KAWKAB ZUHAL: Drag, Astrology & Coming As You Are | Sarde (after dinner) Podcast #59

[@sardeafterdinner]

Welcome everyone! Your engagement would please the Algorithm Gods and greatly help spread this Sarde! Here are the timestamps: 00:00 - Intro to Kawkab Zuhal 01:58 - Zyad’s journey into the Lebanese Drag Scene 09:05 - A brief history of Drag 12:20 - Who is Zyad’s inspiration for Drag 15:02 - Zuhal’s drag routine and drag’s cultural shock in Lebanon 15:11 - The Transformation from Zyad to Zuhal 18:07 - How did Zuhal’s parents react to his in Drag? 20:36 - Zuhal’s advice on how to deal with bullies 26:18 - Drag in the Arab world 28:45 - What are Zuhal’s drag performances 33:10 - Astrology Numerology & our insignificance 46:23 - Personality differences between Zyad and Zuhal 52:30 - Competition within the drag community 56:27 - Going to Paris 58:09 - You are not your Pattern and being yourself Support us on Patreon www.patreon.com/sardeafterdinner for more exclusive content!

[@vandashadidramia7035]

Ppppp

[@alnawaqilsami3368]

Kudos to this show for bringing in diverse guests Interesting personality and a nice discussion

[@miki7865]

Nice episode it's really really touching seeing how u r guys speaking on behalf of us , breaking the stereotype image imposed on LGBTQ community . Many thanks for this episode, I'm so happy seeing how alternative media is shifting the whole vision.

[@JordiAli18]

لا

[@josephabi-khalil7708]

I love to see the open minded Lebanon that I was raised in!! Thanks for this Sarde!!

[@giobogarian]

open minded? you are disguising ignorance and tolerance to satanic stuff in the word of open minded...

[@OrderMeetsChaos]

This guy needs bullying

[@yoru4372]

​@@giobogariantypical muslim

[@ranahazim5496]

Thank you for making your channel a safe space and giving a platform to drag artists in Lebanon to have a voice and spread education. - Keep it up !!

[@Sami-the-stranger]

Hello from a closeted arab teen, and thank you for being true to yourself so that I can be true to myself

[@mrmohamed9708]

He's so funny and entertaining . Thank you to sarde podcast for being inclusive .

[@machiavelli2313]

حلقة جميلة والضيف ❤❤ نحتاج بالعالم العربي مساحة أكبر لهالأفكار والشخصيات اللي كانت في الماضي شيء مخبّأ تحت الأرض

[@NabilAlSayed]

This is one of your best Episodes, content, production, awareness and acceptance! Thank you for yo being you Médéa Azouri & Mouin Jaber and all the love to both Zyad & Kawkab Zuhal

[@842juno]

so happy for this!! it's amazing🤩 Ziad is a real artist

[@AURORAstuff]

thank you so much for this!!

[@boomboombee2544]

The negative commentary here truly sheds a light on how society views "femininity", particularly if it's expressed through non-traditional means, in that, if the feminine is not serving them sexually, or existing within the bounds of their expectations, it triggers in them anger and hate. And what is the source of "anger" if not fear of that which you don't understand? Kawkab as a guest, is necessary to humanise the experience, the person behind the performance. I appreciate this show for being daring enough to platform a range of life stories and existence - and for doing so respectfully. Drag is an artform, and we're all doing "drag" in one way or another in life, performing gender norms, cultural customs, religious rituals etc. We all tailor how we want to be viewed to an external audience. Kawkab is just brave enough to tap into a feminine energy in all of us, that sadly, society expects you to suppress and to vilify. Ask yourself why? I loved the example of how insignificant everything is compared to the size of the universe and the comparison of astrology to religion. Most religion actually has its roots in astrology, as our human ancestors looked to the stars for answers. Another great episode, thanks M&M! :)

[@sikodowakol9275]

Lots of people here from Lebanese university. Proud of you all🤍

[@sardeafterdinner]

Ahlaaa!

[@suisui7481]

@@sardeafterdinner hello, also lebanese and LU here. just wondering if next weeks guest can be someone relevant to whats happening in regards to LGBT and civil marriage maybe helem founder Georges Azzi, or maybe even Shaden again (she is a delight)

[@Thisisdeema]

I love this episode 😭❤️ so entertaining and i learned a lot ❤️

[@w_double.u]

This is one of the best episodes ever!! Thank you for this!

[@husseinbahsoun3978]

Adorable Zyad. Wishing you great success and sunshine ❤

[@Yollande16]

I can listen to Zuhal talk all day long 💖

[@jallouladel9764]

One day i'm going to become the president of Lebanon and give all rights for the lgbt community

[@weirdpep4085]

This is amazing!!! All love and support to Zuhal!

[@tarekjamo]

Very nice transition from Ziad to Zuhal!!

[@ItsSylx]

Imma give it to yall, it takes some serious balls to introduce such content to a leb audience

[@mohamadkaakii]

Best episode so far! Super interesting, Zyad is so intelligent and Im so proud of where he is now!

[@abu3leish]

You sound like his father.

[@jehanetman4259]

شكرا على الحلقة الجميلة دي ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@yousefsal666]

That transition was smooth AF 😂

[@tamovicha]

Amazing podcast!! شكراً جزيلاً!!!

[@a.b.y.2028]

‏‪1:22:03‬‏ اجمل حلقة شاهدتها ❤ وهذا لأنني احلم ان اصبح مؤدي للراب ولكن الى الأن ليس لدي اعمال لكننب اكتب و مازلت احاول ان اصبح ما اتمناه شكراً لكم على هذا البرنامج الرائع ❤ وشكراً Big hass اتمنى ان اراك في المستقبل❤

[@moriszoghby5144]

Sweet content transition you guys!!

[@moriszoghby5144]

15:52

[@LA001-n1s]

LOVE THIS!! THANK YOU

[@fariss.7342]

Really enjoyed watching this! Thanks Sarde for promoting diversity and inclusion :)

[@nadiasultani767]

nice episode!

[@karimrishani8298]

This is amazing. How at least part of Lebanon is still liberal tolerant and accepting. Just imagine the situation of Zyad in let us say any area of Lebanon under the control of Islamic- Fascist control. Or perhaps in Any other Arab speaking country or any other Islamic Majority country or any Homophobic Country

[@ribalhaj4613]

Great Sarde!

[@Vibingwithdeedee]

I want Zuhal to teach me drag makeup

[@ahmadauadh]

تسوي انستقرام لايف من فترة لفترة

[@fargas111]

Mouin I saw you are wearing a sci-fi fantasy shirt. Any favorite fantasy book series?

[@linahamadeh7504]

شكرا سرده والضيف .. حلقة ممتعة ⚘

[@hiba0090792]

شكرا انك موجودة يا زحل ❤

[@RamiJacob]

Great episode 😍😍

[@Lifeofsagi89_]

Love you Zuhal! Keep going ❤

[@zayn.01]

Yay I was waiting for this one 🤟🏻🌈🌈🌈🌈

[@andreasashjian8775]

💙✨

[@user-yq9kx5oc8z]

شكرًا مره على هالحلقة تعرفت على شخصيته اكثر وشخص رائع وشجاع صدق

[@aaronhill182]

كتيير حلي لشوف قديش مفتوحة عقول انتوا، شكرا كتير

[@ghw7990]

it takes a lot of courage for a person from the LGBTQ community to be out of the closet in Lebanon. All the respect for those who are true to themselves and all the respect for the parents who accept and support their children.

[@AlexaOrixa]

My favorite human❤️

[@Dusktf]

I love her so much

[@aymanalhoussami4870]

Him bro it’s him^

[@prefectblue5180]

@@aymanalhoussami4870 cornball shut up

[@ziadmohamed1427]

من زياد في مصر تحية لزياد بلبنان

[@alimohsen9835]

I’ve seen many heroes and geniuses on this show but zuhal tops the list followed by mia khalifa. Can you have layal aboud the next episode please!!!! Btw great timing for this episode after KZbin concealed the dislike counts.

[@alimohsen9835]

Anndddd you’re so BRAVE and DARING and MODERN…

[@missdeep6260]

Mia is a hero? Mm k sure

[@amyah3284]

very insightful

[@yarastyles1886]

ONE OF THE BEST EPISODE. HES SO FUNNY 😭😭😭

[@msa590]

One of the best episodes for sure ❤️❤️

[@karimachy57]

كتير حبيت 😍😍

[@soushee4561]

لذيذ، مهضوم، ذكي، عميق وموهوب، حر ومفرفر، كتير حبيت :-)

[@neurowhiz876]

You guys are promoting a more inclusive lebanon!

[@anwarpsychiatrist4629]

نحن ننتظر هذا الجار لكي يجرنا بفنه إلى عوالمه الملونه.

[@MajdSidawi]

❤️

[@maryleon686]

YESSSS FINALLY !!!!!! ❤❤❤❤

[@karenkrayker4421]

I love zuhal😍😍❤️❤️

[@marcosandrawes3641]

Good episode

[@becca2398]

Ma fi mezoot I’m DECEASED. 💀💀💀💀 twirl on the haters huntyyyyy. Also I’m living for the pronoun juggling in Arabic lolll.

[@naghamdagher]

At least put at15:50 that she took a break to change her look

[@hatimelamri1630]

I love Zuhal she's very talented and smart artist

[@qusoi]

ترويج الافكار المنحطة اخلاقيا تحت راية تقبل الغير والانفتاح انتو فاهمين غلط الانفتاح الغاء الاشتراك

[@aou6499]

It's a mad mad mad world, and, dammit.... it's great! A cool time away from our hateful politician's...

[@halimakhalid2396]

هذهِ اسوء حلقة خلتني الغي الاشتراك شو هالتشوه الفكري اذا لهل درجة مقتنعين يله انتوا كمان تحولوا خلي ميديا تصير معين ومعين بصير ميديا يييع شو مليانه قرف هالسردة

[@eliekhalife3809]

The amount of hateful comments here are exactly why we will never progress as a country! Sad :(! Kudos to you M&M for what you are trying to do.

[@flexwell3000]

Don't give in to hate and darkness. Spread tolerance, acceptance of others and inclusivity through your life choices, ideas and behavior.

[@EnergizedGamingGuy]

Instead of being poor, we’ll be poor and gay 👍

[@mariannefarhoud7417]

Ziad ,tu a une immense intelligence du cœur..

[@yasminethehuman]

looooooooved it

[@AliAhmad-gr6hk]

did fayrouz get plastic surgery done?

[@hulk2952]

No

[@dondalio2]

Guys, you need to understand the dangerous repercussions of what you’re promoting gradually here, with a lot if ambivalence and good spirit I’m sure. Tolerance to people with special conditions is matter of fairness and human rights, but asking for pronouns and playing the neo-liberal narrative game is really really dangerous especially in the Middle East, where the majority of the population are deeply conservative. I love your content and I’d be deeply sad to see you join the wagon of the radical left irresponsibly. Please critically reconsider. Thank you again for your valuable content.

[@OfficialBahlo]

Zuhal you're awesome!!!! Ziad mesh ktir.

[@We_are_Stars-Stuff]

45:28 It's a hobby, not a science! ..sorry but you can't say that. Nice episode I enjoyed 👍

[@nourfakhran7082]

I LOVE her

[@fahdchmanti7632]

there is a moroccan band of men who dress as women (traditional clothes) and sing traditional Moroccan songs. I guess that's drag.

[@Desidarium]

It started so interesting with the experience of drag in Lebanon and then got so boring and annoying with the pseudoscience bit

[@ramial-helou6752]

😍😍😍😍😍

[@aliceag5547]

💗💗

[@lemon-ade3857]

Laish Bardo closed? What happened?

[@Maddy93689]

The problem with us now days we are despiteful mom RIP told me in 60s 70s every wedding singer have drag queen with her they resent it but they respect their choices

[@We_are_Stars-Stuff]

معلومة عسريع: أقرب عاصمتين بالعالم : دمشق و بيروت❤

[@amirrrosh]

عمان والقدس المسافة أقصر بينهم !

[@bassamarnaout1071]

See i told you we watch it Monday morning 😅🇦🇺

[@sardeafterdinner]

Hahahaha

[@itafsaadi1723]

just to correct him in TUNISIA we have drag shows in bars and discos and they perform in public and foreign drag queens perform in tunisia too latelty we had andrea from leabanon and she performed here . LOBNAN IS NOT THE ONLY ARAB COUNTRY .

[@sardeafterdinner]

Interesting! Any videos out there?!

[@A500A]

Lebanon and Tunisia are NOT arab, Arabs are only people from the Arabian peninsula.

[@irisas.8613]

يا قلبي شو حبابة ♥️

[@abu3leish]

That was one of the hardest likes Ive given. It would've been nice if you had warned me about the transitioning phase. Ziad is still human, maybe a lost soul but thats not for me to judge. "Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change."

[@bbbbbbbb537]

Ok

[@cg9833]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Gotron-j2l]

love ع zuhal

[@valliro]

This makes me feel belonging to the Middle East .

[@khaledjdeed45]

Did he just identify himself as a planet ?

[@lanalove5257]

Yes it's a new gender identity gender-planet udk bout it?😀

[@jeanpierre942]

Ziad or zuhal , stop hating on lebanon .. we all know lebanon is the safest country in mena for lgbtq ppl. Just go for a visit f any other country and you’ll know what bullying and depression means.

[@AlexaOrixa]

dude was he talking chinese? people bullying him are from other arab countries. not lebanon. he literally said that. da3 l malaf

[@luna13moth]

Go outside of central Beirut and try saying that again lol

[@jeanpierre942]

@@luna13moth wait what? Maha ellik jounieh w batroun w jbeil w kel hul l osas. Just go to tyre bel jnub w shufi shu aam besir be cloud w ghayro.😂

[@luna13moth]

@@jeanpierre942 that’s private dude try to walk down the street and see what happens that’s not being safe that’s having to hide to stay alive

[@luna13moth]

@@jeanpierre942 if you mean safe within a certain group then sure even Saudi has that lol underground gay spots exist everywhere people are still getting murdered for that all over tho so define safe

[@smh7344]

I love themmm omfggggg

[@omaralhajji5214]

تفي شو هلمنظر 🙂

[@richardelalam974]

Worst episode ever shame

[@Onilehaddad]

😂 14:30 14:30 14:30 😂😂😂😂😂

[@underworldguardian6694]

بحب الاصالة اللي عندكم بكل شيء ،باللغة و بالمحتوى و بالافكار ،يعني ابد بعمركم ماتقلدو احد 🙃،و ما تبطلوا ترويج للشذوذ

[@lanalove5257]

That's not even a gay thing drag isnt equal to gay and there's no such thing as promoting gayness...... If they was with a straight guess is that promoting straightness????????

[@underworldguardian6694]

@@lanalove5257 اولا لما ما تعرف تتكلم انگليزي عدل لا تعوج حلقك ،احكي عربي،بعدين انا قصدت الشخص اللي مستضيفي قال انه شااااذ،بعدين الطبيعي ميحتاج ترويج،و عليه اذا استقبلوا شخص عادي لا يعتبر ترويج،لأنك لا تروج ما هو عادي ،يعني بالمختصر مثالك غلط

[@lanalove5257]

@@underworldguardian6694 my first language is english bebe but my keyboard sucks sometimes

[@lanalove5257]

@@underworldguardian6694 and u making fun of my english won't make u less dump

[@depressedyemeni]

@@lanalove5257 *dumb Mrs first language

[@gayagaya1818]

Eno chou fih chi bidahik? Chou el chi el.original bil ossa? Chou fi chi interessant ta nohdar?

[@lanalove5257]

Actually that's so normal that u don't think it's funny. Some people think that drag comedy art is funny and others don't it's ok

[@gayagaya1818]

@@lanalove5257 it's my opinion and u hav to respect it...plus I didnt ask urs

[@lanalove5257]

@@gayagaya1818 I'm literally telling u that it's ok to think that's it's not funny so like it's ok everyone have there own opinion... And since u wrote a comment in a public comments section I have the right to reply...... U literally said "u have to respect my opinion but I don't have to respect urs" wtf

[@M055155]

Full of him self he literally said he is a star lol how very dare you

[@miraarnous365]

يعني اذا الواحد ما تقبل هل ظواهر كمان حرية شخصية.. متل ما هو عم يحكي وبدو يفرض حالو بالقوة عالمجتمع اللبناني.. واي انسان من حقو يعبر عن رفضو.. يعني مش عارفة كيف المصطلحات البذيئة اللي عم يقولل هوي ومبسوط تعتبر حضارة؟ انو شو بيفيد هل اللبس الشيطاني اللي عاملو؟ عنجد الله يسترنا من الآتي.. شي مش مفيد للمجتمع ولا الو طعمة ومن منطلق ايماني برفضك رفض قاطع وما بتمنى انو هل ظاهرة تكون موجودة لانو مدمرة تدمير ممنهج لكل المجتمعات.. ايحاءات جنسية ورذللة وقرف و بتحكو بحرية؟ عنجد بتمنى تنبادو وينقطع روسكن

[@Mawadh898]

لا انتي فاهمه حرية التعبير خطأ عادي تفصحي عن رأيك ضد الشي بس ما يصير تحاربيه كشخص او تدعي للكراهيه اتجاهه

[@norazahrani58]

زحل تجنن 💖

[@slaynermin3551]

I love him soo badd omgg

[@MajdSidawi]

حدا انتبه معين اديه متشنج ومش مرتاح? عندك some issues to six

[@MajdSidawi]

هي تو فيكس

[@sarahashta1372]

He's funny 😄

[@monaalhusseini]

Has everyone forgot God . All this is forbidden.

[@sarahashta1372]

God forbids hate too dear 🙏 so hushhh

[@monaalhusseini]

@@sarahashta1372 I'm not going to hush . As God Allah said when you see something wrong you should say it . All this is the devil's work . Enjoy Hell . Life is a test . It seems most off you are falling. And this is called your Qaren who hates the person. It seems the devil is doing an astonishing job . And humans are not tuff enough plus its all has been written. In all religions . Jin evil all . Humans are so weak . Not only that these people need therapy they are mentally not there . Like it or not I'm right. God is testing us all . The devil said he will fill hell with people. He is doing a great job. And don't ever tell me to hush. That's just ignorance .

[@monaalhusseini]

@@gahb4326 There is a God.

[@Vee369-x9o]

He's dead sweetheart

[@Vee369-x9o]

@@gahb4326 metaphorically he did