Currently one of the best talks on Flutter, well done
@papimatlhakwane78802 жыл бұрын
Cnfkfkkk uriri
@relativityboy6 жыл бұрын
Brian's presentation is awesome, his code is awesome. He seems like a brilliant guy. Very encouraged by his chronic misuse of the word ancestor. (shows his mortality) For those wondering: Ancestor & parent are overlapping concepts. They are things like root classes, objects that contain other objects, etc. If in a class definition you say "inherits from" or "extends" then it's a CHILD. The thing on the right hand side of those two expressions is the PARENT/ANCESTOR. If you instantiate a thing inside another thing, the instantiated thing is the CHILD. The instantiator is the PARENT/ANCESTOR. 2 levels up and higher (^Grand-parent) you're looking at ANCESTOR. If you're talking about 2 levels and lower (Grand-child) you're looking at PROGENY. I'm pretty sure there's something about the word PROGENY that's confused the issue. People don't seem to feel comfortable using it. But we should anyway. X -> Y extends/contained by 'X' -> Z extends/contained by 'Y'. ANCESTOR->PARENT -> (CURRENT CONTEXT) -> CHILD->PROGENY
@shahidbangash47785 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining State Architecture. It helped me a lot to understand how flutter works.
@aymenmt12 жыл бұрын
i'm new to flutter , totally recommend this after learning the UI concepts .
@icazevedo6 жыл бұрын
He made this dense talk feel so light! Definitely gonna give it a try
@miklosnemeth85665 жыл бұрын
I guess in the meantime you had a chance to review the brilliant samples on fluttersamples.com
@tomglod93764 жыл бұрын
i'm so happy i watched this...great talk!!! very useful. I'm on day one of writing my first flutter app.
@JacklapottTv4 жыл бұрын
Any scary things ahead ? Iam on day one lmao
@tomglod93764 жыл бұрын
@@JacklapottTv Lots of scary things.... to be honest...the learning curve really sucks. I finally got over the hump when I found a way to have global variables and not have to pass information from widget to widget. also ...becoming clear on the syntax of classes(functions) and their properties. But hint number one is not to just watch tutorials.....type the code yourself instead of copy and paste. good luck brother.
@1b0o04 жыл бұрын
Tom Glod id say you can copy code as long as you understand what’s happening under the hood at least from a conceptual standpoint.
@tomglod93764 жыл бұрын
@@1b0o0 of course you can, but typing it out speeds up your brain's ability to retain it and recall. "recalling" is a way of learning. And if you copy and paste you aren't doing that.
@MrVipulLal Жыл бұрын
Redux is nice, but Provider pretty much does everything. Nice talk thought
@abdouseck48944 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you. Helped me to choose which architecture and state management I should chose from the hundreds that are available
@yoosufahmadh39454 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Best video I've seen related ro flutter so far
@philosophia5577 Жыл бұрын
Looking for more DartConfs in upcoming year..
@SergioArroyoSailing4 жыл бұрын
fantastic explanation of Redux from the man himself :)
@uziao6 жыл бұрын
great! thank you! :) greetings from Brasil Ormando (Colatina - ES)
@uwepuneet6 жыл бұрын
Coming from React Space
@jilonasigbee2418 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually a pure beginner in the coding world and I've been trying to see how to even start a career to upgrade my skills but I don't even know what to learn or even how. This vid was soo understandable to me even though I've watched so many begginer's vids. buh does anyone have advice f or me
@amugofjava6 жыл бұрын
Wow - that was a lot to take in. I may need to watch it again. Good talk.
@AJ-dy2bt3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant lecture!
@haos45744 жыл бұрын
This sounds very much like the Bloc library, but looks simpler in code.
@tobiaswimmerprogramminglif23784 жыл бұрын
Very well explained! Great talk!
@jibraniqbal78305 жыл бұрын
I hope the bloc pattern also had a talk like this.
@Miiite5 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk
@miklosnemeth85665 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent presentation. Still, I think anything that is more complex than the Vanilla (see fluttersamples.com) is overkill for mobile applications. I am in the mobile business application development arena for 7 years now, and I've never seen an application where the complexity of UI is the challenge. Redux is anything but simple. If Flutter were used for really complex desktop applications, I'd say OK, but for mobile apps, no way it is required. To me the Vanilla solution is the real gem from fluttersamples.com; Redux is like walrus; I come to the zoo to admire them, but I wouldn't take one home.
@vibovitold5 жыл бұрын
It's not about complexity of the UI as such, but state management in general. This pattern comes at a cost of boilerplate, but it also makes troubleshooting easier, incl. a form of time travelling debugging. The benefits are well laid out in Hannes Dorfmann's MVI series - hannesdorfmann.com/android/mosby3-mvi-1 and the subsequent parts. It's about native Android development / Kotlin, but it discusses the pattern conceptually. The nomenclature may differ from Redux here and there, but it boils down to prety much the same thing.
@MatheusGambati6 жыл бұрын
Worked with redux writing big react apps, such a pain wrting boilerplate. I wish that mobx existed on dart.
@theGoldyMan4 жыл бұрын
It does exist
@saoudiwalid6 жыл бұрын
The only issue I can see with this architecture is the fact that State must be immutable, so for any slight change to the state, all the state will need to be recreated. This includes nested objects !!! A more advanced pattern is used by Microsoft in the MVVM Patter (a special implementation of MVP) where the state (View Model) just need to implement INotifyPropertyChanged (or use if dependency property) to make the view updates only what has changed and no need to recreate the whole state every time. What do you think? Is there any better way I might have missed to dual with a more real life type of applications (complex state with nested objects, list of items, items with different details, actions, etc..)?
@theGoldyMan5 жыл бұрын
MVVM died with knockout.js
@lotierm5 жыл бұрын
Recreating state is no a bad thing. Immutable is good
@Dorumin5 жыл бұрын
Immutable chokes the garbage collector, I get that flutter is lightning fast and you shouldn't optimize early on but I still prefer a more OOP approach where one class has certain state and methods to modify it in the same place, with listeners that can update on those changes
@vibovitold5 жыл бұрын
@@theGoldyMan MVVM is alive and kicking on Android, in the form of Data Binding library
@vibovitold5 жыл бұрын
If nested objects are immutable, too (as they should be), then after recreating the parent object they will be passed by reference. This shouldn't have much of a performance impact.
@polypus746 жыл бұрын
apropos: "layering", speaker keeps saying: "we heard a little bit about this yesterday". anybody know which talk he is referring to?
@warcraft3reforgedisannounc4285 жыл бұрын
Wanted to program my first app with Flutter. Read: "Keep it Simple [...]". I didn't understand anything.
@rbp3655 жыл бұрын
:D software engineering is a lot about experience. In order to understand really good, innovative architecture which solves a lot of problems during development, you have to first experience those problems by failing a lot as a developer. There is no way around it at this moment. Software engineering is a 50 year old industry and science, compared to math which is thousands of years old. There is no fool-proof way to just explain everything these people do in a 60 minute presentation, you have to experience it in order to understand it
@francisgeorge76394 жыл бұрын
Google keeps throwing engineers at us instead of people who know how to teach. The docs are the same.
@andrescamilorodriguezespit63175 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you!
@ibrahimsharif18534 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice Talk with a lot of good information and content :)
@FlutterExplained4 жыл бұрын
Amazing Talk, thanks for sharing!
@mmusa64865 жыл бұрын
Great this is an awesome explanation @Brian
@jagdishshetty47826 жыл бұрын
Good presentation !!!
@张风捷特烈5 жыл бұрын
Thanks,I learn more about ctrl flutter state .
@patrickkdev2 жыл бұрын
I wish we could have the option to not use curly braces in dart. That would improve code readabilty tremendously
@nkl_sl3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@FreeMusic545 жыл бұрын
very very helpful speak. thanks.
@ibrahimragab22996 жыл бұрын
Well talk, but why not open Android Studio and show us how to do this?
@robertdobert47145 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how these are set up but it might just be a time constraint.
@KashifMinhaj6 жыл бұрын
Great! Been waiting for this. Will surely give Redux a try. Btw, has anyone here worked with Sqlite in Flutter? Wanted to know some best practices related to maintaining tables & helper classes.
@Mohith75486 жыл бұрын
Move to Cloud Database, Firebase
@vibovitold5 жыл бұрын
@@Mohith7548 this is quite stupid advice honestly. These two serve different purposes. Why give up local persistance for the cloud. It means the app wouldn't be able to save (or retrieve) user data when there's no internet reception - eg. on the subway - not to mention increased battery drain and latency. Even if the data is to be backed up in the cloud, this is not a reason not to store it locally. You keep a local copy then sync it with the cloud.
@VemueZ6 жыл бұрын
great explanation
@admin2026 жыл бұрын
As I know reducers are pure functions without side effects. This means we can't call external services from reducers. Is there any alternative similar to that of Effects in ngRx (Angular )
@felixssimoes5 жыл бұрын
The best way to handle side effects is using middleware functions
@politicallynotcorrect29684 жыл бұрын
Should build a vuex like store which will also multiple and inherited modules .
@geor.papadakis6 жыл бұрын
2018 and still a new framework which nobody knows what a design pattern is which forces you to write clean maintainable code.
@lipinski24526 жыл бұрын
Yeah lol, it's quite annoying coding things like this
@sdshsjg6 жыл бұрын
xD
@Dorumin5 жыл бұрын
That's a weird sentence but yeah, most of these frameworks are very freeform with what approach you can take with state management, I guess it's just a lot of trial and error and learning why one is better than the other for your usecases rather than following one pattern because it's the only one there is
@rajr95985 жыл бұрын
You forgot Facebook is using redux and the inventor of Redux Dan is a React developer.
@jordancech99185 жыл бұрын
11:15 did you mean pass down to all of its children?
@junyuzhan65556 жыл бұрын
In the end, you will need a Relay for Flutter.
@RowanGontier4 жыл бұрын
If the store provider is found from a child widget, why does this not violate the principle of reusability, in sense that if the child widget was used in another app, there probably will not be a provider with the same name?
@fuaditrockz5 жыл бұрын
I wanna learn Flutter to avoid Redux, and finnaly I found Redux again... Sh*t!
@Hiro-yn4vt4 жыл бұрын
xD
@JonesDTaylor4 жыл бұрын
Now you can use Provider for state management.
@GiriJeedigunta4 жыл бұрын
Checkout MobX
@dennismwebia18314 жыл бұрын
haha
@RamziHemadou4 жыл бұрын
Redux is very simple I don't know why people fear of it?.
@znelson325 жыл бұрын
Right?
@quangvuong40896 жыл бұрын
Wow, Redux in Flutter is the same as React Native
@kgsachinthau5 жыл бұрын
programming basis
@longbka5 жыл бұрын
I should combo redux and BLoC
@ismannyb81484 жыл бұрын
Multiprovider baby
@amalraj94373 жыл бұрын
What about flutter clean architecture with rxdart Anyone please reply me
@canerdemircigm4 жыл бұрын
State Management is: To bring water from 1000 rivers.
@rankingcompare3365 жыл бұрын
Can I check out my APK source file before publishing google play store, it's safe for my user or not?
@imranbajwa59375 жыл бұрын
nice
@muhamedabdalla23014 жыл бұрын
I think that trying to simple a lot, make it so messy and bad.
@humanontheinternet65105 жыл бұрын
so you who created redux
@mhbdev4 жыл бұрын
It would be so much better with more real worlds examples 👍🏻
@tmst21996 жыл бұрын
12:17: You touch on duplication between the State and Widget classes and then just skip it to discuss testing. I assume it remains a problem with your architecture. The Flutter testing and documentation is extensive and professional. But is it a case of putting lipstick on a pig?
@lubeckable4 жыл бұрын
redux? this is terrible
@MrVipulLal2 жыл бұрын
Nothing unique or new here. 100 other videos have the same content, as Dodd the flutter website. Waste of time