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Sir Keir Starmer joins Nick Ferrari to answer your questions.
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@rhamel-su5pi
@rhamel-su5pi Жыл бұрын
What I love about this argument is that the Tories think we'll all forget about the actual evidence - the suitcase, the sick, the swing, the photos, the cover-up, the cynical search for plausible deniability... like they think they're going to get off on a technicality. The more they shout, the more we remember...
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 Жыл бұрын
These events were all the fault oh civil servants who were rightly fined. They worked for Senior bods like Sue Gray. Get over yourselves children and consider yourself schooled by an expert.
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
​@@lestrem11 The tories have had enough of experts remember. I've heard Johnson is in the Guinness book of records, he once told the truth.
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 Жыл бұрын
@@royboy565 Ah, you are back to stalking me again child. It didn’t end well for you last time did it? I am no fan of Boris but to pretend Starmer is any different is ludicrous. But then you are……have fun at school tomorrow child.
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
​@@lestrem11 Didn't end well for you. Your comments are ill thought out, here say, whataboutery and basically lies. Any child in the old junior school could outsmart the trembling trem.
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 Жыл бұрын
Nor will we forget Keith Steamer lying and breaking all party rules to remove and keep out Corbyn. Neither will we forget him dismissing the Forde Report that he commissioned when it didn't back his version of events.
@benargspeilburg3922
@benargspeilburg3922 Жыл бұрын
I dropped my Labour membership about 6-8 months back, feel very disillusioned by the actions of Mr Starmer
@spotsterjon74cu
@spotsterjon74cu Жыл бұрын
Be under no illusion Sir Starmer is no better than those he is so keen to replace!
@YesRowntree
@YesRowntree Жыл бұрын
This is more about inability of tories to conceive that someone is capable of doing a job with integrity, honesty and professionalism.
@derekibison6644
@derekibison6644 Жыл бұрын
Bob on.
@chatham43
@chatham43 Жыл бұрын
...but can we find that someone.?
@derekibison6644
@derekibison6644 Жыл бұрын
@@chatham43 We can, they can’t.
@damianleah6744
@damianleah6744 Жыл бұрын
So now it’s Starmer’s fault for Johnson’s illegal parties. When is someone in Johnson’s circle going to just say we messed up. It’s always someone else’s fault. Not me gov. Except you were the government. It’s ridiculous.
@nightowl7459
@nightowl7459 Жыл бұрын
@Damian Lee Oh dear, keep crying because snake Starmer has made Johnson look like he's been stitched up.
@dragonfly6908
@dragonfly6908 Жыл бұрын
I will never be convinced about the outcome of Saint IKEA Starmer's "Beer and Curry party", sorry "work event", wink, wink.
@damianleah6744
@damianleah6744 Жыл бұрын
@@dragonfly6908 well he isn’t the prime minister and he wasn’t then either, so trying to defend the indefensible with deflection is ridiculous.
@SpenceJS87
@SpenceJS87 Жыл бұрын
@@dragonfly6908 Cringe, stop deflecting.
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 Жыл бұрын
Keith Steamer is no more honest. How many pledges has he broken now? And let's not forget his own mini-partygate for which he had his own excuses.
@cpuuk
@cpuuk Жыл бұрын
Starmer isn't the best leader Labour could have chosen.
@michaelathanasiou2030
@michaelathanasiou2030 Жыл бұрын
He asked her before the Boris finding--it's so obvious
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
​@@michaelathanasiou2030 Keep crying and lying tory boy.
@LightningStrikeify
@LightningStrikeify Жыл бұрын
Sue Gray did her report waaaay before any job discussions would’ve happened. The suggestion she would’ve been swayed is total BS, not only because of that, but because of how it needed to match up with police findings.
@martinseal1987
@martinseal1987 Жыл бұрын
You're right so why did he go into repeat mode
@greamespens1460
@greamespens1460 Жыл бұрын
​@@martinseal1987 agreed he could have easily said a month ago or X months after the report.
@martinseal1987
@martinseal1987 Жыл бұрын
He could have said he couldn't say, that it was private, that it's irrelevant, the repeat mode thing makes him look like this is what he'll be like in office
@calmstorm666
@calmstorm666 Жыл бұрын
do you like work for starmer somehow?
@czgibson3086
@czgibson3086 Жыл бұрын
You're right, it's BS, but this appointment still gives the Tories an open goal to claim impropriety so it was an unwise decision.
@whatwentwrong4599
@whatwentwrong4599 Жыл бұрын
They still did all those things in the report, what difference does it make? They aren't sorry, they're only sorry they got caught and this reaction from the Boris cult just shows this.
@martinseal1987
@martinseal1987 Жыл бұрын
Your right so why did he go into repeat mode
@whatwentwrong4599
@whatwentwrong4599 Жыл бұрын
@@martinseal1987 I haven't a clue. Only thing I can think is perhaps other candidates won't be happy with the process, especially if they had wasted time on interviews etc when Kier had been tapping up Sue for months and was always going to give her the position if she wanted it? Only thing that comes to mind which isn't on the dodgy side. He did say it would be released in future as well.
@whatwentwrong4599
@whatwentwrong4599 Жыл бұрын
@@martinseal1987 Maybe he wants to keep it in the headlines, keep Party gate at the front of the public's mind as long as possible and keep the Tories saying absolute garbage and making themselves look like conspiracy nuts for as long as possible, then drop the dates to show there was 0 connection while Sue was doing the report?
@martinseal1987
@martinseal1987 Жыл бұрын
Yh I've heard this take, I'm not sure he's playing 4d chess here
@whatwentwrong4599
@whatwentwrong4599 Жыл бұрын
@@martinseal1987 He did have a little glimmar is his eye like all will be revealed. I don't know ofc but wouldn't surprise me if it was a tactic to keep this in the media. Have the Tories jump on it like crazy, then Labour to squash it and make them look a bit silly.
@reeling-in
@reeling-in Жыл бұрын
Comrade Starmer is full of it! He should be ‘working’ at LBC!😂😂😂
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 Жыл бұрын
And will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔 not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
@tammyjanjan2892
@tammyjanjan2892 Жыл бұрын
Oh so when Downing Street were literally throwing daily parties during lockdown I should just get over it, but when a civil servant changes jobs I’m supposed to be outraged? Only an absolute idiot would fall for that one
@IronKill92
@IronKill92 Жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Kier Starmer says "Nothing improper"
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 Жыл бұрын
Who’s cares apart from boris lovers
@michaelathanasiou2030
@michaelathanasiou2030 Жыл бұрын
His broken the ministerial code ( Boris resigned for the same reason) where's his integrity
@superhumantrueman
@superhumantrueman Жыл бұрын
@@michaelathanasiou2030 "His broken the ministerial code" - Has he?
@uqs57bju
@uqs57bju Жыл бұрын
@@michaelathanasiou2030 Based on the lack of evidence in some of your other comments. I'd like some evidence on this claim. You say he has broken the ministerial code, then show us how. There should be clear evidence for this. Either you have broken the law or you haven't.
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
​@@uqs57bju Tory boy knows he hasn't broke any code, he is just desperate for any wrongdoing by Starmer. He banged on about Starmer and beer gate and kept quiet when the police cleared him. He is just a desperate tory.
@MrViper5822
@MrViper5822 Жыл бұрын
​@@michaelathanasiou2030Boris resigned following the Pincher incident. Nothing to do with him "possibly" intentionally breaking the ministerial code.
@spjm17
@spjm17 Жыл бұрын
Even if Sue Gray applied to labour prior to her doing the report, wasn't it Boris that selected her. She didn't go out of her way to do the report. She was selected. Also, THE PARTIES ACTUALLY HAPPENED. What! Are the Tories suggesting that she made up these parties that they somehow had to come out and admit happened even though they didn't. Laughable and embarrassing
@tomgreen2737
@tomgreen2737 Жыл бұрын
He also doesn't know the difference between a man and a woman.
@VictorCharlesEvans
@VictorCharlesEvans Жыл бұрын
But the BORISKI'S APPOINTMENT OF THE BBC CHAIRMAN DOESN'T STINK?? THE BORISKI APPOINTMENT OF THE BBC CHAIRMAN ABSOLUTELY REEKS!!!!!
@justin-tyme
@justin-tyme Жыл бұрын
Boris and Co. still did everything we've seen in the pictures etc etc so why are they clutching at straws?
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 Жыл бұрын
What pictures?
@justin-tyme
@justin-tyme Жыл бұрын
@@lestrem11 the photos of the parties in lockdown / while restrictions were in place...
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 Жыл бұрын
@@justin-tyme That was Starmer and Rayner you muppet. Have you been living on the moon?
@mcgoverg1
@mcgoverg1 Жыл бұрын
@@lestrem11 you’ve chosen not to remember all of those pictures of Johnson then. As I’ve said on another thread, you are beyond deluded.
@justin-tyme
@justin-tyme Жыл бұрын
@@mcgoverg1 he's just a troll... Shouldn't have fed him going by his idiotic question.
@czgibson3086
@czgibson3086 Жыл бұрын
"We have changed the Labour party" Yes, you've driven hundreds of thousands of members to give up on the party and leave.
@mrdaveythebaby
@mrdaveythebaby Жыл бұрын
Errr sure thing, mate. You going to vote Tory then? There's no one with decent values and a brain who will vote Tory at the next election.
@calmstorm666
@calmstorm666 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdaveythebaby Darling.. starmer is a rightwinger.. you will have conservatinve labour party so with election change will be only cosmetic
@czgibson3086
@czgibson3086 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdaveythebaby Nothing could convince me to vote Tory at the next election after the damage they've done to this country.
@jedfra9172
@jedfra9172 Жыл бұрын
@@mrdaveythebaby Least of 2 evils. Fantastic what a great choice we have.
@calmstorm666
@calmstorm666 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisj9700 you should check your head mate. Communist? antisemitic? did you drink some lead paint as a child ?
@alanbatty3825
@alanbatty3825 Жыл бұрын
Most enlightening. I see nothing for Ferrari to laugh at, which say's something about one of us. On Starmer not answering questions - what's new ? He's another Blair.
@mauricelee4203
@mauricelee4203 Жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration of 'methinks he protesteth too much'. I wonder what he could be hiding.
@nigeltrigger4499
@nigeltrigger4499 Жыл бұрын
Sue Gray working for Labour does not in any way change what she reported on in Partygate - she didn't make anything up she simply reported it. I don't care when she was approached by Labour!
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 Жыл бұрын
And will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔 not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
@timballam3675
@timballam3675 Жыл бұрын
It's part of an employment contract so her permission may be required to divulge full details....
@danmayberry1185
@danmayberry1185 Жыл бұрын
Yes, she is about to divulge to the gov't watchdog, rather than to media. Sir Keir is right to defer.
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 Жыл бұрын
Even more suspicious if her contract prevents SOMEONE ELSE from saying when they met her.
@timballam3675
@timballam3675 Жыл бұрын
@@trevorberridge6079 not in the slightest, your employment details are yours not those of the general public, that's why 30p got so much grief for giving out an employee's circumstances... Would you like your employer to give out your details?
@mitchowenow3593
@mitchowenow3593 Жыл бұрын
"nothing improper". 7 times. That would suggest to anyone that something improper is going on
@emckinley1977
@emckinley1977 Жыл бұрын
ofc comments are turned on for him.
@binkyboobosh1
@binkyboobosh1 Жыл бұрын
...Gray was appointed by the tories as an independent investigator, not Labour. We were told a thousand times by the tories that she was independent. The police independently investigated the parties and issued 126...yes, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX fines to tory staff, including Johnson and Sunak. The 'Abba' party wasn't investigated. Gray needs a job and Starmer knows the law. Nuff said...
@binkyboobosh1
@binkyboobosh1 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisj9700 It's been disclosed now. Are you suggesting that all public investigations are to be conducted by people without any political views, or with only right wing views? You'd have trouble finding anyone. Also, the tories selected her because she is trustworthy. She is no longer in post and can work for anyone she wants. This is no scandal....if it is,we all need to look at Dido Harding and where our 32bn went. Also, at the Met Police under tory plant C.Dick who fined 126 tories, independently of the Gray report, but who didn't investigate the Abba party which was entirely down to Johnson and his wife...
@NWard1210
@NWard1210 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisj9700Except her report is genuine because it matches the police report following an independent investigation - tories can’t and won’t be allowed to wriggle out of this one.
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
​@@chrisj9700 allegations of bias is just that.. allegations. She didn't make up the photos or put words in workers mouths or make up the damning what's app messages of the Downing Street staff. Tories are desperate and it shows. Makes them look even more guilty.
@geoffmorris1769
@geoffmorris1769 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisj9700 Clutching at straws with that nonsense comment? She toned down her report at the request of Johnson's cronies. How on earth was she biased. The Old Bill issued 126 fines. Where they biased as well? Pathetic.
@drummingtildeath
@drummingtildeath Жыл бұрын
​@Chris J what conflict of interest?
@ChristopherDazey
@ChristopherDazey Жыл бұрын
If you thought her investigation into the several parties, which the police acted upon with full confidence, was somehow improper or ‘tainted,’ then your first logical move would be to ask for a new investigation into those parties, not into her. But of course all that would do is remind everyone of how awful Boris is.
@glynsmith4590
@glynsmith4590 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough bringing it all back into the headlines hardly helps Boris!!!!
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 Жыл бұрын
Yes Boris was awful but unfortunately so is Kier. Boris and his dad is not as dad as Kier and the monster Tom Watson…..
@CharltonCharles
@CharltonCharles Жыл бұрын
@@lestrem11🙄
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 Жыл бұрын
@@CharltonCharles You don’t even know who Tom Watson is do you? He is a monster who Starmer promoted for two years in an insane bid to make him a peer. Keep up child.
@mcgoverg1
@mcgoverg1 Жыл бұрын
@@lestrem11 if you truly believe that Starmer is worse than Johnson you are beyond deluded. Knowing all that we know about Johnson, never mind what is yet to come out, he is demonstrably the worst thing that has happened to democracy in this country
@MB-dh1kk
@MB-dh1kk Жыл бұрын
Rees-Mogg, Dorris and co are all on video saying how integral Sue Gray is (she was a Tory for 12 years). Now she's delivered her damning report, they're crying as usual and lying.
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 Жыл бұрын
Just as Steamer (as in Steaming Pile) is trying to bury the Forde Report.
@BenWilcox-vl8ed
@BenWilcox-vl8ed Жыл бұрын
We are dealing with traitorous individuals here, and those of the Labour 'woke' party, are by far the most dangerous people in this country. We all remember that Starmer and those others on the opposition front bench were fanatical Corbynites, they now expect people to believe they have changed ... they HAVEN'T!
@iommi1991
@iommi1991 Жыл бұрын
@@trevorberridge6079 if you have to explain it it doesn’t work.
@tonyloomes3917
@tonyloomes3917 Жыл бұрын
Starmer tells more lies than Boris
@peteredmondson5980
@peteredmondson5980 Жыл бұрын
I think the general problem is that the politicians are unable to give a straight answer, to a straight question, and I think that has led to a general mistrust of all politicians that politicians don’t seem to grasp that there can be no ambiguity in their answers anymore. Otherwise, they all look as bad as one another, also remembering that Kia Starmer is also a former prosecuting lawyer, It’s just that they are going to lose all credibility if they don’t step up to the Mark and see what’s what
@liamstanley2325
@liamstanley2325 Жыл бұрын
Peter Edmondson Entirely agree at this stage he for one should be much better than this by now. If it's a deliberate ploy to keep the focus on the events of 2 years ago & make them look silly down the line when the actual truth comes out well that makes some sense but we don't know the reason for this obfuscation to be sure.
@pearls2733
@pearls2733 Жыл бұрын
If their is nothing improper ,then just tell the truth! Why come across shady and dodging the question???
@SamLowryDZ-015
@SamLowryDZ-015 Жыл бұрын
Sorry Nick - you'll just have to wait for The Sue Gray Report .🤣🤣🤣
@toogyman
@toogyman Жыл бұрын
Ah genius ! 👏
@ryiin
@ryiin Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@danielthompson3809
@danielthompson3809 Жыл бұрын
regardless of where he stands on the matter we need Keir (who he thinks is the next primeminister) to be transparent.
@TimMcKnight
@TimMcKnight Жыл бұрын
I was quite high on him when he started out but a bunch of 180's and interviews like this has certainly changed my mind about that. I won't vote Tory and never have but Labour are only a few pegs along the same rung IMO. Things just wouldn't be as bad.
@binkyboobosh1
@binkyboobosh1 Жыл бұрын
He is being transparent. Do investigators all have to be tory supporters? If Gray had been offered a job by the tories, would there be any complaint and would we ever get to know about it? Also, wasn't it the tories who appointed Gray to do the investigation. This is absurd tory desperation....
@TimMcKnight
@TimMcKnight Жыл бұрын
@@binkyboobosh1 agreed BUT why is he making himself look guilty by not being direct with a simple question. Doesn’t encourage trust all that much…
@jedfra9172
@jedfra9172 Жыл бұрын
@@TimMcKnight He doesn't deserve trust. The Tories are toast but what a shame we only have the realistic option of replacing them with this 2 faced, backstabbing Tory in red. Anyone who doesn't believe he is just as bad do some more digging into how he politically assassinated others to climb his way to the top. A Tory trait through and through.
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 Жыл бұрын
But will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔 not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
@An-Alien-On-Earth
@An-Alien-On-Earth Жыл бұрын
Labour can never be allowed to be in power
@jrobs1133
@jrobs1133 Жыл бұрын
Here's a video of the leader of the Labour Party lying.
@BarryCampbell6822
@BarryCampbell6822 Жыл бұрын
You can always easily tell when Starmer's lying. His lips move.
@turntheblueiris4626
@turntheblueiris4626 Жыл бұрын
& that, ladies & gentlemen, is why Baz is not a comedian
@camcairns2584
@camcairns2584 Жыл бұрын
Starmer really needs to wake up - the days of refusing to answer a simple question by transparent deflection are over.
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
Tell that to every tory minister.
@LAD907
@LAD907 Жыл бұрын
Oh, so it was Starmer that appointed her and forced her upon Johnson and the Tory Party was it? ERm,No, it wasn't Starmer nor anyone in the Labour party who appointed SG to produce the report, it was Johnson who appointed her, he had full backing of his party. Don't forget though Johnson did prevent her report from being published in full. At some point the truth about the totally shambolic handling of the pandemic will come to light, unfortunately, those responsible will be long gone from politics and more than likely living in other countries, benefitting from the spoils of their political careers, in a place where they cannot be held responsible for their despicable actions.
@ArtyFactual_Intelligence
@ArtyFactual_Intelligence Жыл бұрын
scumbags, the lot of 'em
@dragonfly6908
@dragonfly6908 Жыл бұрын
It has been reported in the media that there is a photo of Saint IKEA Starmer standing next to Sue Gray's activist son. This photo was allegedly taken during the "Party Gate" inquiry.
@LAD907
@LAD907 Жыл бұрын
@@dragonfly6908 Just to add.Boris is and always has been a liar, that's just FACT not a labour conspiracy. He's been sacked from EVERY job he's had for lying and cheated on every partner he has had so it doesn't need a report to see what he is
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 Жыл бұрын
And will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔 not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
@eversonthomas8922
@eversonthomas8922 Жыл бұрын
Keir Starmers dad was a tool maker. He made tools.
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 Жыл бұрын
And will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔 not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
@Iazzaboyce
@Iazzaboyce Жыл бұрын
Actually Keir, it was your opposition to Brexit which caused the 2019 Labour defeat. Jeremy Corbyn almost won in 2017 when the voters trusted Labour on Brexit. The MSM had been giving Jeremy Corbyn a hard time, but when people were able to get a more balanced view during the election campaign they voted for Jeremy. You have been getting an easy ride Keir and _'as it happens'_ the voters will getting a more balanced view of you at the next election campaign.
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 Жыл бұрын
Corbyn gets slandered 24/7 but Starmer get the kid gloves from the billionaire owned media I don't wonder why. we never see anything about the Forde Report in the "news" only the Gray.
@RossTheNinja
@RossTheNinja Жыл бұрын
It's fine. Nothing to see here
@dragonfly6908
@dragonfly6908 Жыл бұрын
Time for Saint IKEA Starmer to be wheeled out to grass.
@rickin2g
@rickin2g Жыл бұрын
You can't deal with work matters in private companies on whatsapp. Policies against this. Ridiculous how they think you can do it in a government.
@juancarlosmateo8453
@juancarlosmateo8453 Жыл бұрын
I see Starmer still can’t answer a direct question.
@davecross4493
@davecross4493 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he's allowed to say in this case as it involves Sue Grey and it's about her privacy. The headline is not very fair.
@georginathomas7650
@georginathomas7650 Жыл бұрын
I suspect he'd discussed it with her some time ago and then stopped whilst she was undertaking her investigation
@davidmyers4056
@davidmyers4056 Жыл бұрын
All our politicians are Just terrible. They all took lessons from Nixon.
@mendozamoore366
@mendozamoore366 Жыл бұрын
Let’s see more tories on James O’Brien
@Jonnyonthespot123
@Jonnyonthespot123 Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't dare, James would have their metaphorical trousers around their ankles in minutes!
@taras6806
@taras6806 Жыл бұрын
@@Jonnyonthespot123 Oh yep. So let's hope we don' t actually 'see' them... that would be two wriggly worms in one person., if male....
@richybatty234
@richybatty234 Жыл бұрын
That would be wonderful to witness . But O'Brien is too clever for them .. he would rip them all to shreds
@taras6806
@taras6806 Жыл бұрын
@@richybatty234 Absolutely! ... but.. One of the reasons it would be wonderful to witness' also one of the reasons they tend to shy away from JOB.
@danmayberry1185
@danmayberry1185 Жыл бұрын
After the watershed - the blood and entrails would be too much for daytime.
@keithparker2206
@keithparker2206 Жыл бұрын
Tories are desperate to denigrate Sue Gray's report and save Boris! Not going to work - even with Nick Ferrarri's help.
@adamibrahim7338
@adamibrahim7338 Жыл бұрын
How is Nick Ferrari helping the tories??? He's not even an MP
@wisepranker
@wisepranker Жыл бұрын
... so why did not Starmer answer the question?
@andreusredloff2252
@andreusredloff2252 Жыл бұрын
Right out of the Mandelson/ Blair play book.
@stuartbrierley3381
@stuartbrierley3381 Жыл бұрын
Why does he now look dodgy ? Bye not answering a question? What's he hiding
@theRickestRickOfAll
@theRickestRickOfAll Жыл бұрын
he's so slimey, it's disgusting
@concerned-citizen
@concerned-citizen Жыл бұрын
Anyone wanna see an evasive piece of slime trying to pass itself off as a man of integrity?
@darrennandrewfitness2836
@darrennandrewfitness2836 Жыл бұрын
What people don't get clearly Stammer has worked with Sue and knew Sue way before the enquiry and even he has said he knew Sue time ago. People are complaining about conflict of interest. Set that aside as I totally see nothing wrong with the appointment at all but are we going to ignore the evidence and facts from her findings are still there Boris was partying it up and he mislead parliament 😂😂😂
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 Жыл бұрын
civil servants can end up serving multiple governments. Quite the chance gray was in when labour were last in.
@GameDevAcademy
@GameDevAcademy Жыл бұрын
And MPs wonder why they aren't trusted...
@gixxerman0016
@gixxerman0016 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Tell them nothing for a while, let the torys make their obvious idiotic & totally hypocritical smears (Frost anyone?) & later on let the facts come out. Politics done right.
@chatham43
@chatham43 Жыл бұрын
....and you are aware of the facts...?
@gixxerman0016
@gixxerman0016 Жыл бұрын
@@chatham43 I do know that you only have to watch the video to see Starmer clearly say that he approached Sue Gray long after she finished her report. He didn't give details, he said that was her business & up to her. It'll drag out a while yet, give it plenty of time & let the torys heap a ton or 2 of the inevitable egg that's going to land on their faces. Frost (& several others) just proves what hypocrites those torys are.
@meddylad
@meddylad Жыл бұрын
He is obviously lying as he cant answer a simple question..., he knows but he wont say because it IS improper
@HelenaBlack80
@HelenaBlack80 Жыл бұрын
People are acting like the report was based on Sue Grays personal opinion of the Tories when it’s actually based on overwhelming picture and witness evidence! I heard one commenter say had this been a criminal investigation the perpetrators would have had no choice but to plead guilty. The fact that people find impropriety here is astonishing.
@Paul-eb4jp
@Paul-eb4jp Жыл бұрын
The Sue Grey report was published in January 2022, his former Chief of Staff left in October 2022, so he wasn't looking for a Chief of staff until way after the report so why is this even a thing? I suspect Starmer is going to allow it to reach a crescendo then make everyone look a bit daft by allowing Sue Grey to release it.
@feekygucker2678
@feekygucker2678 Жыл бұрын
I’m too old not believe the opposite when I hear “nothing improper” occurred when it gets repeated that often 🤔.
@ArtyFactual_Intelligence
@ArtyFactual_Intelligence Жыл бұрын
But you may be too old.
@feekygucker2678
@feekygucker2678 Жыл бұрын
@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence too old to fall for BS no matter who is shovelling it: already stated. I was inclined to think Gray probably chose sides after having to survey the rot in Downing St. I don’t think this interview put anything to rest, for me quite the opposite.
@davidsmith5523
@davidsmith5523 Жыл бұрын
Yes in the abscence of facts. Make up your own. Perhaps nothing improper occurred? Did that occur to you?
@feekygucker2678
@feekygucker2678 Жыл бұрын
@@davidsmith5523 tbh I didn’t think there was anything improper until hearing the repeated, specific denial that there was. Indeed there may be undisclosed reasons for details not to be aired at this stage; Kier is often ‘legalistic’ in his speech, being laudably careful with his words. At best though, it was naive interview technique. Also… for the record, I don’t much care; it’s an imperfect world, and I think both Gray and Starmer represent public service far better than the current incumbents. This is just a cynical observation that everything is in shades of grey 🙂.
@davidsmith5523
@davidsmith5523 Жыл бұрын
@feekygucker I understand all of that, but it's our impatience and the demands of the insatiable media st play here. Nick is pursuing an agenda. To imply impropriety. Starmer is holding him at bay by giving NOTHING away. We are conditioned by the media to probe for probing sake. To be impatient. It fuels anger and adrenaline thus sells advertising time. I'm willing to wait. Yes we could be lied to. But we can judge at that point. To prejudge now would reveal our bias or prejudice, not necessarily a truth. I know that I do not know. But time will tell. For me the Conservatives such as Rees-Mogg and Gove come out of this far worse as they told us that Sue Gray had the highest integrity, right up until the very microbsecond that she delivered a report that they did not like. Frankly, a report that was utterly damning to them. So does this procedural thing matter compared to all that has gone before? Not to me. Does having someone as high calibre as Sue Gray overseeing the doings of the Labour Party matter. To me it's a creditable appointment. It suggests integrity of intent. Did Nick recognise that at any point? To me that matters more.
@uniquevideosUk
@uniquevideosUk Жыл бұрын
Here comes the flip flopper who constantly turns everything around.. Like a stuck record with not a single piece of honest substance, he's such an hypocrite is Starmer I mean come on.. He can't even answer questions on anything with straight answers, it's like he's still a lawyer not a PM to be.
@onelove9339
@onelove9339 Жыл бұрын
Starmer cannot be trusted 🐍
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
Johnson, Truss and Sunak cannot be trusted. That leaves Ed Davey.
@onelove9339
@onelove9339 Жыл бұрын
@@royboy565 add Ed Davey to that list. It seems the entire political class cannot be trusted.
@mrd64
@mrd64 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Johnson wants to give his dad a knighthood...
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 Жыл бұрын
Well Starmer gave his boyfriend one…..
@claudiafigueiredo4979
@claudiafigueiredo4979 Жыл бұрын
Why is that important to know
@AM2K2
@AM2K2 Жыл бұрын
Seems important enough to avoid answering...
@Hayfever33
@Hayfever33 Жыл бұрын
Tony Blair 2.0
@56NeilWatson
@56NeilWatson Жыл бұрын
But it's OK for Boris Bunter's father to gt a knighthood?
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 Жыл бұрын
Well they gave your dad Tom one didn’t they? And he is a monster ( and Kiers boyfriend).
@dm32904
@dm32904 Жыл бұрын
war criminals and paedophile's only
@andrewwalsh2755
@andrewwalsh2755 Жыл бұрын
Would it be in the public interest to know who sponsored Kier Starmers, by invitation only, membership of the Trilateral Commission?... I think it would...
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
Russians sponsor the tories as well as dodgy business men.
@bosco008
@bosco008 Жыл бұрын
100% there was something improper.
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
With Johnson and his parties in number 10 definitely.
@CERWINVEGAredRING
@CERWINVEGAredRING Жыл бұрын
Hahaha pleb tory gammon
@turntheblueiris4626
@turntheblueiris4626 Жыл бұрын
So you can tell us what it is then?
@martinseal1987
@martinseal1987 Жыл бұрын
This was a Trainwreck such an easy thing to do, why were comments turned off for that video and not this one?
@Iazzaboyce
@Iazzaboyce Жыл бұрын
So, we have two former party leaders being ousted from UK politics - I wonder who these anti-EU UK politicians could have annoyed?
@toogyman
@toogyman Жыл бұрын
My take on this morning Starmer wants this debate on Sue Grey to continue It looks to me like he wants this line of questioning to carry on a little more He thinks he’s on solid ground in all this I suspect he’s right about that After all We all have eyes ears and memory
@ArtyFactual_Intelligence
@ArtyFactual_Intelligence Жыл бұрын
Sue Gray has credibility. Bojo has None
@dragonfly6908
@dragonfly6908 Жыл бұрын
I will never be convinced about the outcome of Saint IKEA Starmer's "Beer and Curry party", sorry "Work Event", wink, wink.
@turntheblueiris4626
@turntheblueiris4626 Жыл бұрын
@@dragonfly6908 That says more about you
@roycampbell5605
@roycampbell5605 Жыл бұрын
Who cares what sue gray does the cons are probably glad to get rid of her
@malcolmholmes9166
@malcolmholmes9166 Жыл бұрын
Keir Starmer is only using the same methods as that lot do all the time.
@mrdaveythebaby
@mrdaveythebaby Жыл бұрын
Tories can't imagine anyone jot being as corrupt as them...
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 Жыл бұрын
He refused to answer the question, keep up child.
@jasonfrost4483
@jasonfrost4483 Жыл бұрын
How these politicians crawl is spectacular
@Litheon11
@Litheon11 Жыл бұрын
Explain how he is crawling?
@wjarnock44
@wjarnock44 Жыл бұрын
Its obvious it was improper. I mean what an idiot?? Hundreds of people in the civil service and he picks her.
@f1remandg
@f1remandg Жыл бұрын
I don’t care if he refused or failed to answer when he approached her, he is the former head of the justice prosecution service and has not been found guilty of one single misdemeanour, his recruitment I suggest, was because he saw an honest person who has done her job and exposed a serial lier, cheat, parasite who wormed his way into positions of power after being sacked as an MP and is still trying to plead innocence, no smoke without and if your at the pointy end as much as Johnson has and still is, I would suggest that it’s a brilliant appointment, Johnson, Hancock, Rees Mogg, Baker, are corrupt as are many others and they as Johnson once said on TV interview, I start so many issues like a grenade, that sends out shrapnel, no one knows where to go or which to follow. This is the most corrupt inept government that has shown itself to be self serving and as seems to be the pattern forming in these situations, the fingers are being pointed at a man who has the political skill and tenacity to end this disgusting virus that is ruining the U.K. and it’s citizens. DG former Conservative voter of 50 years until 2015 I am a fit and healthy 72 year old male
@jeffersonwaters9970
@jeffersonwaters9970 Жыл бұрын
What kind of answer is that? Does he realise how shifty that sounds?
@frankpaterson9786
@frankpaterson9786 Жыл бұрын
Get the public inquiry put to bed within a year from now, that's what;s needed. I'm sure there was nothing improper, just answer the question Starmer.
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 Жыл бұрын
nothing on the Forde Report i see. 🤔
@ElMatti233
@ElMatti233 Жыл бұрын
Lifelong labour voter. I think it's really poor how he cannot answer this simple question. BRING BACK CORBYN
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
No thanks.
@andrewheron2399
@andrewheron2399 Жыл бұрын
The government were awful during the pandemic...as were pretty much every government around the world, except Sweden. Do I think the Labour government would have done any better...no way!
@andrewheron2399
@andrewheron2399 Жыл бұрын
@Zory2871 whereas Starmer just tinkered round the edges of what the government did. Note that the PM is not the only person in government and does not attend all COBRA meeting. Finally, I have already said the government were awful.
@jeremylawrence5855
@jeremylawrence5855 Жыл бұрын
Boris is on the look out for a Knighthood for his father to supplement the House of Lords seat for his brother and the tories think that Sue Grays possible appointments by the Labour Party is questionable!
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 Жыл бұрын
but will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔 not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
@babycannis9667
@babycannis9667 Жыл бұрын
Why didn’t Nick have Boris on his show asking how many parties he attended at Downing Street ?
@peteraleksandrovich5923
@peteraleksandrovich5923 Жыл бұрын
"That's got to be laid out by Sue." Asked and answered.
@Musical_Man_Guitar
@Musical_Man_Guitar Жыл бұрын
Why has it, a conversation takes two. No, I'm afraid this looks very bad and doesn't bode well. Starmer is not an honest man.
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
​@@Musical_Man_Guitar You must be watching a different clip.
@cathcath1324
@cathcath1324 Жыл бұрын
What does it matter.. he didn’t have the foresight to realise this would play against Labour to hardline Boris fans.
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
Starmer knew exactly what he was doing. Partygate is in the news again and when the date of contact comes out the tories will look like mugs.
@chrisgriffin698
@chrisgriffin698 Жыл бұрын
but will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔 not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
@chromeheart6597
@chromeheart6597 Жыл бұрын
Nick Ferrari have you publically apologized to all the anti vaxxers you were hellbent on giving fines every month ?
@glynsmith4590
@glynsmith4590 Жыл бұрын
Just following the process a la Rishi !!! Not right to pre- evidence the correct Parliamentary process.
@suzannebowdenn5469
@suzannebowdenn5469 Жыл бұрын
Why. Won’t he say. When he asked Sue Grey to join hm as Chief of Star, if there is nothing improper why won’t he say. I thought he had integrity, but he makes himself look shady.
@suzannebowdenn5469
@suzannebowdenn5469 Жыл бұрын
@Zory2871 Just a miss spelling and you couldn’t be further from the truth I was disappointed that he acted like the Tories
@davemarriott
@davemarriott Жыл бұрын
Tell me again Nick, how much the unvaccinated should be fined?
@MaxMisterC
@MaxMisterC Жыл бұрын
Why exactly has Starmer put Jeremy Corbyn... (a politician who drives the support, coming from the Labour base) ...outside of the Labour party?
@Helmetron
@Helmetron Жыл бұрын
The answer to the question should be irrelevant, as Sue Gray was approached by Johnson to conduct the inquiry into whether or not he, himself, had attended any parties with some of his subordinates during lockdown. Johnson however, could have been double bluffed into making the wrong choice in Sue Gray. Maybe that's next...
@ThomasKing19933
@ThomasKing19933 Жыл бұрын
Why can't you just tell us, keir?
@sarcasticstartrek7719
@sarcasticstartrek7719 Жыл бұрын
He hinted - Sue will be the one to reveal it as part of her leaving her current post. It's not a state secret or anything - and it could be something along the lines of her being at some risk if there are rules for HER that she isn't meant to look for other posts or... something. He doesn't want to put her in a bad position. We'll find out, in time.
@ThomasKing19933
@ThomasKing19933 Жыл бұрын
​@@sarcasticstartrek7719he should just say. He couldn't answer a simple question and it shows bad character.
@kat2023.
@kat2023. Жыл бұрын
Because there's an urgent question being put forward in Parliament, he told us that.
@uqs57bju
@uqs57bju Жыл бұрын
@@sarcasticstartrek7719 As much as i agree with you. He does come across as extremely dodgy for no particular reason. What you are saying is his answer and then he should just not elaborate anymore. Make it clear.
@ThomasKing19933
@ThomasKing19933 Жыл бұрын
​@@uqs57bjuabsolutely
@AM2K2
@AM2K2 Жыл бұрын
Follow up question, is Sue Gray a woman?
@mercomania
@mercomania Жыл бұрын
Brylcreme boy is nothing more than a cardboard Tory.
@AlienPsyTing1
@AlienPsyTing1 Жыл бұрын
Labour were for much harder lockdowns - let that sink in
@liamponsonby1862
@liamponsonby1862 Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit shocked he didn't anticipate the question and there fore know when he asked her.
@efremvercaigne7265
@efremvercaigne7265 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that keeping this debate alive is the whole point.. The Tories are shouting about the parties, reminding the public of it again.
@davidsmith5523
@davidsmith5523 Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked that the possibility that the answer nothing innsproptiate has occurred is not satisfactory.
@neilmahoney7458
@neilmahoney7458 Жыл бұрын
He said after the position became vacant in October 2022
@FITZYIS
@FITZYIS Жыл бұрын
says the man who let savile go about his business what a tool his father made
@davidseals4898
@davidseals4898 Жыл бұрын
Ask him if he lost his driving licence 🤔🤔🤔🤔🕵️🕵️🕵️🕵️🕵️🕵️
@Christopher_J
@Christopher_J Жыл бұрын
I think this translates to: 'I had conversations with Sue and had my eye on her becoming my chief of staff years ago. During the investigation into partygate I had no interaction with Sue but waited until after her report was published to approach her about thr position'.
@trivit472
@trivit472 Жыл бұрын
Beer and Korma anyone did we forget that too like the fact that Mouthy Rayner was in Durham aswell or is that a spell of the Krankie amnesia
@royboy565
@royboy565 Жыл бұрын
You mean the one the police found no case to answer. That one?
@trivit472
@trivit472 Жыл бұрын
@@royboy565 Durham police and Liabilty Liebour police and crime commissioner I don’t think I need to say anymore.
@vladimirimp
@vladimirimp Жыл бұрын
I suspect...Starmer is a man who prepares and practices what he'll say before he goes into an interview and then utterly refuses to budge from the process because the risk with doing so is greater than the risk of looking a fool when sticking to the plan. In this case, it looks like the exact opposite of what he says - like if I came home from an evening with a female friend and when my wife asks how it went I say "Nothing improper happened".
@archiemitchell8426
@archiemitchell8426 Жыл бұрын
Keep them guessing!!! Then when the time is right make them EAT CROW!!!!!
@chris23tg
@chris23tg Жыл бұрын
Looks like Sue has broken 4 sets of Acoba rules they are saying 👀
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