Kayak Tie Down do you really need bow and stern lines.

[@kenwebster5053]

I have kayaked since the early 70s. Never had a need to anchor bow or stern. Back in the day, I used rope, but that's not PC these days. I have to say that double braid rope is far less susceptible to abrasion & sun damage than straps. I used to rope across a & diagonally & trap the rope under the cockpit lip. With straps though, you can only go straight across, 1 strap per bar. Well I don't trust them, so I use 2 straps per bar just in case. Kayak cradles are really good at keeping the boats from moving around too. Modern cars do not have front & rear tie down points, so you want that, you have to trap a loop under the hood & tailgate & this wears the paint off the edge of your bonnet & tailgate, then you get early rust problems. No I'm not doing it, it isn't necessary & it damages the car. Just double strap the kayaks to trap the cockpit lip & your all good. I have 2 x 17 ft sea kayaks & 2 x 13 ft slalom kayaks, they all ride secure with this method, high winds, motorways speeds, passing heavy vehicles etc all good.

[@joshportelli]

Love the PPF tip. I did my entire hood, fenders, grille, rockers, A-pillars, mirrors and partial roof, myself (a lot of work). I may have to do the small pieces on the wife's car just for kayak mounts like yours.

[@TomJonesGearGuy]

It does work and 3m is loving you 😂 thanks

[@quentinallen3354]

You are the only one who went through the option I needed. to use with under the hood handle one. Thank you.

[@TCPUDPATM]

Beautifully done! Love the small touches like the film.

[@TomJonesGearGuy]

thank you very much

[@gerbil7771]

Thanks for the under the hood tip, great option for new cars that don't have anything to attach to.

[@gbenzon]

I very much agree with the crossed front tie-downs. I use Thule folding J-bar racks and the crossed method pulls the boats against the racks. Otherwise, the boat can work itself side-to-side in the turbulence when passing a truck at 70 mph. It can be quite violent. I don't think many people understand the forces involved, nor do they realize the consequences of losing a boat on a crowded highway. Just yesterday I passed a car on I-81 in New York where their kayak was skewed 30 degrees from the centerline of the vehicle with no bow tiedown. The stress on the rack and straps had to be enormous.

[@lauriemontour3192]

Thoughtful, useful. Thanks!

[@joshportelli]

Lots of good advice, Thanks man!

[@TomJonesGearGuy]

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for the good words 😀

[@joey2658]

Hi can you tell me the name of the blue Thule stripe you lock in the engine room？Thank you

[@TomJonesGearGuy]

they are Thule Hood Loop Strap, other companies make them too 1drv.ms/u/s!AsmqH9ylh4Lag8NlI2OsfMeT9s5BdQ?e=CVa806

[@joey2658]

@@TomJonesGearGuy Thanks mate

[@alkaholic4848]

Have you thought about a roof bar on top of the cab too? The force of the wind pushing the bow to left or right (twisting effect) is very strong at high speed, and the tip of the bow has a lot of leverage on your first real anchor point which is almost at the mid-point of the hull.

[@TomJonesGearGuy]

No, not at all. Even at 90+ mph I have not seen any shifting in the boats and have for many years tied my kayaks at about the same point even with different mounting systems.

[@joshportelli]

Most roofs do not have roof rack mounting provisions. And drilling/welding into a new car is never a great idea (leaks, rust, etc). And those clamp on your door header roof racks should only be used if you don't care about doors seals sealing or being damaged or your paint getting scratched from vibration and dirt.

[@joshportelli]

Some truck bed mounted racks extend over the cab, that would be cool.