Photoelectric Effect History: A Battle of Einstein vs. Lenard

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You made me laugh. 18 minutes is too short?? Thanks.

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@@Kathy_Loves_Physics More like fifteen minutes, the rest is spent on introduction for this video and set-up for the next video and theme music on both ends. They are short when normal programming for a short show is 30 min or about 25 min runtime. Really though, why are they too short? It seems you are just getting started and it ends. Not by the information provided but because you make it so compelling.

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Einstein later commented that general relativity, which treats space-time as ... well, a substance, since it can be bent in the presence of mass, is basically the equivalent of an aether. In fact, he didn't see how anyone could conceive of cause and effect without the existence of an aether. Great video, though. Immensely enjoyable and informative.

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[@Kathy_Loves_Physics]

Thank you for that lovely comment. Cheers, Kathy

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Thank you so much.

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History is nuts, and you tell it so well over and over, so many things I've heard before but without so many interesting details. Thank you!

[@jacksondouglas5694]

I studied physics and one of my oldest professors was a German physicist who studied at Heidelberg University in the 30´s with incredible professors. Sommerfeld, Heisenberg, etc. On one occasion he told me that he had an experimental class on X-ray diffraction and the professor who was a fascist prepared a crystal in such a way that the diffraction pattern was a swastika. Probably was Lenard.

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[@richardpetervonrahden6393]

Had never heard of Lenard before, but fascinating to hear of both the good and malevolent influences he had on science and the course of history. Thank you.

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Thank you! That was so sweet. I wasn't sure this one was particularly entertaining.

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Aww thanks

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Oliver Heavyside would be a great topic of one of your videos. He gave us Maxwells equation in the form we are familiar with.

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Your concise but detailed historical perspective has helped me, as an interested lay person, better understand the physics itself, while making it interesting and bringing it to life from the historic side. Thank you!

[@Kathy_Loves_Physics]

Glad it was helpful!

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[@Kathy_Loves_Physics]

So glad you liked it. I have a ton of videos so you can actually spend hours listening to me if you want.

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I always enjoy your lectures on the people who are behind the equations. that is part of the story. thank you

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Excellent video, it really helps to learn about the human side of scientific progress.

[@keybawd4023]

Another superb video bringing it all to life as you bring the scientists to life. One scientist that I was sad you didn't mention -- you referred to him as a British scientist - is Arthur Eddington. A fascinating and important man. A torch bearer for Einstein (as well as an eclipse watcher for Einstein!). He was no mean scientist either, especially in cosmology. He proposed that the energy of the stars came from fusion, and he was proved right. I wish there was an index of your videos, I can't always find one that follows another. The Lennard story is amazing and I shall have to watch the video again - pure drama. I am learning so much. Thank you.

[@Kathy_Loves_Physics]

What little I know of Eddington is very interesting and I’m scared to look into it more deeply cause I’m gonna fall down that rabbit hole I just know it.

[@keybawd4023]

@@Kathy_Loves_Physics I can't imagine you falling down a rabbit hole - but if you did I'm sure you would make an interesting video about it! But how about a video on the journeys to Principe and Sobral (in Brazil) for the eclipse, and the problems - in Sobral the villagers wanted to set off fireworks during the eclipse and that had to be diplomatically stopped. Then (I think) Eddington was very "generous" in his interpretations of the photos. A fascinating story.

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Great video as always and what a great presentation.

[@Kathy_Loves_Physics]

Thanks

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Late to the party, but ... you really hit this one out of the park, Ms. K. Thanks!

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It’s never too late to give me a compliment, thank you 😊

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Great job, had never heard of Lenard or drama with Nobel committee not awarding the medal to Einstein because of Lenard's efforts

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It’s not too late. I’m still here.

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Thanks I find history of science and scientists to be a puzzle and I love putting the puzzle pieces together

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great video. The context behind some of the stuff I teach is fascinating and you explain it so well.

[@elonstaxang350]

Great summary, presented very entertainingly, thanks! Just read about the rise and fall off Lenard in a memoir book. Sad to ruin a career by going head first into fascism and personal vendettas.

[@Kathy_Loves_Physics]

Elon Staxäng oh man, Lenard was a hard one for me. He could be charming and helpful and his Physics started off being top notch. In addition, I felt for the guy being at the step right before a major development time after time. And then reading how he fell into madness and fascism was painful. Bleh. Glad this video is over. Ps. What book did you read?

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no such thing as vend or etc

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@@zes3813 huh?

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Wow, didn't know photoelectric effect has such long and interesting story. Thanks kathy

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u failed to mention the part where einstein concluded in a letter to lorentz that the aether must exist.

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My father idolized Albert Einstein; the manner in which you speak about him brought back some incredible memories of my dad. Thank you Kathy.

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That is lovely

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She is the Beethoven of physics explainism, whatever that means. I am always astounded that Einstein understood cosmological forces while believing that the Milky Way was the entire universe. You can have only a tiny sample and still decipher the entire structure. She is doing God's work, which is more than He ever did.

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I just love it all It's a sad story of Lenard's life..and a lesson for all of us.

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Your videos are like gem for us physics students. Thanks a lot.

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You are quite welcome. Glad you like it

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Informative yet entertaining. Well done.

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I studied physics in Heidelberg, when the "Physikalisches Institut" was still in the building they built just for Lenard. One or two of the professors that taught there pointed us to the history that lay behind the walls.

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What a great history! Thanks!

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Excellent presentation! I learned a lot.

[@Kathy_Loves_Physics]

So glad you liked it. This video was one of my most challenging.

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Good job, as usual.

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My Lecturer said that Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize for the photo electric effect in lieu of Relativity, because Relatively was too misunderstood / controversial and was at risk for turning out wrong. So he had to be a Nobel Prize recipient, just Incase relativity, did indeed, turn out to be so revolutionary.

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Thank you!

[@James-bv4nu]

First, the photoelectric effect theory is so logical and obvious, that you would think many physicists would have thought of it. Second, it was, at the time, only a theory, a way of explaining an experimental results; and even an incomplete theory at that. (for example, it did not explain, at the time, how light, being composed of photons, can undergo interference. Whereas positive and negative electric fields can cancel each other resulting in zero light intensity, then how do photons cancel each others.) Yet the Nobel committee deemed it appropriate to award a prize for the photoelectric effect theory. Einstein, of course, deserved the Nobel prize, in fact, probably deserved two or three prizes on his work on special and general relativity.

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Brilliant simple historic perspective on science and the inherent prejudice of scientists. Nobel not so Nobel. Thank you.

[@doncourtreporter]

Lenard's story is a prime example of how hate and jealousy can and has hampered human progress.

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All the scripts with citations are on her web page.

[@tonychinnery]

Its true that Eddington's solar eclipse experiments seemed to confirm Einstein's General Relativity and made Einstein famous, but there is some doubt that as to their accuracy (they had to detect a difference in the order of one hundreth of a millimetre on the photographic plate, the original plates have since been lost). More conclusive was the explanation (within accuracy limits) of the rotation of mercury's orbit. In the popular mind relativity is associated with Einstein, but special relativity was really a team effort. It was put into its final form by Minkovski. Einstein's greatest original idea (as he himself said) was the equivalence principle, though he needed a great deal of mathematical help to arrive at the final theory.

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Thanks

[@neomonk5668]

Thank you for another wonderful video. It sounds like the “ether” idea would fit into QFT. Peace

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Quantum ether.I've read of the idea. Zero point energy could be the culprit.

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Love your storytelling...

[@pukulu]

very interesting bit of physics history. This demonstrates that a scientist, even an accomplished one such as Lenard, can still harbor a personality disorder of such magnitude that he becomes twisted into a grotesque figure.

[@eottoe2001]

Oh, that is why Einstein got the Nobel prize for the photoelectric effect! Thank you explaining that.

[@donaldaxel]

What a strange morale: Lenard felt that his discovery should be "defended" in stead of explained from another viewpoint, and think what would have happened if he had used these discoveries to make radio-telegraphy, or cathode ray "sound"-amplifiers and so on and on. He could have become very respected many ways. So does this story show us that carreer moves in Physics (then - and maybe now?) are hindered by oddities, weird circumstances, greedy capital (like Edison trying to squash alternate current, AC?) ?

[@JoshKaufmanstuff]

@11:15 the "Ether" I've wondered this same thing, if light is a wave, why does it not need a medium to propagate as fluids do? What am I missing?? 🤔

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Awesome story!!! Thanks!!! I loved it :)

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Wonderful video, as are all your others I have seen!

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As far I know, Lenard was judged and condemned by the Trial of Nürnberg, but not executed only thanks to his advanced age.

Amazing video!

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Great video. I didn't know there was that much to the einstien/lenard beef.

[@Kathy_Loves_Physics]

It's funny, I was the other way, all I knew was the end of the Einstein/Lenard beef, I didn't know how Einstein was inspired by Lenard nor that Lenard was initially so inspiring to many before he turned to the dark side (so to speak).

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@@Kathy_Loves_Physics it's crazy what ego's can do to people. Look at max... Planck... He was great but then Leonard...

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I'm subscribed now, I really like learing about physics and the origins are the most fascinating. Greetings from Holland Kathhy!

[@okaro6595]

Actually there was someone on the Nobel committee who was dead set against the relativity so they made a compromise. The statement said: ""for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect." which clearly hints to the relativity without mentioning it.