weddings and events) between a very sharp crispy pixel image and a very good image that captures the moment / the glance of special memory? I hope my question does sound stupid🤦‍♂. Thank you

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@raywu6787]

For the clarity of the image content in the photo quality and the realism of the visual contrast, the correct white balance accuracy of the photo is far more important than the factors of the old and new camera body and the price of the lens.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@michaelblumfield3933]

An affordable compromise between the RF lenses would be a used (or even new) Sigma Art 50mm f1.4. It's fantastic on my R6 with a very professional look. Total cost for the EF-RF adapter and my used copy was $600. Also recommended: the Canon EF 70-200 F4 IS. I picked up one for $400 and it works like a charm with the mirrorless R series, despite being a lens originally released in 2006.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for sharing!

[@southbridgeforestHOA]

13:30 good thing you are honest. one can tell just by the sound of your voice that it's not worth $2000 more. if one has to zoom in to 200% to see the slight sharpness increase then a client will never ever experience that difference. Maybe outdoors with a busy background the 1.2 will really shine by blowing out the background other than that it's a hard no from me. If I had a little $$$ I'd invest in the sigma 50mm 1.4 art which is $650 new or about half that used.

[@DK-ys2cw]

In the Nikon Z world you pay more for the 1.8 lens than for the Canon, but the image quality would likely be much closer to the f/1.2. Only mentioning to note this 1.8 vs 1.2 comparison applies to Canon and less so to Nikon, where the 1.8 lenses involve even less compromise.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@dimakor5914]

Recently I decided to buy some compact mirorrless camera, and 50/1.8 is why I choosed canon, ordered Canon RP with 50/1.8. 160$ against 500$ Sony/Nikon 1.8 primes, and they are huge in comparison to 50/1.8 STM

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@stephaniesabourin3248]

I bought it for a walk around lens, not a business lens. It is a nice little lens for taking with you in small spaces etc.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@anavictorialozanolopez160]

I would love to know your opinion with the 85 1.2 VS 85 2.0 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@Xirpzy]

I got the Viltrox RF 85mm 1.8 for portraits. I hope canon adds more cheap RF lenses and allow third party in the future. More options is great.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Macjohn1419]

It’s all about the glass. I started with budget glass and when I finally bought a premium lens, it was totally night and day. I’ve since only buy premium glass and I tell others to invest in good glass. It won’t disappoint. Your photos will standout from the crowd time and time again.

[@randallbrander8157]

I would also include the Rf 24mm and 16mm for a startup kit with the 35mm, 50mm and the 85mm. I also have the EF-S 10-18mm and the EF-S 24mm for my R7 and R10 APSC cameras. The only other lens I bought was the 100-400mm lens. I am debating on what Full Frame camera to buy from Canon. I love how you can save the settings for video and picture mode for the R7.

[@alleyeditor]

You get some really cool imagery if you flip the 50 back to front, it then becomes a macro lens. Try it out, but make sure camera is locked down other wise its just a big blur. And thanks for doing this.

[@TedNghiem]

I have both lenses. The 1.8 has a shorter focusing distance compared to the 1.2, if that means anything to anyone.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for sharing Ted!

[@orshanti]

great video Katelyn! and what do you think about the ef 50 1.2? will it be better than the rf 1.8? i do have the rf 1.8 and i dont love it too much... (RP camera and going to buy R6 MK2 soon)

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@HR-wd6cw]

In my limited testing of 1.2 vs 1.8, it is noticeable in some instances (the difference between a 1.2 and a 1.4 is far less) but there is a decent jump from the 1.2 to a 1.8 lens (in general, in terms of bokeh for most cameras). I don't shoot Canon but the same pretty much does hold true for most brands as it's not really brand specific, but rather just how the optics work between a 1.2 and a 1.8. That being said, as a hobbyist photographer who does travel and landscape, 1.8 is plenty for me. If I was doing professional model photography or weddings, then I might invest in a 1.4 or 1.2 lens. I think though most 1.8 lenses are a steal for the average person, s they offer plenty of shallow DOF over even a 2.8 lens but they are also quite cost effective. Canon's 50 mm 1.8 you mentioned and Nikon's 50 1.8G lens (f-mount) are two examples of sharp, but cheap options that give you nice bokeh.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for sharing!

[@rastersplatter]

Good review. I got the 1.8 because RF glass is so expensive and for $159, it almost seems free compared to that $2K+ glass. Having fun with it. Thanks. I really enjoy all your KZbin vids. Please keep them coming.

[@KatelynJames]

Will do!

[@joshchamale7897]

Hi! If you had to choose between the 50 mm 1.2 and the 28-70 mm 2, which one would you pick?

[@KatelynJames]

I have been choosing the 28-70 2.0

[@luisfandre]

that is a great video Katelyn! what microphone are you using? the sound is so crisp and clear!

[@seasterl]

Rather than getting a few starter kit-level primes, would you instead suggest the 24-105 f/4 L instead?

[@rilijn]

I think only you can decide that. The primary difference will be a significantly greater light transmission with the primes and better subject isolation due to a shallower depth of field. Sometimes primes can be better lenses with fewer compromises than a zoom, but that's on a case by case basis. If you're brand new to photography, sometimes it can be nice to buy a zoom to figure out what focal length speaks to you. Or, the classic answer would be to buy a 35mm or a 50mm and shoot with it for a year before buying anything else - learn photography with a simple prime, then you can upgrade your path later. Personally, I used to own all the zooms, the 2.8 holy trinity, wildlife lenses, everything. I sold it all for a couple of macro lenses and a fantastic prime trio. I own 5 total lenses now and I am much happier. But it took me a while to get here. Best of luck!

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@TechnologyHive]

Very nice to see something different for once, compared to all the other reviews talking about specs and this and that but not really focusing on hands-on experience compared to a much higher priced option. Thanks you guys for the video!

[@brandnaqua]

very helpful video!

[@vapno92]

Hey there and thank You for Your amazing work! As an AMATEUR photographer, who’s not ever planning to do this for a living, I must say, I am amazed by this lens. If PORTABILITY is what You are looking for, this is no-brainer, especially with EOS RP. This lens with EOS RP is literallly POCKET SIZE and You still have advantages of having full frame camera, great f1.8 aperture and nifty-fifty focal lenght and You don’t need that rather bulky adapter... And in my humble opionion, this lens actually IS better in some aspects, than EF 50mm f1.4, that costs twice as much and You need bulky adapter for it. ... There’s no way around it, it’s optical design is like what, 30 years old at this point?

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@MarkRameyMRFilm]

Thanks for a great comparison video. I know some photographers (and clients) would appreciate how the 50mm f/1.8 isn't "brutally" sharp for portraiture. The only other thing that I would like to see would be a low light scenario, like you would often be up against at a reception. Which would most likely be where the f/1.2 obviously would really shine. The fastest lens that I have is my EF 50mm f/1.8 STM & I really like it and it seems noticeably better than the previous version. It also looks it's best when closed a stop or more. My other primes are f/2.8 (24 & 40mm). I have all crop sensor cameras BTW. My favorite lens is my 24-70mm f/4 L which I use for 90% + of my photography. I shoot primarily video. I only occasionally shoot weddings / events but I know that the struggle is real during receptions that you can't light. Keep up the great work!

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching Mark!

[@bigjohn2810]

My favorite lens WAS my Canon 24-70mm f2.8, Canon RF 85mm F1.2 L USM Lens Is now My favorite. Your "struggle during receptions that you can't light" is due to the high f stop of cheap lenses. Try a Canon EF 24mm f/1.4 fixed lens, absolutely amazing for dimly lit receptions/bars.

[@Health-and-Wellness-Now]

I had the 50 1.2 and took it back after I got the 50 1.8. I agree with everything you said, but I shoot a lot of video too and the 1.8 is WAY lighter! Plus I had the 28-70 2.0. If I were to pick up another lens for photo only, I’d go 85 1.2 or 70-200.

[@Health-and-Wellness-Now]

Also, the focus of the 50 1.2 was much louder than the 1.8

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@lindseygarrett286]

I love the video! Not camera related, but I also love your jacket! Can you link it? ☺️

[@KatelynJames]

It is from Target!

[@jessicabowman5889]

I have been struggling with this exact question! I am just starting to take my photography from hobbyist to professional and this information is exactly what I have been looking for! I LOVE your teaching style and will definitely be following you! I really look forward to taking your classes very soon.

[@koukics]

I had the Rf 1.8 and didn’t like the CA. Had to sell it and buy the Rf 1.2. I’m happy with my decision.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@drysky]

The lack of M/AF focus switch might be the $2000 difference, but it shouldn't be (just include the switch!!!). Also, Katelyn your light and color in your video is some of the best on KZbin period.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@waynosfotos]

The 1.8 50, is the best value for money in the canon line up. Not all cheap lens are that good. I invested in the 1.2 85mm rather than the 50mm. As i prefer this compression. These lighter lens are idea for flying on a gimbal or steady cam.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@OcularPerceptions]

Yup, it's always difficult returning to your Nissan Versa once you've driven a Maserati. They both get you to your destination, but the quality of ride is quite noticeable.

[@downlink_x]

The entry level RF lenses are actually insane! Even if I also have the expensive ones like 85 1.2 L RF and 28-70 2.0 RF, I love to use the small and lightweight 35 1.8 RF and 16 2.8 RF for private purposes (with EOS RP instead of R5), when it‘s not necessary to have 100% excellent quality.

[@KatelynJames]

That’s a great idea!

[@n3orun]

Would have loved a further comparison with the 28-70 2.0 at 50mm.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@valentinmovilaru2690]

Hello. Try to review your images in develop module in lightroom. I noticed a diffrence in rendering when viewing pictures in library.

[@KatelynJames]

Thanks for watching!

[@Neanderthal_yardy]

Thanks you! Now I can focus on getting the RF 85mm f/1.2 L. Side note could you rent a couple of Lensbaby do a piece on the unique lens affects. Thanks in advance. 🧏🏾‍♂️👍🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@KatelynJames]

Great idea!

[@UKWildcatsNumber1]

What camera and wireless microphone was your cameraman using? Had to look for your lavaliere. Didn’t see it when first watching.

[@tylerherrinton2597]

Shot on a Canon C70 and we don’t use lavs in the studio. I boom with an Audio Technica AT4053b shotgun 👍🏼

[@hannahbarrett3143]

I bought the rf 50 1.8 to travel with because traveling with my L lenses makes me nervous, but then I don't even bring it because I just can't get myself to love it. I've actually found it to be slower than my 35 1.4 (I decided 28-70 over the 50) even with the EF-RF adapter on the 35mm and I have two little ones that like to move, so the focus drag on the 50 1.8 a little frustrating. I also get annoyed editing with it because it renders blacks much heavier. But it's soooooo light!!

[@KatelynJames]

There are definitively compromises but I think it performs great for the price!