SDI E-Clik Ordering guide for the Raptor (gen1, gen2, gen3)

[@joshuatiede3564]

I have been watching your videos for a long time and I feel it is an injustice to not stop and thank you for all the good content, helpful information and just great entertainment! Thanks for what you do! Keep it up!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Thanks man. This means a lot

[@cdogg22]

Great content. I love the level of detail that you provide and the helpful hints to avoid going down the wrong route. For me...I have a 2019 Raptor with King 3.0's front and back, Deaver +3HD (carry two spare tires and jack in the back), SVC UCA's, and bump stops in the rear. My truck originally had the stock live valved that worked decently. Thought about SDI upgrade on the factory live valves...but upgraded to factory race series shocks and the truck ran like garbage. I was able to return those shocks and went to the Kings. Took my truck out to Barstow and King (for free) re-valved my shocks and tuned them specifically for my truck and riding style. The shocks perform amazingly off road through whoops and jumps and pretty good on road. It's strange to go backwards on technology but I couldn't be happier with my results.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Your experience is what everyone experiences man. There is no replacement for a properly tuned shock. kings keeps their design simple and when tuned to you setup right, you get the best performance. Wish Fox did the same, but they don’t and a tune session with the pros can get super expensive. But not everyone across the country will have access to king tuning days. And the next best system to really provide the best all around ride and max performance is Eclick. The stock algorithm and strategy to control the shocks is awful. Ford left a lot on the table and SDi taps into it like no one else

[@cdogg22]

Agreed. I’m in Vegas so the trip to Barstow for a tuning session is not too far. I got 2 years left on my Gen 2 warranty and will probably get a Gen 3 at that point. Will definitely consider the SDI E click system. It looks pretty amazing. But will probably steer clear of the Factory Race Series shocks unless something changes where they work good at all speeds w/ E click. Keep up the great video. I’m a big fan of your work.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

I’m hoping the new gen3 specific shocks fix the check valve issue and maybe that’s why we have not seen them released yet. But the linked setup with SDi algorithm blew us away man. Amazing performance.

[@dgrebroker]

My Gen 3 build goal was to increase offroad, onroad, & tow capabilities. So I am running the bucket up front and the Geisers in the rear with E-click on stock shocks. I always have my jack and Powertank and some other stuff in the back. I tend to offroad with a lot of weight and I also tow a trailer so the rear springs work well. I run the rear soft without adding load to make up for it. I can't believe how well it performs in all situations and everyone who rides with me are amazed! It sits 1/4 higher in the rear now that it is broken in. Thanks for the information that helped me make my decisions! Cheers!!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Glad we could help. So great to hear guys happy with their setups

[@dzo_f150]

A video comparing the system with and without the re-valving from SDI would be awesome man and help people decide with direction to go.

[@MarshallChip]

Just ordered the Top Hat for my R! Thanks for the info, I purchased the Geiser spring but didn’t feel good about installing them. Very happy I came across this video!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Glad we could help man. Let me know once you’re ready to do the kit for the R. SDi is working on getting the system adapted for them soon. And it’s going to wake up the suspension on that truck.

[@DOGwithanO]

Another great video! Love the sdi video comparison series you did. I upgraded to nonlive valve 3.0 last year on my 18; but the Eclik system is looking very tempting

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Dude, you will be blown away by how quickly that suspension performs. That grey raptor in the clips was all stock keeping up with my Mid travel on the trails. Cannot say that about any truck that just did 3.0s unless the driver has experience. When you ready, use the code here or shoot me an email or dm and I can hook you up.

[@rexxpedition]

TSW Arizona makes some awesome coil buckets too!

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Yeah. A bunch came out after all the top hat failures seen on the trails

[@westcoastraptors4792]

Great video, like always very informative.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Thanks man. Lots to share on this one.

[@albertoalvarez5444]

I have SDI top hats (Stock springs) with the SDI Eclick on my 3rd Gen and I broke through the SDI top hats with only 3 days of Baja off-road.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Yeah man. The guys at hammer filled me in. Have your heard back yet from SDI on replacement? But also man. What happened? It takes a massive amount of force to break those

[@albertoalvarez5444]

Im thinking just the baja terrain beating on them for hours at a time. I wasn’t going crazy or anything, a few jumps here and there. Maybe it would be helpful to have limit straps! I’m really hoping Fox finally releases the frs for gen3

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Limit straps can help. I’m hoping it’s just a defect in the metal. Because I’ve seen SDi test these in some of the worst trails in Johnson valley and SoCal over and over again. Baja is on another level of rough in some sections. So it can find the faults in anything.

[@Braxton5340]

My 2019 Gen 2 has 98,000 and it is completely stock. I have never rebuilt shocks. I am looking to keep a good ride on the rode with some off-road benefits and more control over the system as a whole. This is what I'm considering from SDI: E-Click System, Bucket Assembly & Revalve. While maintaining stock front springs and possibly new stock springs or LD dealers for the rear because mine are practically upside down and hop over even the smallest bump in the road now.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

You also need to a rebuild. Even with just street driving your well overdue for a rebuild. You could have the shocks rebuilt as part of the SDI re-valve. But based on what’s you’ve posted, I would not recommend it for you. They may be a little stiffer than you may want for road driving. We mainly recommend the revalve for the off-roader. So plan to have the shocks rebuilt before you install Eclick. Chances are they are leaking and you don’t have any nitrogen in them.

[@Gilgalad007]

Thank you sir. Great video.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Thanks 🙏

[@Throttlemire949]

Great video! I have 2019 OEM live valves with the E-click system. If I upgrade to 3.0 FRS live valves, do I need a whole new E-click system?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

No. You just need to talk to SDI and send in your ECU for them to reprogram. And that’s it. Once you have the latest load that matches your setup, it will get the optimum performance out of it. Without it, it will still work with the stock load. You just won’t be getting the maximum performance

[@carrated]

We had a similar failure this year out west with a RPG adjustable collar set to second from max ring on a Gen 2 Super Cab (stock springs) where the shock also pulled out of the top hat. Failure wasn't as catastrophic however as shown in the video. The shock stayed in the hat luckly and was just moving around in it. This is after 65k miles on the truck, probably 1/4 of that hard off road miles...

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Do you know what the full preload was on that collar? We haven’t seen if the preload is limited to 2in, you should be fine. But there are collars out there that go higher and that’s where you start having problems

[@carrated]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I’m not sure I can check. I have mine on my truck set at 1.5 with never an issue. It only sees Michigan dunes and snowheeling here though.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Yeah, 1.5-2in is about right. Anything more and you will have issues

[@Anthony-bg2pe]

Would be cool if they could program the VDM with its own tunes for each suspension mode. Regardless the system they have come up with is really cool.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

We found in testing that it’s best to keep the suspension in normal and let the SDI system handle it. E click does adapt based on the mode the truck is in. But it performs at it best when the trucks suspension mode is set to normal.

[@kalward7]

Wish I would have watched this video before buying my Eibach kit. Now Im a little worried about breaking stuff! Guess I need to get limit straps and try to avoid "bottoming out". Or maybe I should sell the Eibachs and get the top hat and a rear spacer? Definitely interested in getting the Eclick though.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Yeah, you still have options. Limit straps could help big time in the event of a failure. But you can easily get carried away with what else you’ll want like bump stops up front or shock bucket reinforcement. Sometimes it’s easier to stay close to stock. And that’s where Eclick and the top hats shine. Regardless, as long as you don’t overdrive the truck, you will be fine in the meantime. It’s easy to get carried away with these trucks because they are so capable and fun. Just remember, it’s still a stock truck.

[@goldcartridgegamer]

Amen to that comment about bad advice out there. The FB groups are the worst. I wish I had a reputable shop in my area to modify my gen1 buckets to run a live valve setup. I don't have enough confidence or tools to weld in a new bucket. Ended up looking at Fox 3.0 DSC / QAB for my truck.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Thanks man. I got so much bad advice there. Cringe that it still being perpetuated today. And If you call them out, You get crucified. Where are you based? I may know a shop near by.

[@goldcartridgegamer]

just saw this reply / comment. I am in Memphis, TN area.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Ok. Now I understand. That’s a tough part of the country. I’ll check with my mid west followers for recommendations and get back to you

[@goldcartridgegamer]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad just wanted to check in if you ever heard back from anyone in the midwest.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Sorry man. No, I have not heard of any options near Memphis after checking with a few guys. I would recommend asking on one of the forums, like Raptor Junkies, for recommendations. Lots of good guys there.

[@barrthom603]

So what is the best bang for the buck Gen 1 supercab setup? I was leaning towards Gen 2 shocks with KHC buckets and Gieser springs, now you have me not sure what to do. Midwest off road at Silver lake sand dunes, two tracking and daily driving.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Honestly, the best bang for you buck for the guy that mainly daily drives but wants a beast offroad is take off live valve shocks with the shock bucket upgrade and SDI Eclick. Also make sure you plan for rear Deavers and bump stops. All together is just about the same cost as FRS shock all around and will give you a ton more capability.

[@levisawyer]

Looking at putting gen2 shocks on a gen 1 with bucket conversion. Would you still recommend stock gen 2 springs with sdi top hat? How do you think the gen2 spring would do handling the added weight of the 6.2l?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

I still recommend them. The difference in weight between the 2 engines is like 200lbs. Most of the extra weight of the gen1 comes from the use of steel over aluminum. So the performance will be very similar and the Eclick system will compensate for the rest. So Eclick with the top hat, and gen2 live valves and the shock bucket conversion will transform the truck. If you want a bit more headroom for the weight you could look at the tube as well and that will help. And finally if you want even more headroom look at FRS live valves. Just keep in mind the limitations of the back end that wakes up at higher speeds

[@levisawyer]

Do you recommend installing bump stops on the rear with the live valve or is it not needed? I already have the icon springs on the rear.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

We did not cover it here because this is about just SDi, but bump stops on the back are a must as you learn to drive the truck faster.

[@levisawyer]

Awesome. Thank you for all your help. Keep up the good work.

[@jacobjavelona380]

I have a 2017 more on road and doing some occasional off road. Currently have a collar to level the truck. Will i benefit if go with a sdi top hat and go e click? Cush ride is what i'm after for on road and keep the truck capable for off road

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Yes if you replace the collar you will. 1 it’s less preload for similar height so you keep the springs softer rate. And 2nd Eclick will improve the trucks ride. Way less body roll. It will sit more level and ride smoother overall. And then when you need it, tap the trucks full potential offroad.

[@barrthom603]

how would you recommend getting proper ride height on a Gen 1 once you do spring buckets up front on Gen 2 live valve shocks? I have a buddy that just put Eibachs on his Gen 2 with live valve and its horrible off road, thing is a pogo stick up front. I dont want that. I was looking at SDI top hats and running stock front Gen 2 springs on front of the Gen 1. What would you do if you were doing a 2010 supercab 5.4l Raptor?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

That’s my go to recommendation these days. Spring upgrades are way too stiff and can cause damage overtime. Preload using collars or the top hat replacement is the best option even for the heavier gen1 front end

[@seanFour]

So you made a comment about the truck needing balance, I currently have FRS 3.0's in the front and in the rear I have stock suspension with Geiser springs. The truck is a little too raked currently, on top of your point you made me realize about the suspension needing to work together with the computer. I'm wondering what I should do. Just install FRS 3.0's in the rear? Go back to stock rear springs with other modifications? Do I also need the SDI tophat in the front? I think an obvious answer is to pick-up rear 3.0's, but else? Will this setup be ok with all around FRS 3.0's and rear Geisers? Whats best?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Responded to your email. Let me know if you have any more questions

[@mikepfeifer1753]

Are you team 35 package or OEM 37 package?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

So it depends. If you plan to keep it stock, get the 37s package. The little bit of extra height and slightly better shocks with warranty support are worth it even though you loose a little bit of travel. If you plan to upgrade and go wild, save your money and get the 35 model. You’ll be replacing the shocks and suspension anyways so why take on the extra cost.

[@11bangbang84]

Helio, what setup do you think Is best “bang for your buck” for a gen1? I live in the north east so not much baja to do but definitely want something capable. A friend recommended deavers and new stock shocks but I really want to know your take. Love your content! Thanks man.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

So like I say in the video, what is your focus for the truck? Is it your daily and want to maintain that Cush ride but still offroad? OR do you want to build it as an off-roader? SDI Eclick is the only way to get the best of both worlds on a budget. On a Gen1 is does get a little more expensive because you need to source the shocks and the shock bucket. Shoot me a DM on Instagram if you want to go more back and forth and a quicker response. But the answer really depends on your use of the truck and being honest on your priorities with it

[@11bangbang84]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad will do. Gotta create an account 1st😂

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

You can always email if your not comfortable with social media

[@kujonyanthawa594]

diiiiick. i just installed eibach on the front of my 2019 and icons in the rear

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Be careful with that front man. Inspect it often and look into the limit strap kits EXO mentioned or removing those springs and switching to a collar or top hat replacement

[@kujonyanthawa594]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I am going to order the evil engineering straps. Used them on my Gen 1. Worked good. Also, when I go to the hammer website, then to Gen 2, there is no option for the 19-20 trucks. Only retrofit for the 17/18

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Do a search for SDI when you get to the hammerbuilt site. I also put a link to that search below for all the SDi stuff on sale

[@matthewcamargo9175]

Have you made the change to SDI on the gen 1?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

I haven’t. But not for lack of trying. I could do it on the front shocks. But not my rears. I’m running a full mid travel build and my rear shocks are race series 4.0s. The current valves being used do not support the amount of oil that flows through those shocks. SDI tried it and the preassure alone would open the valve. Need to wait till Fox releases larger valves from their race testing. But those are still a few years out. Only sponsored race teams can get those.

[@matthewcamargo9175]

Thanks for the quick reply. I have a stock gen 1 and interested in trying this kit. Was thinking about fox 3.0 or even icons but this Sdi kit has me very interested . Being that this works with live shocks and gen 1s don’t come with them, does SDI sell them for the gen 1s and install?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

No they don’t. In order to run live valves on your truck, you will need to upgrade the front shock bucket and source take off shocks from a gen2 OR surcharge the live valve Fox FRS shocks.

[@matthewcamargo9175]

Would you recommend eibach springs with mid perch ?

[@emac4925]

Do they have this for the Gen 1 raptors?

[@emac4925]

Never mind I herd you say they have. Gen1 option

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Yes they do. It’s a more universal kit, but yes you can make it work and we talk about what’s required in the video. Let me know if you have any questions

[@Rommer2258]

Im a firm believer that a vehicle should be property strapped. The shocks shouldn't be holding the weight of the suspension it should be a quality limit strap. Overtime the shocks are going to separate from use. However the springs are expediting the failure.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Yeah. There is a lot going on with these springs upgrades. And definitely don’t recommend them at all.

[@johnheath4305]

Can E click make my 2020 softer? It sounds like it can’t all it can do is add stiffness.

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

What do you mean by softer? Softer on the road or softer offroad? Onroad you will get a flatter smoother ride with less jitter. Stock the truck tends to have a ton of body roll and is a little rough. With Eclick it will run more consistent and much smoother and will corner better with less body roll. Offroad, that’s a different story. Common misconception is that a more capable suspension is softer. It’s not, it is in fact stiffer and dampens the hits better so you don’t feel them as much. The beauty in the Eclick system is that I will respond faster and better than the stock setup. So it will stiffen instantly to soften a hit and then immediately soften to avoid rebounding and stiffen again to level you out. The goal being to run flatter. Yes you will still feel it. But it will be a lot smoother overall and you won’t be getting bounced around. The smoothest ride onroad will be maintained if you keep the stock springs without any other modification.

[@johnheath4305]

Thanks for the reply I feel like I need to read this 100 more times before I understand. One baseline fact that seems to emerge about the e-click is that it works on top of the raptor modes, so it can’t be any softer than the softest mode which I think is “normal“ is that fair? Maybe “rock crawl”is the softest mode?

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

Softest mode on the Raptor is normal. Even in rock crawl the system restricts flow. In all version of the systems (gen2-3), Eclick takes over control of the shocks. So you can run smoother in any mode. The modes do have some impacts on Eclick, but not on suspension control. Things like throttle response and stuff like that impacts Eclick because it’s always trying to keep you running flat. Slam on the gas’s and it will stiffen the back end. Hard brake and it will stiffen the front shocks. Now as far as a smooth ride, the Eclick system will get you a smoother ride than stock. Because like I said the stock setup is very jittery with a ton of body roll that adds to the perception of a rough ride. Eclick will reduce body roll and instantly react to bumps and obstacles making for a smoother ride. No the shocks are not softer, but the algorithm Eclick uses will make the truck feel smoother.

[@salhernandez83]

Do you think the hd setup he had on the frs shock raptor was messing with eclicks? Do you think the frs would perform better with sd leafs and less loaded?

[@salhernandez83]

Were the frs you guys tested revalved by sdi?

[@Robstunner]

If only I could get one of these garbage ford dealerships to warranty my known shock clunking issue…

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

What’s going on man? Are the shocks coming loose on your gen3? Or what’s going on?

[@Robstunner]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad there’s an SSM on em. Clunking shocks on 21-mid 22 raptors. SSM 50972. I literally bought a GoPro to prove to the dealer they clunk. They’ve been playing games about it for weeks.

[@Robstunner]

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad sent you the video on IG

[@KeepItDirtyOffRoad]

That’s sound is nuts man. Definitely should not happen.

[@danworley4028]

Look for the gap between the Outer tube and top cap/seal case - there's no arguing that!