Kawhi Leonard's beef with the Spurs was the feud nobody expected | Part One

It’s incredible how much Kawhi Leonard fit the San Antonio Spurs' ethos. A reclusive team-first superstar, who rarely showed emotions and only cared about hooping. San Antonio is a model franchise that’s often been called bland, boring, or as I like to say - sauceless but whatever you wanna call them, their success on the court has spoken volumes.
On paper, Kawhi and the Spurs were a match made in heaven who appeared to be locked in with each other until the end of time. Except, the relationship that seemed to be unbreakable from the outside ultimately deteriorated behind the scenes, resulting in a messy divorce. But to truly appreciate the tenderness of this beef you have to understand that it’s arguably the most improbable feud that occurred in NBA history.
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[@SecretBaseSBN]

Itching for some more Kawhi beef? Well lucky for you we like to keep our viewers well-fed, so make sure to check out part two of this tasty beef! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ3TqnZoYtqFq7M

[@uncreative5766]

The fact that Kawhi has beef with the Spurs was heartbreaking. He was the next man up after Duncan, and it shattered the line of succession in San Antonio.

[@mirandamcendree5164]

pp

[@JovaTheHutt]

Fr man. At least our future is looking bright, wish we didn’t lose Primo tho

[@2500spartan]

And now he's ruining another team.

[@hubertsumlin9697]

The one guy who didn't like playing for Pop. That says a lot in my opinion. I don't know what Kawhi's about any more than the rest but I'm glad he was never on a team I cared for. I just don't like the vibes, something is off with the dude.

[@MarkLaw13]

@@2500spartan is he Mordaforker or you just jealous?

[@samortmann5003]

Can we please get a Michael Jordan vs. Isiah Thomas beef history? They still hate each other's guts to this day.

[@hjluke4807]

That episodes needs to have Magic in there too. Bird should also be involved. Not to mention everybody else on the Bulls, Celtics and Lakers.

[@Blastback8]

@@hjluke4807 so isiah vs everybody?

[@thedragontactic]

There is no beef for MJ. He does not care.

[@hjluke4807]

@@Blastback8 kinda. I'm not adding Knicks fans to that list even though I really can.

[@migamaos3953]

@@thedragontactic MJ holds grudges against random fans and ballboys, u know he still holds one against Isiah lol

[@gpk_tk]

You know this cut of beef is huge when this is just Part One... 👀

[@trendel13]

The roast beef is buy one get one free.

[@JRLim105]

Split into two parts for load management

[@wazzup233]

I could hear Kawhi's laugh somewhere. 🤣

[@Daiton45]

I genuinely believe had Zaza not have stepped under Kawhi's landing and caused his injury, the Spurs could have made the Finals that year. The Spurs were on fire that season and they seemed to match up very well against the Warriors even with their three headed monster of KD, Klay and Steph. They had a 2-1 record over the Warriors during the regular season that included two blowout wins and that first game of the WCF seemed to be another big win until Zaza changed fate. A real shame honestly, I genuinely believed that season would be the start of the Spurs' championship era with Kawhi as the superstar.

[@brianlara6451]

I’m a dubs fan. I was watching this game at work. I agree. The spurs were the team I thought had the best chance to beat the dubs.

[@Riles3152]

I remember watching that game. The Warriors had probably the most talented team in the history of the NBA in 2017 with the addition of Kevin Durant, and the best player on the floor up until Zha Zha’s foot happened, was clearly Kawai Leonard. I was so pissed seeing those front running Warriors get back into the game without the Spurs clear best player. That should have been a 6-7 game series with a healthy Kawai.

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

That has to be the most extrapolated 28 minute sample size in the history of the NBA. Yeah the Spurs had them beat… for one game. But it’s a best of 7 series. The regular season and Playoffs are different but even if you want to use that, one of those wins was with their first game ever with KD. And one of the regular season matches, KD was injured. So can we please add some context?

[@paperhag]

@@goldenstatewarriors9418 It's honestly not much different than how Warriors fans extrapolate KD's 10 minutes of playtime in the finals vs the Raptors. Not only that the Raptors swept the Warriors in the regular season even with KD! So you guys cant have it both ways. Kawhi was a killer in that series and we will never know what the result would have been if he and Tony Parker had not been injured.

[@denistuohy2535]

@@paperhag that’s not true they’re not similar at all. Spurs fans and third party fans think “hey the Spurs owned them all year and matched up well it could’ve gone the distance.” Warriors fans just outright refuse to accept the possibility that they lose to Toronto.

[@CambriaBold]

As a man from Toronto, I am not going to complain about this particular beef.

[@T-Swerve03]

Was scrolling for this exact comment 😂

[@MoniqueXSM]

LOOOL

[@LokNex915]

Be grateful that the Spurs traded Kawhi to y’all without him that 2019 championship doesn’t happen

[@sohhyuna]

@@LokNex915 as a huge Raps fan, you are absolutely correct. Why do you say it like it’s a negative thing though? Masai made the move knowing that was our franchise’s best chance at winning our first championship. Lo and behold, we won in ‘19.

[@kushmaster210]

Ya hope that 1 hit wonder was Worth it

[@LeeGHThomas]

The Zaza incident was very very understated in this video seeing how blatantly intentional it was and how Zazas name became synonymous for dirty players in the league.

[@kaz7690]

I don't care about Zaza, but you must be a conspirator worse than JFK's death to think Zaza could assassinate Kawhi's foot with that precision

[@llamalitany]

@@kaz7690 doesn't take a ton of precision to undercut someone and get all up in their landing space... I don't think it's as clear-cut as Thomas does, but that last little shuffle he does to really get underneath Kawhi does look pretty bad.

[@rudyardganuelas6254]

@@llamalitanyalso when that happened once before, it throws off your shooting motion when you have to worry if you have landing space

[@tyler3876]

His laugh shook the nation.

[@samortmann5003]

*Nations.

[@dusttaker]

which one?

[@jasonsandhu3760]

Just Canada !!

[@musyarofah1]

"Kawhi Leonard's 2018 Raptors Introduction Press Conference Deserves a Rewind"

[@Nick-ty3dg]

"the nation" standard american

[@JackT-7]

Part 2 better be all about how Uncle Dennis was the cause of this whole beef. This WHOLE situation start when Leonard hired his Uncle as his agent. And hopefully they bring up Uncle Dennis extremely shady past and his attempts to use Leonards name for his own profit.

[@dookierubber3345]

​@Shaikoh not quite, the media can twist alot of things but a past set in stone like Dennis can't be denied

[@thetexanshurtme]

As a Spurs fan, I will never forgive Uncle Dennis for what he did. There is just no way that the Spurs, the team that pioneered load management, would ever mismanage the injury of their star player

[@assassin923ck45]

I always thought pop was WAY too good of a coach to potentially ruin his next superstar by rushing him back from an injury. That’s just not what he does.

[@elijahjoseph6365]

Damn Im impressed you can type with all that dickriding your partaking in

[@chase9340]

This a bad idea because her we are 3 years later and he still having some issues with said leg. Whatever happen seems to have started in with the spurs regardless of how good there track record is🤷🏾‍♂️

[@joeyportia6476]

@@assassin923ck45 Then explain why their medical staff messed up the diagnoses of Danny Green AND Pau Gasol. They misdiagnosed Danny Green’s groin injury. And they also misdiagnosed Pau’s stress fracture as simply a sore foot. You can separate the Spurs from their medical team. Their medical team wasn’t perfect like everyone thinks.

[@coruscant100]

He and Zaza are to blame. Zaza is a coward and rather than lose with dignity, he chose to injure someone and win in a dirty manner.

[@deantackett2059]

As a mavs fan I never imagined things would go down like they did between Kawhi and San Antonio. I thought the dude would be in a Spurs Jersey the rest of his career.

[@persistentlypathetic6820]

4 years later and Kawhi is still load managing even more so.

[@rickyrobby8133]

What’s your point?

[@39872adnan]

@@rickyrobby8133 he made it. Stop defending Kawhi’s load management nonsense.

[@rickyrobby8133]

@@39872adnan he didn’t make a point at all actually. And San Antonio INVENTED load management.

[@reee_4067]

The injury never healed properly, Spurs mismanaged it somehow

[@39872adnan]

@@rickyrobby8133 talking bout you Ricky Booo….errrr Robby. Shake n’ Bake!

[@pruney84]

Basically Zaza single handedly (or footedly...) ended the Spurs

[@joselarios6848]

Bruce Bowen ended the spurs way before that. Lmfao karma

[@malcorub]

and Zaza won a championship for Toronto.

[@youreokayboah2128]

@@malcorub He won a championship for himself first Bud

[@Chandasouk]

I still hate Zaza for this crap. Kawhi being shipped off to Toronto and winning a chip there was bittersweet. Demar was a cool guy on the team and had some nice playmaking but the team didn't have much playoff success after that. There's a pretty good podcast called The Fall of Spurs Dynasty and covering this part as well.

[@andresdelportillo9917]

Demar defrozen

[@Chandasouk]

@@andresdelportillo9917 lol I used to say "DeChosen"

[@a-part]

All my homies hate Zaza . F**k him.

[@joselarios6848]

Zaza just reminding y’all of Bruce Bowen

[@One.Zero.One101]

Yeah Zaza knew what he was doing. These athletes are some of the most coordinated people on Earth. He stuck his foot 1 meter under Kawhii's landing spot, there's no way he wasn't aware of that.

[@dbsuper2928]

I rewatch this channels catalogue to help me fall asleep at night.. never miss a Secret Base upload

[@davegibbions3878]

Miss beef history so much. Keep on making em!

[@stiglapoint5672]

As a Spurs fan I’m just heartbroken how we and Kawhi handled the damn situation and now we are in our rebuilding phase without him which sucks

[@jaysinleigh]

We're better off without him- look at the way he's treated the Raptors and Clippers. He's shown his true colors- he wears the number 2 because he's a p.o.s.

[@razkable]

Kawhi got you a title and 2 finals almost 2 titles..it is what it is

[@piggynice18]

@@razkablehe didn’t “get” us a title. He helped as a teammate. Dont forget that Spurs never won without its franchise player Tim Duncan

[@jamesmarshall6619]

I remember when Derrick Rose was going through his injury and some people were questioning his toughness and I remember this entire time of Leonard's injury. Here is the thing about injuries and why teammates or media members should keep quiet unless they know more, our bodies don't respond the same way every time. Just because Parker had the same injury doesn't mean Leonard's body would respond the same way, our bodies are incredibly complicated, just because the vast majority of bodies may respond to a certain injury one way means very little for any specific person. Parker showing once again as a teammate, he wasn't exactly Bill Russell.

[@ulipeterson6112]

Well said.

[@duhGOATman]

Totally agree, Parker being a smaller guy i would think he would recover a lot better than a guy who is much more built and taller. Not to mention some people process nutrients a lot better than others.

[@maurygoldblat8982]

Wrong. Parker only spoke because pop told him to. Parker was the gunman, pop hired the hit. And Kawhi deserved it. He quit on the team long before this comment. He was being shady because he was leaving. He quit on the team and he is a scumbag traitor. That's it. Leonard is 100% to blame for this. Him and his uncle Dennis

[@hashbrown4278]

@@maurygoldblat8982cry more. Kawhi isn’t a traitor there’s no allegiance to the spurs😂. And kawhi won it in the end going to the raptors winning a title and going home to l.a like he wanted. Spurs on the other hand faded into obscurity and stayed there. Even now with the # 1 pick generational talent they’re a mess and wouldn’t surprise me if he leaves when his rookie contract is coming up

[@DonLee1980]

The Zaza incident was heart breaking for Kawhi, and shameful for the GSW franchise. That injury was career changing. Tho the league now kind of protects players, saying that its a foul if you intrude someone's landing space. As a team that was already totally stacked, to resort to such dirty play and unsportsmanship is just downright low.

[@yungslic5363]

I would have beat Zaza azz! Ain't no way that stepping in Kawhi's landing space wasn't intentional I'm glad Kawhi got payback in Toronto

[@brianlara6451]

Kawhi in Toronto showed how great he was. At one point raptors were down 0-2 to sixers and kawhi was banged up. All I remember thinking is that kawhi has them right where he wants them

[@paperhag]

You mean the Bucks?

[@franklee88]

Raptors were behind 2-1 against the 76ers. It's the Bucks they were behind 0-2 against.

[@stackhat8624]

you;re kinda forgetting that the warriors were in bad shape with Klay and KD injured.

[@Firefenex1996]

He showed how great he was woth the spurs too its just that nobody outside of San antonio watches spurs games lol.

[@MyUniqueHandle.]

@@stackhat8624 so? 3rd highest scoring playoff run in nba history. Thats greatness no matter how you look at it.

[@bangaamen501]

I've been waiting on this one especially with what's going on with kawhi Leonard right now this man has been protected from the media long enough 😂😂😂😂 in all seriousness let's go beef history you guys are my favorites

[@jlolopez9623]

He had surgery on his knee and first year back and you say the media is protecting him. The media is protecting him because he doesn't talk and offend people. He minds his own business and doesn't look for fights. He isn't an exhibitionist. People including the media don't like people with big mouths.

[@bangaamen501]

@@jlolopez9623 I know I was only joking when I said that he's really unproblematic and that's part of the reason the media hates him they want to make something out of nothing always

[@sohhyuna]

Very true. Although there’s no real reason to hate on Kawhi, I think a fair share of criticism goes a long way. Then again, I don’t think Kawhi cares. Bro is playing pro ball more part-time than Kyrie 😂

[@bangaamen501]

@@sohhyuna kawhi is chilling 😂😂

[@powerbadpowerbad]

@@bangaamen501 Yes,he is.The Clippers were dumb enough to let him-SLIDE-that's on them.

[@dannyhernandez265]

It’s crazy how Pachuila altered the Spurs. I believe if Kawhi had never been injured, things would have been different for the spurs to this day.

[@justmaxproductions]

if this beef requires multiple parts MJ vs IT or Kobe vs Shaq is gonna be a feature length movie

[@teen_laqueefa]

I like your channel

[@justmaxproductions]

@@teen_laqueefa thanks

[@teen_laqueefa]

@@justmaxproductions no problem, thanks for your work

[@RaziuddinAhmed]

Kawhi " I am a fun guy " Leonard

[@musyarofah1]

Kawhi "Ehuehuehuehuehue" Leonard

[@demorik6794]

It's crazy his weakness in college was offense and now his bag is immense.

[@MedroffYT]

He was next after Duncan left. This was sad.

[@Ans67890]

Crazy how Kawhi in his prime gave a pretty heavy challenge to the warriors with the spurs but without him they got swept

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

Leonard is pretty much Golden States daddy.

[@joeydirt69]

bro made a career out of being a part time nba player. god bless

[@goldinger80]

It was about the injury. Kawhi embellished it to work his way towards playing and living in Los Angeles full-time

[@havesomefaitharthur9020]

Love that they’re covering fresh beef too, puts the whole story in perspective

[@Msizyke41]

Zaza 100% did it on purpose, I felt murderous when I watched it live

[@islandvibes9076]

Bet. It was disgusting and, as a Spurs fan, I still haven't forgiven him.

[@jbtreshawn]

@@islandvibes9076 kawhi winning that chip against golden state gave me everything I wanted

[@billcosby668]

Despite being on one of the most talented teams ever, Zaza still felt the need to pull that. That’s as low you can get, especially that it worked.

[@redred1952]

Yea I broke my TV when that happened.

[@joselarios6848]

Bruce Bowen sends his regards sperm fans 😂

[@yoboinicossman]

If Vince Carter vs Toronto can be over a half hour long, I need Part 2 *ASAP!!!!!*

[@brianfitzsimmons6074]

I mean...there better be. Nothing was addressed related to the beef. This one was borderline clickbait to be honest...

[@yoboinicossman]

@@brianfitzsimmons6074 exactly.

[@jah2827]

The way Kawhi betrayed the Spurs annoyed me so much, and then the way he left Toronto was even more confusing for me lmao

[@grinningchicken]

Walked out on the spurs walked out on the raptors and is sitting out with the clippers

[@aaronghunter]

Toronto made more sense to me, because he spent a lot of time evaluating his team, and I think he had to know how lucky they were to get through Philadelphia and then the Warriors.

[@grinningchicken]

@@aaronghunter He had endorsements for life in Toronto and the face of the franchise. In California hes one stars along with 1001 others.

[@specialwhenlit8435]

@Jah If it was just all about basketball, Kawhi would have never left the Spurs from the jump. He and Uncle Dennis were trying to force their way to L.A., Pop and the Spurs said "We won't be held hostage like that" and turned down decent offers from both the Lakers and Clips to ship Kawhi to Canada. Salary cap-wise, him and Danny for Demar, Jakob and a pick was the best match on the market. Kudos to Masai for constructing a legit squad in need of one more piece to the puzzle, but title or no, Kawhi and Dennis were moving back to L.A., it was their plan since at least before the 2017-18 preseason.

[@N_tonio36]

I'll never get over how he left the Spurs. The team pretty much fell apart afterwards.

[@brushylake4606]

When stars of that magnitude leave teams, they generally do worse. Look at Cleveland post Bron. The Spurs were still a playoff team. They actually did pretty well all things considered.

[@tannermeeks7120]

@@brushylake4606 well, they added derozan who was an all star and all nba. They went from 2nd seed to like 8th. Cavs didn’t add anybody in LeBrons departure

[@ivaneurope]

This beef has to be so spicy to warrant 2 parts at least. It's going to be fun.

[@Blesscalade]

It still hurts to this day…💔 But seeing how he hardly plays with the Clippers now makes me feel a lot better about the situation 😅

[@Henry-kv7zl]

That's not how you should look at it. Respect the man's health

[@Blesscalade]

@@Henry-kv7zl bro, he’s getting paid SO much to sit on the bench season after season…. That’s not normal at any job lol

[@LeafyPeach]

@@Blesscalade it's funny hating on someone to the degree you're glad he can't play due to health.

[@Blesscalade]

@@LeafyPeach no, I’m saying that he’s using his health as a front.

[@LeafyPeach]

@@Blesscalade it's not a front. Man's got messed up legs.

[@JaskellK]

His Uncle created that rift. I remember buying a Kawhi jersey right before he peaked. I knew he was going to be huge for the Spurs. Such a gut wrench the turmoil he caused with the team. Going to the games and not seeing him on the bench, yet he can attend baseball games just created more confusion for fans. He lost my respect totally after all that. Also, yes, I still have the jersey lol.

[@rickyrobby8133]

No he didn’t. It’s crazy that people will just ignore what people have actually said because they THINK something. Players have said for close to a DECADE that playing under Pop is really hard because of the way he talks to players. Treating them like they’re dumb. They ALL say it was Duncan keeping them in line because he was okay with his coaching style, it was inevitable that it’d fall apart because the likelihood the next guy after Duncan would be okay with it was low. You can’t treat NBA stars like they’re children and expect everyone to be okay with it. When you have an all-time great who is fine, then everyone will follow, if that isn’t there then people rebel.

[@wutbitch420]

@@rickyrobby8133tell us more of how you heard those exact things in the locker room… or was it just stephe Jackson on all the smoke telling u that? 😂

[@scottsanderson4310]

@@wutbitch420 HA and youre just a salty spurs fanboy so I wonder what your, not at all biased, perspective on the situation is going to be like 😂

[@rickyrobby8133]

@@wutbitch420 or just how he has talked to every media person ever for thirty years…

[@therealpvc2541]

@@wutbitch420 muhamad stack is still ungrateful. The spurs gave him his only ring.

[@azma775]

I’ll never shake my belief that if the zaza didnt step on Kawhi foot they would have gone off to win that series and the finals . It’s crazy

[@Gillz34]

As a raptor fan we are so grateful to have had him on our team😁

[@bmac4]

"Part one" Dayum this a whole ass rack of ribs

[@holstorrsceadus1990]

Hope you guys load managed enough to make it to the end of the video

[@KIDTV-qe2dm]

Kawhi Leonard's Press Conference Laugh deserves a Rewind.

[@DigitaIJustice]

I’m a new fan and have wanted to know this story from you guys. Didn’t disappoint.

[@mattypaul87]

Getting my Raptors a ring is why I happily enjoy this huge rack of beef.

[@saulvigil8053]

So excited to see the rest of the series unfold!

[@dmw0077]

Excellent video! I think Kawhi is the quintessential introvert and wanted/wants no part of being a leader for any team...anywhere...anytime. He wants to be the best he can be, for sure, but worrying about others and trying to lead them to greatness (a la Tim, Tony or Manu) was/is something he wanted no part of, no matter what the rest of the NBA world thought during his Spurs days, or thinks now. He's at his best when he can be himself, and should just be judged accordingly, rather than harshly simply because he did/does not try to live up to others' expectations.

[@brennanrobillard3046]

I think when he’s on the court he leads by example and how to do things at a high level that his teammates follow on the court.

[@AirRusher1992]

I feel like Zaza deserve part of the blame as for why all of this has to happen to San Antonio imo.

[@firefistace2024]

Well, the Spurs also have one dirty former player before, small forward too, like Kawhi. As far as I remember, he is the one who is trying to injure Steve Nash before. I don't know if the Spurs tolerate that, but if they did, then I think they deserve the karma.

[@eddietheaggie2010]

Another infuriating aspect of this beef (from a Spurs fan perspective) was that when SA *tried* to say ok you know what? You're hurt, let's put you on IR for the season, Kawhi's camp strung them along. They'd give the Spurs dates for his return, then blow past them and just kinda shrug. That's the context of Manu saying "we fell for it a week ago again" (12:00 mark). The team/his teammates were desperately trying to hold down the fort for a playoff seed and hoping Leonard's return would bring the relief/contention, but Leonard's camp was playing the Spurs' organization the whole time. SA tried to take him at his word and shut him down, but Kawhi didn't want that, either, just wanted to keep everyone in limbo and drag SA med staff's name through the mud in the process. Him and his uncle are shady dudes.

[@OrionOodama]

I'm with you. Thanks for the chutzpah bringing this up.

[@maurygoldblat8982]

Hes a traitor

[@demaurimitchell3167]

FINALLY THE YEARS WEVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EXACT BEEF HISTORY

[@felipereyes4678]

Damn yall seriously reopened my wounds again 😔😔

[@Anthony-nd6vk]

People thought the Spurs were crazy…but look at what’s happening now with the Clippers.

[@youngspitty6001]

Clipper fan here, he just came off one of the most brutal injury in sports. He's 31 years old and has a injury history. happy for him to take he's time and get the knee right.

[@abdlldajani3528]

@@youngspitty6001 😂

[@hombredetacos]

@@youngspitty6001 ain’t happening 😊

[@LeafyPeach]

@@hombredetacos 🤨

[@johncrowley3322]

Aye chill Kawhi is a alltime great 2 rings and finals mvps Kawhi is top 20-or so all time

[@JC4.80]

Wow. I feel old this is the first one I can say I truly remember. A player beef against his own team.

[@malcorub]

LOL, this only happened 5 years ago.

[@JC4.80]

@@malcorub still feels weird for me this being the first one of these I can truly recall.

[@janto3759]

Looking at the thumbnail I 100% thought at Kawhi was beefing with a mascot

[@wazzup233]

Nah I think the mascot is beefing a bat 🦇

[@wilkic2]

The more time goes on the more I sympathize with the spurs. Kawhi seems to always be playing less than he should

[@jlolopez9623]

So he's not injured and just faking it? Yeah right. He's been faking it all the post spurs years.

[@jbmp1390]

Just a reminder that Tony Parker chose to cheat on Eva Longoria. I still struggle to believe that that level of stupidity is actually possible.

[@fathimohamud5207]

U guys need make more videos like this, I’ve literally watched everything.

[@eythimissmith9468]

13 minutes in...no beef ...3 interuptions for commercials...wtf??

[@specialwhenlit8435]

For Spurs fans, that's the tragedy of it, it was a perfect match between team, player, culture and community. Kawhi was seemingly so like Timmy, even Manu said they could be father and son.

[@lenin25]

As a spurs supporter and a basketball fan”…I would never forgive zaza pachulia for his dirty play on leonard , i really felt like san antonio could beat the warriors that year

[@MadMrMatter]

Ya know, all in all, the Spurs handled the situation pretty well. I'm a Mavs fan and it pains me that I'm complimenting the Spurs... 🤮

[@chrisolds4786]

As Bulls fan. I like the way Spurs play. Team ball

[@AlexGreat87]

I love your series, by any chance, could you do something about Senna and Prost beef in F1? I know it would be out of the sports you have covered, but racing beef is just pretty tasty

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

I left comments before in their community regarding possible videos on racing There’s so much they could potentially dive in

[@drewkaufman8982]

love these. Secret Base does great work. Flood of memories ensue .

[@killercook2656]

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer the lady who normally does these over whoever's doing the voice here.

[@cdgates1]

Popovich is the greatest NBA coach. Ever since 2014 every team that has been to the finals (except the bubble) has been Pop affiliated

[@kgSoloMan5k]

Another beautiful job, Secret Base.

[@leftenantthunder]

This was such a weird, mysterious beef. I still really dont know why things collapsed so quickly and bitterly

[@tuckerrobbins9592]

This might be the best vid SB has dropped yet, great stuff

[@austenwhitebeard4008]

“Sauceless” it’s humanly impossible to describe the spurs better than that. Well said sir

[@miyoy21]

As a spurs fan...i was heartbroken...until the last 3 years where is doing the same thing again...still a fan...only slightly heartbroken now...

[@jlolopez9623]

Doing the same thing? You mean like getting injured? Having surgery again?

[@NoAimBuckaroo]

I miss prime Kawhi😢

[@jusone4271]

He's never going to be the same player again. It's pretty clear to see. Such a shame....

[@Chandasouk]

2019 playoff run was insane

[@optimusprime4263]

he is still that dude. averaged 29ppg in the playoffs for the clippers. he just needs to be healthy

[@jusone4271]

@@optimusprime4263 I don't see him being the same player. Age is a factor too along with all of the injuries. Dude ain't young anymore..... If he could've been healthy throughout his career he could've been great. Toronto is lucky to have got the trophy with him and have the luck to get him healthy. Imo

[@brushylake4606]

"The Spurs are boring." I've heard that from fans of other teams. That's just sour grapes from fans of teams that have more alley-oops but fewer wins.

[@cancerstinks1]

I’d much rather have my team play teamball and get rings than have a team with 1-2 overly arrogant superstars that get all this media attention, only to be out immediately because the everyone backing them up are jobbers

[@veerchasm1]

Boris Diaw or Timmy should’ve won the 2014 Finals MVP, Kawhi was a no show the first 2 games. Glad the Primadonna is gone

[@ap396z]

It’s wild to me how kawhi gets credit for “leading” the spurs to that championship. He averaged 12.8 points that season💀 he was a role player lol. 50 year old Tim Duncan averaged 15pts, 10rebs, 3 asts, and 2 blocks that season, all better than kawhi

[@specialwhenlit8435]

@@ap396z Yep, Finals MVP =/= Leader of the team. If that were the case, then Andre Iguodala led the Warriors to their 1st title in 40 years, great job, Iggy! lol

[@nohbuddy1]

Seems like you shouldn't rush back someone from an injury. You can't compare injuries between two different people

[@ChanBoogie310]

I’m the biggest kawhi fan and spurs fan. My favorite all time is Tim. So just hearing this topic makes me so upset both of them played their final year in a spurs jersey the same year.

[@skl5838]

It was with the Spurs that KL's alleged tendinopathy was reportedly at first suspected. This condition appears to cause him to be absent from games more than less, but he refuses to be seen by team doctors & goes to his own doctors. Popovich once opined that KL "is not a leader". KL has done a good job concealing his career-ending medical condition while playing very little and living off very huge contracts. I believe that is why he ultimately demanded to leave the Spurs & refused to stay with the Raptors. Bet you he will leave the Clippers when his contract is up. Wonder who KL will victimize next...

[@kristimartinez7528]

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[@tevinsherrill5653]

If Zaza doesn't intentionally hurt Kawhi, then that WCF is more competitive. The Warriors would've still won the series, but it would've been in 6 or 7 games.

[@jak5714]

Ngl, seth should have been doing this one

[@jonathanwstx]

That close out was 100% intentional

[@DontTalk2Me]

I live in San Antonio and this just didn’t hurt me it hurt the entire city of San Antonio.

[@dannyhernandez265]

Pachulia never being held accountable for this is equally as bad.

[@Nick-ty3dg]

THANK YOU KAWHI, we will always love you in Canada..

[@OrionOodama]

And hopefully, with sincerity he'll end his career as a Raptor. But if not, it won't be a surprise his jersey will be retired despite only played a year.

[@madmarc014]

I can't wait to see the other parts.

[@tommieberryjr.3843]

Was this only partially finished?

[@bubbabear244]

If the Showtime Lakers are Wheaties, the Spurs are Bran.

[@Barry-v3r]

Why does everyone even pop insist that Tony parkers injury was "worse" than kawhis. If kawhis took longer and made him have trouble walking, wouldn't that make his injury by literal definition "worse" because it took him out longer and caused more pain? What metric are they using to gauge it?

[@specialwhenlit8435]

Tony's injury was more severe but less chronic.

[@daedanjackson9681]

This should be one video, I understand why you did it I just disagree can't wait for the next one you guys always have great content

[@wazzup233]

Finally my wish was granted after SB featured about the feud between Vince Carter vs the Raptors. 😉

[@jordanalexander5275]

Pacers could have had kawhi and PG, instead they traded him for George Hill on draft night. Pacers would have gotten past the heat with him and probably still would have lost to the mavs, then Kawhi would have asked for a trade and blew it up anyways

[@10kirneh]

That injury made Zaza Pachulia the most hated player in the NBA up until he retired from the NBA.

[@PeanutButterAndJellyBros]

kawhi's uncle is a major culprit as to why kawhi is what he is now. I will always believe that the Spurs did not misdiagnosed his injury. Kawhi wanted to leave, so Coach Pop without a choice carried out his favor.

[@socialistbatman1211]

except they literally misdiagnosed his injury, they did the same with Danny Green and Pau Gasol. They cleared him, he didn't feel healthy, and Pop let Tony PArker say that BS to the media

[@jlolopez9623]

What he is now is what KD said which was Kawhi and him belong on the Mount Rushmore of small forwards. That's what KD thinks. The spurs doctors said he was cleared to play. Kawhi was in pain and they wanted him to play in pain. Forget about the diagnosis, he was injured and they wanted him to play through his injury.

[@OrionOodama]

@@socialistbatman1211 Baloney.

[@scottsanderson4310]

Spurs aren't blameless.

[@jlolopez9623]

@@scottsanderson4310 Josh Primo says it all on how the Spurs handle things. They hide all the dirty laundry. If you don't believe that ihen Idoka says it all. It's a closed organization and if you go against it then all come to its defense. Never happend because Pop says they are infallible. What did Murray say when he left there. He said you don't know the organization man.

[@BadgerFromOz]

As a San Antonio Spurs fan, I can say that I did not expect this. Kawhi Leonard's departure was probably the end of the Spurs' strength of many years of Playoffs. Now they haven't even made it there since 2019. Kawhi Leonard has been to the Toronto Raptors (2019 Championship) and the Los Angeles Clippers. Patty Mills' departure to the Brooklyn Nets before the 2021-22 season was also heartbreaking to the Spurs' as Mills would get better. Now, the question is, after more than twenty years of making the Playoffs before missing the next three, how long will it be before San Antonio make it back there?

[@verynice7367]

Ngl if it wasn’t for this the spurs would still be a top tier team

[@brandonmessner7848]

This is kind of like Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 in that you should probably skip it and just watch part 2. Harry Potter aside- this is potentially the most consequential NBA injury of the 21st century. Glad it's being addressed!

[@Sai4651]

The benefit of doubt the Spurs get is kind of absurd. Kawhi Leonard got injured and it took him a long time to recover from that injury, despite the Spurs organization having a great track record, just because you have a good history, doesn't mean you'll always do right. They didn't believe Kawhi was truly injured, and that disbelief is why this relationship fell apart. The Spurs had every incentive to rush Kawhi back from injury, Kawhi didn't feel comfortable with his body coming off that injury. A lot of people are gonna argue that he was faking so he could get a trade LA, and my response to that is why? He was gonna be a free agent in 2019, why miss a season of basketball and risk doing all of this just to get to LA 1 year sooner?

[@jlolopez9623]

absolutely correct. He was never given respect. He was being told what to do by the Spurs. Tony P put it clearly out there and said his injury was 100X worse and that he would never go outside the spurs organization for doctors. They wanted him to play through the injury. He would have blown his knee earlier had he stayed with the spurs. With load management and injury management the knee went out what 3-4 years later? He win a ring with Toronto with load management. The spurs said no load management play throught it.

[@krambone]

Beef History's, Collapses', and Rewinds' be dropping right on time

[@matthewforbes2969]

Collapse: how the Montreal canadiens failed to reach sniffing distance of Lord Stanley for 28 years Rewinder: the miracle of Istanbul Rewinder: 2010 World Cup final Untitled: Ted Williams Untitled: marcel Dionne Untitled: Johan Cruyff in the World Cup Untitled: pavel Bure Beef history: Celtic vs rangers Beef history: Real Madrid vs Barcelona Untitled: henrik lundqvist Rewinder: Mario chalmers’ game tying shot in the national championship game Rewinder: Christian laettner’s shot against Kentucky Collapse: How injuries, age, and tragedy brought down the Larry bird Celtics Collapse: How Arsenal went from the kings of London to middle of the premier league pack Collapse: How AC Milan’s legendary team was brought down by transfers and injuries Beef history: George Steinbrenner vs Billy Martin Beef history: Yankees vs Red Sox

[@rafaelfermin4619]

Really hope SB some day sees this comment

[@Aburner960]

Johan cruyff only really played 1 wc tho

[@matthewlo7868]

As much as I would love more football (soccer) stuff from Secret Base, ya gotta remember they’re a yank channel, so footy vids aren’t exactly gonna be frequent..

[@sensethevillen]

You, Thinking Basketball and Jxmmy are my favorite basketball related channels.

[@kstxevolution9642]

What about his beef with reality

[@malcorub]

6:34 George Hill only played 3 seasons in SA but he still lives there in the off season. Plus he has a ranch North of SA.

[@LokNex915]

I remember watching that game versus the warriors while visiting family in San Antonio everyone’s jaw hit the floor when that slimey f@#* Zaza intentionally hurt Leonard then we watched in horror as everything fell apart