Kawasaki Ninja H2 SX SE vs. Ninja 1000SX comparison

[@1786crafty]

It's so refreshing to hear balanced discussions which actually consider price. Not like the drivel from British testers. Keep up the great work chaps

[@francishughes3017]

Agreed with the exception of MCN's Neevesy, who is always brilliant. His long term report on the H2 SX and it's weaknesses was also very enlightening.

[@nigelwatts2804]

Very good summary I own a Z1000SX, I think 235kg is enough weight anyway, I wouldn’t want any more, as I’m 73 old , I wish Kawasaki would do a three position seat height adjustment to lower the seat Just like the Honda CB1000A7 i used to ride

[@SOLOMOTOUK]

I’ve just bought the exact same ninja 1000 sx tourer this is my 3rd one now from a 2016 Z1000 sx 21 ninja and now my new one absolutely fantastic bikes from Kawasaki excellent road manners for touring and a blast at the weekends 👍🏍️

[@skimotoch9081]

Interesting. I own and love the 21. What made you change to newer version, and what is the improvement? Did not think there was any mayor change since 21. Thanks and ride safe

[@SOLOMOTOUK]

@@skimotoch9081believe it or not the 21 was black and red I just couldn’t bond with the colour I know it’s strange but true no really any change in riding thank you for replying 👍😎

[@skimotoch9081]

@@SOLOMOTOUK funny enough, there are days when I think I should have gone for black and red 😂. We could have done a straight swap. I‘ll stick to Ninja green fpr now, am just so happy with the N1ksx‘ super smooth engine, that the colour is a minor item. Can‘t wait for the mountains to open after the winter and those twisties to become available again

[@SOLOMOTOUK]

@@skimotoch9081 a swap yes but the colour I have definitely sticking with it well it’s green the team I went out this weekend and done 500 miles at least a quarter was spirted riding 😀 I am 62 nearly 63 years old but ride is fantastic gets my blood going not lost my touch 👍🙏🏍️😎

[@Calam1ty08]

@@SOLOMOTOUK coulda bought the black/green fairing kit?? :D im hoping to get the new 1000sx when i get my full license at end of year :D

[@cibsim]

What a good and excellent video about my Kawasaki Ninja 2000 SX. I feel reassured that I made the right choice for my needs. Thank you to both of you.

[@florme6494]

I purchased the 1000sx not long ago at all. I saw it as a 4 cylinder naked bike with a little wind protection. Having owned the gsxs1000f and zx14r (owned both at the same time) this is the perfect medium. I absolutely love it! Better than my Suzi purely down to the throttle smoothness. Better than the 14r down to comfort. Slower than both, but still way too fast for me and the road. My narrowed down list when searching was (considering I wanted to add a 4 cylinder bike to my collection) 1000sx, gsxs1000 and ninja400zzr. Even though the 1000sx cost more and wasn’t as fun which and maybe lacks character, it really has everything. I got the exhaust, luggage and heated grips. Now it’s perfect for all road occasions. Weekend, daily commute and touring. The suspension is just wow for all three things. Much more forgiving on rough roads than the other 2, while still smashing my expectations in the corners. It is a special bike. The only thing to some is it may lack character when compared to other bikes. The bike also looks much better in real life. I personally would never use the power of the H2 on the street nor would I ever pay the price. But I would really love to experience it. Yes, I’m jealous of all you people who have. The same story for anything that isn’t Japanese which limits the bike that I’ve owned, but that’s what I stubbornly value.

[@LiterFreedom]

What year is your 1000Sx?

[@florme6494]

@@LiterFreedom 2023, why do you ask?

[@Rooz]

Bro stuck in the Ninja marketing. Wait til he learns about the 400, 500, 650, and e1

[@MiguelBorgesphotography]

don't forget the 125

[@CaffeineThrottle]

I think they both have their virtues. I'm leaning towards the Ninja 1000 SX as I know myself to well and feel like I would always be looking for a gas station v on the H2 and my plans do include some very long empty stretches of road in the desert states of USA. A couple of these states you can run the whole state pinned.I strapped a 7.5 gal gas can to my ZX 14 R in the past. It's also sketchy at night,you definitely want to be strapped up. I would love to see you guys do same comparison with the 2025 1100 SX SE.Great review.👍👋💀

[@apox5308]

I owned both bikes and agree completely with the review. They are both very different bikes and there are bits from the 1000sx that I miss when riding the H2 SX like the simplicity of the engine, lighter handling, analogue feel, ability to use all the power most of the time, but the H2 SX when on the move is like an experience on another level and that won it over for me in the end. When you get to 8k on the H2 is literally leaves the 1000sx for dead and it takes a while to adjust to. It’s so fast that you physically can’t use full throttle until you’ve planned ahead and really got yourself ready for it. The handling in the H2 is very good considering its size and weight you can lean and handle it quite close in comparison to the 1000sx. As a touring machine the H2 SX is better all rounder

[@habibi750]

Thanks for sharing your experience with both bikes. Regarding comfort on long rides, which bike would you say was more comfortable?

[@slow88LX]

I love the adjustable windscreen soooo much. It's practically not there for those blazing hot summer days but still directs the air so that you're not getting pulled off the bike. I'm not sure I could ever go back to fixed windscreens.

[@pauldark3044]

The H2sx se, just feels and looks more quality, plus the supercharger and all the tech makes it a easy choice and was the reason i bought one

[@jeanpequignot80]

Congratulations 🎉🎉

[@Supercharged1976]

I've owned a 2012 Ninja 1000 SX and I currently own a 2021 Z H2. I can say without a doubt for an everyday bike the 1000 SX can't be beat. Still one of if not my favorite bike I've ever owned and I've had a lot. Been riding since 1992. My Z H2 doesn't have the body work or the radar of the H2 SX but with a ECU tune, exhaust, and air filter, the H2 family is unbeatable for fun. My bike currently has 227 hp at the wheel with 101 ft./lbs of torque. Side note for those interested in the H2 SX there is currently no ECU flash available for the 2022 and newer. So if you want one and wish to tune it you will need to find a 2018-2021 H2 SX.

[@davidhollman34]

I currently own a 22 1000sx. The frame feels small and feels slow . Would the h2 be an upgrade or just bragging rights? Iv been riding for 35 ish years . 5'11 240 lbs no desire to track

[@Supercharged1976]

@@davidhollman34 Z H2 is not as comfy and no wind protection. The H2 SX would be an upgrade but may feel too big compared to the Ninja 1000. Just be aware if you're planning on getting an H2 family bike to tune and filter the H2 SX 22'-current can not be flashed as one is not available for them yet. You would need a 18'-21' for a ECU flash.

[@24SparrowJack]

can't beat sports tourers comfy and fast

[@clayharrison8889]

I just got a ninja1000sx 2024 model and I love it! The anytime torque and the riding position are great on the ninja1000sx.

[@amococ2487]

I'm sorry, but he's wrong about the "Ninja" name. The Ninja 400 and 650 are far from sports bikes. It's when they put the ZXR in the name that's its a sportsbike

[@brockbaker3able]

No. The ninja is their sport line. Zxr denotes their super sport line.

[@NightSkywalker69]

ZX is Supersport.

[@LiterFreedom]

Man that’s a hard decision to make! Either one of these bikes could be amazing! The one problem I have with the 1000Sx is its weight and side and it’s a much bigger problem with the H2. I’ll stick with the 1000sx for a few years until more upgrades come to both bikes.

[@grimey5.565]

I have the Z H2 SE now and looking forward to in the future getting an H2 SX SE. What a fantastic all-around bike

[@QSpeedRacer]

I had a Ninja 1000 now i have a H2 SX SE+ def great bike. Still comfortable. Gas mileage slightly less but not horrible. I use it long rides and fun rides. In dyno vs dyno the H2 SX makes 40 more wHP. The extra power is nice getting on highways and highway passing. Don't even have to downshift 😅 Ninja 1000 at 510lbs and only 124whp was kind of slow. Slower than zx-6r by decent amount . Slower than my camaro

[@timmythetimeisnearXRP]

Very good comparison. Thank you both.

[@wakajawaka44]

Thanks for that in depth review in English!

[@EvMc305]

I think it's AI!

[@rarekid740]

@@EvMc305 I'm confused are these videos dubbed? where can we we the original?

[@EvMc305]

@@rarekid740 Dubbed or AI.

[@nome5184]

Great video. Love the English version. Keep it up.

[@amitsurve]

There is no reason to buy H2SXSE. Ninja 1000sx is MORE than enough for sports touring.

[@LiterFreedom]

Completely agree…But I’m sure the H2 is just an absolute beast to ride around in!

[@cg1288]

Yeah, but according to the 20 something kid, it's not a real Ninja. I have probably been riding Ninja's longer than he's been alive.

[@kugangles9860]

Well you know dudes want that bragging rite at the local bike night.

[@Prometheus0619]

Of course there is It’s faster

[@regvanwyk8194]

But the 1000SX can't outrun a Honda Civic on the highway. The H2SX can.

[@strawberriesanddeath]

The first guy is bull. The Ninja 1000 sx is the real ninja. That is the only name it has. Besides America" True bikers and kawi fans call the super sports zx10r.

[@michaelfrascati7610]

Great comparison video…from USA! Besides price and extra goodies…big difference in two ergonomically!

[@javierespinosa1587]

Nice interview and conclusions about the two bikes.

[@brockbaker3able]

If you have a 1000sx like me, go see Moore’s mafia to get it tuned. Thank me later. You’ll never get more smiles per mile for under 500 bucks.

[@Lemmon714_]

He flashed mine in February. My bike is stock except for that, Sergeant seat and Murphs risers. Being able to access all of the power is awesome.

[@Lemmon714_]

H2sx is my dream bike. I have a 2015 1000.

[@cokomattekudassai]

How bout urs n1k vibrations ?

[@yiannispittas1619]

Just the information l needed. Great job . Thanks for helping me decide. The H2 then it is....

[@martinhughes9769]

What’s a zee ,it’s a zed single letter Z ,I own one from new a 2017 SX great bike thats why I still own it , really need something upright age is against me , not sure what to buy looked around at Triumph Tiger range but when I look at the forums lots of customers not happy with the Triumphs warranty poor customer service, may even buy a new SX 1000, I wish Kawasaki would put more colours back in to the bike like all SX models have a black petrol tank , I could fit some bar raisers🤔 , enjoyed the review ,

[@kalhanratty1]

Z is pronounced "zee" in North America. Guess that's the english they chose to translate to.

[@thecornishbiker9323]

Would be great if they brought out a zxr750 with a supercharger. 160 170 bhp and lightish. More super chargers please kawasaki

[@blackk1UK]

Both are great bikes and either would be a great choice but the H2 SX SE can do things the 1000SX can only dream of. Yes the H2 SX SE is more expensive but you only live once and what is money for if not to buy the better things in life. I had a new H2 SX SE in 2019 and have just taken delivery of a '24 H2 SX SE. There really is nothing else that gets close to delivering what that bike delivers.

[@ozzyserb]

Thanks guys. I need to, reluctantly, replace GTR 1400 and that's what brought me here. H2 is an option, but that chain... OMG.

[@schemkesa]

I've ridden the 1000SX and it's a really great bike for the money. I was a bit disappointed by the electronics and the display. Suspension and cornering is great. Also the engine is great. Finally I chose the bmw S1000XR that's just a more premium bike

[@escanor9920]

The S1000XR more premium than the H2SXSE !? 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣 You clearly don't know much about bikes and apparently you're more into "showing off" with a brand than riding... Kawasaki is light years away (and better of course) than BMW when it comes to reliability ! And the H2SXSE absolutely don't have to blush when it comes to power, especially with its compressor. You may like the BMW better and I can respect that, but it will never be more premium than a Japanese bike and especially not the H2 (equipped with brembo stylema etc).

[@MiguelRPD]

How is the ninja light years ahead ? (Serious)

[@kalhanratty1]

@@escanor9920 he was comparing the BMW to the Ninja 1000SX, not the H2SX

[@ivanskucins7883]

Very nice video. Thanks chaps!👌🏻

[@xclent1975]

Thank you for dubbing this to English

[@petersmith9470]

Turbo's on bikes in the 80's were great fun, change down for a corner and all of a sudden the bikes accelerated and you're off to hospital in a hurry.

[@ninji5226]

Luckily the choice will be easy for me, I just cant afford (or don't want to afford) the H2. My next bike will will probably be a Ninja sx, its such a jack of all trades and oddly enough actually looks better with the panniers imo.

[@giovanniricci2869]

Both excellent bikes, the sx more realistically made for normal people/ roads, still, I miss the 1400 zzr package ✌️

[@balajisrinivasan8132]

Great review! Thanks!

[@WolfgangVonKempelen838]

You "ride" a bike, not "drive" a bike. Just helping to get it right guys. Great review by the way

[@encefla0n]

I drive it.

[@douglasgrosch228]

ill take my concours 14 plenty for me.. it still handles in twisties as good as that Ninja sx.. just get suspension done .

[@billh4301]

You are one in a million if you think the giant Concours handles as well as the Ninja sx.

[@goodday126]

I was shocked to see the penalty for speeding in Switzerland. Baron Von Grumble almost lost his license and had to pay thousands of Euros for the first offense. Be careful...

[@davidreed6817]

Good review, fantastic roads and beautiful scenery, there is no winner, there is no loser, it's whatever one you choose, I have a gorgeous ZZR1400 but I'd love the supercharged bike alongside it in the garage.

[@Frank-xo7zj]

Thorough review...when referring to the z in the Kawasaki line...the z is referred to as zed..

[@Mikaeel84]

Not in America

[@PeteAnda]

Service costs are crazy on both, however I am in the stupidity central (UK). Less weight wins for me. Great review thank you.

[@lold6130]

I believe the SX is nearer to 132 bhp at the rear wheel.

[@jimclarke1108]

Excellent comparison , explained perfectly🏎

[@theguvnorjasonwareham]

I have owned both 2022 sx and now have a 2023 h2sxse ... the h2 is an awesome machine ... price be damned I wanted it so I got it lol 😆

[@kalhanratty1]

HAHAHA, I haven't been able to get over the price yet.

[@philipbassett5129]

Since there’s nowhere in Switzerland that you can ride at above 60mph without the risk of a colossal fine, I would have thought that test was pretty irrelevant no? Maybe that’s why the Ninja 1000SX’s engine is described as having no vibes anywhere, the uncomfortable, tingling vibrations only set in at a cruising 70mph +

[@kleinbottled79]

Didn't understand that guy freaking out about Kawi naming this liter bike a Ninja. He insists its the name of the 'supersport' models. Is this a European thing? I could have sworn the pure sportbike lineup was named ZX. ZX-4R ZX-6R ZX-10R. Where the softer, more upright, street oriented line is the Ninja line. Ninja 500 Ninja 650 Ninja 1000. And it's typical for the ninjas to have a naked version. Someone correct me if I'm wrong!

[@awakeadventurer9198]

I had a '20 or '21 H2 SX SE+ and traded it in after 3 weeks for a '21 R1250GS. The H2 was NOT sport touring comfort. You sit very high ON TOP of it. Leaned way forward. My Hope was that the electronic suspension that was adjustable was going to be plush enough to make this a comfortable bike not just a fun bike but unfortunately I was wrong. I tried everything but it was like a rock. I also came to realize i dont like supercharged bikes. NA for me. I used to ride sport bikes and loved them until i couldnt ride in that position fir long anymore. I had hoped the H2 was going to be a great n fun inbetween. It was not. I went back to a GS. It was heaven and still a blast innthe twisties and straight line rush. Quirky looking but worth it. I hope the new H2 SX SE has been updated and adjusted for actually being used for sporty touring in at least some comfort.

[@anthonylee5003]

Brilliant guys, first time seeing your videos. I've owned both bikes & yes very different but you get what you pay for. Currently I've the 2018 h2sx se Amazing. Thank you

[@scarreefty]

I’ve ridden the H2 and if u like sore wrists get it

[@jargontaka]

Why would it be sore

[@scarreefty]

@@jargontaka Cause of the riding position Few reviewers say same thing

[@Prometheus0619]

I own the H2 SX SE and done plenty of 500 mile days without sore wrists

[@scarreefty]

@@Prometheus0619 that’s cool ! how old are you ?

[@Prometheus0619]

@@scarreefty 40

[@blueovalOdell]

Zx-14R for the win 🏆

[@EvMc305]

I disagree with the naked comparison for the 1000sx. It's frame is derived from a zx10r as is its engine. I own one that's got every single ad on youcan imagine. (Glad I don't live in Switzerland😂). It's quite a nice bike.

[@escanor9920]

I think you're right but perhaps he made the comparison with a naked because of the "elevated" handlebar (like a naked) on the SX with a more upright position compared to the H2SXSE who seems to have a sportbike handlebar.

[@dave4148]

The engine is NOT derived from the zx, it is quite different. it actually shares its engine with the versys 1000.

[@EvMc305]

@@dave4148 you are correct, I believe my confusion comes from it using the 10R frame from 05/06. But I may be incorrect there as well

[@Mazafaka77]

so stupid...

[@MiamiJato]

owned both, H2 much better and way faster once flashed ECU, the Ninja 100sx has a super choppy throttle that has to be flashed to smooth it out, believe me....

[@Prometheus0619]

Exactly

[@slow88LX]

That sounds like a one-off problem. You are the only person who says that. Mine is butter smooth, and I haven't even flashed it for my full exhaust yet.

[@scottmatzeder9162]

They are both wrong. One example of their wrong`s is the Concours 14, it by spec`s, fit`s squarely into the Ninja Category, but it does not bear the Ninja Badge!

[@leviefrauim1425]

H2 is just overkill. Ninja 1000 for the win. Don't even have to watch the video to know that.

[@Diaszurana]

UNTRUE, SIR!!!!!! I will not say nothing as you disrespect the awesome H2 SX. For the record, the 1000 is actually pretty smooth, though😊

[@johnvif]

Futuristic bike, it will continue to be regarded as updated for many many years. H2 is a good long term investment

[@grimey5.565]

Ha! I have the Z H2 the are Overkill but they are fantastic bikes to ride and you won't know until you do so. The power band is like nothing you've ever ridden I can promise you that.

[@anthdci]

The 1000sx is missing some nice tech like the radar cruise control, the blind spot detection warning, turning lights etc. I’m starting to consider the h2 for the tech alone. Kawasaki needs to mash them together and put the nice tech on the 1000sx too, that would be perfect.

[@Reubs-qs2rg]

@@grimey5.565Z H2 is a very different bike to the H2 SX SE. You don’t tour on a Z H2 for a start. My brilliant bike mechanic will vouch for that - he owns a Z H2 and we had many conversations when I take my H2 SX SE in. Definitely not an overkill and the best bike I’ve ever owned.

[@MrKamechan]

Great review. However, you needed to include the gsx1000gt.

[@MrWhiteTank]

Why? This is obviously a review between 2 Kawasaki models. 🤔

[@MrKamechan]

@@MrWhiteTank I think it would've been interesting, that's all, (I have a feeling that Suzuki is stealing a lot of Ninja 1000 sales....).

[@MrWhiteTank]

@@MrKamechan I believe there is a video were they do compare the Kawasaki and Suzuki. They ended up choosing Kawasaki as the better choice

[@MrKamechan]

@@MrWhiteTank Yes, I believe MCN chose the Ninja over the Suzuki as well. But from what I see locally, the GT is more popular. I've seen a few on the road ... but I've never seen a Ninja

[@drblast]

Interesting and very well done dub over in English.

[@sayaawal4189]

R1 (2024)

[@superduperkid3143]

The Ninja name argument is stupid. That's a nerd argument for die hard fanboys. Most people don't actually give a damn if ninja is in the name or not.

[@estevangarcia2690]

Prost. Team Green.

[@MalShakur]

This guy is silly. That SX is more "Ninja" than many of the Ninjas in yesrs past.

[@martingilbert1419]

Commentaires de merdes, deux motos avec des prix très différents, le petit blond qui a 20 ans et qui connait tout, bravo1

[@kwakithailand]

With any of these Kwakis you're absolutely torturing yourself in Switzerland (without racing circuits) as well as on Swiss roads 🤷

[@EvMc305]

Are they that strict?!? What a bunch of ....ies

[@kwakithailand]

@@EvMc305 prison time bike/cage confiscated penalty calculated based on income. They caught me (35 years ago, back when them fascists were still rather tolerant) 38 km/h above the limit Autobahn limit: 1,200.- CHF ticket, payable cash on the spot 😁

[@EvMc305]

@@kwakithailand so sorry. Here us still the land the free but not like it used to be. The fascists are now a bunch of gen z bots and beta males. They couldn't ride a bike if their life depended on it. I can't believe how people think this is "freedom"

[@kwakithailand]

​@@EvMc305a bike is still a bit of "freedom", especially when compared to a cage 😂 Them fascists are the reason I moved, *NEVER* shall I return 😁

[@tomg6284]

Splitting hairs, who cares what it's called. Look at the v-strom 800 It is a p twin. Folks are all worked over that too. It is a motorcycle nuff said.

[@Mazafaka77]

Тощий такой смешной

[@skillet1033]

H2 has brembo

[@anonymous-tn6ij]

Too funny, his voice isn’t matching what he’s saying and his head doesn’t match his body. This guy looks like a toy story cartoon.

[@flask2910]

Some of the worst camera graphics I’ve seen in years